Elysium is a comfy private WoW server that boasts an active population and well scripted end-game content. We have recently begun setting up an end game raiding guild and need more people to fill out our ranks. Don't worry about what class you are playing and if its needed, you should play whatever is going to be the most fun for you. We aim to begin raiding by the middle of October, so if you want to play you have about a month and a half to get to 60 and get some Pre-BiS gear.
How to Play: 1) Download the version of the game for your OS. 2) Edit the content of the file "realmlist.wtf" to "set realmlist logon.elysium-project.org"(without the quotes). 3) Make an account at: elysium-project.org/play 4) Login to the game using the account you created in Step 3. 5) Choose Horde on the Elysium server. 6) Post your character name in this thread or use /who g-"Iron Guard" and whisper anyone online in the guild.
High Demand Classes: Warrior Shaman Warlock Priest
no fun allowed. This 8ch guild is going to actually be successful, unlike the abortion that has become
Elijah Phillips
Gotta love these reject /vg/uilds.
Grayson Jones
Dorf fort was the best guild.
Eli Brown
Forgot to sage.
Michael Mitchell
You misread. Denial of holocaust denial is a bannable offense.
Jordan Barnes
I WANT /vg/ GUILDS FROM CUCK-CHAN TO FUCK OFF
Adrian Lee
ok lol
Tyler Parker
I want (1) to fuck off.
Christian Brooks
8/v/ already has a guild you nigger, go recruit goons
Christopher Cruz
(1) (1) (1) (1)
I don't know why you guys have to show up to every Vanilla WoW thread and shit on it. Some people enjoy playing the game on Elysium and have the time to do so. If you don't enjoy the game then just ignore the thread.
Jackson Powell
Maybe these threads turn to shit so fast because was simply too good.
Sebastian Brown
Are they for real? Did the graphical overhauls really force hardcore wow players to upgrade their PCs in order to play the same game?
Ethan Murphy
fell for this meme when zeth'kur came around, wont again
Jacob Martinez
yep, but we're playing vanilla wow which you can run on a toaster
Matthew Gonzalez
can confirm, runs ok (45-50fps) on high settings boy, playing this alongside Warframe: Gotta Jew Fast is going to be a frustrating experience. No wonder I never made it to lvl 50
Luis Ramirez
convince me to play it i had an old paladin there, maybe around lv 10-20 but the grind is just so boring and i've done all the leveling before so many times, the quests feel bland how do you not make this feel like a huge waste of time
Joshua Reed
You play a class that requires almost no input to kill things (priest, for example, until shadowform you wand it until it dies) and do other things in the background like watch videos or listen to podcasts. Having two or more monitors helps in this but if you have just one monitor you can have a program like OnTopReplica display whatever you want to watch over part of your screen while you play.
Otherwise, you could play something like shaman. While not as "afk" as paladin or priest, the metric fuckton of spells you get to play with makes it an interesting class to experiment with while leveling.
Caleb Myers
Every Holla Forums guild has an extreme overdistribution of warriors in the class makeup, what's going on here?
I don't even mind Warrior gameplay, it's just that leveling takes so much time and is also active as a warrior so I can't just alt-tab while grinding, and my classes don't really permit wasting several hours each day exclusively on grinding. Fond memories of my level 60 rogue on Nost, though, so maybe I'll give it a try and see if I can't strike up a slow but manageable pace.
Carson Sanchez
Ever since Wrath the game became an unoptimized piece of shit with e-celebs shilling the latest pro graphix card at every opportunity by complete coincidence I'm sure.
Blake Taylor
What is denial of holocaust denial? Do you get banned if you don't believe holocaust deniers exist?
Grayson Gonzalez
Hey look it's another fucking vanilla wow server which will die in 6 months!
William Thompson
well that killed any enthusiasm i had
Robert Howard
Your autist/pervert/attention whore filled wow guilds will never be successful. Deal with it.
Kayden Ramirez
I'm pretty sure it actually used to work right when the server first came out and the only reason I can think of for changing it would be to cater to assblasted faggots who can't PVP right. These servers are notorious for catering to a small number of high end players who donate hundreds of dollars per month anyway.
William Collins
Really gets the brain working
Elijah Wood
What the shit I've seen like servers of 100 people who were better than this. Did you go out of your way to find a shitty server to have a discord circle jerk at?
Jacob Perez
Every warrior wants a healfriend. Orbs from strat are a reliable source of income for prot specced warriors.
Aiden Perry
You're right, I was being a bitter cunt Good luck, however I'm pretty sure you're going to have to invite normalfags if you actually want to raid. Be prepared for that.
I remember the mob respawn rates seeming much too high last time I dicked around on elysium, like they were still tuned for launch conditions months after the fact.
Leo Reed
Gotta keep those chink bots satisfied.
Jaxon Rodriguez
also, what's this shit infront of stormwind? some kind of event?
Bentley Peterson
oh nevermind, i didn't realize we were being invaded
Liam King
Oh cool, I already have a character. Name's Krepp.
Jayden Mitchell
Maybe this one will be permanent. Probably not. Invite Zagash, the undead warlock.
Josiah Anderson
wait is this elysium?
Isaiah Young
Can't wait for this guild/server to die in 2 months like every other one has.
Anthony Martinez
It's cuckchan, doesn't play video games anymore and had a bigger sperg than rtas and his ring.
Adrian Hughes
even worse
Charles Rogers
Looks like Naxxramas invasion event so it has to be Anathema.
Fury warriors are quite hard to recruit apparently and they're really good so it pays off to stack warriors.
Sebastian Johnson
You are a 4cuck reject guild, that`s all I need to know to shit on you
Jason Sanchez
Why, you feeling bullied? Good. Do us all a favor and drag your cancerous carcass back to /vg/.
William Wilson
are you playing bizzaro WoW?
Colton Lewis
Fuck off forever.
Dominic Young
Fury warriors are extremely hard to come by at the higher levels. It is quite odd.
Ian Smith
WoW was never good. It's a fucking casual game for fucking casuals.
Carson Harris
isn't this the server where the gm team was caught selling gold to players and giving legendaries out to their guilds?
