The white working class will never develop class consciousness

It boggles my mind that even /r9k/ NEETs voted for Trump. Trump is going to get rid of their NEETbux, Their autismbux. Black Americans are here to stay. Latino Americans are going to continue to swell in numbers even if Trump builds the wall and deports the illegal immigrants. Roasties are not going to have sex with robots even under a Trump presidency. So what's the fucking point in voting for Trump if you are a NEET incel robot? They are so fucking reactionary when it comes to their racist and woman hater views that they don't even have the capability to think rationally.

I hate Chads and roasties like any other robot. But socialism and even social democracy means higher wages. Meanwhile Trump says that wages are too high and he doesn't want to raise the $7.25/hr minimum wage. Social democracy could also lead to something like a Universal Basic Income. You can't make a roastie prefer beta males to Chad and you can't make them have sex with you. The next best thing for a robot is to vote social democrat or do socialist revolution if possible, get a good paying job or collect a basic income cheque and scrape together enough money out of your day to day spending to see a whore at the end of the month or something.

sage all defeatist threads

Eh, i don't feel like it, what's the point.

read Lenin you shithead

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The point is we've been overrun with these defeatist threads lately. And that OP is a faggot because the US election was not a choice between social democracy and the far-right, so his opinion isn't relevant in any shape, form or way. The dems themselves made sure that social democracy wouldn't even be on the table.

meant for

You didn't watch the town halls where Bernie literally converted Trump supporters.

It's a bit more complex than that.
I could actually go slightly more in depth as i'm familiar with the mental process at play here but this thread will be bumplocked soon.

Perhaps someone could make a dedicated thread about this and we could discuss it.
I actually made a thread a week ago or so that ended up talking exactly about NEET/shut ins and why they develop specific political tendencies.
It's a good subject to talk about, i don't know why Holla Forums is so scared to approach it, it seems to trigger a lot of violent emotions around here.

Robots and cyborgs hate normies, and justifiably so. This is why they often support policies that will hurt them - because those policies also hurt normies. Normie hate is the primary consideration in their decision making process. They should put their own interests first, but their hate has blinded them because they see no hope for themselves.

This is now a normalfag hate thread.

I can't help but be defeatist user. I have tried to convert my people to socialism or at least social democracy. And it just doesn't work. Even though socialism and even social democracy makes far more logical sense to a NEET incel robot than corporatist far-right populism

cause it didn't happen and bernie lost lol

People around here defend republican voters like crazy for some reason, you can shit over liberals all you like though.

but normies aren't neets usually you fucking autist

maybe you're just bad at converting?

The main reason robots lives are shit is not because of low wages.
It's because of nonwhites and feminism ruining society.

Look at Elliot Rodger, he was rich as fuck yet he hated himself enough to want to kill himself and take out people with him.
This boring ass world where everyone is forced to hear about blacks all day and see a bunch of disgusting tattooed sluts won't change under social democracy. Nordic posters have the same ills.

Probably just contrarianism user. Remember that image that said in 4 years 4chan will be leftist? The sour experience of the Obama years has understandably made many people turn conservative but it shouldn't be too long until even casual Trumpfags start throwing their hats away. He's fucking shit up so rapidly.

Because liberals are often class enemies who spread delusions and infiltrate our movements and subvert them. Conservatives are less likely to do that because they see us and the liberals as essentially the same thing. There are proles we want to convert in both camps, shitting on one group of proles one one side of the fake bourgeois democratic system disproportionately does nothing. We want to separate ourselves from liberals and not tail them. We're already anti-conservative in the essential sense of the word.

If you had read his manifest (lmao) you would know that he hated himself because he was a weak, shallow, vapid Cali cunt and he knew that about himself.

I've made my case to my people very logically. It's not my problem that full-blown reactionaries (as opposed to semi-reactionaries like myself) don't do logic.

