Unfunny Liberals and the Rise of the Alt-Right

Just a few minutes ago, a leftist made a great point about why the left is loosing in HWNDU.
MAGA people and the alt-right offer humor and fun. While the liberals who show up to the HWNDU thing are weeping rags of pity.

youtu.be/fQElsAnInzs

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soundcloud.com/chapo-trap-house
comfyneetpepe.tumblr.com/post/137693780330/reminder-that-bernie-sanders-is-the-official-neet
my.mixtape.moe/hvbibx.mp4
youtu.be/AdNAhlqnxA0
chechar.wordpress.com/2016/01/01/ethnosuicidal-nationalists/
youtube.com/watch?v=e5-Zp-RSPX8
youtube.com/watch?v=oADKD0fYM1I
youtube.com/watch?v=5rsA8TD6LoA
archive.is/PIJJH
breitbart.com/tech/2017/02/07/berlin-report-92-left-wing-activists-live-parents-one-three-unemployed/
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_mode_of_production
theverge.com/2017/2/10/14575706/shia-labeouf-trump-art-exhibit-live-stream-closed-due-to-violence
twitter.com/AnonBabble

No one cares Shia.

Jesus fucking christ will you stop with this "the left is losing" bullshit I'm tired of eight threads at any given time about how "the left is losing"

Fucking say something then, organize!

for preteens and alienated IT drones who get a real thrill from posting about "niggers and kikes"

I am not sure what urban bubble you're located in, but if you honestly view MAGA people in that way, you're underestimating your enemy.
Know your enemy, defeat your enemy.

i'm in the south, the MAGA dips here are even worse tbh

this has always been the main attraction of fascism, it offers something beyond values, interests, beliefs, beyond politics or ideology even

MAGA bar wearers are even more pathetic of chapos account of inauguration day is to be believed

What state are you in comrade?

The issue is that people on the alt-right are low Autism Level. How on earth could a NEET autistic basement dweller posting on Holla Forums support Trump and the Republicans? It goes against their economic self-interests. They just want to be edgy and contrarian. It's not edgy anymore to oppose capitalistic exploitation or to advocate for comprehensive single payer health care

the alt-right is definitely not low in autism. Correct that to say "stupid" then instead of low I.Q

tn

Unlike alt-rights and liberals we are not autistic enough to partake in this bullshit.

May as well watch scripted reality shows, because the differences are at minimum.

Liberals lost the art, big whoop. They stopped using the chans at around 2008.

And we, the left, are too few and just not autistic enough to show up on that particular place in New York and recreate Albanian Nights.

That Jesus guy who did the Big Guy scene wasn't autistic at all, he was really funny and rad.

Could you ever imagine one of these "leftists" at HWNDU doing baneposting? No, she is 100% right, Holla Forums never goes outside and the people who claim to speak for the left on the streets are bores.

Ga here. Im the only leftist that I know of in my area.

Kys

Why is that? It's just so tedious, the last time somebody wanted to do something at HWNDU everybody was like "nice try FBI".

Why not go there and do some hoxhaposting or Albanian Nights or whatever. Yes HWNDU is liberal shit but it's an outlet and people talk about this shit

None of the MAGA guys at HWNDU were openly Nazi. They don't have to disclose their ideology. The only thing they need to do is making fun of the liberals, they are so cringey and lame that they give them more than enough ammunition to stay attractive without actually having to talk about the content of their ideology because they would get fucking buried.

If you piss of Holla Forums, there may be a chance, that your lookalike may get doxxed.
I would go with the intent of building a bunker in front of the cam.

The woman in the video is 100% correct. I have been thinking for awhile now that we should create an "alt-left" to counter the alt-right. Like posts comfy pepe pro-NEET anti-wagecuck memes. And reclaim pepe from the alt-right. Capital is a parasite of labour and NEETs act as a parasite of capital. For every NEET who refuses to work, the capitalists lose leverage. The problem is that only a small minority of us are checking out of society.

Fucking self-important comedians are half the reason we're here in the first place. Are you fucking kidding me.

It's pretty incredible to see Stewart, Colbert, Myers, Oliver, Noah and the entire cast of SNL (not to mention every two-bit actor and musician who thinks they're god's gift to "leftism" for making another Donald Trump joke) and conclude that "man we just need MORE condescending comedy, surely this will stop the right!"

They are not funny or edgy enough for young people. It's family comedy. The youth rather laughs at Pepe or "lel niggers" because it's surrounded by a language code as well that distinguishes himself from the elderly mainstream.

iktf

There seem to be a few of us southerners on this board

El Chapo Trap House podcast and weird twitter has been doing a good exactly this.

soundcloud.com/chapo-trap-house

We already have this movement. Holla Forums already has its voice becoming mainstream through these forces. Start pushing these new memes or stop whining here.

Black Agenda Report is co-anchored by a left activist who doesn't appear to be cucked by association with the Georgia Green Party. Joe Bob sez, check it out.

X rated "leftist" comedy is just going to devolve into a bunch of unfunny Schumer bullshit or edgy Maher dipshittery. And then when you "win" with comedy you're still, as you described, winning with shit ideas with no substance.

I'm not saying memes and jokes can't be good propaganda but the good ones are the ones that rile people up not leave them smug and complacent. And the last thing the "american left" needs is even more reverence of comedy, since they're currently all the way in complacent, self-congratulatory territory and, if anything, have to dial that shit way the fuck back and stop being easily amused sheep.

LEFTISTS BTFO FOREVER AMIRITE

~t. Holla Forums

Proof that socdems are theoretically bankrupt

Hm, thanks, I'll check it out

When workers weren't happy with their pay, working conditions, benefits, etc. they used to actually go on strike. Workers are too scared to do that anymore. NEETs are on strike. At least those of us who don't want to work the shit jobs on offer. The ones who do want to work are part of the reserve army of labour.

idk why people still act like 4chan is underground. anyone who goes on the internet beyond facebook knows about it.

this is what we need to counteract the alt-right. Don't get all preachy and theoretical. Just hit em with memes.

What happens when the capitalists turn your welfare into workfare? Which they will probably do before a labor shortage ever happens from your NEET uprising. Strikes are very good, but you'll never reach enough NEETs to actually bend the economy to your will

Liberals are not leftists.

I was about to fap to her until i saw her nose ring.

Workers back in the 1930s didn't have any welfare to fall back on and they still went on strike. Some of them were actually killed by police officers. The RCMP killed a bunch of union members after a Wild Cat Strike in Saskatchewan I believe.

What's the difference between THEN and NOW? Why are workers so docile now?

Sadly there are a lot of people out there who get interested in alt-right/MAGA types simply because of their humour.
It's really sad and vapid that people think of politics this way but it's just way it is by the looks of it.

What city, comrade?

comfyneetpepe.tumblr.com/post/137693780330/reminder-that-bernie-sanders-is-the-official-neet

This robot gets it. Very few of us have seen the light.

