"Decolonizing RPGs. RPGs have a violence problem." - Feminist

(((Meinberg)))

I agree though

Have you learned nothing? They don't actually want to make something of their own, they just want to pervert and destroy anything that hwite cis males like. They never cared about vidya or tabletops or comics, they just want to cram their (((diversity))) into every fucking throat they can.

that chick getting punched in the face was in a porno. someone post it

What?

it's almost as if con artists play both sides of the field or something, like ideals are nothing but tools to motivate idiots into doing what you want them to do.

I'm saying there will be imminent booty blasted anons screeching about horseshoe theory because you posted that.

it still doesn't make any sense to me, whats the endgame. Just ruin every entertainment medium till you have nothing left? it'll be like the bad end from lego island

How about you jump in a lake you cock-smoking ass pirate

It's power. The more they moral busybody and get people to bow down to their wishes, the more power they have to keep doing it. They don't actually want "less violence in videogames" They just want the power to police it.

The endgame is the destruction of the construct known as the white race.

they don't see it like that, they just see an injustice according to them and it must be corrected. It is especially easy here because they aren't involved with the industry and the medium so they can just say shit and it won't matter and if it died they wouldn't feel like they lost anything

also inb4 OP remains (1) and done

Could you let Lavos out to destroy the planet while you're at it? Or at least rampage in the middle of California and Israel for a bit?

You can't really in b4 if he never comes back.

sometimes it's not always a massive undertaking of some organization but instead opportunists taking opportunities

Scared of the cyber-police, John Podesta?

They're not even trying to be subtle about the slow, gradual feminization of modern day men any more.

But I've never played any FF or Persona game in my life.

Welcome to seven years ago

HMMMMMMMMMMMMm

They want control on there terms. It's not about taking away your violent games for them it about having control on what your allowed to consume. Teaming up with Jack would not do them any favours on that front.

those dastardly vidyas teaching you to shoot up your school

I wish I could recall it's name, but there was that CRPG one set in space future post apocalypse Rome. You could beat the whole game without ever killing a single guy and still gained a ton of skills regardless.

Age of Decadence?

Ah yes that was it.
No violence at all required, the world was as it was and you could do as you please. Super nice.

In commemoration of the OP, let's name some games where you get to colonize the barbarity out of savages.
Victoria II is the most obvious one.

From the article or what ever you call these blog posts nowadays:

Actually starting a paragraph with a "But", anyway, this has to be the weirdest interpretation of Battlestar Galactica I have ever read. "It's cycles of violence" I swear guys, humans are bad, you are bad, donate more to my 0%Tax donation scam.

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I'm with you!

expedition:conquistador. Shame about the sequel.

Would Civilization count? I mean you do go on genocidal barbarian crusades when they piss you off enough.

Also, you can civilize the savage tribes of greenskins as Dwarfs in Total Warhammer.

Fabulous game. Great recommendation, user.

I still need to invest some hours into it, I need to get my Conquistador on.

Step up your colonial game, user.
Get out. Do they provide tax revenue and soldiers or something?

This gave me an idea

Play a full racist / greedy party for maximum fun, burning down villages and killing brown savages.

2005?

Now this is something I can get behind.
It'll be just like my French colonial cartoons.

Oh silly user, that's the only way to play.

Also from the blog post:

See how no answers of any kind are given in this blog. The wording is fucking terrible. It basically says that: "I don't have any answers to anything, but here are my feelings and you should obey. Go work to make me fell better." What a complete asshole of a person.

When I say civilize, I mean in the "scorched earth" type of civilized. You just go into the badlands and set the festering spores ablaze so that the barbarous Orcs can never return.

Y'know, with all the anti-violence in video games sentiment the SJWs are spouting nowadays, you'd think now would be the perfect time to bring back puzzle-adventure games. But even shit like Tex Murphy and Myst is probably too much for their kind.

If you're that big of a cuck that you're getting feminized by a bunch of shrieking landwhales you probably shouldn't reproduce anyway.

The tranny maymay is a plot to get the undesirables to willfully remove themselves from the genepool

I was about to say, only a fool would let an Orc live.
Filthy animals, they are.

Pretty sad if you ask me

How about you contribute to the Colonial Vidya discussion, then.
Salvage this shitty thread.

The soccer moms were misguided, the feminists are just evil.

