Sanic World

Afaik thats the S3&K mecha sonic

Game has models for all variants

S3&K was 2D and its mecha sanic didn't look like ass

Nah, that's a mod. Not the base game model. I guess transition from 2d to 3d wasn't successful. The game is fun though.

More like

it's pretty cool, but I would like some better lvel designs, no underwater shit see: metal harbor and the ranking system to factor in time rather than actual score.

That's sadly how adventure works, it's not going fast it's doing a tick list of homing attack chains and bonus stuff in levels to earn enough points to force your score at the A rank margin.
Shame since some fan levels are like egg hunts for enemy chains for the A rank.

What's the point of them then? I liked that they gave a reason for the somersault attack to exist.

On the subject of sonic fan shit I hope that dude does make that 06 unity remake, the game played so much smoother then the actual game and being able to trust the level design to function actually lets me enjoy the level the dev used for it.
I recorded a webm of getting S rank in the demo ages ago but I seem to have deleted it sadly but just googling "sonic 06 remake" is enough to give you plenty of results.

There's loads of stages on mod page. I just installed like 125 from completely different people. That's fuckton to play. Some of them better than included stages with the release 7.

pic unrelated.

aren't there missions that have different requirements?

you have to hit twice but I never liked the somersault attack idea anyways.

didn't thought there would be a big enough sample size, will check it out once I'm done with a few games.

Still have to do those task lists to boost the score.
Funny enough the ones with the least hassle are the gem finders since on hard / bonus missions stuff like the emerald pieces are always in set spots so you can do them quick for large point bonuses.

Because it falls apart in the level design department, and third-party levels aren't any better. The developer has spent more time on adding characters than he has on making good levels to use those characters on.

Why is there no chao exclusive game yet?

Agreed, in general SEGA has been pretty great lately. Well except for some slight fuckups in Terms of DRM which completely ruined the Steam reviews for Sonic Mania.

I don't understand how that's even possible short of running some gay ass AAA game on a toaster using an outdated motherboard only to blame DRM for some reason when it eventually dies.

steam reviews don't matter. PC gamers are more concerned with technical issues than the actual content of the game, they're absolutely brainwashed and it makes discussion of certain things impossible. Good luck actually talking about the game when these people are obsessed with a secondary aspect. Kinda like autists who cry about SJW devs when someone asks "well is the game any good?"

is this guy fucking retarded?

So which censored game did you pre-order?

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duke nukem forever

Just found this interaction real funny.

Sega got a blank check with Whitehead working for them, but with their list of past fuck-ups, I'd say it was a "sure why not" rather than a calculated decision.

If this opens them up to getting outside help who know what their fucking doing- then great.
Otherwise, I think Mania (and any games they hire autists who study well to work on) is gonna be their only saving grace.

And Boom might be number 2.

Seems like one of their writers was mad they made fun of some leftist stuff. He could be trolling, could be going for a "make fun of everyone" style show.
Sam is also credited under Sam Freiberger at times.

Could also be tongue-in-cheek as well. Amy is sometimes depicted as the voice of reason, but usually as over-sensitive and over-protective.

the game itself looks pretty good, all they managed to do by including denuvo is make me wait for a crack.

Its fine.

It will be the exactly same game as all the previous games.

Techraptor's article had some fixes. But some anons disputed it working.
techraptor.net/content/sonic-mania-pc-version-online-only-denuvo

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Does anyone have the bigger image of that where she has a few more lines and looks left & right between each panel?

Fans did a bunch of them. The one in sonic world copies Adventure 1/2 chao garden, except for most of unique chao animations and interactions, and Chao Resort Island copies the chao garden from Advance, adding new features to its concept.

of course sonic utopia is gonna be expanded upon
its only an early demo, after all

without having played the game I've at least two criticisms of it:
sonic's running animation is too slow
why are ALL of the characters portrayed in mid-spindash on the character select screen? omega doesn't spindash and neither does big the cat
in fact, each character should have their own unique animation for the character select screen; the way they did it makes it seem like they don't know what makes the characters appealing
also i think one of the characters might be deviantart spawn, but i didnt play anything after heroes so im not so sure

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okay after having played the game, I've more criticisms of it

also, sonic utopia has literally no handholding during the levels AT ALL, unless you count reaching the end of the level

That's probably because it's not a level, it's a sandbox for testing the physics.