We need to make the alt-left a thing

blow it out your ass.

They had mutual aid, self-organized community, and the ability to satisfy human needs without the market. Market-states are harder to discipline from below. Trump may or may not tear down neoliberalism and reveal an Asian-American in the armor for the left to drive through.

The left is losing because we keep allying ourselves with social liberals and trying to uphold the holy doctrine of egalitarianism. Because of this, we've alienated tons of people out of the perception of them being "evil racists", and drove them to fascism.

Ultimately, fascism is infinitely more revolutionary than many of the liberals infesting this board.

What the hell kind of left are you fighting for?!

Then, unions were mostly independent and knew they couldn't trust the gov. Now, most unions have been absorbed into management and to do a strike now you have to weave around legal obstacles and the union leadership will collaborate with the management under the watchful eye of the government before anything, if at all, happens. The difference is independent working class organizations. With this NEET plan, however, the power still rests with the government, who will turn your welfare into workfare, the moment your NEETdom Uprising actually does threaten a labor shortage, if not earlier. Above all else, what is needed is education about the material conditions of our society and our current situation under capitalism as well as independent working class movements

You're either using egalitarianism incorrectly or you have no idea what the left is fighting for

We have tried to educate the working class. Working class people tell me that they are happy with what they are getting paid and if they are not they say that they will one day rise up eventually because this is America, you can do anything. *gag*.

When I explain to them what socialism is (worker ownership of the means of production), they either can't get it through their thick skulls. Or if they do get it, they think that the "unproductive workers" would hold back the "productive workers" and that they wouldn't necessarily get paid and have shorter hours under socialism than they currently do under capitalism.

We won't partake in the spectacle and the memefication of politics, which are things that we criticize. If that's the reason we're "losing" (it's not though) then so be it.

Efficiency and an end to decadence and consumerism. "Egalitarianism" is a liberal pipe dream and not dialectical in the slightest

The thing is that no one wants to admit that they are unsatisfied with their pay. Because they don't want to "play the victim" or whatever. For whatever reason, Americans and even Canadians shun "playing the victim".

When a working class person admits that they are not happy with their pay, they say that they will aspire to better themselves in the future. They have an opimistic viewpoint. Or they say that they are too stupid to succeed (LOL). North Americans are incredibly classcucked. The poorest people in our society are mostly apolitical. Or they think that they deserve the life they have.

It's Holla Forums, it's what their entire catalog and all their social media is saying right now, it's leaking in here because our mods are lazy.
see my previous statement and go back >>>Holla Forums.

The chans have been right-wing for a long time, only suffering any pushback now.
There's no bane posting on reddit.


get shot. >>>/3rdposition/ (spell it out)

Hopefully someone will bring them down with cynicism on their own side.
Calling them out as LARPing retards. Which they legitimately are.

And thus another "movement" dies, killed by our present overarching culture. Except this one was more tedious than the others, so it's a good thing.

You're using egalitarianism like an idpol reactionary. Pursuing economic egalitarianism, for one, is perhaps the one thing leftists can agree on

They provide catharsis for a certain kind of person just alienated enough from society to hate it but too high off of ideology to figure out why shit sucks and just lashes out at the rise in social progressiveness. They're totally devoid of genuine fun or humor, however.

Probably enjoys Lenin memes or something along those lines.

Dropping the Nazi meme was the best thing I ever did. LARPing is gay as fuck, no matter the cause

don't respond to duplicitous Holla Forumsyps, they have no interest in learning.

I don't think it's so much about "humor" or "fun" but about controversy and edginess. The left used to be real edgy once, but now """the left""" (i.e. liberals) is actually really pro-status-quo, moralizing, I would say conservative even.

OP is gone, anyone have a mirror?

Here you go.
my.mixtape.moe/hvbibx.mp4

To believe in economic egalitarianism, you must also believe in biological and cultural egalitarianism, because that's the only way you could justify paying everyone exactly the same. Hence, soccer mom tier ideology. To achieve centralization of economics and maximum efficiency, one must do away with childish fantasies.

so memes decide how the revolution is won? That is honestly fucking dumb as shit

No it isn't.
You don't have to make biology and culture equal to use technology as a substitute for biological ability, for example.

You have no arms.
I give you robot arms
Congratulations!

This is the real reason. The left is declawed and inhabited by phony leftists who are liberals. When the right engages in violence against the opposition, they make excuses and cover themselves while when a nazi gets punched liberals flock to throw us under the bus because they want to seem peaceful and tolerant

SJW Russeau is perhaps my less favorite Rousseau. Well, it's not like he's that brilliant to begin with.

there is no cultural egalitarianism, marxism is culturally positivistic and believes in the natural destruction of tradition through material improvement.
biological egalitarianism follows from any society based on civil rights, your dystopic eugenism is a 20th century pipedream.
just leave.

Robot arms will not magically make a hottentot as smart as a white man

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he doesn't need to be as smart if he's doing a job where smarts aren't required.
innate-smarts are, if anything, a demonstration as to why compensation-differential is unnecessary. smart people will become intellectually bored with the tasks that occupy the stupid, and settle at their own level.

Thanks fam.

do you know what meme means?

There's the liberal employment meme, particularly the ideas that employment is noble, that one's job is one's noble title, and that noble workers have an overriding right to choose the service they provide to society. Once that meme is rejected, smart people will be just fine with doing work that needs to be done. Their minds are mostly free to produce in other economies, say, the household, while assembling widgets no worse than the less intellectual worker.

Hey murricans, how does it feel to live in a nation where everybody has the mind of a 12 years old?

It fucking sucks especially since it's technically the biggest superpower on Earth and it has/can wipe out several nations like it was nothing

They're only having fun because they are sociopaths that don't care about real problems. It's just a game to them.

xD.

No. Tbh that bitch is fucking dumb is she thnks thats all it is about.

Republicanism obviously has a complete end to it & that's when the old farts die. The younger dumb ass memers can't hold the voting power for them alone.

Yeah dude they're fucking terrifying internet nazis.

They're all dumbass fuccbois who get punched in the face after talking about dumb cartoon frog internet mimis.

The old people hold positions of great political & economical power just for themselves through the faster they die out the better.

An antifa woman like her in the video can strive to become a 7/10 if she becomes conservative. She looks average for a city dweller but her eye bags, nose piercing and dyed hair drops her to a 4/10. Depression leads to poor personal hygiene, and antifas aren't usually a happy bunch.

fuck, I swallowed your bait, didn't I?

What do you mean when you say Conservative?

Feels bad man, but arrested development is almost all that's available.

Even if she isn't antifa, my advice still stands.


Conservatives tend to be more happy, which leads to better self esteem, and self image.