He's (1) and done himself user, filter and continue

sage for zero contribution

there's nothing to salvage

Lavos wants humanity's best genetic material, but feminism is dysgenic. He probably came out in 1999 because he could see where feminism was heading and knew that soon there wouldn't be any more good genes for him to absorb. If we stop feminism in the past, Lavos would stay buried, feeding on humanity. So what would you rather deal with, feminism or a time-warping parasitic space hedgehog with nuclear quills?

It would have, though. That was what motivated all the early attacks on video games. The Hollywood faggots and corporate government establishment cocksuckers wanted vidya under their control. Maybe if someone back then had suggested to feminists that they join Jack Thompson and make both of them look stupid at the same time, all of this could have been prevented.

feminists are misguided as well, merely a tool of consartists

The thing is, these people are the people who make and play non-OSR tabletop games. They want video game RPGs to be more like modern tabletop RPGs. That is to say, pointless thespianism and story telling.

No, their hearts are as black as their cats and occasional lover-killer.

I've seen these same arguments before from people who were too stupid to cover up the true end goal: the abolition of conflict in all media. At the end of the day, every work of fiction revolves around a conflict. If these people push the idea that fiction shouldn't have conflict long enough, people will believe it.
"But that's a slippery slope! That would never…" You think CNN got people to buy the idea that Russia hacked the US elections because there was truth to it? Repeat a lie long enough, and people WILL believe it. And if you think slippery slope is always a fallacy that never happens, look up Bravely Default's censorship compared to the sequel's. "Okay, but she's just talking about violence, not conflict!" Baby steps. First, they paint violence in games as unintellectual or something it's only okay to enjoy if you're very young (think of how they try to push the idea that finding women sexually attractive is something you're supposed to outgrow by high school. For example, pretty much every review of Dragon's Crown included a line like "I'm not 13 anymore, so I don't like the sorceress."). Next, they'll do the same with arguments using harsh language. Next, comes any conflict between two or more people at all. Finally, even conflicts of man vs nature or man vs himself are considered for morons or something you need to graduate from when you're very young, and when that happens, all media will be SJW approved propaganda.

Don't talk shit about black cats, they are delightful little creatures.

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black and white is the conflict the elite want you to have, it's a result of having a world view simplified to appeal to basic instincts and emotional reasoning

After the last male is murdered. After the last haven of free thought burns. After every iota of the wisdom of humanity is lost forever in the burning libraries - only then will they realize that they cannot eat virtue-signaling. Unable to cook, unable to even do basic agriculture and smithing, they will die screaming curses at the patriarchy.

This is just someone's shitty blogpost as far as I can tell, but the way I see it the difference between that and what a journo makes is a paycheck and established soap-box.

For all sad words of tongue and pen…

Lets look at the complaints
Doesn't say why, but implies they believe it leads to real world violence, specifically colonialism which is an absolutely retarded thing to think in this day and age.

And yet the author doesn't just take their own advice.

It is like he doesn't understand the concept of central characters.

And there it is, he wants to "educate" with games i.e. use them as a tool for manipulation instead of entertainment.

The author's name is (((Meinberg)))

Holla Forums IS RIGHT AGAIN

You know, I could argue that there's some merit to the sentiment expressed in the article if it wasn't clearly trying to pander to a political ideology. If it advocated more for, you know, role playing instead of primarily combat being the means of empowering then I'd be inclined to agree with it.

Maybe you ought to rethink that.

Setting aside the fact that the hero's journey is far from the only narrative archetype for a work of fiction, I see this bullshit pushed right here, too. I've seen a ton of people complain about "plot armor" when the main character is hurt, but not killed, and they bitch that they want games about "real people", like the guard at the palace gate rather than the hero who passes through town. These idiots are completely ignorant of the simple fact that a character doesn't save the world because he's the MC, but rather he's the MC because he's the one that can save the world.

Note, everyone, that this person isn't talking about video games RPGs, but traditional RPGs.
This person has never played a tabletop RPG, or they're playing bad ones. Every single good TRPG allows the user to use and grow from diplomacy. In fact, there is only one response to the article stating exactly this.

It looks like OP here is going out of his way to be upset, as this is clearly a tiny article that has been read by essentially nobody, written by a nobody. You might as well go on GaiaOnline or Reddit and pick out individual posts to get upset at at this point.