Both bethesda and nintendo are okay with porn, theres way more porn of skyrim and fallout than of sanic and of much better quality since you have fanbois paying actual money to pro artists to make it

There are also tons of super detailed porn mods for bethesda games, you can have naked elf lolis fucking in skyrim and the models are more detailed than those of the original NPCs in the game

Same with nintendo, tons of quality porn like pic related. You even had fan games like "mario is missing" where you played as peach and got fucked in a ton of ways.

They don't want fan games because they think those will take sales from the main games and cheapen the brand because its free

They only keep the cartoon going because CN wanted more episodes and paid for them afaik

Also the cuck mentions how S&P stopped him

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If I have to guess, it's because half of custom zones the fangame has look like no effort or planning was thought. People who made theses zones don't look like they have a sense of good level design. Overuse of rings, dash rings and items placement and unusual and odd placements of terrain and ground are bad ideas. It's what said. Also, why the fuck none of custom zones has a loopable music at all?

But yeah, I agree it's good, especially when it pleases my wish of Adventure 3. World perfectly portrays how should Adventure 3 look and play like overall.

That's what the mods serves for. Just replace the Sonic model.

Heroes imply otherwise. Both jump while spinning.

All of the included characters are official.
sonicworldfangame.com/characters/

okay i guess it being a test level makes the camera-moving helicopter bumper more justifiable
but
at least it has alot of distinctly different characters, but thats not enough to make me redownload it unless i get my hands on a gamecube controller for the PC or something

Wow I hate Sonic Boom now.

The game is good but the devs keep fucking up features of it because they're "exploitable" in the terms that people could use them to edit the game files and extract models which one of the 3d modelers is incredibly asshurt about people extracting and using. The creator, Ozcrash, is basically a child and he's honestly kind of a fucking lolcow; this god damn nigga removed external, transferable save files from the game because he got upset that people were editing the saves because they didn't wanna grind for emblems to get new chao eggs.

Now listen, the game is good and all and that's fun. I've had my fill of it already because the blitz engine was never made to make games; it was made for people to mess around in for artistic purposes, and it shows. I had some severe framerate issues in the more larger open levels last time I played. Some of the balancing changes are god damn retarded too: they made it so Knuckles can only glide for about 5 seconds before falling simply because it was "broken". Chao Garden is amazing, and again I really like the gameplay, but shit. Blitz Sonic was an open-source project and these niggas just took it, made it closed-source, and ran. They shut off the progression and development of that old project and disrespected the intent of the original creator by doing this and now they're acting like a bunch of fucks.

So personally to me, Sonic World, while not a bad game, and actually a great one when at its best, is a huge example of what can happen to something great if being led by the wrong people. Maybe I should go back to it one day; I remember enjoying it when I was playing it two years ago or so.

Is this the game you're talking about, OP?

Adventure 2's point system is the best. Your time is still a very important factor, so if you're not going fast, you're not gonna get a good Rank, but while going fast, you have to keep an eye out for how to pull off the best Combos and make sure you get as many enemies as possible, at least as many as you can without slowing down too much.

IIRC the only level in Adventure 2 that requires you to actually go out of your way and take a slower path to get the best score is Metal Harbor, where you have to go fast as fuck at the end so you have time to go past the "end" of the rocket section and get through a secret area before time runs out.

i dont see how any cars are supposed to use this highway realistically

They forced Paheal to remove the Pokemon tag, which gets resolved to "Porkymon", and they also served a C&D to the guy that drew all the Zero Suit Fox porn

And let's not forget:

>that fucking camera

To be fair, furry shit is disgusting, so no harm no foul.