But what do you mean by Conservative? Apple pie, the Baptist Church and packets of kool-aid aren't Conservative, the Republicans are not Conservative, in fact no one on the Right is truly Conservative unless they've been completely misinformed. There hasn't been a really powerful Conservative movement since the days of Ned Ludd.

It isn't necessary to have an entire system dedicated to psychological abuse on your side to be happy, but it really helps.

"conservatives" bitch about everything and have a permanent stick up their ass

That's what user said.

This is a pernicious meme tbh

Perhaps self-concept is a curse for you but not for conservatives. Words like “self-confidence,” “self-reliance,” “initiative,” “enterprise,” “optimism,” etc., play little role in the liberal and leftist vocabulary. The leftist is anti-individualistic, pro-collectivist. He wants society to solve everyone’s problems for them, satisfy everyone’s needs for them, take care of them. He is not the sort of person who has an inner sense of confidence in his ability to solve his own problems and satisfy his own needs. The leftist is antagonistic to the concept of competition because, deep inside, he feels like a loser.

Conservatives are fools: They whine about the decay of traditional values, yet they enthusiastically support technological progress and economic growth. Apparently it never occurs to them that you can’t make rapid, drastic changes in the technology and the economy of a society without causing rapid changes in all other aspects of the society as well, and that such rapid changes inevitably break down traditional values.

It's very difficult to be happy when one believes in so many dumb spooks since the world will always be wrong for you, too many dumb taboos.

There is nobody more rabid than Conservatives. The world moves on & they rage. they'll hate until they're dead.

Based Ted

holy shit, huh.
also it's disgusting how Holla Forums are essentially mgtow (Chads) in mentality now but kept pepe, it's as if they're mocking him.


That's because all of today's conservatives are liberals. Their struggles are funny really.

hahahahahahaha you albinoid fuck

This.

Weird twitter is already all about making jokes, fucking around. And they're actually funny.

But I still think that chick is over-estimating the effect internet culture/comedy is having, because the majority of young people are leftists or liberals. Trump didn't win because of pepes, it's just not true. Trump had momentum from day one, Holla Forums had nothing to do with it. Big media heads like Limbaugh, Hannity, O'Reilly and radio hacks had more to do with it by conditioning the Republican base to be filled with total lunatics. They fucking love politics and hate liberals and traitorous Republicans with a passion. These people live for the fucking news and every right wing talking head's hot take on current events. Republicans fall in line, Trump just managed to get a significant portion of the base behind him for the primaries. After that, the entire party electorate had to support him because American politics are very tribal. People have partisan allegiance.

Could they screen the guests tho? I don't want to hear them schmooz rapists like Taibbi

Because the Cold War did a number on "conservatism", to the point that most "conservatives" have no idea what they're even "conserving". Most of the best conservative thinkers have been jaded liberal/leftist converts (and no I don't mean psychotic Jewish neo-cons)

Also "conservatism" is a such a wide umbrella that it's stupid to ascribe as divergent beliefs as

To a singular conservatism, as stupid as insinuating that all socialists ever believe the USSR was humanity's last, best hope at achieving socialism/communism

Sage, hide and report all spectacular threads

Conservatism, as a tradition, actually had a pretty solid anti-capitalist strain. You still see it crop up now and again, at least in rhetoric, in right-wing populist movements today. (Trump, Brexit etc.)

Cold War probably was what cemented conservatism’s obsession with markets. Specifically in America, Buckleyite conservatism à la National Review set the “conservative” agenda as pretty much anti-Soviet (so pro-capitalist), anti-Civil Rights (so implicitly racist), anti-counterculture (so pro-tradition).

The SI were crap, get over them.

Good thing we aren't liberals. No war but the meme war!

They jettisoned that soon after the neo-cons took over the commanding heights of influence (i.e. National Review etc). And I don't blame them, most of the "post-Civil Rights" era has been NIMBYist "I like black people, just keep them away from our neighborhood TIA"

There's literally nothing wrong with having Neanderthal DNA.

Isn't vaporwave a leftist meme?

true.it was first anti-capitalist then it became a parody/satire of capitalism.

Hard to argue with that.

What does her vagina smell like?

The alt-right is a bunch of punch-able people like David Duke or Richard Spencer. People like Milo aren't alt-right.

We live in a post information age. Information isn't enough you need to be amicable, funny, witty, etc.

The average person is just too stupid to care about facts without a show to go with it.

Victory

One of the anons earlier here claimed that leftists have poor hygiene. So she probably smells musky and fishy underneath there.

the alt-right is whoever we want them to be, and currently describes a pretty big tent phenomenon.
There is no point in limiting the definition to a handful of white nationalists, just call them white nationalists.

There is nothing to loose there. It was a pathetic and useless initiative to begin with.

Wasn't really my point and I got side-tracked but I know what you mean.

Weaponized autism aka meme warfare is important was my main point. So many normies get exposed to memes and before you know it their ideologies and beliefs are shifted.

Like I said: post information age. Being intellectual isn't enough. Normies love personality and humor.

Yeah then 4 years went by and the plebs got a hold of it. next they'll find disconsiousness and start meming about mallsoft which is made in response to capitalism making music uninteresting and mellow

just threw up in my mouth, thanks a lot bro

HE WILL NOT DIVIDE US

this as fuck

i wish we would though. because that way you can bring the liberals to the true left side. the democratic party in america is garbage. universal healthcare isn't pushed hard enough. i wish leftists especially on here would be less cynical and try to invite liberals to the right side. you do that by engaging in these art projects. that's why the right is beating us. because we're so fucking uptight.

Instead of shitposting here for weeks about Drumpf and muh idpol and muh liberals you could have been recruiting the people at the HWNDU event distributing literature and dropping blue pills and finally engaging in revolutionary praxis and direct action

I'd much rather do nothing but shitpost online and appear in one protest once a month until Trump is normalized. The easy way.
My petite-bourgeois lifestyle definitely allows it.

go home nazi

not an argument

it's called green pill. back to >>>Holla Forums faggot

Memes are ideas (understanding, awareness..). Ideas were always deciding factor in winning revolutions.

reddit,tumblr,facebook… and other places were subjugating ideas they did not like. 🍀🍀🍀They🍀🍀🍀 were censoring ideas….This is the result.

Where abouts GA cause you aint the only one in this shit state

I was asking about the alt right/fascists and irony two weeks ago and people couldn't get over muh Sam Hyde dogshit.

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Sam Hyde fans can't get over Sam Hyde.

It's called the redpill.

Not a lot of people know this, but back when Holla Forums was a cross breed of astroturfed Ron Paul fans and legit communists, the redpill was a way of ironically referring to reading Marx.

Why, after all, do you think it's called the "red" pill?

