Can A Hat in Time compete with Mario Odyssey, or does it fall completely short in comparison?

Can A Hat in Time compete with Mario Odyssey, or does it fall completely short in comparison?

AHIT is fun but it's a low budget indie game through and through. You can't put it in the same category as the juggernaut that is the Mario franchise.

Gameplay doesn't matter, only brand does.
If you swap main characters, crows will still buy the one with mario in it.

both shit games tbh

Nah, most people heard of nintendo and mario even if they don't play vidya. Hat in Time, probably not so much.

A hat in time is good but it needs polish

A Hat in Time is a really good game despite a number of rough edges, the short length, and the lead dev being turbocancer. The thing with Nintendo is for Mario games they spend a lot of time ironing out the rough edges that indies just say, "fuck it good enough" with.

How can't I when they're both hat-centric platformers released within the same short window of time?


I don't like Mario, and I never have. I had a Sega Genesis as a kid. That being said, I still bought Odyssey and I'm enjoying it rather well because it's an extremely well-made, polished game that has a lot to offer that I can't say previous games ever had.


I'm not talking about comparing financial success

This is absolutely the biggest detractor.

Success is dependent on effort.

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Hat girl made me want to have a daughter to take care of, so there's that.

at 1:50:49

Then as a technical and gameplay comparison only? Everyone else already covered it then, whichever one has the better execution and more polish.

Go back to Neogaf and stay there, you autistic waste of life.

I'll take care of her for ya user

Maybe the reason the Mario brand has so much weight is the consistant high quality.

Deflecting the main argument, his source is shit but his message is still on point. Attack the message, not the carrier.
The one who needs going back is you.

It doesn't crash or drops frames, I give you that.
Otherwise I dunno what this "polish" buzzword means.
It's boring and generic platformer that stands out only on recognizable characters i.e. brand.

How did Mario become recognisable? Why does his brand carry so much power? Thirty years of conistantly good, sometimes groundbreaking games maybe? Nah, people are just desperate to play as some fat plumber with a mustache.

Yeah you right, I guess advertising and masses being idiots have nothing to do with it.

Here's your (you)

have a sunfish

I didn't want a (you), I wanted an argument.

Well people don't play Skyrim "because it's Skyrim". Since there was no Skyrim brand before Skyrim, and The Elder Scrolls was borderline niche. A lot of people just genuinely like Skyrim.

And there was no "mario" before super mario bros, with donkey kong being borderline niche.
And I do realize that some people genuinely like bland shit.
But it's popular solely because advertising, not because it's good. It's not good.

Maybe Super Mario Bros was a good game, and you're the one who's wrong.
Advertising can't explain away everything. Look at Destiny. Look at Bubsy.

Confirmed 4AM thread faggot.

Also, Donkey Kong was never borderline niche.

have a beefly

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Sure millions of flies can't be wrong.

It was super profitable as far as I heard.

What about it? It's barely shilled and nobody gives a fuck about it.

The original Bubsy was pushed hard to be the next Mario/Sonic.

that's some impressive projection

Good choice with the costume.

Beeflies are the comfiest shit.

Its never been a time like this, when i wanted to buy switch just to not listen to that faggot praising shitty pop music and popular hollyjew movies.
But hey, despite i wrote that i won't follow my own advice and will have to watch his shit anyway.

have a bee fly pokemon

What's with female voice?
I don't follow mario, did he always sound like a woman?

No.
Yes.
It's not even a question worth asking. It's like wondering if a shack in the woods can compete with the empire state building. There's a charm to the shack, but come the fuck on.

Some of the more feminine sounds are the cap, which is it's own character in this game.

What awful country are you from where females sound like that?

Russia

Why don't you just watch someone else's stream? Who watches streams of Mario games, anyway?

Whatever criticisms there are about the quality aside, Odyssey has an absolutely insane amount of content, something hatty time can't even come close to competing with
BUT while both have some really strong platforming controls even the VERY polished Mario controls come off as a bit clunky compared to Hat Kid's
Odyssey feels like every movement option is given very strict rules about where and how you can use them
yes on occasion you can do some fancy stuff involving hat throw into dive, but thats pretty much where the depth ends
meanwhile hatty time lets you save your double jump until after a wall jump, dives can be canceled and give speed boosts if timed right, missing the ledge by a pixel isn't a death sentence, hell you can even get a power up that ignores the obligatory wasted time of a botched dive into a wall
you never feel like you're denied control at any point, if you think somethings worth trying, odds are it'll work
Odyssey has a pace it set and it makes damn sure you're gonna follow that pace no matter what
A Hat in Time lets you break that pace the second you realize that you can

Nobody has entertaining voice and personality comfy enough to listen to.

I dropped hat in time because I hated the whole aesthetic of the bird area, I can't enjoy the gameplay if I can't stand looking at the game. Meanwhile I'm 550 moons into Odyssey and I've been playing it most of my free time since it came out.

At least they kept Jontron as a voice actor.

The cap is talking

But there was already a female cap at the end of the game. They can't be both girls.

