Is he the biggest retard in the whole series?

is he the biggest retard in the whole series?

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That's a bit rude, you can't say that just because he's related to Arya.

Not really, he does a few stupid things but considering his situation they are not unrealistic> Be in early 20's> Your Dad, who runs the house you still live in and basically does all the important shit while you fuck around with Theon, gets imprisoned by a mentally unstable unlikable dick head King> Thrust into a position you were not expected to be in and are now in charge of like 20 major houses and thousands of troops, and your in-laws place is being burned by the king's grandfather, basically an act of open war> Basically forced to fight now or you look like a massive pussy in front of your subordinates> Actually do pretty well for yourself, end up getting engaged> Send your best mate off for backup, he has shown himself to be a reliable chap up to this point so there should be no worries> Oops, guess he's really an insecure arsehole> Get raped by a noble girl while being treated for injuries and now have to marry her in a shotgun wedding> Karstark rebels because he is a tumultuous arsehole and you have to execute him after he kills political prisoners so as not to look like a pussy> Frey and Bolton, also arseholes, conspire against you to bleed your armies and then kill you by violating guest rightRobb was just dealt a shit hand and surrounded by arseholes, but looking at it he did the best that he could.

Marrying firm tits was stupidKilling Karstark was stupidConcentrating his free family members in a single quasi-hostile place was (in hindsight) stupid

>>138785359Actually, Im being a bookfag and forgot he married Charlie Chaplin's granddaughter in the show, in which case he made one mistake in which he got horny (should have just married the frey girl at the end of season 1 and kept chaste), but considering he is up against actual retards like Ramsay one mistake ins't enough to call Robb a retard.

>kills Karstark because "MUH HONOR">disregards honor and breaks oath to marry frey girl so he can marry the sassy nurse insteadThey really fucked Robb up bravo D&D

>>138784420Sansa is a bigger retard still.

>>138785532>e he made one mistake in which he got horny (should have just married the frey girl at the end of season 1 and kept chaste), but considering he is up against actual retards like Ramsay one mistake ins't enough to call Robb a retard.Hit and quit the foreign hottie. Married the Frey girl that would make a good mother and doesn't get along with other Freys so she'll be loyal. Bang the Frey twins on the side.

>>138785521> Marrying firm tits was stupidI agree, see >>138785532> Killing Karstark was stupidAt that point he really cant avoid it. Karstark has verbally called his king out on multiple occasions and had now openly defied him. If Robb didn't kill him then it sends the message that others in his service can do the same, and at that point in the war Robb has Tywin, Kevan and his new Westerland army, and retaking the North to worry about so adding rebellious allies to the mix ins't an option.> Concentrating his free family members in a single quasi-hostile place was (in hindsight) stupidYes, but also remember at the start of the Wot5K, He and Cat are in the field, Bran and Rickon are at home in Winterfell, and he is going to try to get Ned, Sansa, and Arya exchanged for Jaime and can then send them off elsewhere. If Ned had not been executed (and thus make the switch unfavorable) and Theon not blindsided him Robb and the Stark's would be in a good position to survive.

Trusting Theon was the worst mistake he made

>>138784420It's not his fault that the entire world conspired to fuck him in the ass and plot armored all of his enemies just because Gurm wanted to subvert expectations

>>138784420Rickon allowing himself to get sniped by a pre-bronze age weapon from 500 yards away was orders of magnitude more retarded than anything Robb did

>>138784420I desperately want to have sex with Richard Madden. And Brandon Flynn. And Froy Gutierrez.

>>138785359Robb is 14

>>138784420In the books he was his father's son, honorable to a fault which ultimately led to his demise.In the series, retard is an apt description.

>>138784420>gets fingers bitten off by the boss' huge wolf>now have life long disability>"YOUR MEAT - IS BLOODY TOUGH!" LOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!is laughing an appropriate response to getting your fingers ripped off by a dog?

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>>138785972>is laughing an appropriate response to getting your fingers ripped off by a dog?when the alternative is literally getting beheaded, yes

>>138784420The viewer is the retard

In war, you kill your enemies.

>>138784420no, ned was

>>138785972He was seething

>>138785972Whatever happened to the Greatjon?

>>138787113he got cast in the hobbit and chose not to return to got

>>138787137Wasn't that the first mountain?

>>138785359>early 20s

>>138785637>Yes, I'll go marry the bastard son of the man who betrayed and killed my brother, marry into the same family that has a skinned man for a flag, and through my marriage, fully legitimize their claim on my homeland, all while cutting myself off from all potential allies and aid. All in the name of vengeance.Someone explain the thought process of her grand scheme here, because it's been half a decade, and I still don't have the brain power to understand what she hoped to accomplish with that marriage.

>>138787137In the book he was captured at the Red Wedding and then held captive at the Dreadfort.