Haha oh wow

fucking manlets, when will they learn?

```No```
Because of this (pic related)

wow you must be an oldfag (^:

lol i know her… should i dox?

How can you tell? She seems like every snarky eternally teenage bitch who thinks she is witty and le smart.

Because of the matrix you fucking political infant clown

For teenagers maybe. The right's sense of humour is honestly edgy as fuck shit that only contrarian retard teenagers would find funny.

Honest and I say this for myself, if I was 14 and not 29, I would love Holla Forums, but hey, I'm not a fucking 14 year old.

Honestly Holla Forums, Comemeism, Declasscucking Memes, Weird Twitter etc etc are legitimately funny and more importantly, clever. The right is honestly juvenile.

"LOL NIGGER PEPE NIGGER"

I mean, honestly, compared to 4chan golden era (2004-2007) Holla Forums is complete shit. At least 4chan used to be creative with it's humour.

Keep loosing lol


What the hell has made you perceive that this is what Holla Forums humor is? Saying nigger by itself isn't funny or reactionary. They address the black crime problem in the USA(12 % of the population committing over half of all violent crime) which triggers you faggots who think it doesn't exist or exists because of the traditional bourgeoisie cracka racists when it can be explained simply as "niggers gonna nig look at haiti faggot". The fact of the matter is Holla Forums is filled with lower class whites who actually had to be around black people and know them first hand, and when the mainstream (leftism) is trying to force-feed you the opposite it leads to reactionary behavior. Holla Forums humor when it comes to blacks is mocking their childish behaviors/ideologies that we ALL know too well. yadimean playa?

wow you're right dude you guys sure know comedy. that shit is a riot

youtu.be/AdNAhlqnxA0

if you call Holla Forums the "alt-right" then just take Holla Forums and make it /lefty/
theres your alt-left or ctrl-left or shift-left

weird twitter is like 100% libshits tho

The reason that the Alt-Right is considered "fun" or "funny" is because most of them are not even that far right nor are they actual "Fascists" or "National Socialists" they merely take some general right-wing beliefs and put on a new coat of paint.

The key to defeating them or fazing them out is to make the left more "fun" and "funny" again and to make the right less "fun" and "funny" the way we should approach this is merely to bring the real Fascists and Right Wingers into the open, take for example this guy:

chechar.wordpress.com/2016/01/01/ethnosuicidal-nationalists/

I highly recommend you go and look at the "degenerate art" tag on his blog and look at the articles and the comments therein complaining about all sorts of things like rock music and I'm pretty sure even Video Games although I haven't specifically looked up video games on the website but I'm sure hes got some comments about that as well. Now to be fair this guy is just as insincere as the rest of him since he watches shit like Game of Thrones and praises 2001: a space odyssey even though it was made by a jew, he also seems to continue to quote and reference the bible to support his arguments even though he keeps saying that the bible is evil and not in line with Not Socialism, which is understandable since every modern day Not Socialist needs to constantly exercise cognitive dissonance at all times just to function. But look at this comment right here in response to a typical alt-righter trying to defend his taste in Metal Music:

"I won’t even attempt to match Roger in his response. However, allow me to second Chechar’s trenchant one-word response: rubbish. The video is the same cacophony that masquerades as “Western music”: brassy “voice”, monkey drums, simplistic rhythms, and idiotic melodies. If one truly enjoys Beethoven and the Western tradition in music, there can be no “appreciation” of this horrid trash.

I apologize as it’s not my purpose to browbeat you, but your promotion of said “music” is prima facie evidence that the West is defunct. We have screechings and caterwaulings of “singers” and “guitarists” that pass for music. If you truly understand classical music, you wouldn’t push this crap. Furthermore, I don’t accept the claim that one can’t constantly listen to the Masters. If you internalized the Spirit of Western Music you would not have written that. Western Music, as Roger showed, is “diverse”; from Gregorian chant to Shostakovich.

Again, I’m not here to offend nor to insult you. Please stick with classical music and make yourself the promise that you will avoid the above video and its ilk and replace them with nothing but Classical music and traditional European folk music."

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You see that? That finger waving, that whole accusation of their hobby's being degenerate and ordering them to burn it all and only listen to two genres of music, that general hatred of anything new or experimental? The thing is all the way back in 2003 there was actually quite a lot of animosity towards the right wing, after all, you had people like Jack Thompson and etc trying to crack down on violent video games and TV, you had the whole "rapelay" scare and etc, those people didn't disappear they merely dissipated into the background and were replaced by dumb memers and underageb&'s who don't actually know what they are playing with.

What we need to do is bring back the un-fun right that was always the real right, people like the guy I linked and people like Common Filth are a start but we really need to go even further, like I said that guy is still a hypocrite and so is Common Filth. (Still believes that Rap Music is okay for him to listen to because ___????) we need to go full undercover and start using their own arguments and beliefs against them and anything they enjoy, I often committed subterfuge on Holla Forums this way and always, ALWAYS causes a shit storm and division and general undermining of the structure of their presence online and the thing is I'm not even really engaging in real subversion or anything like that, all I do is pretty much quote these right wing beliefs word for word sentiment for sentiment and change a minimum of words to make it relevant to the discussion, I'm merely holding the pretend Nazi's and dumb "alt-righters" to their own "standards".


Now we know that a bunch of the alt-right and etc have been campaigning against porn and this had started to alienate SOME people but you know a lot of the weebs wont make the connection between porn and hentai and we need to start holding them to that too, but its not just that, lets lead them into a crusade against rock music, fuck it lets led them into a crusade against any music that is not classical, lets lead them into a crusade against video games, violent movies, just anything that can even possibly be construed as "degenerate", I guarantee before long you will start to see the Anime Avatar ones start to flake out the gamer's start to flake out the Norse metal right wingers may even break off somehow, their presence will be undermined and then they will be reminded of the "unfun moral faggot right" that Holla Forums used to mock and chase out back in the old times. I love this method of attack because it really does come from within and is the most satisfying way of fucking them up, there is literally nothing more fun than figuratively impaling a man with his own blade. And that's why I have learned to observe, imitate, infiltrate, and attack the weak support beams that hold their cultural relevance in place.

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The Alt-Right, (not the autistic e-celeb leadership) Holla Forums and people who say "cuck" etc is just people shitposting in response to left liberal identity politics. I mean sure they may belive that right wing arguments and spooks are superior to left liberal arguments and spooks (because they are) but that's as far as it goes. they either want the public discourse, the media and the cultural zeitgeist to be on their side or they want to be le edgy counterculture secret club.

The remainder of the most serious ones are psychotic larpers or just average psychotics and even among those you will seldom find anyone who will be willing to go as far as joining the storm-troopers and fight commies, SJW's and the police outside of the law. I mean sure if Trump instituted a right wing paramilitary death squad then he would get plenty of recruits since the state now allows this but that will lead to a fucking civil war. If the state instituted black deeply triggering and problematic SJW squads that have legal licence to track and hunt down racists and Alt-right members they would get plenty of volunteers as well but that would also lead to a fucking civil war.

