Esports money is dying, relying on betting rings to stay alive

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post yfw 2017 will be the year everything started to turn around
Only took a decade of misery and suffering too

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So what was it in 2007 that threw us into chaos?

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It was the herald year of everything going to shit

This is the greatest image I've seen in years, explains everything that caused eternal newfag summer 2007. Thank you, user.

Fuck off faggot, you are a newfag.

We all knew more or less but seeing them lined up like that is sobering. Some days I wonder if we really are trapped in a variation of hell.

They should just add lootboxes for eSports
Instant profit

Don't they already do that?

Yes. YES.
FUCK YOU OVERCUCKS

Friendly reminder that whenever the gaymen industry squeals about "RECORDING BREAKING WHATEVER" they're lying to save face, be it to investors or government grantmakers. It's no different than when they make trailers saying "YOU CAN DO ANYTHING" to us.

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Source please. Neet girls getting fucked is my kink.

whats wrong with portal 2? It was fun.

girl lol

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Dude video games is a sport LMAO

So is Poker and Bowling. :^)

And dart throwing

yeah. Portal 2. Fun.

Truly the next great athletes

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go wild

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That woman in that posters image

My libido thanks you.

Reminder that Capcom tried to pull some really sleazy ESPORZ scheme for one of it's worst fighters, and the ass-hole behind it thought it was okay to do this with a straight face.

LoL and Dota have been taking hits with ESPORZ too. Dota's been shit since 7.00 (It just got worse with 7.07), and people are waking up to Riot's bullshit with the mandated meta, fuck-awful reworks and VUs, and sjw pandering in the game.


Who would have known forcing Sjw-pandering, fucking people over with lootboxes, and not fixing your game's problems would kill your scene, guys?!


Want to hear something funny? He's a sexual predator and a rapist who ruined events to pay off the mafia.

You faggots can't seem to grasp that casual dota payers don't give a shit about your precious meta

Casuals also don't care about the ESPORZ portion.

Good

Only tards believe it started in 2007, the decline started way sooner than that.

I agree. It really went bad when the NES brought vidya to the normalfags.

Consoles were a mistake.

Yes, I've lived long enough to see exports die!

Of course cracks were beginning to show years before 07, it's just that 07 had the highest concentrated dose of cancer which hit like a truck and ended up being a huge catalyst for how awful things are now.

It's been a long road.

In short, kikes that kickstarted WW2 are the source of these problems.
But to be fair, Kelly from Married with Children was written a lot smarter during season 1. The kikes really didn't like the message the show was setting and pulled a Simpsons with the show. Can't stop it so poz it from the inside.

Would you rather be stranded on a desert island with Noel Borwn & Sanford Kelly or Marn's Leg?

Don't talk shit about Postal 2.

To be honest, I thought better of even putting Kelly's picture up. It kind of occurred to me that I couldn't really think of an archetypical "90's girl" without cutting too close to the 80's fashion in the early years… and not really having any fashion in the later decade. Was gonna put up a pic of Daria Morgendorffer since it fit the progression better - but she's a cartoon and it would look weird next to pictures of real people.

Plus, she used to make my underoo's tight.

Zack's girlfriend from Saved by the bell. If you really hate yourself then you could post pretty much any girl from Califorina Blues.

Didn't think about it, but probably would have been better if I just posted a picture of a goth chick. They weren't really big until the mid-late 90, were a pretty cancerous subgroup, and are more directly related to modern SJWs.

They were just limp wristed greasers with a shitty attitude.

Yeh I've known about him for a while. Its unfortunate 16ers think he's some funny guy rather then the piece of shit he really is.

Oh no user, we clearly believe it just magically began in 2007 without any warning
You're a retard

Could probably get him to climb trees and get coconuts for me.

Getting from there to here.

Portal 2 came out in 2011. The original Portal came out in 2007.

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I couldn't help myself. The negress's face made me laugh for a good 10 seconds.

Based

Everything except SC1 needs to die.

SC1 has been taken over by Koreans. I want to be able to feel pride from people in my country doing well in that game but Koreans are literal freaks of nature when it comes to that game.

Yes, Portal 2 is an actual good game despite the story being inferior to 1. Cooperative in particular is a blast and there are thousands of great custom maps for it.

And then there's the tryhard memekids who shit on everything to fit in.

The idea of multibillion dollar industries where people sit around watching other people play games is retarded whether the games are physical or digital.