Brayden Collins
fury warriors that are dedicated enough to gear up properly are hard to come by. Level 60 shit tier faggots dressed in leveling greens who can't even be bothered to buy devilsaur are a dime a dozen
Eli Allen
kek Too bad you fags can never stick to one server, Nost was fun while it lasted.
Adam Green
This and Nostalrius both, yes.
Christopher Collins
gms on elysium are suspected gold sellers server seems down again
Lucas Allen
rope yourself kikes. try getting people into a buggy over 10 year old game that isn't even as good as it was while you ban people for not being kosher.
Brody Diaz
forgot my image.
Mason Kelly
Is this bait or are you illiterate?
Hudson Cook
Is this bait or are you illiterate?
Cameron Adams
I'M A NIGGER AND I CAN'T READ
Nathan Myers
Try reading that again, bud.
Dylan Sullivan
>no fun allowed. This 8ch guild is going to actually be successful, unlike the abortion that has become
Every week, like clockwork.
Grayson Rodriguez
Private server community is long dead.
Adrian Long
Yea no
Lincoln Mitchell
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Jaxon Anderson
I can't imagine what you need to pull to get laughed off /vg/ or why he keeps trying to weaponize the local faggotry but by god one can depend on trannyus and his inbred cousins to keep trying.
Adrian Kelly
goddamn the entire /wowpsg/ thread is shit as is you are a group of faggots that deserve each other
Gavin Barnes
It's /wpsg/ and short of trannyfags and certain rulecucks no one deserves that.
Zachary Butler
Guess again.
Luis Bennett
Chink gold farmers and bots are proof of community not being dead?
Jacob Hall
Then don't play faggot. We are having fun though.
Cooper Turner
I hate people who use that word because they typically act like niggers and want to bring everyone around them down to their shit tier level.
Charles Fisher
It's Freech terminology so of course anyone that uses it acts like a nigger.
Chase Martinez
No thanks.
Thomas Ross
Blizzard is keeping people like this in charge of the private server black market. They should have partnered with cripple kid who made Felmyst and shut the Chinks, huehues, and slavic gold bots/sellers down. Not that I play wow, just an observant thought. Are you satisfied blizzshit? Meh doesn't matter, half the workers are probably foreigners and privileged womyn.
Carter Ross
why is the cripple kid who made Felmyst any better than the others you mentioned?
Jordan Torres
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Joseph Robinson
I thought I was only lvl 32. Either way not logged in a year.
Samuel Rivera
When did this game and its Lore jump the shark?
Benjamin King
Somewhere between Warcraft 3 and Burning Crusade, depending on your tolerance of bullshit.
Gavin Butler
It started becoming retarded near the end of BC, but it didn't go full retard until WotLK. WotLK was when the story stopped being about your character and the effects your character had on the world and instead became about the lore characters. You, the player, became sidestepped and were just a narrative tool to get big lore names into their proper position so the big lore names could move the story on. The dragon gate event being about Bolvar, trial of the crusader being about Fordring, icecrown citadel being about Bolvar and Fordring. It just got worse as time went on. The event where you go attack Undercity with Varian and his gang being one of the worst examples.
Now, you may think that the game not being about your character and being about the big lore characters has nothing to do about WoW's lore going to shit, but you have to realize that it's when they started fucking over the lore to "keep things interesting" and to "keep the players engaged". Shows how incompetent Blizzard has become at story telling. Let's keep the players engaged by making the player irrelevant to the story! That'll make things super interesting and make players invested in their characters.
You were asking for it, shitlord. Conduct yourself as a mature adult would out in the real world. Nobody wants to deal with a brooding manchild like you.
Leo Thompson
Your proof that Elysium's shit is you acting like a retard and getting muted?
Christopher Gomez
Sorry sir, this is a CHRISTIAN SERVER, so no swearing.
Ian Collins
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Cooper Jenkins
But moooooom, they're acting like douchebags too! Why shouldn't I act like a douchebag then?
Nathaniel Rivera
Invite craby to the guild also bump
Matthew Martin
Has literally nothing to do with this.Admins on private servers feel the need to assert what little "authority" they will ever possess. You sound like an old humorless cunt.
Asher Cruz
Since your reading comprehension is horrible, what I'm saying is that even though the admins on Elysium are corrupt and incompetent as fuck, it doesn't mean that you should act like a 12 year old kid because they act like 12 year old kids. Act like a man instead of an immature little bitch. Or better yet, be a man.
Ryder Jenkins
Not sure how I was supposed to glean that from your inarticulate shitposting, but, ok. Like you even know what that means.You're getting salty because you can't handle jokes.You seem like the immature one here.
Dominic Cook
>>>/4chan/
Ian Torres
Don't act like a cunt out of spite. Was that clearer?
Robert Lopez
So from a scale of 1-Everquest, how many fucking retarded roleplayers are in this?
Luis Diaz
Practically zero. Private servers are swamped with tryhards and minmaxers.
Juan Green
Pray tell how one does achieves this within the context of a private wow server.Tell me your secrets
Landon Cook
The same way you do anywhere: don't scream your lungs out when shit doesn't go your way, don't be petty, don't try to play mind games, act with civility towards strangers, know when to hold your ground and when to back down, don't let people walk over you, etc, etc.
Jose Parker
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Kevin Reyes
Getting along with people to play a Massively Multiplayer Online RPG requires you to not act like a turd 100% of the time. Treat others how you would want to be treated and you should be fine.
Benjamin Russell
What if I want someone to call me a retarded nigger when I do something incredibly stupid and wipe a raid?
Zachary Evans
Act like a nigger and people are going to treat you like one.
Ryan James
I really, REALLY like to play a warrior. I don't care about leveling time, I already leveled twice to 60 with 1x exp, yet I don't believe it will suit me to replay vanilla with one. Everyone expects me to be a tank (I can tank dungeons yeah, but I want to be a pure dps in raids). Then people will tell me Well why didn't you pick a rogue, then? So I have to ask, what are the benefits of fury warriors? Even if I am decked on full dps set, I'll be told to off tank. If I am going to replay vanilla, I am going with a rogue, unless there are some benefits to fury warriors that I don't understand.