I know, your basically retreading what I was talking about when I was saying that these guys are actually not that right wing and merely jumping on a meme bandwagon for lol's and attention and some pats on the back, I'm pointing out that it is those shit posters and generally insincere not actually as right wing as they think they are people that is making the right seem "funny" and "fun" and drawing people who are usually on the younger spectrum in. These are the ones that usually make the memes and image macro's and song parodies and other shit.

I'm saying we can totally shove a wrench in the gears by practicing a sort of accelerationism where we help make the right so unwelcoming, so uncompromising, so unapproachable, shove the stick so far up its ass that none of these people will go near it again, these people like to repel people with the whole "cuck" "jew" etc thing but what happens when they are the ones getting called out as "cucks" and "jews" and getting disavowed and pushed out of their own "movement"? Only the most Neurotic ones will remain at the end of the spiral, and they don't have the rebellious creativity to make anything "fun" or "funny".

Just the other day I was thinking about some of the films that were denied in Not Socialist Germany because they made fun of the Jews, that's right you heard me correctly, you see Hitler and Goebbels believed that people should hate and revile the Jews and not laugh at them, now how many image macro's and Holla Forums shit do you know that makes fun of the Jews? A ton right? Well now you can go and use this argument against anybody trying to make fun or light of the Jew's and if they try to resist you can call them a cuck a race traitor a degenerate or whatever you wish and they wont be able to do anything against you as long as your prepared and can imitate well enough.

Somebody bring up brave new world or Aldous Huxley? Remind them that Huxley's literature was banned in NSDAP Germany and yell at them to stop using degenerate literature as an argument.

It's 2017 you spooked cuck. Did you even watch any of fucking HWNDU troll streams? Most of the fucking /polacks/ were not white, it was Asians spics and blacks shitposting.


youtube.com/watch?v=e5-Zp-RSPX8

youtube.com/watch?v=oADKD0fYM1I

youtube.com/watch?v=5rsA8TD6LoA

they are seen as edgy because they say taboo shit you aren't allowed to touch in the mainstream discourse. Observe the political spectrum, you can say pretty much whatever the fuck you want in the left wing spectrum besides maybe direct agitation to kill capitalists, while all the left-liberal shit is completely mainstream everywhere, since these are not dangerous ideas in public discourse they are status quo ideas.

no

Neo nazis like meme culture because it validates their defects "A haha ha niggers! ahahaha Stacy" and so on
For example there are lots of meme from nice guys complainig that women go after chads and put them into the friendzone but there are no memes from chads talking about chad stuff because chads have no insecurities that can be played off with memes.
There are lots of memes about niggers and kikes because those are ideologies but there are no memes about class truggle because class war is very real.


Rightists today are tremendous hypocrites but pushing them back into being boring christian conservatives is pointless.
Its not an issue of fun left vs unfynny right that is ideology, we need to put the workers in the cenetre of it and make clear that no matter how many memes the right has or how many bibles they have read they are anti worker first of all.

because the premise is repeating the same phrase into a camera for 4 years?

I know, that's why I think we should use and abuse the blatant hypocrisy as an opportunity to strike blows and fractures into the right from within.

Can you explain to me why you think It would be pointless?

As I said, we need to put workers in the centre and move this away from funny vs unfunny

Nothing I've seen on this stream was funny.

She seemed like an apolitical memer or a moderate leaning alt-rightist, she kept referring to leftists as "you guys" and tried really hard to come off centrist.
Holla Forums assumes all the women who are right wing are pure virgin fairies which wear pajamas all day and never used makeup and it's just delusional.

Holla Forums has already decided that she's 4/10, but she could be 7/10 if she was conservative.

They also talk about Thule, Atlantis, UFO's, and the philosophy of Kant, Hegel, Schelling and other German Idealists

Shamelessly reposting myself from another thread.

What you really need in order to discredit them is humor. It's a vastly underrated tool when it comes to ruining someone's image. And the interesting thing is, there seems to be a strong correlation between authoritarianism and lack of humor. Look how much Bolsheviks and Nazis prized solemnity and pomp. Having a sense of humor humanizes you to other people. When the next big socialist movement comes, I hope they understand the importance of taking some things lightly.

Big caveat: the aut-right. I'm honestly baffled at how babby porkies and petty-fash managed to churn out so much comedy these past couple of years. This much touted "meme war" that they won is largely due to humor.

*tips fedora* you are wise, sir

you see..this is a problem. You would have to have workers for that.

Also, workers are traditionally not just "left" base..they are also "right" base. After all….NSDAP was abbreviation of Not Socialist German Workers' Party.

And NSDAP was very successful in employment of white males (they did not count in statistics jews and women)

Fascism is not right-wing, it's a short-term centrist compromise to fight off Communism movements.
Liberalism is right-wing.

One poster doesn't speak for all of Holla Forums. If she ditched the emo-metal high school attire, let her natural hair color grow out and lose the facial piercings she might appear above average.

But /pol are not fascists. They are ==word that is forbidden here==

Think about that…it is not even aloud to write this world here. And word "fascism" is allowed. Did anyone wonder why ?

Dunno man, the mods must be Jews trying to keep us weak minded leftists from finding our about nat​ional socialism.

Yes you're getting it!

Not Socialism is Fascism.

Because you're a stupid fucking newfag.
NEWFAGS CAN'T REDTEXT

I have no reason to be "enemies" with most MAGA people. Demographically, the average MAGA person is a 40-80 year old middle class man who has been screwed over badly by the political class. Why should he be my enemy? Because he didn't vote for the awful liberal approved candidate? I see him as a potential ally.

Now the media elites and other porky tools endlessly shitting on these poor folk, those are my enemies.

I know full well why, it was done because of fags trying to claim that Nat. Soc. was socialism because it has "socialism" in the name and something something state controls everything. It was wordfiltered to Not Socialism to helpfully remind these idiots that they're wrong the moment they hit the reply button.

But go ahead, keep telling us how we're trying to keep you down with your shitty meaningless images and "huh really makes you think" mentality.

Thank you for informing me

the NSDAP introduced the labor standards that took decades for the rest of the world to catch up on (and even now some of the benefits are still not met in the US). To be a worker in Nazi Germany was a pleasure compared to conditions in the USSR

And now you are certain it is not socialism ?

Well, it seems you showed that idiots who is right .


Stuff is censored here…also on facebook…reddit…that has consequences. I was just trying to point this out in a helpful manner.

Not really. You can post a thread about notional socialism and as long as you're civil it won't be deleted.

USSR was agrarian society at the time. Germany was not. NSDAP had head start. USSR did catch up with time

I was certain it was not socialism before the wordfilters. The core concept of socialism is elimination of privately owned business property and marketed commodity production. Nat. Soc. in Germany ended up privatizing large amounts of government sector business and made zero attempt to eliminate commodities or markets.

By no means is the topic banned from discussion (as long as you keep it an actual discussion, something people struggle to grasp the concept of), and you're not punished for getting around it. You can use Νational Socialism. The wordfilters are to stop people from vomiting out a half dozen meme arguments and declaring themselves winners because nobody can actually grapple with the non-ideas behind them.