Most "professional" gamers are barely making enough to afford food and an internet connection, so betting would be a good way for them to make a decent living. Just bet against yourself, lose a game here and there and hope that your opponent isn't doing the same, because games where both players are trying to lose are usually not very good. SC Pro related.

wew, got a jewtube link or some other record of that game?

Please stop, I want off. I remember when those fucking faggoty vampire books were getting popular. Guys in my USAF barracks were fucking swapping them and I was one of a handful of guys visciously mocking them for reading that shit. God fucking damnit.

I don't remember who is opponent was, but it was a super boring tvz
Here's another match that was fixed and used as evidence in a korean court. The pro who lost the game got 2 year suspended sentence for matchfixing. Check out the ceremony at the end.

SC2 dumbed the genre down to the point where Americans and Euros could play, it's boring as hell to watch. MOBAs dumbed the game to the point where chinks and BRs could play, they cause cancer on sight. If only Koreans are capable of playing a decent game that is interesting to watch then only Korea will get watched.

Another match that was fixed. Both of them were convicted. Matchfixing was rampant in Korea, but only 10 pros were convicted and many believe that high-profiles players were spared to protect "e-sports", which is a government funded & regulated industry in Korea.

Tell me the name so i can look it up on nhentai please

I understand why this match could be fixed
but I couldn't determine exactle what happened in this

and how do those faggots know that it's fixed other than bad performance?


and they take 75% cut IIRC. oh noes, esports is dying because administrator takes out that much.

Man I forgot how stupid medicballs were,

Ok this is absolutely wrong. First off, this wasn't Fox News, this was on one of Fox Broadcasting local syndicated channels during their evening news in this case Los Angeles's Fox channel. They never referred to 4chan directly and there was 100% chance they had no fucking idea what it was but rolled with anyways hence the horribly inconsistent and dead wrong garbage (not even including exploding van).

What causes the massive influx was two notable videos: Rickroll and Chocolate. This was primarily due to Holla Forums leaving cookie crumb trails in youtube comments for both videos allowing thousands upon thousands to find 4chan. Both those videos hit over a million views in just a god damn month.

nvm, is it the sunken colony not attacking those medics?

Chocolate Rain*

Also Encloypedia Dramatica helped increase traffic since the bitch that owned the site at the time was deeming to leech off traffic from 4chan. ED was also one of the major contributors of turning /i/'s raid on Scientology into a moral movement before it manifested as 'chanology'

isn't that what Life, the SC2 Zerg player who was really good in like early 2010s, did? He would get to the finals and be good enough to win, but bet on the other guy and throw the game for money.

He just didn't build the proper amount of colonies. "Whoops, oh well it happens to the best of us, tee-hee"

They admitted as much in court. Some even wrote tear-jerking apology letters to their fans. It was a massive drama back in 2010/2011

vid related, another fixed match.

Reminder
eSports has never made money and has only ever been an embezzling racket.
And most of the people involved are under NDA to not reveal this

Don't forget drug and human trafficking.

Is it just me or has video games been encompassing everything bad about sports and films within a shorter amount of time?

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In regards to this post, some of this is right and some of this makes no sense.


Toonami was going way downhill before then. I stopped watching Toonami religiously by 2003 and around that time they started to make Toonami a blend of anime and non-anime programs. TOM's design changed dramatically and his last one before the reboot was god fucking awful. It was a mercy killing. Thankfully it came back in 2012 and is still with us.


Oh boy it's one of those type of people who think moe wasn't popular until Lucky Star. As if slice of life wasn't a thing in Japan until then. Yeah it was, always was. Cute was always a major popularity in Japan. Fun facts: 80% of the anime from 70's-90's never made it to NA with dubs. It's just that due to youtube and other streaming sites, it became easier to watch this shit online.


Again, I posted why this was wrong. The person who thought it was Fox News is retarded. It was a syndicated channel not related to Fox News.


EA was always garbage. Anyone remember when the original founder of EA made a very threatening email to Gamepro in the late 90's when he ran 3DO? This company was always predatory and malicious.


The talks began back in 2006 and the acquisition cemented in 2007. Microsoft didn't 'break ties' with Bioware. All Microsoft did was establish exclusive titles for their system for a few years. Microsoft did not own Bioware.

Its almost as though its more fun to watch quirky Youtubers play games than it is a bunch of fucky tryhards who take vidya too seriously.