Ryder Sanders
You already pointed out the benefit of fury warriors in vanilla raiding: they can off-tank. There's plenty of bosses and trash pulls where having more than 2 tanks makes life way easier; having players in the raid who can help tank for when those times happen by swapping gear are crucial for a raid, especially static guild groups. Good fury warriors will also help keep up Demo to the tank can generate more threat, give Battle Shout to one of the melee groups and do excellent cleave-type DPS.
If you want a more meta answer, then fury warriors help spread loot around. A guild will only get so much loot per week, so minimizing the amount of wasted drops results in better raid performance in the short and medium term. In other words: plate DPS pieces and STR jewelry going to your tanks doesn't help the raid, neither does having tank gear rotting.
Andrew Diaz
good goyim
Connor Long
Also they're great DPS in raids. Eventually they will just flat out beat rogues.
Julian Nguyen
Please give me more if you can, I am trying to justify my suffering of being asked to offtank. I also want to pvp and pve, so I am kinda getting screwed since I need pve talents for pure dps, pve talents for dps offtanking and pvp talents in Arms (unless Fury is great with high end gear that it beats Arms)
I find it hard to believe, can you back it up? Weren't the rogues in the world first KT kill topping the meters waay ahead of the warrior who was behind a lock, mages and rogues?
Parker Cruz
I get plate dps set yes, but what about me competing with rogues for 1handers as fury? Also, when can I roll for 2handers as offspec pvp for Arms? As far as I know, 2handers are not that great compared to 1hander fury, and enh shamans are the only class that might be interested in 2handers.
Anthony Reyes
Another question that I want to add, are other specs totally garbage as many people claim? I sometimes hear about how viable some are, like ret pallies and enh shaman. Can someone confirm? Is there a chance that some specs actually got underastimated and its potential wasn't discovered? Sage because of multiple posts.
Mason Bennett
Loot depends on the guild. 1H axes should go to Warriors while the rest should go to Rogues and Hunters, at least ideally. 2H weapons are never really an issue since there's not much competition for drops outside of Warriors. Unless your raid brings Ret Paladins, but that's your fault for raiding with retards.
Offspecs are garbage. At best you'd want a single Feral Druid to off-tank and MAYBE a Shadow Priest. Enh Shamans, Ret Paladins and Moonkins are all garbage tier and should be laughed out of any semi-serious vanilla raid.
Hunter Hill
Maybe it's more of a horde thing because fury warriors benefit more from wf totem. I actually don't know much about naxx meta. The only log I saw from retail naxx was some patchwerk log with just warlocks shitting on everyone except the fire mage who was getting his ignites refreshed.
Easton Murphy
jesus, why are paladins so poorly designed for leveling it looks like they were meant to apply seal of the crusader, and then use seal of righteousness both for your auto attacks and for judgement but when you do the math, just having seal of the crusader on does the same amount of dps and costs a whole lot less mana
Parker Stewart
account with my 40 ud priest/30orc lock is locked for some raisin
Samuel Miller
The Burning Crusade was when the Lore was totally downhill instead of just rolling down it. Wrath of the Lich King and beyond was when it hit the bottom.
Yeah, Vanilla had its problems but TBC really was that cancer that killed the Lore.>>13403893
Alexander Jackson
Crusader's only worth it with a 2hander or if you stack the debuff. I don't think the "less damage per swing" thing actually works on Elysium.
Elijah Cox
Fun seeing mages kill mobs with two firebolts while you're spending 30+ seconds hammering away to achieve the same thing.
You need to rely on quest XP even more than other classes. This in mind, you get a movement speed buff early in the retribution tree* and a free mount at 40, which you'll need because you'll be poor as fuck.
It might ruin the "experience", but consider sucking it up and using the questie addon so that you don't miss hard to find quests.
*people will tell you to get consecration instead, but they're retards
Juan Sanders
I just saw a video of a guy named Optilasgar who was in the top meters as a ret on Nefarian. He claims that nobody retested ret for 1.12.1. Some people are claiming that his other dps mates just suck, but I just want to confirm his point: Are the other specs really that garbage? What about the people that are brining interesting points of how viable they can be?
Jack Rogers
Moonkin and all shaman dps is legit terrible in most raids because a lot of bosses are immune to nature damage. Now, whether or not this immunity works correctly on Elysium I don't know.
Kevin Martinez
i already started holy with that in mind
Jacob Myers
On nostalrius it used to be bugged to scale really well from attack power. You'd throw seal of the crusader and blessing might on and spam rank 1 for days. Of course, this had the side effect of making paladin leveling actually bearable, so elysium fixed it.
Mason White
Leveling a Paladin 101:
Anyone who says Ret Paladins are good in raids only played on buggy private servers. Ret and Prot Paladins are abso-fucking-lutely garbage in vanilla raids.
Consecrate is good for the few times you need the AoE while soloing or in dungeons and lvl 1 Consecrate is has its uses in PvP.
John Ross
Warcraft 1
For real though, around TBC. The scope just got too big. People have been calling for the big fight against whoever the fuck but the game was good when it was about going on adventures and fighting regional threats. Then it became about fighting the global threat of the week and started missing the point.
Noah Rivera
Moonkin druids use starfire in raids which does arcane damage.
Isaiah Reyes
I was always under the impression that Moonkins use starfire to get procs for the cast time reduction talent to use on wrath.
Eli Brown
Interesting thought but won't that benefit be offset by the fact that global cooldown is as long as the cast time of wrath?
Noah Flores
Oh wait I got them mixed up. Wrath is the short one and starfire is the long one.
Robert Wilson
where the fuck are all the warriors holy paladins don't make good tanks and healers at the same time
Jose Wright
continuing from this what's up with the class quest difficulty for some weapon that i'll outlevel fairly fast they want me to go through 3 dungeons i don't remember the warrior class quests being that hard/irritating
Parker Jackson
can i join have a lvl 60 rogue with some tier 1 pieces?
Kayden Russell
The warrior ones are way worse simple because they can't be done at level without help, but the rewards are usually more useful. The paladin hammer is nice but it's really nothing compared to the whirlwind axe.
Carson Thomas
What's your name in-game?
Gabriel Morris
Monmusugirl
Christopher Powell
What profession is good for a druid besides leatherworking?
Camden Bell
Critadins back in the day were the only way to get ret to "work", and by work i mean get fucking buttfucked by everything with an IQ greater than a pinecone. 31/0/20 was the only way to be a paladin and not suck cock
Rule of paladin DPS was Judge Crusader, use lvl 1 Seal of Command, repeat when crusader fades. Use consecrate if you feel like it and have mana.