Post your top five houses and rate other anons taste. Mine are: Dondarrion, Greyjoy, Hightower, Baratheon, and Dayne

>>138784420>marry some random bitch>now cant cross the trident>executes his major ally leader fully knowing he we will lost the war due to itYep

>>138787317actually yea that was the first mountain, greatjon apparently just had scheduling conflicts for idk what

>>138787588I think there simply wasn't any room for him after having to introduce Karstark and Roose for S2, and Radmure and Niggerfish for S3.

>>138787524>Greyjoy>Hightower>Royce>Lannister>Bolton

>>138787684Greyjoys are cool and have the whole Cthulu connection going on with them very fun but retarded and lovable bunch of people . Hightowers are awesome because of their secretiveness and their obsession with the occult

>>138785359He’s 100% realistic considering GRRM simply ripping off Edward IV biography. Except for the red wedding. He just died.

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Nah Jon Snow is. Dude gives up that sweet Valyrian aunt pussy and being King instead he's forced to join the NW again. He's stupider than Ned Stark which I didn't think possible.

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>>138784420Are the books worth reading? I heard someone had a full Valyrian armor suit and there's a pirate chick and all types of cool shit

>>138784420Talking about GoT after the last season feels unnatural.

>>138787802Books are definitely worth a read. The only chapters I didn't like in AGOT the first book were Jon and Sansa's but they eventually get better as the series goes along. TV show leaves out loads of great things and characters that were cut like Joncon

>Euron shows up with a suit of Valyrian armour >Martin confirmed several times that Valyrian steel can be broken down and reshapedAw yeah we're getting some new swords soon

>>138787783he could have stuck with the hot, horny Ginger Minge and not waited to conceive the inevitable three eyed incest baby.

>>138787524>>138787684>Liking the larping pirates who always rebel and always get utterly defeated.Targaryen, Velaryon, Baratheon, Blackfyre & Stark

>>138787802yeah definitely, not even a bookfag in general but i didn't have a problem sticking with them

In terms of battle-strategy, he was pwning generals and lords with decades of experience with new and innovative tactics. In terms of diplomacy and sticking to "honour" when failure is death, he was a fucking retard.Not the worst character or the biggest retard, that would go to Dorian Martell.

I reckon Martin is nearly finished Winds or at the 80% mark

>>138785972He was openly defying his king, he had to simmer the fuck down or get beheaded

>>138788274All the Martells were pretty retarded especially Quentyn.

>>138788172But the hot horny ginger minge is kill

>>138787802Full Valyarian armour is owned by Euron Grayjoy, in the show he's a faggot northern england fat fuck dipshit.In the books he's a magic-wielding atheist that taunts and mutilates preists for giggles and asborb their bloodpower to become a world-destroying kracken, and it seems to be working.

>>138788316I think Martin was making fun of incels with Quentyn.

>>138788274>waiting so long to get revenge that everyone involved on what pissed you off dies of completely unrelated causes by the time you finally make your moveFuck Doran's smug ass. Oberyn was the only Dornishman worth shit.

>>138788215>Victarion and his demon hand>Euron in his full set of valyrian steel armor >a horn to summon KrakensThe days of Greyjoys as larping pirates are over, the full domination of not just Westeros, but all the world is on the way.

>>138788478I thought he already did that with LF, Jorah and Sam

>>138788523Sam feels like Martin's self insert

>>138788489> be the only house left through sheer inaction> i have won the Game of Thrones™bravo dorian

>>138784420I don't think that's fair. Jon does many dumber things and they just happen to work out for him.

>>138788606Like what? dude literally trew the war he was winning in the ditch twice!

>>138788509MAybe drowning is the cure for Greyscale and Victarion performs a mass drowning service with his new demonic hand that causes a lot of support for House Greyjoy to happen

>>138784420>Joffrey exists>Season 5-8 Daenerys exists>Theon for virtually the entirety of his character arc exists>Season 5 Stannis exists>Catelyn Stark exists>Tommen after he embraced fundamentalist religion existsHe's a got a lot of competition.

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>>138788592>doesn't fight in any wars>still loses his brother and his first son

aaaggghhh...

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>>138788606Agreed> Willingly attacks Winterfell with no expectation of success> Arryn forces show up out of nowhere> Sansha: lol i asked them sorry for not telling you Jon, the battle-commander

>>138788750What's Sansa going to do in the books? I think she'll involve the Eyrie in the war and help out Winterfell but it'll divide people there who's always say it as a neutral place.

>>138788745based agghhh poster

>>138788710Joffery had a few moments of great observation and intellect, he points out that relying on vassel lords who are prone to rebellion is fucking retarded and the crown's forces need to be consolidated.Shame he was emotionally a petty vindictive cunt and focused his intellegence on cruelty.