It was fixed because his overlord saw the SCV going to build a barracks in the middle and didn't react at all. Even noobs on their first game can figure out that if an SCV goes into the middle and doesn't scout the Zerg base then it must be doing something sneaky.

He clearly scouts a rush coming and throws down sunkens too late.

Also at the very end he just suicides into marines on a ramp before the sunken colony. Had he waited 10s there would be a slight chance of survival, but he didn't want that. Had the Terran moved forward to start dealing damage to the sunken he'd at least overextend his marines further and the sunken would soak up damage so the lings could deal more.

More like the underage cancer that sustained let's players a few years ago are beginning to grow up, get jobs and throw their own money at them.

Not even Satan can sell a shitty game, just push shovelware.

lol how delusional do you have to be to call for rules 1 and 2? you can't go back in time

It's not about undoing the damage, it's about stemming the flow of newfags.

Reminder that those images are 4 years before Reddit's rise to popularity and subsequent invasion of 4chan looking for ebin maymays to repost for karma.

There's one rig match on DOTA 2 with Evil genius – the first time USA won the championship – and the other contender. The last hunt for roshan is obviously rigged.

At least Korean SC had the decency to put regulation in place. ASSFAGGOTS is a mess.


I found halfchan from a granny YT video in 2011. Call me a newfag and all but I won't be in here if it weren't for that.


It's just you. Every medium is bad to begin with. Just look at art vid related.

The image I posted was created in 2007.

What isn't government regulated in Korea? You can literally be arrested for playing video games past your bedtime (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shutdown_law) and for a while they tried to make it mandatory to submit your social security number to websites over a certain pageview rate before you could post on them. And of course, there's things laws like the total prohibition on porn.
North Korea must be the best thing to ever fucking happen to the gooks, because it's the only reason nobody notices what an Orwellian nightmare they are themselves.

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I mean, they aren't wrong in this one but come on

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Breathing?

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A broken clock etc.

Production and distribution of porn should be treated like treason, getting caught with porn should incur a slap on the wrist-tier fine.
Smart gooks, just go out of the house, lmao.

It's still there user

Yeah, but he has a point with art and it might be the only video he has with a good point. I would put the faggot tranny who collected gallons of pee for art but I don't have the webm.

Besides, the point I want to say is that every medium of entertainment is bad, especially its critics. Literary works had been lagging behind, only learning moby dick is a classic after shit load of white whale. Lovecraft was publishing during 30s and only discovered much later after he died. Game journos having a disconnect with the market. Art having an exclusive clique. Films are running out of idea and are adapting anime/movies/etc. Anime had that pervy artstyle, unrealistic blushing and "kawai" style.

GEnerally speaking, every kind of art form strives to pander with shitty SJWs that further devolve it.

What's interesting about this is the way it plays into the idea of a 7 year cycle.. You know what started 7 years after 2007? GamerGate. And as little as people think it accomplished, GG caused huge cultural ripples and helped propel us to where we are today. By 2021, we might see some serious shit.

The only game I even watch as an esport anymore is Brood War, and that's only because of Tasteless and Artosis. The barrier to esports across every game new and old has dropped and it's done nothing but make shitty teams full of shitty players that nobody cares about, as opposed to just a few professional teams that are well respected and skilled.


And it's just as if not more cancerous than any other esports scene I've ever seen, because nobody but pro players play the game anymore, so anyone who queues gets matched against either pro players, or gets matched against pro players smurfing because of their queue times.

Paladins is a great example of what I said at the start of this post. I play it occasionally with a friend (who is not a professional, he works an 8-4 shift at a medical company) and he regularly just casually shits inside of pro players. We've played against this pair of pros queuing together that were a Cassie and a Victor, and he just lived inside both of their assholes simultaneously. He's not all that good at a lot of games we even play, it's just the barrier to being a pro doesn't fucking exist anymore.

Paladins would be a great game that I'd play regularly if it had a playerbase that wasn't either bronze players or pro players with no in-between

The only time I can put up with Paladins is if I'm playing with four friends, otherwise it's absolute garbage.

We should all revert back to split screen.


It's not the year 2007 when playing with strangers got famous. Diablo battle.net? Or is it earlier?

Savior was no fucking poor boy who had to start throwing matches to make ends meat.. The dude was making bank even before he started throwing games. Now the dudes on the B teams and the people you wouldn't know those poor fucks have and still are treated like shit.