But Sonic has beaten Metal Sonic on many occasions.

Metal Sonic is canonically faster than Sonic, but loses because he's usually trying to directly challenge Sonic instead of focusing on whatever he should be doing.
(Metal Sonic is arguably the strongest character in the series but that's a discussion for another day).

This looks pretty bad. Has that thing that all these fan games have where the proportions and spped just seems wrong in every way.

tomorrow is labor day. You got time to tell us how; or do you have to work on labor day?

go back to your circlejerk board faggot.

Metal Sonic in his overlord form from Heroes was almost unstoppable. Super Sonic couldn't even hurt him alone, he needed his friends' power to do it.

We're getting into some Madara Uchiha copypasta levels of bullshittery here but Metal Sonic can absorb Perfect Chaos to become near-unstoppable with the power of Chaos Control and managed to beat both Super Sonic and Super Shadow at the same time.

lol, good game

Not just chaos, that nigga can steal data from just about anything, like Emerl

(Citation Needed)
Neat headcanon or whatever, but I can't find any place where the say that. In CD he crashes into that wall, but you still have to go faster than him in order to see that.

Metal Sonic also loses to Sonic in Triple Trouble, Drift 2, Fighters, R, Heroes, Rivals, Rivals 2, Generations, Sonic 4, and now Mania, off the top of my head. And he loses to Knuckles in Chaotix.

Did Heroes ever bother to say how exactly Metal Sonic was able to absorb data like that? Presumably the shapeshifting was due to Chaos data, but how did he even get the ability to just take the data like that?

No, I think he just had that for some reason
He transformed into sonic to steal chocola and froggy in the first place

I want to know has the momentum of the 2D Sonic games been successfully translated into 3D? Sonic Lost World gave me hope for a proper 3D momentum Sonic if shifting speeds from jog to run was done better. The run button might sound retarded but speed has always been the best reward for good platforming.

3D Sonic has always focused on the fast and not the momentum control. While jogging you have full control over the momentum with the stick. While running Sonic controls a bit more like a car where turns have to be wider. For 3D Sonic I always wanted a jump, kick, break, and roll button in more open levels. Breaking is for slowing down quickly to pivot or drift when fast. Kicking like in lost world kicks enemies and objects forward (this needs to be utilized more). Rolling is a defensive move you can protect yourself with. It also lets you use the terrain at your mercy for movement. Also spin dash will still be there for instant speed. You can short hop to get out of rolling to get back to running. As for more open levels they can still be action stages where you get from start to finish but I still want the zone to be big enough to have multiple horizontal paths or maybe a hub world with action paths linking to different areas.

I just want a Sonic game where I can control my momentum to explore at any pace I want. Slow down to look for things I find interesting or go fast and do acrobatic stunts any time I want.

I think that was a case of Metal being mistaken for Sonic from fuzzy newspaper photography taken at a distance.

the chao garden just doesn't feel the same
is the chao AI better? are there more forms with the now not-hidden luck stat? are there still immortal chaos chao?
honestly id rather play the SA2 chao garden if it just had more chao toys

also, the huge garden means its not as easy to watch over your chao; otherwise its a nice addition

metal sonic has a longer-distance homing attack and can select a target mid-homing attack; he can also send out electricity in front of him as an AoE, even while moving
but no ring dash, too bad

That was literally a picture of the sonic model though

That is because sonic exists thanks to their hardcore autistic fanbase that consistently buys their shit.

Well, if it was actually Metal in the picture, the player could easily see that and the whole twist would be revealed in the beginning cutscene. It's not like Metal had a reason to change into Sonic to kidnap the two.

sonic utopia got the momentum and physics to a state where you couldn't think of an improvement to them to ask for, aside from adding new characters
unfortunately its only an early demo, so theres just one level; it seems open-ended, but you can beat it in under a minute and 30 seconds if you go mostly straight and then left on the final section from the spawn point
there also is zero handholding, unlike sonic worlds

now if only the finished game would have a level editor and chao garden and other characters, including metal

I'm watching a video of Sonic Utopia. Looks like if the game wants tighter level design then a few extra moves might be necessary for speed control. The physics look great. A little too floaty for me but they work well enough.