Step up to the plate and make Guard Simulator. Stand in one place for 12 hours straight, accuse random passers-by of being thieves. When one finally runs, give chase, only for him to turn on you and unsheathe his ancient sword of apocalyptic power and erase you from existence.

Meinberg is a non-Jewish German name that means "my mountain". You faggots who see "berg" or "burg" and assume Jew are the worst. Not every German word is a Jewish name.

Ah, a fellow enlightened centrist!

Technically, there is only one way to progress in a TRPG, and it is at the GM's discretion.
Still, faggot's obviously never actually played a TRPG if he seriously thinks that fighting is the only path to character progression.

I was getting worried you guys weren't showing up

It should be the only way. Adventures should be one long dungeon, where the DM sends countless demons, goblins, monsters beyond comprehension and foul undead to murder your player's continually, leaving but a slim chance for survival in each encounter. Tabletop RPGs are just single unit wargames with more intricate control, they should stay that way.

This is a designated shitposting thread. FFS, OP's article is about tabletop RPGs, it's not vidya.

TABLE TOP!
WHO THE FUCK IS GOING AFTER TABLE-TOP?

I'm sure (((Meinberg))) is just a normal Aryan and totally not Jewish this time.

It's not like (((they))) didn't help.
I agree to some extant that names alone may not proof Jewishness but Meinburg is a journo and practically anyone who gets money nowadays to disseminate talking points is somehow linked to Zionism or Jewish subterfuge in the West.

What the fuck

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Peaceful savage

You have to realize that Jews took on German words as their surnames because they only used patronyms before that, right?

Wow, that's weird, it's like that's not at all what that post said.

About time you showed up.

I'd say that's pretty much exactly what he's saying.

How does it feel being opposed to horseshoe theory despite it being proven everywhere in reality?

Not as far as I can see. As far as I can see, this Meinberg (which may or may not be a real name here) is a blogger, and this is a pathetically small private blog. There are probably more people reading this article right now from Holla Forums than have read it in the entire past month that it's been up.
That's the issue I see with this. What's the fucking point in going and picking apart a tiny wordpress blog? Looking at his archive, he's been at this for 2 years, and literally not one of his posts has more than a single comment. Why are we even paying attention to this? Is it our job to go and get mad at every single person who has a wrong opinion individually?

Sid Meiers Colonization.

Better than Alpha Centauri in my opinion. You can wipe out the red man, convert them to your religion to get free colonists, trade with them, use them to make your own colonists more skilled, and manipulate them into attacking other European powers. Unfortunately, you do get an endgame score penalty for wiping them out, but who the fuck plays Civ-type games for the score?

If you really can't stand the old graphics and DOS controls, there's an open source version that adds some features and changes the graphics to isometric Civ 2 style, but I feel like it loses some of the charm.

Do you post smug anime girls because you want to be a girl? Do you want people to see you as a girl? Are you cross-dressing yet? What about body hair, are you waxing it or using those laser-based removing machines? Have you lined up a boyfriend yet, or are you going to use those online dating apps to have no-strings-attached gay sex?

I do realize that. You have to realize that means that most Jews from Germany will have German names, but not everybody with a German name is Jewish, right? You do know there are non-Jew Germans, right?

We have this misconception because of the massive amounts of Ashkenazi Jews who integrated into America around World War II. Americans have gotten used to associating German names with Jews, but it's not that way with the entire world. Germany has a very small Jewish population, but most of Germany is composed of people with German names.

The vast majority of extremists on all sides tend toward authoritarianism, with a small minority tending toward anarchism.
Horseshoe theory is a neat idea, but when you think into it, it's not all that profound that authoritarianism looks like authoritarianism, and anarchism looks like anarchism.

it's time to stop.
they dont even know what words mean.
Where is gamergate to put a dent in cocksuckers like this now? Who won that side of the culture war? doesn't look like we did.

Time for you to blow your brains out. You’re obviously a marxist and have no ability to support or prove your ideology on its own merits.

Time for you to blow your brains out. You’re obviously a nazi and have no ability to support or prove your ideology on its own merits.
:^)

>>>Holla Forums
leftists aren't welcome anywhere outside of that board. now you know. go away.

I indirectly derailed the thread with my extremists post it seems.

These "people" need to be murdered and all of their existence to get damnatio memoriae.

the problem with making the blanket statement like user did is that it can be easily reversed to make an opposite statement. what user should have done is elaborate more so it's harder to alter and make confirmation bias for the fence sitting centrists.