Keyword being MODERN Moeshit. Yeah, Cute has been in anime for some time…but not to the point that it is today. Heck, the 70's was when mecha ruled the roost, the 80's was the fighting and Shonen series, the 90's with the ultra shlocky violence. Basically those three decades had something that over shadowed cute….but look at it now. Mecha? The Real Robot genre still chugs along with Gundam, Supers are dying and SRW is the only thing keeping Super Robots around (Gurenn Lagann did jack shit to boost Supers), the 80's stuff is either a surprise hit because the market is saturated with Light Novels and Moeshit(see JoJo) or a cash in attempt at nostalgia (see Dragon Ball Super). But what's getting air time? Either it's moeshit or a shitty light novel adaptation (with those that isn't in those two spheres barely scraping by)

I fucking wish.

Well that money hasn't been put to use yet. Don't get me wrong, Blizzard's plan to turn Overwatch into the next football will fail horribly, but the current scene hasn't gotten that big injection of money yet.

Can't wait for this shit to crash and burn and all other bullshit be cleansed from the hobby. SJWs, attention whores, faggotry and all the other garbage.

Then perhaps we can have another Golden Age of gaming, like we had prior to 2007.

You're right about that history. Main difference from now is that only a few shows came out with a ton of episodes each from a few studios. Now we have many smaller shows made by many studios while still having a few safe children's shows to fall back on. Anime is much cheaper and easier to make too. But why focus on bishoujo shows instead of mecha and such? I would assume bishoujo has a much larger fanbase at this point and it's easier to sell merchandise for it.

it's always great to watch 'professional' western players go over there and get bodied


this is just a cringy robert hughes ripoff. just watch the real thing.

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Aren't esports primarily twitch-based? Twitch hasn't had the "adpocalypse" jewtube had. How are they not getting more ad revenue, especially with bits and shit?


1913?

You guys say the darndest things

It really amazes me how incredibly naive most people are if they think it matters whether or not it's a profitable venture to begin with.

These tournaments don't need to be profitable, they are simply a form of marketing. It's cheaper than running television advertisements used to be, and pushes your product constantly. It creates shills that will constantly market your game without you paying them a dime because it's their "career" and you effortlessly reach your target demographic of young males every time you broadcast a tournament. Corporations realize this and that is why they are now putting money into them. Only the plebes and cucks below the corporate level actually believe this is an attempt at creating some kind of real competitive sport.

that's a stupid conclusion to reach, esports are massive
also esports are based, if you hate them you're a shitter
don't be salty because people are better at videogames than you.

At least for Shadowverse, the Japanese Hearthstone, during the time westerners still played the game, the Nip "pros" were actually just fucking terrible. The ratio of English to Nip players in the top 100 of ladder was ridiculously disproportionate, the decks they played in tournaments were bottom of the barrel trash. They always had shitty tier 2 decks that didn't even preform on ladder (where you could have below 50% win rate and still climb) and then they would add awful tech just so they could win in the mirror against player also bringing shitty tech for the mirror. It was very much a race to the bottom.

You would watch the finals of their premier tournament and the players would somehow manage to misplay almost every time there was an option and sometimes when there wasn't.

The only games Nips are good at are the ones where some NEETs lock themselves away for years playing one game and end up putting more hours into it than anyone else on the planet. Its not like the Gooks whole will have a game for half the time as the Americans before they catch up in technical skill and begin innovating.

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If its not profitable then why are they advertising?

Wtf i love late stage capitalism now

good point but investors won't see it that way. If they were able to show expenses on said event as advertising on their books, then that could be reasonable. In the end, they will treat it as a separate entity with its own profit making schemes and will get the ax like any other business units if it isn't turning a profit.

What the article actually said is that while esports gets more and more viewers, revenue stagnates and they're trying to translate the viewers into actual money.
It's not, in any shape or form, "dying".

If it's just called a game competition, it's fine to me. But this cancer is trying to turn games into (((sports))) somehow and those fuckers are even trying to push esports into Olympic games. Esports are cancer, video games are not sports. Competitive gaming is not cancer, 4/10 bait for making me reply.

Good riddance.

How have you been Gookanon?
What are you doing now?

Nonsense. Just some change to mix things up once in a while which causes some people to overreact.