It is really censored if you look at the meaning of word censorship.

Censorship is the name for the process or idea of keeping things like obscene word or graphic images from an audience.

If you can not write national it is censored.

If you write 🍀🍀🍀 jew 🍀🍀🍀 with three sets of parenthesis it gets censored.

And (to my knowledge) there is no list of all things that are censored. This is just examples that I know of. There are probably other stuff that gets you inst banned. Anyone know more examples ?

BTW, /pol is also censored. I got banned more on /pol than here. i am just providing examples for /leftypol because we are on /leftypol.

Yeah but the parenthesis and the "not socialism" is really funny.

It isn't censorship. We all know what it means. It is humour.
Post a non-meme tier thread about not-socialism, you'll get better discussion of it here than on Holla Forums.

disgusting tbh.

I wish.

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There are no terms that get you banned. The only thing that gets you banned is acting like a jackoff. Nobody is banned for (​(​(Getting around the wordfilters for Νational Socialism and wh​ite geno​cide)​)​). It's just to stop idiots from thinking their memes constitute legitimate arguments.

I was under impression this is concept of communism… socialism is intermediary phase.


Commodities were under government control as were markets.

Export and Import

The foreign trade was heavily regulated since the outbreak of the Great Depression in 1931. The first emergency regulations should block the repayment of foreign loans and capital flight. The English pound has devalued by 40% in 1931, followed by many currencies that were bound to it, the U.S. dollar devalued as well by 40% in 1933. The German mark could not be devalued (especially because of the recent hyperinflation), but lost many export markets. The export would be revived by subsidies.

The imports were overseen through a number of offices ("Überwachungsstellen"), that would expertly decide, whether a particular import was necessary. The trade balance was so under control and the exports could rise - in this way, the exchange rate of the mark could be kept stable as well and was considered a success.

Price controls

An office for the oversight of prices was opened at the end of 1931, during the worst of Depression. It forced a decrease of wages, interest rates and related prices. When in 1936 the general level of prices started to rise as a consequence of the military spending, it was replaced with a 'comissar for the creation of prices'. In November of that year was issued a price stop, that forbade any price or wage increases; very few exceptions were granted. Finally, in June, 1938, were the cartels given the right to set maximum wages, and the Dienstverpflichtung ('service duty') was introduced, ending the free choice of a workplace.

The natural interplay of supply and demand has ceased completely and the price mechanism lost its regulating effect on the market. The foundations of the market economy were destroyed and turned into a system of rationing, a pure command economy. The purchasing power of money seemed to be preserved, but the economy was still doomed. A new wave of inflation was initiated, while the prices were kept low archive.is/PIJJH

Did you know all this ?


Or to censor information what was actually happening between 2 WW in germany ?

Why it is funny ? It is a joke ?

It is funny to you. But this is actually forbidding people to talk on some subjects.


I know that. /pol has some other issues which can be discussed at latter time. I am aware of them. Right now we are discussing subject of "Unfunny Liberals and the Rise of the Alt-Right "

It's not, banning subjects is banning subjects, wordfilters is trolling tourists.

Did the workers in Nazi Germany own the means of production?

Yes, Not Socialism is a joke. I'm glad everyone's finally on the same page here.

no, you should fuck her. she seems like shes got her head on straight.

I really can't see the reason why the left has all this hatred for Trump, yeah I guess he is a capitalist, hurr.

But he's no Cruz or one of those other GOPE morons. He'll probably make such deals we could never have gotten from a Democrat from the elites. Putting hilldog up against Trump was funniest of all competitions, she didn't even have a messages besides diversity which was so nebulous anyways.

The Democrats are just digging themselves a deeper and deeper hole, under Trump if they were smart they could start putting things on the table they could never do before with a Republican. Something the GOPE would be against but something the people would want and so the people would fight for it.

No instead we're gonna get HWDU like a cult into a webcam along with Schumer crying, very sad.

If I am not mistaken…we are discussing on this topic idiots and their memes that are destroying liberals. And number of idiots (as you claim) are growing.

wordfilters are form of censorship.

Did workers in USSR own the means of production ?

Do workers in china own the means of production ?

ahahah ?

:rolleyes.gif:

Repeating it doesn't make it true.
We know EXACTLY what you're saying. You have a very broad definition of censorship.

there is nothing wrong with censorship, you imbecile

But this really isn't censorship.

i hate to say it, but your idea of infiltrating and subverting is likely too late. that ship sailed years ago. Holla Forumsacks have been communicating at this point for years. theyve finally actually read books, sharpened their rhetoric, and they can catch someone who is an outsider simply from the way they type. this plan of attack would be more effective on halfchan and reddit etc, but even there it would be difficult to go unnoticed. unless of course you are a longtime lurker.

and here is the other problem. the alt-right is just as much a reactionary movement to the old right as it is to the old left. in my opinion, the best possible course of action is to go to libshit protests and do our own reverse-COINTEL. try and undo some of the braindamage that was done to these poor saps when they were at occupy. remember, we always have the numbers, whether or not the numbers are aware they are on our side yet, and direct action is and has always been the only way to get the revolution ball rolling (atleast in any serious way)

It is, stop kidding yourself to quieten down that part of your brain that remains liberal.
Censorship is good and cool.

about 85% of the modern liberal's brain is marxist

There is no significant difference between socialism and communism when viewed from a systemic viewpoint, the main difference as is currently understood is that communism is the point at which human labor is no longer necessary to sustain daily living and production.

True or not, large parts of german infrastructure and manufacture, save notably railroads, were handed off to private corporations. They did indeed remain under tight government monitoring, but they were still privately owned.

You're freely allowed and even encouraged to discuss what happened, just as long as you can do it without meme arguments and terms. It's not because we can't handle memes, but because they're spammed and are used to prevent conversation rather than further it.

That doesn't change the fact that memes aren't actually arguments. They're incomplete thoughts. Whether or not they destroy other people who can't construct complete political concepts is irrelevant.

That's a point of contention between the branches of the left.

No they don't, that's why we consider them fuckups, barring the Tankies and Maoists. Now answer my question.

Millions of Soviet men and women died so some fucking neet who calls himself a communist in 2017 denounces their sacrifice against Fascism and their struggle against Capitalist countries and then signals against them to convert SJW cucks to the ideology of weaponized autism

You must be talking about someone else, because I have a job.

breitbart.com/tech/2017/02/07/berlin-report-92-left-wing-activists-live-parents-one-three-unemployed/

You must be the class enemy

Do you struggle with walking?

You must be some ignorant newfag. Take your shallow attacks and bait and bring them to somebody who gives a shit.

implying you give a shit about anything besides your own asshole you have no country, no principles morals fucking nothing

UNLIKE US WORSHIP OLD DEAD DUDES!

Triggered, also wrong.

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You're wrong, I have the most important thing of all: myself.

take the Buddhapill

