Series that can be good but the company is complete shit

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Castlevania

Tomb Raider was just the Uncharted or Assassin's Creed of its day aka entry level trash that only casuals liked or were interested in, and got yearly releases that quickly killed all potential.

Sonic is the Nas of game characters.

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I think you meant the fanbase.

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God fucking damn it

Sonic is network-attached storage?

Sonic is the Nationalist American Socialist of game characters? I remember seeing fanart of Tails in Nazi outfits, but I can't recall any with SONIKKU

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Fire Emblem cannot be good, it was born to be shitty mobage

muh pachinkos
muh stocks
muh trading cards

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But hey, at least we have RS Remastered to look forward to…

I always wanted to like Runescape, but back then I was a poorfag that couldn't afford more than the free stuff, and even then I had a fairly good time. I wish I could ever experience all the content now that I can, but that seems impossible now too.

Sonic is a mediocre platformer that just happened to be the mascot of Sega in the 90s and because of it the corporate fanboys still keep clinging on it for whatever bizarre reason.

I mean seriously, what's the thought process of Sonic fans? I could understand if they wished for a new fast-paced platformer or something but no, they just want new blue hedgehog games. The character is more important than the gameplay apparently.

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Dynasty Warriors is exactly what it wants to be.

No that's not the point. I can give you some examples. As a kid I liked Crash Bandicoot and I still think Crash Bandicoot games are descent games. I liked the first three, CTR and even Crash Bash. However, I'm glad naughty dog did the right thing and just stopped milking it and instead started a new fresh series when they moved to PS2. Of course some merchant tried to keep the series alive with some god-awful sequels but no one in their right mind should even care about that shit. There's other video game series I feel exactly the same like Spyro and such. If I was a Sonic fanboy, I'd probably think the 16-bit era games are great but that Sega should've known when to stop instead of making all sort of cartoons and whatnot trying to milk the fanboys in the most imaginable ways possible.

I just fucking loath these kind of fanboys who keep clinging on old stuff even when the original authors have abandoned it, like with Star Wars. The first 3 were great but everything after have been absolute trash yet they keep milking it anyway because there's a guaranteed market of fanboys who will buy anything with a star wars logo. I'd much prefer if they had made a completely new series with a fresh take on the space adventure genre instead of making more of the same. Still, at least with Star Wars you have the interesting universe. With Sonic you don't even have that.

What's so appealing in Sonic that makes you want more of the same? I just don't get it.

Sonic is anything but more of the same.

The thing about sonic is that it's more then just a game franchise. almost from the get go there were multiple cartoons and comics. and even the games them selves go in radically different directions.
With Mario there say 2D Mario and 3D Mario games and some are a mix with how they play but they all have a concistancy to them consistency. There were Mario cartoons, but they didn't last as long.

But with Sonic there Classic style, Adventure style, Sonic Advanced, Boost Sonic, the story book games, The archie Comics, The british Sonic comics, Advnetures of sonic the headhog, Sonic STAM, Sonic underground, Sonic X, Sonic Boom, and more.
Every one of these incarnations of Sonic was Someones First Sonic.

There are fans that abandoned Sonic long ago and there are some who only got into Sonic recently, There are so many subgroups that all want different things. what people want from Sonic is on a person to person level.

Osrs isn't entirely shit just yet, you can still make a fresh account and get a good feel for what the community was like back in the day as well as have a decent time. But with faggot mods slowly eroding the fiber of the game from the inside it's only a matter of time until the game becomes RS3.

How it's still alive and how some people still have a desire for more is just beyond my understanding. I just don't get the appeal of this kind of franchises. The fanboys would rather buy a shitty sonic product than a descent non-sonic product.

It’s still too soon

Thing is that Most Sonic games aren't bad. it's just when ever a bad one does come out everyone and there mother for some reason says "SEE SEE every Sonic game is shit."

There are more good Sonic games then bad.

A couple of years ago, most of us agreed Generations is a good game. Now it's shit, apparently. If anything, this is the Sonic cycle. A game comes out, most people like it, years later people declare it was always shit.

Most sonic games are flawed but it's like as soon as those flaws are noticed then that's the only thing that matters.
Like no one is capable of liking something despite it's flaws.

Have you seen the shit in Dynasty Warriors 9?
It's gonna be Dynasty Warriors 6 all over again.

Midair never ever?

Apparently it’s dead right now. Given it’s $30 to buy into the beta until they make it f2p I’m betting it will stay dead until then. It might be alright if they don’t let monetisation fuck it up.