I also think that all that money just fell from the sky somewhere.

Funny how that works.

story/ source?

ED was how I originally found 4chan back in 2008 or something. I was really confused as to the relationship between the two at the time, which was is what happens when you introduce edgy little kids to something like that.

Not him but all major sports events have pimps redirect hookers to cater to the event specifically. And naturally lots of drunk and vunlerable people, some of which attractive, some of which worth abducting.
Now imagine the same. Except with younger people and generally nerdier/less of a problem to deal with physically.
Usually younger kids who are travelling long distance to get to the event and go wild somewhere after it.

Now imagine you are a human trafficker. That would be an easy target. Even more so: all of those people have some sort of profile on at least one platform. Some of them are even updating their location as they go.

The things you just quoted are saying the exact opposite of that.

ESPOARZ are advertising for video games, idiot.

This entire thread is full of illiterate retards.

No shit, are they this stupid to think E-sport would survive on anything but customers money? Fuck, most real sports survives because of government-funding and in the bigger sports it's money-laundering from kikes and shitskins.

Oh 4chon, how I miss thee.

But each generation of e-sports has dumbed down games even more. We went from Starcraft to ASSFAGGOTS, an RTS where you only control a single unit.

Perfect summery, 2007 was the point of no return.


I think you're confusing the internet's decline with the cultural decline that started in the late 50's.
The internet was practically reserved for autists up until social media happened (2007), which brought in a tidal wave of normalfags.
Sure there was still shit like Myspace, but even that was for edgy proto-SJWs and small bands who were also autistic.

They balanced the game so well that you noe can get banned if you don't play more than your favorite character
Also a remindef that:
WE HAD CYCLYCALS AND PEOPLE DEFENDING THIS CANCER FROM MARCH TO JUNE 2016
WE HAD HOTPOCKETS DEFENDING PEOPLE BUYING LOOTCRATES, PLAYING THIS SHIT ON A CONSOLE WHILE DEFENDING SHIT GAMEPAD FPS GAMES, DEFENDING BLIZZARD AND THAT THESE SAME PEOPLE POST ON THE WOW GENERALS AND SAY THAT THEY'RE OK WITH GIVING BLIZZARD MONEY FOR CLASSIC SERVERS THEY THEMSELVES TOOK DOWN WHILE SHITTING ON SAID FAN SERVERS
REMINDER TO NOT EVEN GIVE AN INCH TO BLIZZCUCKS OR ELSE WE WILL BE FLOODED BY REDDIT AND ANTI CONSUMER CUCKCHAN WHORES LIKE THIR OWN WOW CLAN
REMINDER THAT BLIZZARD IS AS BAD AS EA AND THAT THEY'RE ACTIVISION
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Fuck
BLIZZARD IS BANNING PEOPLE FOR PLAYING ONLY ONE CHARACTER
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It's the only way for me to enjoy vidya nowadays. I cannot complain about that.

the bibble wasnt kidding when it said god created everything in 7 days

==WE DICTATE HOW YOU HAVE FUN! YOU BETTER PLAY IT LIKE WE WANT YOU TO, AND YOU BETTER LOVE OUR SJW PANDERING IN OUR GAME, YOU EVIL TRUMP-SUPPORTING JERK!== - Jeff Kaplan

This is taking the ESPORZ SERIES BIZNESS shit too far. I don't understand how an leftist-authoritarian approach works for a $60 game like Social Justice Watch. Riot gets away with it in LoL because it's a free-to-play. This is like buying Street Fighter 4, and Ono tells me if I pick Dan I'll get banned on my console and even tournament events if they know I use Dan. I shouldn't be fucking told how to play a fucking game especially if I spent $60 on it. Not everyone is a SoCal ESPORZ faggot. They just want to get the fuck away from reality, and chill with a retarded fps game. So if I get banned for wanting a main in Social Justice Watch, I gotta buy another console and copy if I'm a console fag (Lowtiergod got banned from SF4 5 times, and bragged about buying 5 Xboxes)?

Dota fags would flip their shit if Valve said, "if you spam one hero, you're banned." Pros like Arteezy (scummy player) would spam one hero on streams while being ass-holes (how else did he hit 10k? Spamming meta heroes), yet Valve lets them get away with whatever. Who would be cool with that rules being half-assed?