Their hobby is to ruin other people's fun, didn't you get that yet?

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Horseshoe theory is bullshit (or rather, doesn't apply anywhere near as broadly as people think it does). It would be true in a society which symmetrically discouraged left-extremism and right-extremism, because then both groups of extremists would share personality traits like a willingness to defy convention. In contemporary western society, where right-extremism is condemned or criminalized and left-extremism is encouraged, that doesn't happen. Right-extremists are people either too dumb/autistic to understand the taboo or too strongly committed to their beliefs to obey it, while left-extremists are looking for a socially acceptable excuse to punch people and break shit.
Horseshoe theory arguably applies when comparing left-wing groups like TERFs that are considered heretical by current left-wing authorities with the right, but does not apply in general.

Don't you know? Tabletops make you mad. In fact your proving our point your mad right now.

PC culture was pushed by the religious right because they didn't want people being mean and it went against God or something.

Now, the left has taken over PC culture. God has been replaced with Diversity and Multiculturalism.

Now communists and nazis are rioting in our streets. We weren't supposed to do WW 2.

They have been doing it for a while now. DnD 5th ed has SJW garbage in it. SJWs have been getting upset with 40k for not having female space marines. Most non-mainstream games have embraced SJW ideals with open hands. its happening, and its only going to get worse

What is SJW in 5e? Come to think of it, I've never gone through the book, since my group just collected the play rules through wikis and such.

Holla Forums is always right.

There is no such thing as a moderate position as you are slave to the whims of the other positions.
Cute pic though.

take your shit meme and get out.

he isn't wrong though

I can just not vote :^)

that's called abstaining user

This is nonsense. The right has certainly had its own taboos and attacks on free expression, but the specific term "politically correct" originated within the left.

yeah bullshit, it started out when they called rock and roll the devil's music and banned their kids from listening to it in fear that it would make their kids violent.

u take my video game violence I take ur life
RECOLONOSIZE THE WORLD FUCK NATIVES RULE BRITANNIA

There is nothing wrong with being self-made or self-reliant.

Most D&D parties are not ideologically unified. They typically contain characters who clash in their moral beliefs.

The author claims (without justification) that this is a problem, then offers no solution. What are these "tools" that a GM is supposed to give to his NPCs?

The author does not know what "colonize" means. Slaughtering and looting is not colonization. RPG parties (generally) don't try to settle in the dungeons they raid.

The tension between group success and individual success is already a big part of RPGs, and most of them are geared toward encouraging group success. Some games have the whole party level up whenever they reach a major goal. Most games have skills or classes specifically geared toward supporting the rest of the party.

Indeed. It appears students are taught to envision a nebulous concept of ==evil== and call it "colonization".

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Name a single area that was objectively better off before colonialism.

Tip: You can't.

Nice meme fellow altrighter.

It hurts, doesn't it?

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Sounds really relevant.

It hurts my ears yes

It's called Puritianism. Puritians were the SJWs of their time.

Also, Republicans and National Holy Rollers aren't Right.

It's completely accurate, though.
When the fuck have centrists ever gotten anything done?
There were no radical centrist revolutions, no centrist party ever got elected to a nation's failing government and 180'd it into a successful nation.

These people are too weak to live.

Where do you think the Ashkenazis learned it from? Why do you think the English, French, Polish, Russian, Slovakian, Swiss, and every single European people worth a fucking damn hated the Germans with such a burning malice?

Who trys to push their ideological and economical manipulation onto other European people? Germans. Who has pushed a ethnic superiority complex for the last 500 years? Germans. Who is constantly trying to shove their way into the affairs of other sovereign nations? Germans. Who is constantly trying to dictate borders and how they should be used? Germans. Who has been responsible for the majority of European wars? Germans. Who is constantly trying to police foreign policy? Germans

Every single fucking thing that has fucked over Europe for the last 200 years has had a fucking German behind it. The German is the real jew, wipe out the German and you will find that the Jewish problem fixes itself.

Do you mean FreeCol? For some reason I feel like the interface and controls are worse than the original. It really doesn't feel the same. I can't remember if the Civ IV version of Colonization was bad.

fuck off, Holla Forums. Your hugbox causes the same type of delusion and anti-free speech values same as the libtard left.