I even think the mobileshit could be pretty alright. I'm amazed that they managed to kill it with their incompetence.

12 GAME OVERS

The explosion was visible from SPACE

f.starfox-online.net/sf64/sfx/bombFireAndExplode.mp3

Mass Effect, Dead Space. Wait, are we allowing series that died due to incompetence?

I swear if V and VD focused solely on Single Player it would have been pretty fucking great.

There needs to be an actual competitor to this shit. The core concept of the Sims is very solid, but EA has to jew fucking everyone always, Maxis can't figure out how to program a stable game to save their lives, and they think no one gives a shit because the primary target demographic is teenage girls. For every one good idea they come up with they come up with two bad ones. For every glitch they fix in an expansion pack (Jewish as fuck), they break two more things. The thing fucking sucks.

Every video game company right now.

We'll see how it turns out on the Switch. Echoes gives me hope despite the dumpster fires

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>Every good game owned by an AAA company

More like

It was dead on announcement

the only thing keep this game alive is the whales, the fantastic art team that actually manged to boot a person who was purposely trying to sabotage the game, the animation team and the sound team. other than that there are so many fucking bugs and glitches in this game players can actually predict if something is going to break or not. sometimes the dev will give a glitch 5 tiimes just for it to pop back a few months later. Balancing is a fucking joke. etc etc etc. i can go on if you want me to.
t. 3000 hours logged

a cyberpunk ish neo tokyo titanfall? a gun rental systems that was super easy to use and manage? massive customization with guns and armor? game based around wall hacks? game was way too ambitious for its time and now its ded in the water. recently the rights have been released from the chink devils that is PWE and its only put in the hands of whats remaining of the previous studio.

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Sonic is a bad game because the core concept is flawed: a character that moves so fast you can't stop in time when a spike wall rushes in from the right side of the screen and you lose ALL your health rings. If the landscape is moving faster than you can react to it, why go fast at all? Mario games executed this much better because although you do run most of the time it's optional and if you miss a jump and die you won't have to navigate some huge underground part of the map as punishment, all while a time limit hangs over you.

Characters that act like pinballs belong in pinball machines, not a platforming environment. You may say that memorizing the stages is part of the fun but Mario games have a much better sense of the right level size and degree of difficulty.

Even if you disagree with all the above, at least acknowledge having Sonic be Xtreme and talking repels all but the most autistic among us. Nobody gives a fuck about crystal macguffins and it just highlights how tired and niche the gameplay is.

die

I see you've learned not to post this shitty bait in the actual waframe threads anymore. Good.

What is "any modern AAA game", Alex.

Sonic 3 & Knuckles is the pinnacle of Sonic the Hedgehog for me. Sonic Mania is a close second, with Sonic 2 trailing shortly behind. The 3D titles don't come close, but I still hold that Sonic Adventure 2 is at least the best of the 3D titles (mostly because of the Chao Garden, but at least the gameplay was better than SA1).

It pisses me off to no end when I see people who still say, "Sonic was never good," because it obviously shows that these fuckers don't do their research and can't be bothered to pick up what many people would consider a great game for no reason other than to hold a shitty opinion.

Sonic really was a great rival to the Super Mario franchise with all of the comics and cartoons. Even if most of his recent showing are sub-par, seeing all of it reminds me of the good old days and makes me want to go back and play more Sonic 3 & Knuckles & Knuckles & Knuckles because it was genuinely just fucking fun.

Plus, the writing for the Sonic Boom cartoon is actually really funny. Would rather watch the cartoon than play the game for sure.

Valve isn't that bad. Sure their games could have been a lot better if developed by other teams, but their games would be a lot worse too if handed to other AAA devs like THQ, EA, Ubisoft.

SEGA isn't complete shit. They still have Yakuza, Project Diva, Puyo Puyo, and Altus. Sonic Team hasn't made a completely solid Sonic game since Sonic and Knuckles. Sure, there are Sonic games that have done some things right since then, but even Forces did some things right.

Was done by fan hackers that SEGA hired to do ports before and now make an actual game better than what the main team has been doing.

Valve used to be a SUPERB company that didn't just make great games but revolutionized gaming and game creation by modders. Ever since Gabe discovered Zynga's profit margins as they used to be, Valve has been slowly going down the shitter, with Steam now being their main product. Valve is now too big for their pants but as another user said they still aren't as bad as EA, Ubi or Activision.

This is a much better example.

Or Bethesda

Nice meme

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Metroid. Nintendo will ensure that IP dies a long painful death.

I don't know usually i'm some what defensive of adventure but I think That user is being fair.