Blizzard fans have spent the last decade or more making it perfectly clear they play games for social status, not fun, and they will put up with any punishment from their abusive overlords to obtain it. Notice how their interests begin and end on Blizzard's catalog.

Holy shit, imagine if this happened in any other game for a second.

I never quite understood where did the whole turning esports into a counterpart of normal sports came from. Not only is it a young concept, it's also pretty much self contained, as even the most casual of normalfags can't be bothered to care about high-level competitive videogames, so it makes sense that its infrastructure can't come close to that of normal sports, yet these organizers still aim for the absolutely bombastic events, complete with high-capacity, high-cost venues, high expenses, over-the-top style, and other unnecessary shit, instead of remaining relatively modest like the fighting community does with its tournaments.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not into esports either and I don't defend them, it's just that I find it non-sensical that people continue to push this approach of turning esports into the next big thing when it clearly lacks not just the experience but also the capacity to actually hold the pressure that regular sports events take, just look at all the major mishaps that tend to happen even among high-profile devs, like valve's Shanghai Shitshow with dota.

Fuck lads, I never used this site. How do I even take the panda off?

Investors with daddy money behave a lot of like compulsive gamblers.

I'm gonna be that guy at the risk of being called a faggot and spoonfeedyou: Join the forums, get a special extension for your browser, then wait about a week while logged on so that your account shows a bit of activity, at that point you should be able to get in.

Checkmate christcucks.

Fuck that shit, I ain't getting an account to just watch some porn. Why do they even do this shit?

but what if he's so powerful that he used his power to compell himself to rest? what did god mean by this?

It's true. Everything went to shit around 2007 - 2009

Christ you fucking losers.

iPhone and the game app store gave birth to DLCs

In my defense, I took instructions from some other guy that were put on a post, so I just did as it said.

Elaine

Also jews do something every 7 years. I'll leave it for you lads to figure out.
Those 7 years also happen to line up with all this shit, you'll see a hueg stock market crash in 2007 for instance.

We re in 2017 not 2007

Correct.

Wait. We are in 2017 and not 2007. 10 years passed. Fuck. Feels like a time portal.

So what happened in 2000 then ?

Another thing: The eternal setember was in 1993.
Also lines up with the 7 year cycle.

Muh end of da world. Muh codudders going cuhrazy.

New millennium

dota2 numbers are still steadily declining (for first worlders, anyway) despite the latest patch and the esportz scene at an all time high of competitions/money with the major/minors.
this will be the last year where the international sets a new record in prize pool. (((valve))) doesn't realize most people don't give a shit about muh digital sports and they don't know how to manage a game.
good riddance.

Turning Dota into a nightmare hybrid of HoTS (why? No one likes it) and LoL was the dumbest thing they've done.

Playstation 2 and Halo

I know, I still hate myself for dumping ten gorillion hours into it. it was fun, once.

You and me both.

Honestly what's the difference between any of them? If you put videos of them side by side and told me to tell them apart I wouldn't be able to.

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One required more effort not to suck (Dota). One had an authoritarian meta where developers and players will get you banned for not giving them memes and liking their said meta (LoL). The last one was a soulless rip-off that was only made for MUH ESPORZ money(HoTS).

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Something tells me all three of those could apply to nay given ASSFAGGOTS.

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Even better

Post proof.

Yea pretty much.

The only true real esports at the moment are CS:GO, Dota 2 and LoL. Almost everything else is artificial and only kept alive by money from the developers, see: Overwatch, HotS, Call of Duty and dime a dozen mobileshit (you also could count or count out PUBG since it seems to be a up and comer, but it's a very random game and will probably bomb IMO.) CS:GO scene is quite healthy at the moment, despite decreasing player numbers, the watch numbers on majors was up from last year IIRC. Seeing the best of the best compete is pretty enjoyable since CS:GO is generally a pure skill game and there's little randomness that can tilt a game to one side.

wrong

Because dumping stats after level 16 was the complex way of going about things.

Valve solution to hero spam was attempting to make the 113 character choice viable, and giving 5 bands per a team. You can spam one character to get to high MMR but once your bro you're going to get your asshole ripped open.

Meant for

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GOOD.
These faggots are trying to shove gambling into games more and more and I hope every single one of these niggers have a god damn stroke.

Aside from gookcraft, what e-sports game isn't some literal dogshit moba?