Yes I am a sexually frustrated young man. But far-right populists are not going to change that. At least with a $20US/hr 20 hour/week job or failing that a UBI I could scrape together some money at the end of the month to see a whore. You can't make roasties like you if you are an autistic homeboy. You can't make them have sex with you. Some of them will fuck and suck you if you pay them.

I'm a NEET and I have a gf user never say never.

Pure ideology.

They know that Alex Jones is wrong, socialism doesn't mean free stuff, it means that the hotpockets that exiled them into the murkiest depths of the internet will be running their countries. A NEET incel robot voting for dildocracy because of a welfare raise is like a socialist voting for Trump because he opposes NAFTA.

I'm gonna make a thread about this tomorrow, i want to explore it in more depth.

Under socialism, they wouldn't have to work as much and they would make a lot more money per hour.

If a NEET doesn't want to work AT ALL, then become a social democrat. lol.

Personally I wouldn't mind working part-time under a socialist economy. I work for peanuts doing gig work right now basically. So working 20 hours/week for way more money wouldn't be too much of a stretch for me.

How?

I had a gf while NEET too. But she was fucking insane and eventually left me. Good quality women want nothing to do with an autistic homebody who lives in poverty. Poor women are hypergamous. They want a man to take care of her. Or they want to get dicked down by a super hot Chad/Tyrone. And women with money want to date men at least on their level economically.

All the unemployed people starve to death.

Under national s.ocialism, they would have the biggest adventure of their lives and then return to a quaint village of comradeship and loving families, with a qt aryan waifu waiting for them.

You have adopted an ideology that renders imagination irrelevant, as if we're a species of bookkeepers that just doesn't know so yet.

National S.ocialism = wage cuckoldry. Yet you are the ones running around calling people cucks. lol.

I think it's this tbh

When i look up all the robots that go on their high score sprees or kill themselves, the vast majority of them live very comfortable middle class or outright rich lives in the case of the Supreme Gentleman and his fucking luxury car.

They want a solution to social ills and what happened to incels like Goering. It just happens the right is providing something they find appealing and they are starting to realise that living in a first world country is already quite comfy economically, they just mostly want answers for their social woes now.

Oh, and of course, Trump himself promised more jobs and other economic issues of focus unlike Hillary so it obvious he's win and they'd side with him. Currently, he's doing pretty well. He got rid of TPP and made piracy either to the economically challenged. A bunch of companies are bringing back domestic jobs as well and DOW is up to 20k. He's even going after the big pharmaceuticals and freeing up jobs that were taken by H1Bs and other immigrants.

In short, it's obvious why they'd vote for him and you need to stop being so stupid. After all, if the white working class never develops class consciousness, what the fuck does that make us all here?

My gf is poor too user but she seems to understand that I'm trying to get a job. I did finally manage to score something so in the short-term at least the NEET life is coming to the end for me. Maybe you can improve your sex game? You don't have to be super hot to give a bitch a good dicking–but if your lacking in certain areas that can be a problem.

Bitchy poor girls who hate other women seem to be where its at cause they don't have slutty friends trying to convince them to cheat. Idk I might've just lucked out but I honestly believe that if your tired of being fucked over in the whole dating game thing there's probably another person out there whose tired of being fucked over too.

That's the point. Despite having so much capital most people can only dream about his social ills were not solved as Marx predicted.

Elliot Rodger wasn't actually rich. That is a myth. This is why he fantasized about winning the Powerball Lottery and played the lottery a ton. People just assume that Elliot Rodger was wealthy because his father worked on the Hunger Games. But he wasn't the main director or anything. And he lost a lot of money on a past movie of his "Oh My God!" or whatever it's called.

It's not about that you autist, it's about purposeless, have you never heard of existentialism?

America in general is a problem, not whites.