Even though I enjoy most of them every 3D Sonic game has a critical flaw,
Adventure 1 forces you to play every play type if you want the true ending, Big the cat is not that appealing to allot of people.
Adventure 2 forces you to play hunting and shooting stages I like them but it's the Sonic and Shadow levels are clearly the best part of the game.
Heroes forces you to play the whole game 4 times on over glorified difficulty settings.
Shadow the game force you to play westopolis 10 times to get all 10 endings to get the true ending.
06 is a broken unfinished mess.
Unleashed forces you to play as the Werehog and collect sun and moon medals .
Genrations forces you to do those side missions to get keys to unlock the bosses (though this isn't nearly as bad as the other games)

Even though I far prefer the Adventure era gameplay. I would say that Colors, Lost world, and Forces. actually have the least flaws when it comes to how just getting to the end of the game is set up. though Lost world and Forces have serious level design.

*Level design issues

What I find strange about what you said is that you are right in terms that the games during the Wii era and onwards had less flaws but I feel like the Adventure games had a lot more heart and passion in them than Lost world or Forces ever did.

Same, I was the perfect age to experience 3D Sonic, I'm actually still kind of bumbed about 06 since I first played it before I had proper taste.
I loved 06 when it came out, now I see it's seriously unfinished and it sucks, because It wasn't Sonic teams fault it's unfinished. Sega split the team into 2 had one make Secret rings and gave the 06 team a deadline that made them Rush the game. The adventure era while an acquired taste I'll admit, was still really ambitious with each game and how far they took the world. after 06 all of that got thrown in the Garbage,
I still think Shadow character ark leading him to working for GUN is great. It a real shame where 06 is the only game that explores the fact that Shadow works for the government and has connections.

They aren't complete shit even though they didn't do anything against Denuvo recently tampering their recent Sonic games?

Sega is basically a company whose cashcow sucks dong but anything else is a masterpiece.

Damn, that's dark

Mother fucking Elder Scrolls.

Even at Sonic's worse, Sonic Team at least provides good music and art direction. Not to mention that at its core, jumping and homing on enemies in a speedy gameplay is fun. It's just the level design and controls that hinder it. That or weird gimmicks. However, Colors and Generations were solid. Colors mostly because the gimmick with Wisps was more organic in coexisting with the speedy gameplay.

I fucking hate Game Freak.

my fucking nigger. best competitive multiplayer FPS game of all time, way ahead of its time, fucking shame what the god damn chinks did to it because early on it was so reasonable to earn parts permanently by just playing; bit of a grind but not too excessive

now the console-cucked UI is garbage and the fucking server browser doesn't even work. GIVE ME BACK MY GAME YOU FUCKING SLANTS

Imagine how fucking crazy people would go for the Pokemon equivalent of Breath of the Wild or Mario Odyssey.

Why do I only see people talk about Blacklight on this board after the game is dead in its grave? I would have rather had the games playercount just slowly die out the way it was before rather than the abomination it has been turned into with the parity patch.

man I dunno I started in 2012 and had a blast for 2 years until it fell off because PWE gave up on it, went back pretty recently and tried to play some but the game is pretty much broken, it's weird that they even keep any servers or anything up for it considering you basically can't play

pic related was my gunfu, I called it the plague, LMG-Recon with a pretty balanced build. people laughed until I fucked them up with it

What fucking game are you playing?

It's safe to say that SEGA was was jealous of Head Cannon for doing a far better job than they had since Colors and Generations so they sneaked a way to piss on them by adding DENUVO as a way to "make the game safe from pirating" so they can feel the rage of the fanboys they had over the years.
Dick move if you ask me.

just imagine:
an open-world pokemon game filled with stuff to do
and you only get to play as pokemon

I don't know I think SEGA just being ignorant of peoples dislike of DENUVO or their still in some kind of contract with it is far more believable.

My niglings…
god damn, I loved that game.

tbh I haven't played the new content yet, I've just been skilling like it's 2007. I know the game is kinda shit and some of the devs are fucked, but the community fighting them on every front is an amusing watch. That and I'll always have Holla ForumsScape…[spoiler]hopefully…[spoiler]

I always used to draw Runescape inspired knights like that one in the pic related. Also reminds me how overdesig is such a cancer in RS3.

No TES yet? The sheer potential for the series is sky high, but Bethesda can't even get off the ground.

Sonic is also shit because of the "physics"… when you're not moving fast, you're slow as fuck with lots of inertia, and when you jump moving up an incline you jump backwards. That's shit gameplay.