Wait until they discover action games.

Fuck off Holla Forums.

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Whenever I DM D&D games, I try to encourage my players to find solutions that don't involve direct combat. If every situation in a tabletop RPG is a railroad to combat, you're doing RPGs wrong. It seems like the author can't into imagination.

Once again leftists prove that the gas chamber is the only answer they'll accept.

Why wouldn't they? Jack Thompson was a registered Democrat and only shut up about games when he became Born Again.

jews can be german but not all germans are jews

That's the kikiest load of shit I've seen in a while. White guilt doesn't work anymore, nice try creating consensus for the entirety of Europe via your mass projection, skinwalker.

Were you typing this drivel with your nose?

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there's that fucking word again
how is it these people can put together such eloquent wordplay (at least high school level. Good for them) and still not know that colonization requires attempts at founding colonies and establishing governance? There's a bunch of other really good terms for what they think they're describing

oh wait, these are the same people that attribute the word rape to any crime that doesn't involve rape

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What does "colonized" fucking mean? Do the mean "when white people are non-kosher and defend their interests"? What the fuck are they doing to the English language? This shit is straight out of 1984.

Yes, that's also what "fascism" and "white supremacy" mean. "Hate crimes" and "violence" also means telling (((Meinberg))) she's a stupid bitch on twitter. And "Germans" means Jews, as explains.

I've noted a trend with the left. They all seem to use the same playbook, almost like someone tells them what words and language to use. Shit like "problematic", "toxic", "Nazi", "bigot", and now "colonized". Time after time they attempt to make these shitty memes propagate and they always fail. Guess they still haven't figured out you need to go full Big Brother to fuck with people's minds to that degree. Won't take them all that much longer to realize this.

Something about how when white people travel somewhere they de facto steal, rape, pillage, and remove culture from the locals.
I mean, yeah, it was sometimes true–we were better at it than the other races. But it's not part and parcel to founding a colony

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What game are you talking about?

It means this.

It's like they're willingly ignoring the vast amounts of new interesting adventure games getting released. I checked the new releases on Adventuregamers and it really got me interested in some.

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Only because you don't understand your own culture.

Endless Legend as the Cult, you spend your time converting heathen villages.

To the OP, does it sound like the feminists are retreating? At least on rpgs? Expect more walking simulators.

why worry? if they mean it literally then there will be more violence like in the real life counterpart

Cite one example. Inb4 Hollywood tier understanding of reality.

I'm 23 actually :^)

< Hi, I'm a hipster faggot who just played Undertale and wanted to write about it in a roundabout way that I can take credit for.
< This article.

Gay.

Feel held back, I guess?

I think "decolonize" is a metaphor for everything going to absolute shit after the people keeping it all together are driven out.

If the leftists want to know who's "normalizing" violence, they should look in the mirror.

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Great. Now I'm sure the next "masterpeice 10/10 -IGN" indie game is going to be a walking simulator with stats so it gets to pretend to be an RPG.

Anyone want to get ahead of the curve and try and figure out what it would be like?

My people: a story of freedom
"Shenquanious Hannibal of Carthage is a proud gender fluid woman of color with a huge afro, she is also totally nonviolent. She is enslaved by demonic whites and must free her fellow innocent nonviolent POCs and lead them to the underground railroad, which is mysteriously only ran by POCs. You get to set her stats in the beginning: strength is how much stuff you can hold and what you can push, dexterity is how nimble you are and how fast you can run, constitution is how much verbal abuse you can take before having to sit down and cry, wisdom is how quickly you can cut down whitey with your amazing wit, intelligence is how much knowledge you have, charisma is how stirring your speeches are to your fellow slaves and how good you can lie to YT. While all the other stats start out at 10 and you use points to set raise or lower them, with intelligence or wisdom, you pick one to be 20 and the other to be 18, they cannot be subtracted below 18.

I think we should try colonizing Africa again, I mean they keep whining about it but they are clearly just tsundere.

Stop, you bastard. I just saw a documentary where they cast Arabs as Carthaginians and it's still raw.

Okay, continue.

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I wonder (((who))) is behind this post.

WE

The German consistently tries to destroy Europe every 20-50 years and has for centuries

The German can't be the real Kike because they're too autistic

Still belong in the same oven though

Has anything good ever come out of Germany?

Besides Martin Luther.