Luis Collins
What profession is good for a druid besides leatherworking?
Lucas Hernandez
You niggers have like a million members what the fuck, since when cuckchan went full zerg guild?
Jayden Walker
Don't forget how they put a bunch of elves into the Horde just to raise its player base (being pretty and not ugly). Without doing it in a non-cheap way too (see the forced attempts to make the Night Elves hostile towards them despite TFT having their leaders meet and part on good terms).
Carter Foster
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Juan Wright
Alliance guild when.
Luke Turner
Finally someone posted the trannys tits!
Charles Gonzalez
Nerds, 24/27/0 holy/prot reckadin is the way to go, you can actually protect yourself in the open world with full reck stack so you can instant kill an enemy player if they get the drop on you and simultaneously heal yourself and others for any content whenever needed. Holy/ret or pure ret is pure RNG and a pure prot build is only good for spamming dungeons (if that's your thing).
I use anticipation because defense+ is better than armor score because defense+ also allows increased dodge rate.
Any agi+ class, even warrior and druid, that deals loads of damage through crits can be STOPPED dead in their tracks by SITTING DOWN to get crit on so you can multistrike, or just by multistriking back through Reckoning while fighting under normal conditions and getting critted on normally. It helps to have a really slow 2H weapon for maximum multistrike damage. Also make sure to put on SoC then SoR so you can get basically 10 hits on a person instantly once you fuck them up with full Reck stack.
Ret's gimmicky and only works through RNG, but if you play divine favor/reckoning paladin then you can fuck any agi class up, guaranteed. Spell crits can give you multistrike, too, which is always nice. The thing is, though, that paladin is the slowest class in the game, so you have to be really careful how you plan out every movement. Being an alchemist can help because you can drink speed potions and run at people with Blessing of Freedom on so you can fuck them up. Trust me, paladin is the bane of rogues, druids, warriors and hunters. They're only threatened by mage/shadowpriest/warlock/shaman. Enhancement shamans are on equal ground to a paladin, though.
t. Paladin for 13 years
Oliver Thomas
The benefit of fury warriors is that their damage scales extremely with gear, which is the complete opposite of rogues (which is why the naked gank was such a popular kind of pvp video back in the day.) That's why high end guilds will gladly accept a couple of fury warriors, but struggling guilds will have trouble with the concept of a warrior doing DPS. If you have the social skills to get together a group for AQ40 regularly fury warrior is the way to go. If not go rogue.
Carter Martinez
Are retri pallies viable for raiding? Is what user said about them being good at buggy realms and that in reality they are garbage in pve true?
Dylan Harris
I remember someone posted statistics on the best player of each class and how they compared against eachother on Anathema in BWL and the bottom performer was shaman closely followed by paladin in DPS.
James Walker
Unless you bring a nightfall with you its not viable.
Ian Lee
Listen, I want you to listen to me very carefully. I'm not going to give you the answer you expect. You've probably heard other people all reiterating the exact same thing, over and over, that "Ret paladins aren't playable." I'm not going to tell you that. All classes are different, and do different damage in different situations. Yes, fury warrior has the highest melee damage in the entire game. No, it's not a wrong thing to want to play as a retribution paladin and it's wrong of people to try saying you can't raid because they'd rather have a warrior. Retribution paladins can temporarily offheal, insta-heal, bubble others and do good damage. In my experience, they do as much damage as a combat rogue. Retribution is fun, but requires friends to play in PVE. If you like it that much, go for it! But just be wary, because some people have gigantic sticks up their asses and will deny you the game if you play as retribution, even though it's all right, even if not the best. That's like trying to tell people they don't want druids unless they're healers, shadow priests unless they're healers, hunters at all or any rogue but combat. And for arms? That's a PVP spec and the reason it's not brought to raids often is because it takes up a debuff slot on bosses that isn't useful. That's mostly the reason people have for the other classes, too, though. In my experience, if you play to have fun and simply learn the mechanics of mobs, patrols and bosses and use the right debuffs on the target you're fighting with the raid group and everyone has at least mildly above Pre-BIS (best in slot) then everything should be fine for Molten Core.
All in all, I urge you to play Retribution Paladin if you want to, regardless of others saying not to. It's fun!
Bentley Scott
Retribution paladins don't compete with arms warriors and enhancement shamans for raid spots, they compete with holy paladins (and lose).
Parker Diaz
so if by any chance i actually reach 60, what do i do then? prot is pointless at that point
Adrian Roberts
anyone got a dps meter addon? the recount i got didn't work, and SW stats only shows me overall damage done, not dps
Jacob Wright
Prots are glorious at dungeons. They're the quickest tank for the job for any late-game dungeon.
They don't compete with Holy Paladins, because they don't use the same armor (int versus str), n00b.
You should do some snooping on the old Nostalrius forums for some good add-ons, it's where I got my current stuff from, but I have a lot of junk and it isn't very user-friendly.
Go to the Add-ons and Macros index a bit below and look for the things you think you might like.
Chase Taylor
Also, Paladins and Shamans can't raid together, Shamans are Horde-only and Paladins are Alliance-only, and Arms warriors just never really raid :\ Sad, but the truth, because people keep them out because of lower dps because they're more pvp-oriented and have a -healing debuff instead of a bleed.
Isaac Cox
you can't bring as many people as you want to a raid though
Christian Ramirez
We should just bring only healers, frost mages and warriors to raids, then, because their damage is the highest. :(
Alexander Bennett
well with the occasional one person from a class to get buffs, but yeah
Matthew Kelly
I'm personally of the opinion that that would destroy the fun that the game because of the raid's superior knowledge of all mechanics going so far that they would just reroll only this, this, and this for raids and bar everything else, when they could be almost every class, but maybe I'm just an autist. Feel free to spit on me, I guess.
Justin Nguyen
look buddy, do you think people are gonna invite more than one moonkin? their damage is shit, and they're only needed for that one 3% crit aura
Leo Hernandez
You are right. But sadly, most people who want to have fun are fucking casuals who suck at the game. Yes, being with elitists might suck, but I'd rather play with people who put effort instead of fucking retards who don't want to maximize their performance. Sadly, it is VERY hard these days to find people who are skilled yet at the same time tolerate other specs for the sake of fun while they steamroll vanilla since the encounters are known already.
