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What are some good FOSS games?

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Why do linuxfags think developers would release games not only for free, but also open source as well? So not only does the developer not make any money in sales, but he gives away all his trade secrets as well? How should a developer pay his bills exactly?

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The communism that linuxfags endorse is infinitely more jewish than freemarket capitalism.

shoo shoo leftypol

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Same shit, different asshole. Now get the fuck back to work, Carl.

>If you only buy open-source things I'll throw a FIT because you have to spend money the way I want you to
Who's the communist here really.

Old games should definitely release their source codes. I don't get why all completely free games aren't open source too.

I would recommend xonotic if it wasnt a meme game

Kill yourself cuckchanner

Almost every actively developed emulator is FOSS. Not quite a game, but it lets you play them.

Because the source codes are now lost in most cases.

A lot of is licenses and

Reported for political derail.

What is stopping someone from making an open source game, making some key features proprietary, then releasing it?

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What? Everything I ever had on my PC is free, what are you talking about?

Windows is extremely easy to pirate. You didn't actually purchase it, did you?

why are linuxfags so whiny?

go starve somewhere else, commie

Seriously tell me any good game that is on PC that is released after 2010

0/10 thread

Honey Studio.

Tell me something wrong with FOSS mate

I said game

Yes. It's a game. And pretty good one at that.

I have no problems with FOSS but this thread is shit.

OpenTTD
Battle for Wesnoth
Freeciv
SuperTuxKart

No it's software like Windows Movie Maker
Is Windows Movie Maker a game?

:^) tbh I'm shitposting too

Oh and Xonotic of course.

I know you're shitposting, but if you didn't play it - do.

IIRC isn't basically a thing where you make a character and something to fuck and then you fuck, Don't See how that's a game when it's as interactive as software
It sounds entertaining yes but it is not quite a game

Getting Steam on Linux is worth it just to hear Stallman reeeee off in the distance.

Steam is shit though even if it was FOSS it'd still be shit

why is this so hard

Good question, GPU passthrough seems much more complicated than it needs to be.

Because why would you want to play games made in the era

I dunno man, you sound like some normalfag.
It's the same shit as city manager or, god forgive me, sims for that matter. Fucking point and clicks have less interactivity and actual player input than HS.
It if doesn't have combat and enemies, it doesn't mean it's not a game.

I'm being autistic as fuck because there it this Software I remember called Koonitz or something like that and it could be basically used the same thing
As far as I can tell this porn program seems to just be SFM with menues
Which is not a bad thing but I don't know it just doesn't feel like a game to me

Software is something you use to create a finished product.
You don't create anything in HS or Simcity.

So you can't use HS to make a SFM video?

I dunno what SFM is.
If you're recording your gameplay with something - that something is the software, be it fraps or whatever.
I mean games are software by nature, but recording software isn't a game.
HS is a game and fraps is a creative tool.
Why am I explaining obvious things, was I rused?

SFM = Source Film Maker

Because I have fucking Autism

Sourceports and source releases of formerly proprietary games.

what the fuck are you going on about? Every game now is made with unity or unreal

I've been pirating Windows since win7 Ultimate. Works for me. Win10 Enterprise LTSB is better than any FOSS OS.

We just live in a world were people want to be payed for their work so I don't expect MS or Nvidea to dump the code on github.

Emulators are FOSS because if they were sold for money it would wake the lawyers.

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Retail Emulators are legal so long as they don't use any proprietary code such as the BIOS of the system they emulate. You have to be over 18 to post here, kid.

Linux people don't believe in the idea that you can sell your code. So, lets say that I program my game and release it under the GPL, now someone can take my work (the program) and replace all the assets with their own, and then resell it as theirs. Unlike the normal deal that games have where you have to pay a licence to use other people's work commercially.

Also the documentation is shit, man pages are shit, if you want to see good documentation read the extensive literature on MSDN. Its night and day compared to some of the vauge shit that passes for documentation in GNUspace. A big part of why programming games for windows is better is because Microsoft publishes detailed articles and documentation explaining how to use their shit and integrate it into your program.

"Free Software" is funded by giant companies who depend on that software. IBM will NEVER depend on your shitty game, in any way, so there is absolutely no investment into FOSS games in the same way that FOSS projects like Linux are invested in. You'll notice that any kind of software that is non-trivial, and doesn't have any use for large companies, is not breached by the Free Software movement. Games are just the biggest example of this.