Fighting games, FPS, card games, battle royal, and maybe sports games?

it has
league bans people for playing random shit they dont like, singes support. mid fiora etc etc.
nothing else just "/all Easy"

Fighting games and good FPS games (e.g. Quake) have the problem that there is just too much of a performance gap between even relatively closely-skilled players. The top players can easily go 50-0 vs. most of the other players in tournaments. It's like the korea problem with starcraft except instead of only one country being good it's a dozen or so people. At least when you watch starcraft even relatively weak players tend to have a 25% chance or so of beating a top player.

Pretty much this. They have communities generated from their own hype on top of esport investment. The Valve properties more so are secure because of their financial practice; the playerbase basically pay for the player salaries and majors' expenses through cosmetics. The big investors that ActiBlizz and others are scamming? When they move on, LoL, CS:GO and Dota 2 will still be there.

Extra shoutout to the fighting game scene, but for the wrong reasons. It had always been played at a deficit before, but three years ago that scene had great potential. Then Capcom dropped the ball completely on SF5 and MvCI.

any news articlr about that shit?

I never followed ASSFAGGOTS anymore but what a shitty event. I laughed while watching a clip of it.

There is no way this is true to the extend that you almost have to be retarded to believe it.


"maining" a hero is faggotry that mostly comes from LoL-players.

Medics in Brood War had a much lower priority than in later games. For example, Marines, Firebats, and visible Ghosts were the highest priority in the Terran tree, and for Protoss, it was Zealots, Dragoons, and High Templar. If the sunken colonies had anything else to attack, then they would target that unit priority
level until none existed. Medics were broken in that since Terran in the base game had no way to heal organic units at all, the developers added the medics with a low priority based on the fact that they cannot attack. What they did not realize was that the computer was not able to target Medics healing units that were attacking and destroying turrets. This happened to a lesser extent with Photon Cannons as most Protoss players would use those for detection and not as the main defense. Zerg used colonies to expand the Creep, the pink stuff covering the ground, and since colonies cost only 175 minerals to provide additional creep and defenses, Sunken and Spore Colonies were overbuilt accordingly.

tl;dr, Medics were deemed to be less threatening, so automated actions would avoid targeting them unless nothing else was in range, and if something with a higher priority momentarily entered range, then the colonies would attack that unit.

Dota never improved since then because every tourney after that was very cringe worthy. Shang Hai was some really cringy shit, but it put a dent on Perfect World's reputation.

Imagine my shock. You're right though, dota is on a hard decline and every patch shits the game up even more. I always queue up wanting to try something out but find myself throwing my teammates into the other team as tiny because they drafted something retarded

it is dying if you're going to pay the person who hosts the shitty event by signature commission. All this shanghai major shitshow meandered me to explore jewtube other shit videos.

I explored jewtube after watching the shanghai shithow. I would like to see more shit like that, though.

Could this turn into bad esports in general thread? We have fixed games

we have shitty viewers.

how about shitty participants?

what else?

Good times.

They are literally bitching over 3billion being too small

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Shitloads of fetishes that only 2D can satisfy.

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The game itself faggot. Everything felt fishy when I watched it years ago up to that moment. They're just probably ending the tournament with a highlight just like the million dollar dream coil.

It's either CDEC are stupid for calling Roshan or the game is rigged. Rigged so amerifats who contributed most of the prize pool will feel satisfied and to have a first amerifat team to win the tournament (liquid is shit).


I forgot CDEC's line-up, but they might have other disablers too. I also forgot about their line of sight but IIRC they saw ES coming over and they have the time to react on that.


what are you barfing at? The empty space? Asian longchin? The jew nose? The hipster nigger? or everything?

Perhaps I'm a biased because I was there, but
If by SS you mean Storm Spirit, he was dead.
CDEC's primary support had just warded the lower jungle, likely because EG had heavy sentry layouts
Clock was moving out, likely thought it was just a scouting votrex
At that moment her only spell off of CD was Dragon Slave. She had the force staff, but it looks like she turns away, then turns back to try and salvage the situation.
Wyverns ult yes, although it's not super useful on it's own. Arguably DKs stun, although I think he was focused on tanking rosh.
Their wards saw most everything except the path ES took.
Overall it strikes me more as a team that was behind (which CDEC was) going for a risky play hoping that EG would just play it safe and let rosh go.

Super skill/special skill/ultimate skill. Not Storm Spirit. Regardless if he's there or not, that faggot gyrocoptor is still there for them to call Roshan.