Connor Price
Warrior scaling gets out of control due to the rage mechanic. So in upper t2/t2.5 their rage generation is high enough that they can be using HS on almost every MH swing.
Isaac Cruz
So in effect if you want to raid, don't be ret. If all you want to do is queue for BGs and run the occassional 5 man when someone feels pity for you, ret is the way to go
Jaxon Rodriguez
About rage, is it true that most private servers fucked up with rage generation? Especially as rage from damage taken? I played on old Nost and Kronos 2 and some have claimed that warriors should get waaaay more rage when being hit. Something about them fucking up the formula.
Brayden Thomas
WoW
Juan Wood
How do you guys feel secure in the time you are investing in grinding on a private server? Doesn't the fear of all of it going away due to a shutdown bother you?
Lucas Cox
if the server is shit, blizzard won't do anything
Hunter Powell
Maybe every made I ever played with sucked ass but warlocks always outdamaged them unless it was a AOE fight.
Ian Gutierrez
Maybe not in Vanilla, but boomkins got the last laugh by becoming a stacked class all throughout Wrath-WoD though
Christopher Hall
I will only replay vanilla if Jewzerd released a legacy server that is not filled with fucking tokens. They might still bring the cancerous pet/mount shop, but I just want to play vanilla without bugs and the fear of losing the character and to level my warriors again till 60 everytime.
Oliver Richardson
Was moved to Prot early on. Even before that, you either healed or OOC rezzed as a Paladin early on during vanilla. I was the smart Paladin in my raid, I went Prot to be the Salv bitch so I'd only need to buff every 15 minutes. But I still healed full time. The Paladins who went Ret also healed full time.
Herb/Alch is the Druid prof combo. You can herb without leaving forms, you can stealth past mobs for areas with high mob concentration and in TBC you flight form cheese your way to wealth.
Reckoning build is also decent for leveling. Defense is kind of counter productive though, probably better off with points in Devotion/RF for groups or flat armor for solo.
You're insane.
Prot Paladins are the worst tanks for dungeons at any level. Any half decent Feral Druid shits all over them, same with a good Warrior. The overall tanking potential of each tanking class varies by how good the player is. It goes something like this: amazing Prot Warrior > amazing Druid > amazing non-Prot Warrior > good Druid > decent Druid > good Prot Warrior > average Druid > amazing Paladin > decent Prot Warrior > everything else. The best Druid player will never outperform the best Prot Warrior player in 5 mans and the best Prot Paladin will be drinking at the halfway point of the dungeon by the time the Druid and Warrior players have finished their run. If you want a more concise explanation: "any retard can muddle through tanking a 5 man with a Prot Paladin, but even the best players in the world won't make a Prot Paladin compared to Druids and Warriors".
Absolutely. When Kronos 2 launched, rage generation was horrible and on top of that, Berserker Rage didn't give extra rage. Elysium wasn't as bad as Kronos 2, but it was still way off compared to the vanilla values. This was compounded by the fact that Elysium content was made to be trivial and the mob damage values were a fraction of what they were on live, hurting rage generation even further.
James Brooks
Fuck, another reason to just hope for legacy servers, however pathetic this hope is.
Kevin Nguyen
It's essential to get enchanting if you plan to be a feral druid because of the BoP tanking trinket but you can abandon enchanting after you have it.
Brandon Brown
Legacy servers would be a monkey's paw tier nightmare if modern blizzard actually went through with it. Better if they never happen probably.
Sebastian Mitchell
Don't you want to pay 30$ to skip to lvl 60 with your dungeon tier 1 set? You don't want to get ganked in STV, do you?
Nicholas Gutierrez
Nigger wut Once they get Consecration, they're pretty damn good at lower levels. I remember running one of the SM dungeons (library I think) on a mage, and I could basically go balls to the wall while the tank held aggro like glue. Meanwhile, it's ungodly difficult to maintain aggro on a prot warrior at similar level in cleave/AoE situations. Druids weren't terrible in cleave, at least.
Gavin Cox
You don't AoE in vanilla, and nobody's gonna cleave until the late 30s, at which point Warriors have Berserker Rage. Prot Paladins have easy to use, decent burst AoE threat through Consecration, but have shit tier single target/cleave threat, have a metric fuckton of downtime and take significantly more damage than the other tanks. What matters the most in 5 mans is a clean and quick run. While the Prot Paladin is drinking, the Prot Warrior will be bringing back the next pull, and since the Prot Warrior's healer doesn't need to blow through nearly as much mana, the overall pace of the run is significantly faster.
Evan Garcia
Really a warrior tank with ret aura is just as good if not better than a paladin tank. Add thorns and fire shield then you're gold in 5mans, assuming the dps aren't spastics.
Joshua Torres
Add these two and you barely even have to autoattack stuff.
Adam Johnson
come on, i don't want to go all the way to kalimdor just for new quests
Blake Gray
It's 2017, and we still can't have a first name, middle name, and Second name, all held by assigned IDs to people who use duplicates of names, used by NPCs in conversations.
WoW NPCs still do not have assigned schedules and walk cycles and remain fixed to a location, nor has WoW added a sleugh of player animations for roleplay and NPC conversation, and has instead used the same few Emotes for years.
We still can't use Necromancy, there are no bards, racial differentiation with class usage is gone, and we don't have Broken, Naga, Fel Orcs, Skeletons, or any other races of interest, and that fucking pearl at the bottom of the sea is still there.
Jonathan Taylor
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Brody Myers
Invite Huntla to the guild please.
Angel Cook
When will they reboot the franchise already?
Parker James
When they're not making 50 million USD a month on subs.
Gabriel Harris
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Robert Jenkins
test >>>Holla Forums
Cameron Phillips
The riff raff should stay out.
Ryan Taylor
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Justin Walker
I have a couple of questions for tanking as a warrior. I want to be fury end game, but I know that I will be forced to tank dungeons to get the pre-raid bis items (mainly by not inviting warriors and maybe getting mage/lock/rogue dps and compete with rogue for only 1handers or a couple of items).