I wish mario, sonic and all other idiotic corporate mascots would just die already so they could move on and create something fresh

You know we can have both?

The hat is so good but it's frustrating not having anything that goes with it perfectly.

Hat has something close to challenge.
People hate that.

Like Marionic?

It couldn't even compete with Cuphead, what makes you think it can even attack Mario Odyssey's sales?
AHiT is a pretty nice niche, but they chose the absolute worst time to come out. IMO they should have just waited for Odyssey to release and then launch somewhere around February. What they did cucked them out of both the nostalgiafag audience and the platformer audience. Plus their game is hella short.

There's a big difference between a tenor and a woman, user.

Stupid question because I'm a lazy shitbag
Is a Hat in Time only on steam/gog or do they have an actual website they sell it on like a somewhat competent developer?
I do know when the Lead Dev was a TF2 server administrator he was competent enough to have all the downloads for their servers hosted on a website.

I want to mind break hat girl

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Being not a retard and understanding you mean in quality, not sales, eh. There's clearly a lot of effort put into AHiT, and the mod support is great, but its short, and there's a lot of little issues that keep it from being fantastic. Odyssey has the problem of being real easy, but it has a lot more movement options, it's much longer, and it managed to have both alternate hats and alternate outfits.

P-police?!??!

Kojima really was a big fan of Bowie, wasn't he?

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Hat in time has collision issues and doesn't have a ton of content. It's art style is lacking as well. I am liking a hat in time but you can instantly tell that Mario is the game with more total development time.

AHIT is faster and has tighter controls imo. Odyssey is as slow as any mario which is fine I guess. Atleast it's not some 2.5 abortion.

Apples and oranges.

Platformers are retard mode shit.

Can [indie game] compete with [game produced by videogame corporation with a budget of dozens of millions], or does it fall completely short in comparison

MechatheSlag (JonasKaerlev) follows feminist frequency and has retweeted FullMcintosh numerous times on twitter. He's also a furry. He's pure fucking cancer, don't be a dipshit.

its a meme
pirate the game if you care about muh politics, retardo

At least neither is as bad as the new Sonic Forces.

Nice meme, lad.

There's literally nothing wrong with communism. Read a book, drumpfer.

Suck my dick, (1).

Really, this is mental illness.

There's the sailor suit I guess.

Your gaslighting wont work on me, commie

yeah, nah.

You really love Holla Forums board owner so much, you post him everywhere? Maybe you're a closed homo yourself?

Won't somebody check these?

go back to sucking off night in the woods

Stop being so triggered, piggy.

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>ywn Seek out Holla Forumss BO and pay him a million dollars to do a bestiality porn with pigs called #Porked

Are you doing it for a friend?
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I was just doing it as a joke haha you know haha I don't really want to see some faggot get rammed by a pigs corkscrew cock its just a prank bro
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Haha, okay, I was just asking for a friend. I wonder how Yoshi's eggs smell?
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You are just as bad as the fascists you claim everyone to be.

How's your board mutiny going, by the way?

You almost got those sick quads of 4 brah.

QUADS OF TRUTH

Quads of truth checked.

Anyone have that pic of the board re-activation priority list of 8ch where it showed Holla Forums lower than even /pone/?

I have more than that tbh. I have the emotional wreck of a hormone-injected BO responding to it. Great stuff

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That has literally nothing to do with the gameplay.

Jesus christ that is still funny as fuck, thanks for posting it.

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the dev doxxed the sjw french cuck maxofs2d so the commie joke I'm willing to put off as a ill advised joke, even if it's fully serious the game's worth a pirate

Good times.

The fuck are you on about?
You can throw the hat after a wall jump.
Neither is it in Mario because you can throw the hat and change your directional momentum.
Again, the fuck are you on about? You can use the moveset it gives to skip massive portions of obstacles if you so choose and are capable.
So does Mario.

I thought emojis were disabled because some faggot figured out how to break threads with them or something?

Was going to come in and say this, too.
The speedruns for this game are insane, and have actually changed my opinion of Odyssey heavily, for that last point you raised.
I only thought the game was railroading me, in the ways I could get things. But watching the game be beaten in under an hour and a half, on a bad run, had me realizing I could use the skills I acquired from beating it, to really blitz through previous challenges.

The craziest part is it's borderline Super Metroid, with how much they let you skip if you're good. What I thought was a fun game, with a lot of unnecessary dependency on captures and gimmicks, lacking in platforming challenges, turned out to have had the entire game built around that.

Video? Best I've seen is around 1:40-ish and was in 480p.

I'm so tired of this shit and Cuckhead getting daily threads. Do you retards play anything else aside from the trendy new Steam games?

Just make threads about the great games you're playing like a well-adjusted Holla Forumstard.

Embed is the run in question. The entire community has since surpassed this, but I think his commentary is good and informative, of just what you can do in this game.

If you want just speed, and shit, this one guy, P4ntz, has been getting faster each day, and has it around 1:18

Any without a faggot ranting in the corner? The one with shitty quality I watched was Nipponese and pure gameplay.