Not sure what you've meant you where there. Physically or virtually? I watched it online with Holla Forums faggots in fullchan and halfchan. Fucking Holla Forums in halfchan had to rip my earphones with "amurika fuck yeah" when they won, though.

Besides, that slam is overhyped. CDEC is already losing that battle and only became a precipice or point of no return with that slam. The million dollar dream coil had a better strategic outcome and it doesn't feel forced. Going back to the slam, it's as if the organizers wanted to end the game with a bang like what happened in TI3 with the dream coil.

We'll agree to disagree with our point of views then. Mine is rigged, yours is not.

Physically, my friend knew a employee who was able to get a pair of tickets for us at a reasonable price. Worth it if only to trade bants with chinks.
I agree with that completely. Even at the time, I had to point out to my friend it wasn't the greatest thing we'd seen.

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What happened in 1986?

we have IDs here newfag
>>>/cuckchan/

Beginning of the stock market/real estate market recession that hit western economies hard (which would come to fruition in 2008). The residual effects from that heavily effected stock prices for every gaming related company except for Microsoft, causing companies to start practicing really shitty business practices and trying to nickel and dime every damn game that comes out (yearly Madden, yearly Assassin's Creed, yearly Call of Duty/shoot'em game, etc.).

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Was always dominated by Koreans.

Mount and Blade, Fighting Games, Super Smash Brothers and Pokemon competition grew pretty organically. They gotta die too?

Interesting fact, it appears Nioh and Dead or Alvie games of Team Ninja saved Koei asses.
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I got a new PC

That was clearly made by a some tumblr style lefty faggot.

Nice that they made a profit from nioh but It was a game that rides off the coat tails of dark souls so of course there would be a huge audience for it. Also waifufags dumping thousands of dollars into an anime slut game is fucking obvious.

When you mix too hard you end up with a fine bland and boring paste.
Neck yourself.

Must be NA Dota.

I want history revisionist to go

Nice story, but where are the facts?

That's pretty much all it.
A lot of people shit on the cosmetics for E-sports teams to make them money thing Valve has going on with CS and Dota, but personally I don't mind it too much as I enjoy watching CS:GO and if this is something that will keep the CS scene alive, it's good in my book.

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This is almost the same thing "Game Journalists" are trying to do with gaming, define to their definition of what a game is and what can be in a game. This ranges from what they consider politically correct, what a developer can put in their game, how easy it is, etc.

To be fair he looks like a Samoan Rugby player

The only way they crashed is if they "diversify" into real estate, making most of their asset "toxic." That just means their business decisions are retarded and in a way, a karma.

or dilute their shares. whatever, I never bothered even knowing something about that bulldozer.

I still don't get the story on the last part.


a setback with gaming, really.

I appreciate that alot of you Holla Forums guys feel empowered to join the rest of us in civil society now that papa bear Trump is telling you its ok, but let me send you a message:

This is a blip, a temporary intifada. I know it feels good to have your worst instincts validated, but dont be fooled. Use this opportunity now that you're out of your parents basement to meet a few people that arent like you. You are afraid. We are not.

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PubG as a genre would work extremely well as an E-sport if they refined it. They won't because it's Day Z shit. But battle royals with random drops and say 10-20 constituent guys would make for a really interesting series.

It also seems like it would be really easy to rig, so it's anyone's guess why they aren't trying to push that.

Give everyone standardised characters and make it a custom map that isn't revealed until the game starts. No way to rig anything then. Everyone looks the same, no way to arrange a place to meet up.

Could even generate it on the fly by default.

Fucken checked mega Hitler

there was case where one team got invited to some shady tournament and got their passports stolen at airport on arrival.

It seems to do fine before cosmetics, if anything it's gotten worse because now people who aren't in the game for the game come in to try and make mad cash.
Pretty sure pro CS:GO would still exist even if the players made less, and Valve wasn't jewing it up with lootboxes.

So since we have ID and you aren't retarded how is my ID of a1019e the same as 0025 ?

There are no articles on e-sports. Only on actual sports. The thing is: there are always hookers and drugs involved in massive events with lots of people.

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MUH RECORDBREAKING ESPORZ MONEY VIA SHITTY TOURNEY PASSES ONLY A FEW AUTISTS COMPLETE!

The beginning of the fall of the Warsaw Pact.

Fucking degenerate

still no proof