Consider how there is no good FOSS versions of non-trivial programs like MATLAB or Adobe Flash: This is because they don't get injected with money from large companies, because Oracle, IBM, Red Hat don't need those things.

And before someone brings up Blender, that's not a counter-example, because companies actually need and use Blender, and thus have a reason to invest in it. Just look at all the big names in: blender.org/foundation/development-fund/

How much is micro$oft paying you?

but bleem was shut down, young padawan

bleem won the lawsuit but shut down because the legal fees were too much

No, it wasn't. Not legally. They went bankrupt due to Sony jewing them with litigation. The emulator itself was 100% legal to sell because it used no proprietary Sony code. Why do so few people on this board know their history anymore?

Because letting software code be peer-reviewable by anyone is the only ethical thing to do, of course.

You give away your trade secrets the moment you release your thing to the public, idiot.

He could get a real job and make videogames on the side.

Laugh. Laugh at this retard.

how does an operating system get worse over time?

A game can still be sold if it's open source, case in point being Quake and Doom, good goys can still buy the assets if they want to. However it would be pointless if the game is still being updated, as any community efforts to modify the game would have to be constantly merged with developer's work, or the devs would have to work alongside a bunch of amateurs. Once a game reaches the end of development however there is no reason not to go open source.

Were initially proprietary, so don't use them as an example of communism working, Ivan.

I think you have that backwards, communist.

And you could get a real hobby instead of playing glorified children's toys, but here we are.

Are you dense? I said at the end of development, Quake had its source released 3 years after it was released, and Doom had its source released 4 years after its release. This is what I mean you dickbreathed cumsponge.

Additionally, I should have been more specific, since he said "trade secrets" my objection was oriented more towards patents and keeping techniques/methods private. I object to this as any technical field benefits from the free flow of information, funding for research increasingly coming from private companies has had a negative impact on various fields, as the owners of a business won't share anything researchers uncover if it could be profitable. Once again I'd point out that the people who actually discover and make things do not benefit from IP law, the people employing them do, if they decide to fire the guy who made the breakthrough the next day they still get to reap the benefits.
These are a tiny minority, they do not mitigate the general problems at all, and even if everyone did, restricting the free flow of information by letting someone have complete control of their discoveries is a net detriment to society. If your goal is overall wellbeing, why let someone have one breakthrough then rest on their laurels and live off of that discovery for the rest of their life? A good example of this being complete garbage is that amateur chemist who made that heat resistant substance but refused to share the formula as he demanded 1 billion dollars for it. NASA was interested in using it on the space shuttle, and in a demonstration an egg coated in it was still raw after having a blowtorch focused on it for 5 minutes. But because he was fixated on becoming rich its gone for good. This can go sour in lots of other ways, like Oil companies buying up patents, etc.

I'm not as bothered about shit like Mickey Mouse, though I'll point out again that IP in this department only benefits shareholders and other kikes. Look at HoMM, it's owned by fucking Ubisoft, you also have series that are in IP limbo, and god knows how many other examples. Your envisioned chaos of weird fanfiction and chinese products emerging if this was gone is bullshit. Developers and people in general would have control over the IP instead of a bunch of fucking suits.

tl;dr kill yourself

If I hire a man to build a house for me, he does not own the house he built.

Quit being an intellectually dishonest faggot.

If I commission an artist to draw a piece of art, they do not own that artwork. I do. You do not own products of labor done on someone else's payroll, faggot. You know damn well that analogy is spot fucking on.

And as I said I'm not as bothered about brands/characters/whatever, though I think bullshit like the Mickey Mouse act needs to stop, 30 years then public domain. But patents, trade secrets and other laws that allow free flow of information to be curbed for profit are detriment to society.