The world is my country, fag.

What does that do for me?

And socialism is a intermediate point to communism. Also, NSDAP is Not Socialist German Workers' Party. In socialism there can be private property as you are aware. Which in no means negete my point that commodities and markets were under government control. Which is characteristics of socialist systems. NSDAP was socialist.

If you write Not Socialist you get not socialist. But they were socialist. By name and by economic principles.


Successful memes are complete thoughts. Not everything that people claim are memes are really memes.


No, it is not. Socialism in intermediate stage to communism. If state (or private owners) own means of production than that state is socialist. If workers own means of production than it is communism.

No, they did not own means of production. This is why it was a socialist state and not a communist one. Also, NSDAP was a socialist party, not communist.


:)

If your country is "world" than you have no country at all.

Bitch, what the fuck?

What do you not understand ?

In communism workers own means of productions. In socialism that process is not finished and ownership is mixed. Socialist (marxist) believe it is necessary phase between capitalism and communism. Socialist (marxist) get co-opted in processes by capitalist.

In Marxist theory, socialism, also called lower-stage communism or the socialist mode of production, refers to a specific historical phase of economic development and its corresponding set of social relations that supersede capitalism in the schema of historical materialism.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_mode_of_production

I mean, this is /leftypol…you should know basic difference between socialism and communism at least.

No please don't. She's cute.

This isn't right man. Read a book nigga.

I understand that you have no fucking idea what socialism is.

yes it is.

neither do marx or lenin, apparently

Communism is a stateless end goal of socialism.
Socialism is workers owning the means of production.
Prove me wrong.

Please.

I don't want this board to be run by antifa looking to make this a new battleground for doxing people.

you actually do not know difference between socialism and communism ?


Not stateless…but..whatever…
fine
In what socialist country did workers own means of production ?
EOD

Rojava, the EZLN communes, Yugoslavia….

Yes, stateless.

State socialist countries have claimed to manage the means in the name of the workers.

It's actually hilarious that you post that image.

Country..this are not country’s.
Nope

Nope
Porky also claims a lot of things. By claiming something that thing does not become a fact.

Are there more images like this? I didn't know MAGA crowd was this autistic.

Provide a source.

Provide a source.

Haha oh wow

The defintions vary from orthodox marxists to leftcoms to leninists and so on, most of all to anarchists. Don't source some highschool teacher's slideshow on topics people on this board have actually studied.

I don't know why there's still a thread arguing that Nazis were Socialists. They were absolutely basic SocDems in their praxis at best and early proponents of privatization at worse.

They had no intention to abolish private property at any point in time, their "Socialism" was the purely romantic variety of "bringing dignity to the poor" that your average Christ-fag was already advocating a long time ago.

Even if Asser and his wing of the party had more radical goals at any point in time they never managed to put it into policy and were subsequently purged.

You want me to provide a source for your claim ? This is bizarre
This is a women (pic related)

Provide a source for your claims about communism and about socialism.

Who ever learned you have learnt you wrong.


We are not arguing that NSDAP was socialist. it is a fact they were socialist. By their name and economy policies. I was just providing data to anons who were interested in more information. There is no arguing.

And they had complete market control, complete control of imports and exports, complete control of their currency…..among other things. I can paste links again if you want me to…

I did…lenin quote ? What, do you want me to quote capital ? What is there to provide source for…in socialist country’s workers do not own means of production. Which you can check in any wiki of socialist country. In communist country workers own means of production. This is the reason why there is no communist country’s. It is not complicated. It is literately first thing you learn about difference between socialism and communism. At least that is what i thought up until now….

*hurr the USSR wasn't socialist despite the name lel the workers didn't own the means of production it clearly capitalist autism manual says so right here!*


*NAZI germany was not socialist despite the name lel it was capitalist read autism manual again!*

That quote wasn't a source for the claims I contested.

Lenin called the USSR State Capitalist.


So you're just a lolbert?
If Hitler (and Bernie and FDR …) was a Socialist then no one on this board but SocDem flag is. We're all Communists, and want to destroy Socialism as it is a tool to tame the working class into accepting their subservience.
Our beliefs are not compatible, only your flawed terminology is.
That's not how philosophy works anywhere in the world, we define our terms first, argue their conclusions later.

that's fucking corny lmao.

the reason why these memes dont work is because in order to be interesting they must say something different. This sort of leftist ideology has been "edgy" for the past 60 years or so. It isn't different anymore. It isn't edgy. It has to be new and something totally oppositional for it to work in meme format.

The only way to really combat the 4chan style of memery is to co opt aspects of their own ideology in a leftist sort of format, in the same way Trump co opted a few leftist positions and framed them in a right wing format.

either that or just come up with a new leftist paradigm entirely. One completely divorced from issues of race or social justice, or equality.

Lolz

Why would we do that?

This, the new left should label white people as inferior, we need white geNOWcide

I'm comfortable with this.

False flag

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Because socialists repeating tired slogans of "social justice" or equality doesn't do anything for anyone. It has the same effect of middle aged white liberals saying it. It's lame, and ultimatley divorced from reality. The world and people are not perfect and they do not have the capability to be perfect. "Hate" will always exist. Fear will always exist. You wont get rid of these until you get rid of people entirely and replace them with robots or robot hybrids.

Successful opposition to the "alt-right" must come from a place of genuine emotion and non-intellectually superior attitude. A more successful campaign i think would look more like the old school socialists and progressive movements of the 20th century. Race and various social tribes were largely ignored in favor of real economic inequalities and apparent truths. One memeworthy quote from way back then went something like
"Capitalism is you mining for the gold, sifting through it, cleaning it, purifying it, but by some act of magic someone else owns it".

Thats the whole point

yeah but that's 1) a long way away and 2) Id be willing to consent to medical implants but you can get fucked if you think youre touching my limbic system

Doesn't mean they aren't actively promoted.
I don't see the point here though, when people argue for "social justice" they generally have somewhat tangible claims like reparations and affirmative action and wealth redistribution and even language policing, regardless of the validity of those things you're arguing against a strawman right now.

They don't need opposition, they'll crash on their own.
. . .
That's what propaganda's for but first we need to determine what goal that propaganda should serve, that's what Zizek says, Don't Act, Think. That's the reason this board is so concerned about reading (or pretending to read) books. There is no solid leftist movement and no solid leftist goals, SYRIZA and Podemos are proof of that.
There's no point in cheering for "our team" when they don't even have a game plan, otherwise we're just populists feeding into the machine of indignation and opportunism.
. . .

This generation is so gay. We've got Marxists and Not Socialists LARPing about being revolutionaries and all either side does is knock over trash cans or cry.