I wonder who is behind this post as well.

And this post as well.

It's as if kikes and leftypol at are full force again.

most people think you're both cancerous retards.
authoritarian socialism is wrong no matter what version you believe in.

if you are not a libertarian or paleo-conservative, might as well kill yourself.

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Nah, leftypol is full of liberals like you cunt. And Germany isnt only muh "natzees" you fucking retard. Go rub your hands for the last time and kill yourself you smelly kike.

no
scroll to 4 minutes in, watch the shit about Wagner
then go back and watch the whole thing

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So wrong it hurts. Puritans were trying to keep the SJW away from society. You know, the people that advocate for casual sex, abortion, women's rights, fags, trannys, dykes, immigration?

Look at the way he posts user. It's a fucking kike shill. Fuck them all.

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Reminder paganism had no concept of marraige or personal property and it's a old (((bolshevik))) ploy to find a temporary and shitty replacement for religion on the way to (((atheism))) because after 50 fucking years they learned they need to take steps towards removing religion instead of coming in with guns and
If you're unironically a pagan instead of i dunno, just pretending to be retarded on fantasy LARPs you really need to drink bleach and remove yourself from the gene pool immediately.

Wtf, i want white genocide now?

Not quite, it's a hybrid of Kafkaeqsue trial and VII ComInt World Congress
it's neither a label, nor an insult, it's a death sentence in a single word where you don't get a lawyer or any appeal
post a picture of a man and say he's a fascist, antifa will dox him and burn his house the same week.
In soviet Russia "Kulak" or "Trotskyist" were also popular along "fascist"

Pick one you retarded LARPing NEETSoc piece of shit.

Liberals (leftists) aka "Progressives" vs Conservatives (right)

The extreme fringe left is Commies.
The extreme fringe right is Nazis, even though economically Nazi Germany was leftist.

You snooze, you lose. The abolition of slavery was almost as bad an idea as giving women the right to vote.

Nah, because the economic system in Germany at that time was working for the betterment of people.

Not even, kike. Go back to leftypol and try how much you wanna suck Karls cut dick. You fucking liberal.

I know but I still felt the need to reply.

no bro, well just breed the Marxism out of them, well even solve the hunger crisis that way!

Also.

Nice vague buzzword, dumb ass. Commies claim to be "for the betterment of the people" too.

America beat commies and nazis once, we'll beat 'em again.

If you are against these things, kill yourself you western-civilization undermining LARPing neetsoc idiot.

Follow your leader and put a bullet in your head.

archive.is/exvPj

And then you die of starvation.

Is pic related what victory is supposed to look like?

Yes, because ebil fascist and nazis were beaten, btw. preorder nu wolfenstein where you team up with a zany, wacky and hip team to defeat nazis in america and restore the american spirit thanks to characters such as

I mean, they're both shit, but saying that they're anything close to the same is just ridiculous.

I saw that special too.Thats why i picked the name. Carthage was in North Africa, so niggers say they have to have been black. Once you step foot on Africa, you transform into niggers obviously. They do the same thing with Egyptians and berbers.

It's especially funny because Carthage was more than likely semetic.

eurogenes.blogspot.com/2017/09/ancient-genomes-from-neolithic-north.html

North Africans are more or less the same as their Neolithic ancestors (who were migrants from West Asia). They also have mixing from Ancient Iberians way before the Greeks, Romans, etc. showed.>>13486278

Yeah, FreeCol.

After two years of inactivity, it actually just started getting nightly releases again.

You know who you are.

And they called those things obscene, or Satanic if they were feeling particularly melodramatic, not "politically incorrect". It's a different set of ideas.

I can't find a listed political affiliation for him, but Jack Thompson became a Christian in 1976. It's doubtful that he was screeching at vidya before then.

This meme is fucking retarded. Right Wing Christian Nutjobs absolutely were persecuting videogames in the 90's. It's just that they usually applied social pressure to stir up concerned parents to police their children and lead boycotts of video games (and other forms of media). Once a moral panic was in full swing, the leftists moved to capitalize on the issue with political grandstanding.

It only highlights the modus operandi of leftists and rightwingers. The right will apply community pressure to try to bully you into behaving according to their morals. The left prefers to simply legislate morality.

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But the left does both of these things you cocksucker.

I'm sure you sure say Dubya Bush is a Right Wing too.

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