HOW DO I MAKE PS4 CONTROLLER WORK WITH SONIC WORLD GOD DAMN IT, HELP ME.
IT JUST SPINS THE FUCKING CAMERA AND x360ce NEITHER 32 OR 64 REFUSE TO WORK WITH IT

Page 21 of the Sonic Adventure 2 Battle manual.

Huh, that's weird. The PC port of Adventure 1 has the same problem.

You're sounding like Sparky. You don't want to sound like Sparky.

No chuckles experience.

Don`t you use DS4windows?

SRB2 is an adequate game but it's a terrible sonic game, it has no momentum and basically defeats the main design purpose of the series.

It does have momentum, you just have more control over it than most Sonic games. Its biggest issue is its lacks of slopes and things to play with momentum, but they're fixing that.

that's what I meant, they have the ability but not the routes. It's like a sports car with no track.

You have a severe case of shit taste if you think a game that looks like shit, plays even worse than SA2 and has haphazard shitty level design is anything close to "good". You can't even say the chao garden is its saving grace since they have added nothing to it. Just play SA2 and you'll have the same amount of fun with chao. Why is it good? The character roster? Who cares about that when the core of the game is shit.

Pretty much this. Call me when Utopia gets updated.

I don't like nintendo, but if I recall when kids were looking up "pokemon" on of the first results to come up was paheal. A lot of players are adults at this point but I guess they still don't want the few children playing pokemon to easily stumble upon porn of it accidentally and god knows we don't need more furries

Oh right, this picture showed up first on Google images for a while

Prudes BTFO

the longer the IPs that have previously developed furries go on, the more furries there will be made

There is a fine line between being a muh degeneracy think of the children faggot, and wanting pokemon smut to be the first fucking result on google.

*not wanting

What's wrong with wanting pokemon smut to be the first result on google?

For one, it's an awful image for your company to have, and secondly most people don't want to see that shit.

Good, that ponyfag needed to get knocked down a peg.

STOP POSTING THIS GOD DAMN REACTION IMAGE IT'S FUCKING AWFUL

STOP POSTING THIS GOD DAMN REACTION IMAGE IT'S FUCKING AWFUL

YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH I DESPISE . I HIDE THAT SHIT IMMEDIATELY AFTER I SEE IT.

IF THERE'S ONE THING IN THIS WORLD THAT TRIGGERS ME, IT'S THAT FUCKING IMAGE.

Shadow's run skill in Battle is also described as being faster than Sonic' s for some reason (I'm guessing it's the hover shoes)

Sparky? You mean that deviantart autist that posts on Sega's official forum and is a cuckchan tripfag?

Also, NoA reports porn artists on tumblr for copyright violations. These reports can be appealed to get the account back, but it doesn't stop the reports from coming in so they need to be constantly appealed if the artist is popular enough on that site.

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Is it wrong that I unironically find this to be good music?

This is ass, i am now addicted to completing user made levels in this game. I use 6 different custom sonics from different eras and going through reimagined classic levels with them feels so damn great.
Too bad some people are going to miss this experience just because they get stuck in environment or fall through floor. This shit requires adventure 1 skills of handling the game carefully to not fuck up, its just as bad. Like in some levels levels of SADX where you can grind walls of spiral ramps you're running on and fall from vertical ground pretty easily to your death.
Amazingly shitty experience that remind me of fun i had with adventure. But with fresh (and shitty) level design. This game really needs more good level designers to make more custom content for it. I mean more quality over quantity. The engine itself is not bad.

A fucking legal document sounds pretty forced

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I still can't believe Tiara of all characters was made playable.

this is illegal, sorry. reported.

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Sonic CD, this attack has him ramming into the player from behind and exiting the screen to the right of him, no matter how fast he's going.