Are prot talents not needed for scholomance/Strat/LBRS? I heard some people who said that you need to invest a bit on prot in order to tank decently at lvl 60. Second, what is the best way to hold threat? I know Sunder Armor is the king of threat, but say I got a pack of 3 mobs, do I need to sunder each while focusing on the main target so dps don't get aggro from him?
Carson Kelly
you absolutely need the defense stats from the prot tree to push the crushing blows off the bosses hit table untill you get defense gear holding threat is a combination of sundering each mob and battle shouting, battle shout deals threat based on the amount of AP it gives to each player then splits that sum between all active mobs engaged in combat with the party if you can, always cornerpull mobs where you step out of their Line-of-sight to get them running to you, battle shout if you can, otherwise use the rage generator cooldown then battle shout generating rage also causes threat if you're unsure about your ability to hold threat from dps on the main target tell them to hold their damage back untill you get at least 2 sunders on the main target, this should be no problem though as most dps classes have some sort of threat reset or other escape ability like rogues vanish and mages frost nova also tell your party to run straight to you instead of trying to run away from the mob if they pull aggro
Luke Gutierrez
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Hunter Williams
It is annoying, yeh, but at the end of the day I get all the loot. Just have to kick shammies, pallies and huntards.
Jonathan Hall
I was thinking about coming back but Why? And more importantly is there a better guild?
Thomas Carter
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Easton Baker
I assume you're referring to the rule about "no holocaust denial denial". We had to change that rule because people were struggling to understand the double negative.
Lucas Martin
I joined the guild with a less gay name this time
Benjamin Harris
can we all agree that duskwood is both the best and worst zone in the game?
Elijah Morales
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Lucas Bailey
Downloaded this a while ago, recently deleted it to free up space. Left because the chinese were fucking everywhere and finding mobs not in a constant state of respawn, live five seconds, die was a pain in the ass.
Any better?
Jeremiah Fisher
i keep getting whispered by chinks every 5-30 minutes, and it's a different one every time otherwise there's more than enough mobs on anathema
Matthew Robinson
I can deal with the chinese, It was mainly the mobs I was worried about. It's nice to have people just around to help, but when it becomes a slog it's just a pain.
I found my old battlechest book in the closet and it made me think about this thread. I'll post later when i've made something.
Noah Lee
good luck with that, it took me 3 days to find someone who'd help me kill stalvan even though i was offering gold
David Moore
So looking at the timeline I'm wondering something. Are the game currently in the scourge invasion event? Did I miss all the updates or something?
Alexander Morales
Too bad Anathema is a dead server, and everyone is just raid-logging at this point.
John Campbell
it's had 2k people all day today rest of the week it's 1.1-1.6k
Jaxon Myers
A paradox in it's own creation
Josiah James
So about 1k per faction and yet you still don't see anyone out in the world, and 500 per faction otherwise during the rest of the week.
Lucas Barnes
Ok, everything downloaded. Since I played a mage in retail I'm thinking about playing one of the high demand classes. What do you have the least of?
Nolan Johnson
Tanks and healers are always welcome.
Josiah Brooks
For demand it usually goes something like this Tier 1: Resto shaman Tier 2: Resto druid, tryhard fury warrior, healing priest, warlock Tier 3: Everyone else Tier 4: Rogue It's impossible to predict what the situation is going to be when we have enough 60s to raid but my guess it won't be far off.
Blake Jones
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Blake Young
I'll take resto shammy then. My friend who first got me into the game played a tauren shaman and tried to get me into the game before crusade dropped. didn't work, only started directly after crusade came out.
Still I have fond memories of hanging at his house and him letting me play the game. Make a charicter, play around in the starting zone. They were always horde. The one time I did manage to convince him to let me play an ally he guided me out of the human starter gates and right into some lvl 6 defias. When I asked why he did that hey just said "Well that's what they deserve"
David Green
He was right, you know.
Henry Ramirez
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John Sanders
Everyone learns eventually.
Charles Hughes
yes goyim, spend your only 5 gold on silver ore, who needs mounts at 40
Aaron Davis
m8 when I reached 40 I had 10 gold. Mounts are 100.
Adam Mitchell
Ok, Tauren shaman named Muyata. I'll try to /who someone, but his name is here now just in case I'm unimaginably dense and can't find anyone.
Gavin Price
i'm gonna beat the market, just you watch anyways i got to ashenvale and went to the demon/horde part, found some ores there and now i'm at 125 silver can finally fuck off, it's time for iron and my blacksmithing is nearly green iron level, so that's great am i autistic for going for professions first and leveling second? i don't want to be outgeared by shitty hordes, and my experience so far has proven this to be a good idea
Jordan Davis
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Kayden Martin
i've got mining and blacksmithing but the mining stuff goes for myself
Camden Flores
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Henry Taylor
but look at the green iron gear man i can make that shit besides, i have enough money for class/professions, just no money to throw at shit i can get myself
Wyatt Brooks
How? The place is just terrible all around.
Alexander Baker
good quest lore bad levels all around
Jaxson Williams
It had potential. Early concepts had the zone pitch black, requiring you to equip a torch or lantern to light your way.
Leo Williams
TBC.
Space goats? Come the fuck on.
Isaac Harris
oh sry im stupid sometimes thx i think of reinstalling now
Adam Fisher
What herey is this? Yiffkitty is our seasoned Holla Forums MMOoldfag disgusting heresy.
Gavin Campbell
Yiffkitty is in the guild, he's just not using the same name by his own volition.
Let's calm the tism, anons.
Tyler Hughes
IT IS I, THE ALL-FAMOUS YIFFKITTY I'VE COME TO SAY FUCK ALL OF YOU I'M NOT A FURRY I STOLE THIS NAME FROM SOME FAG IN WILDSTAR YEARS AGO TO BE OBNOXIOUS AND I DEEPLY REGRET IT Also I'm in with a different name and you should come play vanilla wow. Project Gorgon revival when?
John Martinez
Average level of everyone in is going up.
Jacob Hall
What was your name there?
Carson Bell
Yiffkitty
Jeremiah Russell
Daymn, I didn't meet you there then at all. I played with that that spiderfag Yarsi, pigfucker unter(?), that one wolfshitter Ksah-something and bunch of others.