>>138787783>Dude gives up that sweet Valyrian aunt pussy and being King instead he's forced to join the NW again.I'm pretty sure they kicked him out of the Night's Watch considering they literally shut the door behind him so he can live out his life with the Wildlings.And of course Greyworm and the rest of the Dany Wrecking Crew are none the wiser.My question is why the fuck wasn't the watch disbanded following the Night King's death. They serve literally no useful purpose.

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>>138784420Robb is the perfect example of how shitty the show became immediately after D&D ran out of source material. Robb got killed for making a few mistakes that weren't obviously bad decisions. But later on, John, Dany, Sansa, and everyone went full potato in order for the story to move forward. It became hamfisted and boring.

>>138788799I guess some sexy drama involving Harry the arse which ultimately leads to the Vale helping retake Winterfell and then she has a way more antagonistic relationship with Jon after he gets all the credit since she was the only Stark sibling that wasn't close to Jon.

>>138788592More like:>Wait till the last possible second to enter the war (even though literally everyone involved in the crime you have been seething about for decades is dead)>Still get destroyed when Chadenerys burns everyone that stands between her and her throne to a crisp, starting with fAegon and thus you.Bravo Grass

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>>138787768>DOOOODE HE'S RIPPING ON REAL EVENTS BUT CHANGING THEM COMPLETELYHE'S A HACK! HE'S STEALING FROM HISTORY!

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>>138788745did he live in the castle aaaggghhh?

Remind me was Pycelle at the throne room when Aegon's body was apparently delivered by Tywin to Robert? I'm curious if Varys is going to murder the rest of the people who were there so they can't confirm if it is 100% Aegon or not

>>138789036is that forehead size achievable natty?

>>138788929The problem with Robb's death was that the Red Wedding was narratively the height of the Stark warmachine cut devestatingly to its abrupt end in wonderfully dramatic fashion. And D&D have been desperately chasing that high ever since and makes retarded plot points to get there.

>>138789015> no more yandere-dany postingrelevent GOTshitposting will live on in my heart

>>138787524Pretty much LannisterI like Stannis but not a huge fan of his house

>>138785359Betrayed the most important house...married with a peasant girl, "Why they betrayed me? How is that possible?"

>>138788929To be fair, the Stark POV babies have always been plot armored to the tits

>>138784420he was so qt and now looks like an old hag ;-;

>>138789107Worry not, friend. If the fatman lives long enough to release The Winds of Winter, we shall see shitposting to rival the old days yet again.

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>>138789058Pycelle was murdered too by Varys

>>138789503godspeed grrm you fat fuck, i need new bobbyposting

>>138789107

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The Iron Throne belongs to House Targaryen

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>>138789748*belonged

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>>138789421only arya, really

>>138789823based

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>>138789905which one was a better fuck?

>>138790033Meraxes

>>138790033>the king spent ten nights with Rhaenys for every night with Visenya.

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>>138790188How many did he spent with Balerion?

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>>138789339>peasantThat was noble Volantene ass he was attacking

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>>138790265best got girl

>>138790265She could have at least sent an army of tiger slaves to his cause

>>138784420>Sacrificing your family's thousand year old house for some pussyI would've done the same, I can't fault this man.

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>>138790303Based Chaplin genes

Could strong Bobby B take him out in 1v1 fight?

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>>138790554>defeated Azor Ahai reborn in single combatFooking legend indeed

>>138790554No. Prime Bobby B could not be beaten in a singular fight. Simply said: the greatest foot fighter that Westeros ever witnessed.

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Would have been more excusable if he was the same age as in books and not 25

>>138790705He was meant to be 17-18 in the show

>>138789890Not that much honestlyIn the show obviously, but not in the first 3 booksHer plot armor starts when Sandor knocks her out and she doesn't get brain damage

>>138790683>Prime Bobby B could not be beaten in a singular fight.Based. Fuck Daynefags, Jaimefags and Cleganefags

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>>138790554>Could a trained giant with a war-hammer too heavy to be carried by a normal man defeat a clubfooted peasant with two kitchen knivesA question for the ages.

>>138790683The fookin legend would gut him before he could even notice

>>138790623He never defeated Arya.

THE SIMP OF THE NORTH!THE SIMP OF THE NORTH! THE SIMP OF THE NORTH!

>>138790878George really knows nothing about weapons, weights or war does he?

>>138790878>clubfooted peasant with two kitchen knivesHE WAS A FUCKING LEGEND. He would take any knight. ANY KNIGHT ANY TIME

>>138791003And you know nothing about fiction do you?