When the entire crux of your movement is anti-capitalist, being a corrupt capitalist kleptocrat is hardly something to just skim over like that.

"Alt-right" and MAGA appeals to people who haven't actually thought about politics in any meaningful manner and instead would rather repeat catchphrases and memes. I mean they don't even know what "left" is even though they're quick to claim cultural marxist leftist conspiracy by feminazi libtard transethnic quasi-gendereds. A lot of them are ex-gamergate reactionaries who simply picked the opposite side from the bunch of reactionaries giving them shit. Politics is just like a game or sport to them. Only thing is that liberalism is already right-wing, masquerading as "left," so surprise when they go even further right in response. One fundamental problem is that most are so far into it they won't admit that they picked this side for the dumbest, most shallow reasons, will drink more Kool-aid and will start to believe the absurdity they're a part of now.

The one thing I've really come to get is that leftism requires thought and actual experience with the world (e.g., meeting other ethnicities, dealing with work and alienation, actually going to college to know it isn't a conspiracy brainwash academy). I think I don't need to detail why ex-gamergaters and such are not the prime demographic for this.

this is true, no matter how stupid your enemies are or seem to be, never underestimate. Hell underestimating is part of what got a porky TV personality elected president

I did.

This is a problem. You have country…people get to power and try to create communist country. They can not create communist country from the beginning because they have just confiscated all wealth from porky. And they have internal and external enemy…Then they create socialist country with intention to create communist country when it is possible. Time passes by and this people become porky and they have all the wealth under their control. And (of course) they do not want to relinquish control of country (means of production) to peasants (workers) because they are elite (porky) and understand what is better for people. Then some other people come and start talking about revolution and relinquishing control of means of production to workers. rinse and repeat (pic related).

porky does not want to let go of control. Problem is…porky is whoever has a power. And communism would mean relinquishment control to people.

This is the reason why lenin was communist and after losing election he started to talk about "state capitalism". He was aware that workers are not ready to take control of means of production. Or, he became porky….depends how you look at it.

This is the reason why Fanya Yefimovna Kaplan tried to kill lenin. Because she considered him ‘traitor to the revolution’

"left" does not know what "left" is. And with issues of social justice,lgbtq or equality "left" are just populists feeding into the machine of indignation and opportunism.

That's one extreme form of autocratic socialism. And I agree, it doesn't work.
What we need is socialism from below. We need a Representative Democracy, but with a lot more input from the local level. Socialism combined with some meritocracy would be great. In an anti-Democratic capitalist society we get parasites, lawyers, and finance guys ruling us. In an anti-Democratic socialist society we get Party Members or Generals ruling us.

We could start off as SocDem like Sweden and eventually evolve into a Democratic Socialist Society. Or go straight to Democratic Socialism. For either of those scenarios to play out, we will need some sort of revolution, be it political or otherwise.
Without a doubt, we are living in interesting times in the United States. Things are going so bad that organized backlashes may be possible in the upcoming years/months/or even days.

HWNDU is closed.

theverge.com/2017/2/10/14575706/shia-labeouf-trump-art-exhibit-live-stream-closed-due-to-violence

You mean like austrian economics and social darwinism

Fuck off Holla Forumsfag

Hell, no need to go back to the 20th, it's what Sanders was all about: respectfull interaction with all people, even the deplorables, and an unswerving focus on economic issues over idpol (even if he took all the right and progressive stances there also).

They have tangible claims, but they only offer up a non-tangible exchange. People who won't benefit from any of that, the normative crowd, will not take them up on their offer just because it is "the right thing to do". Banking on white guilt won't get you diddly squat outside of a college crowd experimenting with radicalism on daddy and mommy bourgie's account.

If you want social justice, it will have to be bought, and bought by redistribution that benefits all common folk at the expense of our ever so virtuous bourgies, who are the ones most versed in idpol (pure coincidence, I'm sure).

Oh my God didn't even last a month, Holla Forums won.

Yes our Elite Liberal overlord Shia the Booth has fallen. It's time to close it down people, the Arch Republican Drumpf has won :'((

I'm not the guy you're replying to but you have kind of a bad grasp of Soviet politics.

First, "porky" is not just "whoever has power" because the idea that there is power itself says nothing about the class character of a country. The French Revolution sent power from the monarchy to the bourgeoisie, and it was revolutionary enough to be central in the Marxist analysis of history. The transition from capitalism to feudalism itself was revolutionary. Marxists don't believe in immediately abolishing any hierarchy and structure, this is ahistorical.


Being manager of public property is utterly different from being a owner of private property. And the reason they didn't want to relinquish control of the means of production is not because of a class impulse, which would imply that they own these nationalized properties, but because the Soviet economy was already structured as a managerial economy from the beginning.


The reason for that is historical materialism, which is a basic tenet of the Marxist worldview:


So Russia, as a predominantly agrarian country still dominated by an aristocracy and with a relatively underdeveloped capitalist economy, still needed to go through a period of bourgeois liberalism (or some equivalent) before it was ready for any qualitative step towards Socialism. To say Lenin did a flip flop with "state capitalism" is utterly ignorant. Don't believe me? Read his works on the agrarian question, some dating decades before the October revolution when he was as far from power as he could be. He discusses which type of capitalism Russia could adapt, and he described the American model as ideal:


Contrary to what conceited ignorance suggests, the goal of no revolutionary socialist regime in the 20th century was to magically create a perfect communist society, as they were painful aware of the roads of the development they still needed to take, particularly as revolutions kept occuring in the peripheries of capitalism.

So the question is a lot more complex than "oh there was still a ruling class", and certainly more complex than whatever you meant by this:

Tbh i don't understand why some off you guys have such a dry humor.
The HWNDU stream was pretty funny and most off these guys came from Holla Forums.
Just enjoy the show and stop doxxing people.

milo is part of the "New Trump focused Right"

Irony is not at all funny anymore, and "trolling" is a shit excuse for being a retard.

A lot of Holla Forums comes from /lit/ which means they hate postmodern humor for how weak, cliched, and exaggeratedly expressed it is.

It's irrelevant what someone claims that he said, In the end a Jew is a Jew, Jews were banned from holding any significant role in government or private business and they certainly were not allowed into a directorial roles. Furthermore many of Kubrick's films would almost certainly be considered "degenerate" even excusing his Jewish origin especially The Shining, its a well known fact that Hitler and Goebbels despised horror film and made sure to suppress it to the best of their abilities.

dry humour is best humour
It's an acquired taste.

It's the only right kind of humour.

I think we tend to like dryer humor here because we tend to be a little older than Holla Forums and most of halfchan in general. A lot of them are under 18.

Also, we never doxxed anyone here. We aren't cunts

people here have no humor unless it conforms to their ideological basis

The most popular memes are based on the most primal truth, a truth subhumans and kikes try to destroy and corrupt.

You can't fight truth, you can't fight nature.

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Damn dat edge bruh.