I think some browsers have intrinsic emoji support now. It only a basic Unicode version of the emoji and it different from the "official" emoji.
Note the difference from this ๐Ÿ‘บ and the video.

Try reading a real book

Reminder.

no because nintendrones will keep eating up whatever slop nintendo throws up

Back to the Bloodborne box with you, sonny.

Congratulations user, you just went full horseshoe theory. Instead of judging a game by it's merits you judge it by the political opinions of somebody who worked on it.
Ironically this is exactly the same thing that makes feminists unbearable. Waaah, women get beaten in GTA V. Waaaah, there's communist commentary in a Hat in time. is exactly the same shit. Fuck, go date a femenist, you have exactly the same values anyway so I'm sure it'll bloom into a marriage.
Also, videogames aren't made by a single person. Not even most indie games.

To get back on topic, I think a hat in time is the better game. It seems to be made with the classic platformer design mentality of designing worlds around around how the character moves. Whereas Odyssey seems to be the other way round, a world that is designed first, with a character designed to move around in it. It's why most of the worlds feel so vacant and flat, and why there's 600 power moons dropped around in every level. The game has become about the destination instead of the journey.
Even though, I haven't played either game yet, because hahahahaha, switch on the one hand and fuck paying 30 bucks for a game that seems to last 5 hours on the other hand.

Just to spite your petulant saging I'm gonna add a picture to my post to bump the thread.

oh i'm laffin'

Meant for

Ten good reasons why Obyssey isn't a timeless masterpiece, now.

Go to bed, Sargon.

We did you all respond to bait?

you have to spend $300+ just to play it or wait 10 years for an emulator. that's the only reason i need tbh

that's the part you cherrypick out? Not the

I'm sad now.

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What if I like That weird girl and Mario?

You can like the game and dislike the creator. Just don't buy the game yourself.

Sounds like capitalism

like pottery

Go get your hepatitis treatment Idubbz.

Just posting to say the Mafia King boss in Hat in Time does not represent the rest of the game's bosses.
They move much faster, have more moves & variations on them, and require quicker reflexes.

Funny because I had the most trouble on that boss. The others were easier.

Hat wasn't all that hard but I still enjoyed the hell out of it and want more.

So this is where all your aids come from.

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Dude, lets bring communism to them. This surely worked for the better in russia and china :^)

I'm enjoying AHiT more than Odessy tbh.
I like the music so much more in AHiT as well as the controls. It seems like Mario has a bit of delay when doing jumps as well as being "slippery". I'm not sure if it's due to comparing using an Xbox 360 controller for AHiT vs the switch remotes in Odessy.

Pretty much
AHiT has tons of places where hatgirl would slide and stop moving. Thankfully there is a failsafe to avoid being trapped where the game would place you back to a known standing position, or simply let you jump out of the forced slide after a short time. Also one of the downsides in AHiT is the models that aren't fully rigged as well as clipping issues.
"Polish" isn't a buzzword as it's referring to actual touching up of the game after everything is working and the game is fully playable.

Ebin.

Oink oink motherfucker

alright, shit after watching I'll retract most of my statements
but the depth still revolves entirely around hat throw into dive
where A Hat in Time gives you more options to work with, and doesn't feel as stiff with air controls

Sign me THE FUCK up!

We're equally racist. The left are just ashamed of it.

Nah, the left just thinks faggotry is an ethnicity, so they tout their own form of not!racism louder than the right. It's "shame" under false pretenses.

You can fucking use the search bar, too.

I think a better question would be could A Hat in Time compliment the release of Super Mario Odyssey? By this I mean if you want to try a good not-Mario 3D platformer later.

Doesn't matter if what I'm searching for doesn't exist.

Most of the right isn't racist user. Most conservatives would hate Natsacks.

While I've enjoyed AHIT's charm, general style, and gameplay more, Mario Odyssey simply has so much more content to offer while still being bright, fun, cheery, etc.

I still prefer A Hat In Time. But objectively speaking, they can't compare since Gears for Breakfast didn't have even close to the amount of money Nintendo did to put into a game.

I really hope we see something similiar to AHIT from Gears For Breakfast again though. AHIT was great, and i'm still playing it on and off whenever steam workshop makers put out new stuff.

Doesn't even compare and I've never even played SMO.

AHIT is a very basic game. Though fun even in spite of its total lack of challenge, it's produced on an indie budget in comparison to the monetary resources available at Nintendo. Just look at the transitions between 3D and 2D as you play a side-scroller version of Mario in 2D ON A FUCKING WALL WITHIN A 3D-RENDERED WORLD. The engineering required to pull off that feat would require the highest-paid developers, something that couldn't be remotely achieved by an indie game like AHIT, and that's just a single example.

Pic unrelated. Just a bunch of jew bitches. Move along. Nothing to see here.

its such an amusing coincidence.

Why compete? I like having multiple 3D platformers.

its a nice opportunity to catch my breath and actually enjoy video games again for a while. almost puts a spark in my heart. i wonder what other decent things will happen.

Please appreciate the judeochristian values as well!
Bet you also think fascism is an evil menace because Stalin said so on VII ComInt meetup