>>138791043Calm down, George. Your books are still enjoyable even though you don't how much 700 feet are

>>138791043Lol, you do know that George claims much realism even for dragons right? And admits he fucked up because he was unaware of certain basic things like how tall 700 feet is and that dwarves can't do somersaults? Much there's no creatures in nature that have four legs and wings so my dragons don't

>>138791170*MuhFucking autocorrect

>>138791003The size of the hammer was Ned exaggerating through rose tinted glasses because he was kinda gay for young Bobby

>>138791170If there are dragons, I have no qualms believing there are half giants maniacs who can wield hammers with speed and dexterity It doesn't endanger narrative coherence, which is what gurm is after more than pure realism I think

>>138791362He would be exaggerating to the point of absurdity. Even quadrupling the weight of a regular warhammer would still not make it anywhere near impossible for a regular person to lift

>>138791517Maybe Ned was a dyel until he had sex

>>138791373See >>138791517.

>>138791517>Even quadrupling the weight of a regular warhammer would still not make it anywhere near impossible for a regular person to liftGODS

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>>138791517>HEHEHEHE I once glued my hammer to the floor and told Ned to lift it and it wouldn't budge! The poor bastard ended up thinking that I had the strength of a hundred men

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>George approved Robert warhammer book replica weighs 10 pounds>44 inches longLMAO

>>138789905How did Targ queens go from openly ruling as equals to their husband to a bunch of irrelevant babymakers after 300 years of progress?

>>138792467The Gods made menDragons made them equal

>>138792467>Dragons go extinct>Targaryen women can't burn you to ashes if you don't listen to them anymore

>>138792819The Targ kings still commanded respect after the dragons died but the queens were either irrelevant broodmares or whores

>>138790683Hands too tiny to pick up Bobby B's warhammer.

>>138791018*fookin

>>138790222Rhaenys was the only one out of the three that fucked her dragon but she also fucked everyone in Westeros.

Is there a GRRM-approved visual depiction of Bobby's hammer?

>>138789823GODS I WAS STROOONG BACK THEN

>>138792467Progress doesn't always go forward. Anyway they banned incest and integrated into Faith of the Seven so the place of women got less important

>>138793174that's due to the culture of the continent

>>138789339He was gonna lose no matter what. Bolton and Frey were bleeding his army the whole time.

Anyone know where the books end in the show? I wanna rewatch this but, I'd like to stop exactly where the books end, for my own autism.

>>138793174They only remained in power due to political inertia and marriage alliances

>>138795603S5 adapted parts of the last two books but skipped and changed a lot of shit

>>138795603If you were truly autistic, you would have realized that there isn't a specific ending point.

>>138795603Season 2 if you are a book autistSeason 4 if you are a show autistSeason 6 if you are a (male) normiefagSeason 7 if you are a girl

>>138787524Great: Lannister, Martell, Tully, Targaryen and BlackfyreMinor: Hightower, Reyne (or Marbrand), Manderly, Dayne and Blackwood

>>138795800>>138795690>>138795684Based, thx bros. I haven't watched this since it was airing, but I remember the quality in either 4 or 5 just nose diving. Guessing it's 5 now from that anons post.

>>138795829>Blackfyre >great

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>>138795829>Le fish house>Great

>>138795924Fuck>>138795960Off

>>138789071well said

>>138795984*causes another continent wide war*

>>138785359Robb was more like 16/17 in the books, and you forgot that Tywin was working with the ho's family to not only have them shack up but to stop her from getting pregnant by giving her abortion juice all the time.

>>138795097PROBABLY SHATTERED EVERY RIB IN HIS BODY

>>138787524>Dayne>Blackfyre>Hightower>Stark>Reed

>>138785359Forgot>mother releases Jamie Lannister, losing you an extremely valuable prisoner and getting you killed

>>138787113He got his ear bit off by two drunken Scotts who then we're cleared of all charges. True story.

>>138788428>believing poor quentynhe's going to summon a kraken, not become one, you faggot

>>138794659Yesvalyriansteel.com/shop/swords/king-roberts-warhammer/prod_14.html

>>138790683Aemon the Dragonknight would've destroyed him 7/10 times.

>>138795199>>138795420>no holy wars>no schisms>shit hierarchy>no local holidays, legends, beliefs, languages, dialect, accents>religious dogma still unclearWhat culture? What's the appreciable difference between a Reachman, a Westerlander, a Crownlander and Riverlander besides the matter of their surrounding geography and sho their lord is?

>>138795924>killed more Targaryens than he did blackfyres>killed zero blackfyresSup kinslayer

>>138797545The guy that got killed by two dudes? He is overrated because he is the patron saint of honorable cucks

>>138789823Based Baratheon poster

>>138784420..yeah pure ned genes lol

>>138797910Don't diss my nigga Ned. It's not his fault that his bff and his sister were whores.

>>138785741Lord Karstark was the first to call Robb Kingofdanorf. He was sassy. Killing the Lannister kids should have landed him in a dungeon until after the war when something could be done about him. Robb needed Karstark bannermen to win

>>138799001>Lord Karstark was the first to call Robb KingofdanorfThat was big jon