Its like you niggers dont talk about video games. Also true FOSS smartphone when

it's called a sbc
just get an old phone and install lineageos on it, good enough until you realized >lmao hardware and cellular

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There are plenty of non-FOSS games that run well on Linux, and WINE is a thing.

t. macfag

Because their commies who never had their wee wee touched by a girl

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IIRC some Danbooru-like site had removal policy stating that by default you have to ask the artist you commissioned the piece of art from to make the deletion request. This is most likely due to lack of formal contract between artist and commissioner when it comes to "fan art" -like stuff. If I were to make game and decide to hire artist do assets, I would definitely have to make proper contract with them that states that I pay them, they make asset(s) and I own said assets. Reminder that Yogcast managed to fail everything except the first part, or at least allegedly they paid freelance artist up front and when the artist got proper job and became unable to work on side projects, the artist realized the contract didn't demand that the artist produces said assets or gives back the money. Artist (allegedly) worked 2 weeks for 10 grand IIRC

Free software is for faggots. Open source is king, even winblows uses open source software. Fight me gnutards.

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I'm not sure if I should laugh, cry or both.

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Come the fuck on, user. This is weak bait.

This is the exact reason games should be Foss, so this never happens

not an argumend

libre means that the software is gratis. The only way to retain copyright is to distribute it with copyrighted art.

But it doesn't, user. Libre just means that there's little to no restrictions on what you can do with the software when you obtain it. It doesn't necessarily mean that there's no price to it.

You can only sell it once, before someone can redistribute it for free. Freedom #2-3 makes the software de facto gratis.

Free as in FREEDOM!!!

Cuphead doesn't get a linux port because they're contracted to Micro$haft. It's only on PC and Xboner, at least for a certain amount of time.


Doesn't mean that it's legal to do so. Are you also going to argue against GOG? Oh noes, someone bought the game and can give the installer to everyone now! How will the devs ever make money?

The entire reason the terms "libre" and "gratis" are used instead of "free" is so that retards won't get confused by the difference between "free as in freedom" and "free as in free beer".


It is legal to do so with free (libre) software. The GPL, and all other free software licenses, allow you to legally redistribute the program and its source code. If they don't, they're not actually free software.

Free as in freedom implies free as in free beer in freedoms #2 and 3. Gratis does not imply libre, but libre implies gratis.


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I hope that changes. I want to like Cuphead but Windows 7+ can go fuck itself.

the devs said a fe wmonths ago that the exclusivity is only on consoles, so it's POSSIBLE for it to come to linux and mac. it also runs perfectly on wine sans being unable to disable color bleed


open morrowind is libre, you still "need" to pay for the game for the assets. This is the case for almost all open source implementation of proprietary games(exception being games where the community eventually also made libre assets)

Plenty of games don't get Linux ports. It is not a conspiracy, you're just not worth the time or effort. Persecution complex much?

linux lost its way in the last 20 years of development, it was a market run by sharks and linux teams were and still are bumping into eachother.

its almost as pathetic as hillary. the competition was doing everything they could to sabotage themselves and linux still found a way to become supremely unironically irrelevant.

Linux should just be a clone of Windows with improvements tacked on.

Instead we get a community that thinks using the keyboard to install software in 2017 is acceptable.

it's not weird he thinks that's the reason, most games aren't backed by microsoft. And just like you won't see games made by mircrosoft developers being ported to linux and mac it wouldn't be odd to think Microsoft are door stoppers here. Though, as I already said, the devs claimed microsoft only cared about console exclusivity, so whether or not it gets ported rests solely on their will

You're full of shit because there's gui programs to install software.

Most games don't get Linux support. Or macOS for that matter.

So ReactOS?
There are graphical package managers available, but it's faster and easier to type "sudo apt-get install " into a terminal than to open a graphical package manager, type "

so? it's not about a game not getting a port (an unity one, which are relatively easy to port now, at that) but the suspicion that decision might come from the ones providing funds. It's not like there's no reason to be wary how microsoft treats customers.

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Microsoft has proven time and time again they don't care about the end user, so suspecting a relatively easy to port game doesn't get on other platforms had to do with the fact that microsoft was funding the game would be normal.

though as I've said before, it isn't the case this time, just reiterating that thinking microsoft's hands were behind a lack of port wouldn't be strange at all

Free software as in the source code is available. Not gratis.

Not only is it ethical, it would allow the game to be easily modded, updated supported by the community.

The game can still be sold with the source code available. In fact there's absolutely no evidence that source code being open would make people pirate more because

Trade secrets are things like complex animation techniques and they're hardly vital to profit. Code has nothing to do with such a thing.

By getting money from the sales of the game because as we've established it doesn't hurt sales to go open the source. People still buy doom from steam & gog to this day and is by far one of the longest lasting video games of all times with unprecedented modding and community support.