Robots lives are shit because they're autistic losers whose behavior is enabled by the state, internet and coddling parents. You're a dumb cunt. Why do Holla Forumstards dump ALL their ills on non-whites? Is it a fetish?

you seem upset

This attitude is part of the reason why left-wing robots like myself are a rare species. Even socialists look down on us. But I don't give any fucks about making friends. My primary concern is "what's in it for me?" And socialism and social democracy both make more sense to a robot like myself than far-right corporatist populism does. Thing is humans are largely social animals and don't have that cold calculating autistic mentality that I have. So they would rather join the far-right where they feel like they fit in. Than go with their self-interests.

I can't speak for all robots but I can provide my point of view on life as an autistic robot who hasn't had a gf and sex in nearly 10 months. lol.

I get very little joy out of life. My dopamine receptors must be shot or something. I used to enjoy vidya. I can't stand vidya anymore. I used to enjoy anime. I can't stand it anymore. I've watched pretty much everything I want to watch on Netflix. Even fast food and junk food doesn't taste as good as it used to to me anymore. I find myself in bed for 10-11 hours per day on a regular basis. As an autist, socializing isn't rewarding for me like it is for normies. It's like our reward centre is shot. My ex-girlfriends were normalfags who wanted to go out and what not. And I didn't care for that lifestyle. I tried going out with friends and don't really enjoy it. I forced myself to go out with friends for over a year straight. It's like my brain is broken.

When you feel little joy in life to begin with, you feel no motivation to get a job, get a girlfriend, socialize with friends or anything like that. It's a struggle every time I wake up to find the motivation to get out of bed. Sex and cuddling is enjoyable (overrated but it provides me with some temporary enjoyment) but my autistic reclusiveness is so repulsive to women that I can't hold down a relationship.

Would socialism or socdem gibs me dats make my life better? I wouldn't have to worry about my basic needs anymore. And even take care of some of my wants (ie. I could scrape together money to see a whore at the end of the month). But life would still be largely empty.

That all said, I don't see how voting for Trump or whatever right-wing populist windbag is going to solve the existential malaise (or whatever you want to call it) that I feel. At least with socialists and socdems, I wouldn't have to worry about basic needs. And just go about my life. Anhedonia sucks. Depression sucks. But being poor makes depression worse.

it's literally just a way of lashing out at normies, combined with a hope that a more reactionary government will somehow put women and minorities in their place so that white incels can attain their proper place in the imagined natural hierarchy, along with a gf obviously.

If white incels wants to feel powerful, they should go see a non-white whore. I'm serious. There was this Mexican girl on backpage who mentions in her ad that she only goes bareback (sex without condom) with white men. I texted her asking her if she can do a raceplay. Like me calling her a beaner slut, shouting "Make Canada Great Again" while she's deepthroating my white cock and said that I'm not a racist, I just have a fetish. And she said "yeah that sounds like fun baby." And then I came from jerking off and didn't go see her because I already got my rocks off anyway. lol.

I saw a CBC hooker once (Canadian-born Chinese). And she let me face-fuck her. You feel like you're a colonial settler man. It's great.

that is disgusting
most robots want an anime adventure.

I thought I wanted an anime adventure with a girl too. Until I actually had a girlfriend. I'm a homebody. Girlfriends always want you to take them places. Like a bar, a museum, a concert, karaoke, shit like that. The only thing I like about the bar is the food. I can buy alcohol at the LCBO and I don't care for the socialization. I can listen to music at home. I don't care for museums. And I only enjoy karaoke when I'm doing it. I don't like watching other people do karaoke. Autistic people are very one-way like that.

Women are literally only good for their three holes. I don't like socializing with them (I don't like socializing with people much anyway. My socializing is mostly one-way. Dat autism. That's probably why I post on image boards). Cuddling is nice but women are bitches who will eventually stab you in the back so they don't genuinely love you.

So yeah, I am definitely an /r9k/ type of guy. I hold very reactionary beliefs when it comes to gender. Except I'm red-pilled when it comes to economics too while most of /r9k/ supports far-right corporatist populism.