Connor Edwards
so where do i level as alliance at lv 28? arathi?
Ryan Price
Either Wetlands or Ashenvale. You don't really have many options.
Jacob Garcia
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Landon Campbell
Eh, the Space Goats were neat on paper and were less of a stretch as a playable race in the factions than the Forsaken and Blood Elves. They dropped the ball on them yeah.
Kevin Lee
Fug u, Space Goats are cool and the original design of the Broken was both ugly and boring. Basically WoW's take on Tieflings, and it was a welcome addition.
Charles Richardson
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Hunter Carter
I've played too much on World of Warcraft private servers. Are there any good ones right now? I had level capped character on Elysium but quit and don't think it's worth the trouble to dig my up my login info.
Nathaniel Adams
define good as far as i can tell elysium works fine, but you're gonna have to put up with gold sellers every 5 minutes there's also nobody in low level battlegrounds, even though there are lots of low level players
Adam Martinez
use spamthrottle to stop the gold sellers also low level bgs are alive on the weekends t. 29 hunter twink
Juan Powell
You insult Tieflings and these fags were not a welcome addition. The original design was good. They were horrific monstrosities with teeth like needles and dispositions to match. Furthermore, there isn't a single redeeming quality about the retcon. They're disgusting furfag bait + some alien horseshit + some gnostic bullshit and none of that is going into depth about why specifically they're trash. Only tasteless plebs like Draenei. But I suppose its only tasteless plebs who pop boners to WoW, so whatever, congratulations you've got yourself caught in Blizzards trap. What's the next step in your master plan?
Parker Harris
ur stupid.
Ryan Hughes
At least one video joked that Blizzard's marketing team said they can't have original Draenei, who were retconned as Broken, as playable characters. I'd guess they weren't only reason but likely a contributing factor. Blood Elves could also be seen as an attempt to give Horde some sex appeal but considering the Blood Elf campaign in Frozen Throne, them joining Horde isn't completely retarded. Forsaken at least supposedly include undead elves in addition to undead humans and they were already in Horde.
Blake Myers
is anyone still on anathema? i want to do gnomeregan instead of fighting mobs 8 levels higher than me, but 99% of the population in the cities is lv 60
Wyatt Carter
Any way to make macro that toggles autorun? I've traditionally kept it at mouse4 but it's waste of easily accessible button for autopilot mode.
Ian Green
Can you not just rebind it in the options?
Dylan Rivera
I was hoping I could click it from side action bar.
Jason Hall
can't you just use num lock?
Jack Brooks
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Robert Morales
I don't think you can do that.
Hudson Howard
I'll bear with using NumLock then I guess..
Kayden Bailey
Last time i played this game was years back on 3.5 server. Will you autists accept a eu faggot with broken spelling and grammar. Never played this vanilla but i learn fast. also this game is has pretty easy PVE so i think i will be fine. cAn i join?
Sebastian Lopez
FUTA DRAENAI CONFIRMED CNAON
David Taylor
Based on what?
Carson Smith
You guys know that's working as intended right? You're supposed to be able to cast through trees.
It's gay but it's accurate.
Justin Powell
How do I make macros?
John Bailey
ESC->macros or type /macro I'd actually recommend first making macro that's just /macro to easily access the macro interface and test stuff with it.
Ayden Gray
Sorry you got such a shit-taste in ugly characters, bro.
Chase Sullivan
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Jace Carter
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Logan Lopez
REKT. Now tell me all about how great Discord is.
Carter Myers
wew
Connor Wilson
FUCK
Does the horde guild need warlocks?
Julian Ramirez
It's impossible to say what the situation is going to look like when we get enough 60s to raid but you guys should join us anyway.
Jackson Murphy
I don't feel like creating my own thread for this. I remenber hearing this private server that allowed you to create a custom class,and the main complaint was how they were nerfing combinations that were too powerful.
Any idea what server that was?
Robert Smith
Ascension probably.
Andrew Price
thanks nice trips Satan.
Christian Walker
Can't decide between. Warrior and rogue.
Hudson Kelly
fucking casuals
Justin Reed
The Forsaken being in the Horde to begin with is weak for the lore. What with all the zombies formed by blasphemous magic.
Austin Thomas
Druid
Gabriel Martinez
No.
Ethan Edwards
good luck arguing that new EQ is better, unless you want people to laugh
Camden Jenkins
Are you retarded? They got wiped out by THE SCOURGE. And who do you think the forsaken are against? THE SCOURGE. The blood elves even start as friendly with forsaken because they have a common enemy. Fucking racist thinking all skeletal-americans look the same.
Charles Wright
What addons will show me how much my items will sell for to a vendor?
Kevin Hernandez
Whelp, the only thing left to do is to suffer.
Brayden Watson
There is no excuse to being a dps warrior preraid content. Do your fucking job.
Ayden Reed
I have a 60 Priest on this server who is Ony/MC attuned.
I'm not sure if I should come back though.I'm like an old heroin addict when it comes to wow.
Cameron Richardson
So what? The Forsaken have repeatedly shown themselves to be little better than the Scourge, with Sylvanas really having nothing making her better than Arthas (who had the soul eating sword excuse). What with how they went to war against their neighbors in the Eastern Kingdoms, developed a plague, and go on on about how the living blow.
The Alliance are also enemies with the Scourge. Should they have rejoined? TFT even had the BE and NE leaders, meet, fight together, and part on good terms.
Also:
The Forsaken even approaching the BEs without being burned on sight is weak Lore too.
Jonathan Rogers
That's uncanny. Which came first though?
Joseph Ross
read it as foreskin
Samuel Davis
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Aiden Edwards
I don't get it. You're being no different than half-chan by banning people over stupid shit. the whole point of 8ch is freedom of speech and being able to post however the fuck you want. If emoticons trigger you, you're no better than half-chan
oh that's right. This is a half-chan guild after all. nevermind
Jace Cruz
Warriors are the best Melee, if anything class, for PvP in vanilla. I see nothing wrong with a warrior taking their leveling time to fully grasp their rotation to focus on being a warrior in pvp when they reach max level Is elysium that dead that you need everybody possible to play tank ?
Jacob Bailey
I will probably join the first active thing i see. I'll bring a friend. We don't talk a lot, hope that's not gonna be an issue for you autists.
Leo Gray
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Owen Mitchell
Short answer? Yes. And in vanilla, warriors were always the best tanks. The classes in general just weren't very well conceived, and Blizz didn't even try to make sense of them until Wotlk/cata depending on who you ask.
Sebastian Nguyen
i like Long but he's a turbo autiste
Julian Phillips
It's funny because we used to have another discord and people threw a shitfit because head autist wouldn't give them emojis so they made a new discord because they NEEDED emojis.
These guys will never raid anyways, that takes work too. Some of us end up fucking off to join actual raiding guilds because of it.
Benjamin Jones
Rtas, I miss your /world shitposting.
Easton Nelson
Please don't compare me to that retard. But I'm right, last time we tried this guild ended up burning out and I ended up joining Titans of War to actually be able to raid.
Camden Richardson
pick one
Henry Davis
The Forsaken are dindus enough for it to stick.
Ethan Young
my niBBA malzeer is fucking based
Michael Smith
t. Rtas
Jonathan Gonzalez
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Jordan Price
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Evan Lopez
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Ayden Parker
!!!
John Cook
Anyone up for some Uldaman dungeon? I'm tired of looking in the game.
Ryder Anderson
can some one post the druid talent tree leveling infograph?
Daniel Davis
You guys hear of ascension? Can make custom classes with skills from any class, can play cross faction, and can steal shit from players in pvp.
Adrian Martin
is there an alliance guild? or just a horde one
Bentley Gonzalez
For what purpose, how can a man play private servers with any expansion available and still fucking go for vanilla over and over. this is fucking insane
Chase Brown
Name a Server that has the Necromancer Class, Naga race, Walrus Race, Playable Skeletons, Giants, Ogres, sub-races of Orcs Elves and Trolls, has no fucking changes to the starter zone and no instant level ups or any of that shit, has old Nax but current content. and other stuff.
John Gonzalez
Hey first time poster Long time lurker How do I get prebis on this shit server, I can never find groups is there some sort of trick to it?
Caleb Morris
OLD MEME
Connor Green
does this one have necro class? what the fuck
Joseph Gomez
Best meme.
Nathan Gutierrez
Paladin leveling is a special art. It's more about tanking than attacking. Use Seal of the Crusader, get the Consecrate talent (it does bonus damage based on your attack power and holy dmg, so SotC is your seal of choice), 5/5 Divine Strength (more attack power), and 5/5 Spiritual Focus, use Blessing of Might (more consecrate dps), Concentration Aura, and aggro like 10 mobs, then stand in the middle of them with your plate-wearing, shield-equipped ass, and spam self-heals. Since you have 100% interrupt avoidance you can heal yourself nonstop while Consecrate kills the fuckers. If you go Prot you can also get Holy Shield for defense and reflective damage. And One-Handed Specialization actually increases all your damage while you have a 1H equipped, not just weapon damage. Get a shield spike and if you're an engineer, Force Reactive Disk.
Alternatively you can get a Ravager from Scarlet Monastery and put a Crusader or Fiery Blaze (Alliance-only) enchant on it to do more aoe damage while you consecrate. (Crusader's self-heals are not to be underestimated when you're facetanking large amounts of mobs, and Paladins put the strength bonus to good use.) In that case you might want to use Seal of Light for more self-heals or Seal of Righteousness for more damage.
Anyway, go AoE grind, because your solo grinding rate is pure dogshit.
Best profession for a Paladin is Engineering, esp. PvP-wise, but Alchemist will make you rich and help you level faster (and win PvP, but you can just buy those pots, although selling them makes a lot of $$$).
Enchanting (for armor trinket) or Herb/Alch, usually. But you will want to buy a Wolfshead Helm as a Druid (and maybe a Barbaric Belt too) if you're not leatherworking one yourself.
Luis Gray
No. They're possible, but no one decided "Hey, maybe I should made a Wow private server that's accurate to it's tabletop origins using the WoW d20 RPG .PDFs and further emphasis on ingame functionality/A.I and scripts that make the world more immersive in terms of setting the stage of players and NPCs having purpose within the world that applies to the player opposed to simply serving the players means to an end.
Lucas Cox
No, it works like a double negative. If you say the holocaust happened (deny a denial) you'll be banned.
Xavier Ross
The best argument for being a DPS Paladin isn't that Paladins make good DPS (lolno). It's that Paladins also make bad healers since they have the worst scaling (no cast time reduction talent) and that they are mostly a utility pickup for Lay on Hands, auras, blessings, and Cleanse bot duty. You then argue that you can LoH/BoP/aura/bless/cleanse just fine as retri which is what you really want Paladins for. I think those spells shouldn't interrupt autoattacks either so this way you could conceivably be more useful while cleansing than the healbots.
I think there's either holy dmg going Seal of Righteousness with a Flurry Axe or attack power with Seal of the Crusader with something like Halberd of Smiting. Either way you use Consecrate for more DPS though. I'm not sure on the numbers of DPS Paladins though, and the Elysium forum's "experts" (killerduki and theloras) on this subject are legit retarded fanatical paladin fanboys, who frequently suck at math and have an intense hatred of anything that resembles an admission of paladins being bad dps/tanks/healers.
Paladins and Warlocks don't. They get theirs for free.
Eli Hall
Oh no please go back I dont need to shitpost on two vanilla wow threads at the same time Zuggy
David Young
I think Elysium changed that.
Jacob Bennett
Ah. Been a while.
Jaxson Martin
eh, i prot pally tanked leveld on nost and didnt have to drink that much. as a general rule i only drank when a dps drank. I didnt spam my abilities much because i didnt really have to.
Wyatt Murphy
its bunch of 4chan rejects trying to trick some Holla Forums guild members into playing Chinklysium again
Liam King
What classes you need Long? I'm tempted by warrior.
Levi Hernandez
Fuck it. I'll try this out. What class is fun to level for a first timer? Warlocks seem pretty cool.
Thomas Gomez
Yes we need more warriors, both tank and DPS
Warlock is an excellent class for a first timer. Or Mage.
Charles Price
We need healsluts more than anything right now.
Shaman & Priest will be guranteed raid spots.
Jack Kelly
You simply need to whisper people and talk to them. Also, making some friends doesn't hurt.