100% honest, at first glance that look like cluster truck. a game were you go fast

All of that sounds fantastic whay do you say it like it's a bad thing, lmao

Helps that the song has style

sounds like they are making fun of both sides, which is what you should do.

But it never says you ever reach Sonic's max potential speed in that game. Considering Sonic can nearly break the sound barrier in boost gameplay, I'm not sure we should be taking a single attack animation in a classic game as definitive proof Metal is canonically faster than Sonic, especially when gameplay/story segregation is a concept that exists. Plus, Sonic runs much faster in the CD opening animation than he ever does in-game.

Except she doesn't, Tails is the actual voice of reason. She is just a dumb bitch.

How about acknowledging that CD is not canon and spinoff? And that Metal appears either like fan service character or like never seen being before?

You do realize there are two CD stages in Mania, right?

He's the main villain of Heroes and Amy in SA1 has a flashback of being saved from Metal Sonic. He's canon, CD's canon.

Not really. new games always trimumph in canon so without cd on the elevator they basically say the came isnt cannon at least partially

like sonic metal was canon made in later gamesx and amy too but cd itself isnt canon

Which is it?

Because they're eventually gonna come after splatoon you drooling retard.
I know this is bait, but come on.

Crisis city is in generations, your argument is invalid.

user. Metal from Sonic Adventure is much more cooler than metal from sonic cd. That's a different metal and that's a different amy.

Also for sonic canon:
Sonic 2 had metal sonic. Sonic 3&k had metal sonic (mecha), they are both can replace metal sonic of cd any time they want, and SA1 metal looks like sonic 2 metal to be honest. Amy in sonic adventure 1 is a rehashed, but new character just introduced into the story as potential love interest. Heavy redesign is obvious.

Retards.

I guess that means Cream isn't canon either? She was introduced in Advance 2, which is not a main series game.

Have you seen cream in sonic unleashed, sonic colors, sonic generations, sonic lost world, sonic forces? Me neither. She was an advance character. She stayed in it. Later replaced by Marina, and then by sticks in boom.

those parts of cd are canon now but cd in itself and as a whole is not canon this isnt rocket science dude and those parts are now canon seperate of cd

were not talking advance were talking cd and cd is not canon sorry i hate it too but i can accept facts

Just accept that blue slim metal sonic from cd gets destroyed both in CD and in Mania seperately. And then mania's sonic travels into forces (and nowhere else), while cd's sonic stays non-canon.

Couldn't you make similar arguments for anyone that hasn't shown up since Adventure? Pretty sure Cream was in Generations as side character or NPC.

That's just fan service, in sonic forces even fucking espio shows up, but no cream.

the entire game of sonic cd is not canon though, thats the entire point im making. it didn't happen

If you actually acknowledged with the source, sonic cd was actually supposed to be a sonic 2 enhanced edition, but didn't make it, because sonic 2 sales were bad, so they decided to make a game without tails in mind.

So why is there CD content in Mania at all? It's canon, denying that is making you jump through hoops trying to explain why there's CD content in Mania without CD existing.
Doesn't shit like
sound ridiculous?

Because in mania sonic in the first time meets metal sonic. It happens just after S1, S2 and S3&K.

Also mania sonic doesn't go through adventure timeline if you've seen the ending.

Then why wasn't Big, Marine, Mighty, Ray, Yacker, Tikal, Chaos, Bark, Honey, Bean, Ermel, Omega or Gamma also attending the party?

Gamma is busy as a service robot for team dark. Everyone else is dead, busy (likt big with fishing) or non-existent.

Why would that matter if its just for fanservice?

:^)

Think again that forces is not a sequel to generations according to Iizuka. Even classic sonic is now mania sonic. There's a producer inside sega who knows all this shit but doesn't put it out in front of western crowd, only producing games within the lore for japanese players who read the stupid genesis manuals.
That shit is too easy to understand.

Gamma is directly shown becoming dead/non-existent at the end of his story in Sonic Adventure what the fuck are you talking about

Well, then i just mistaken omega with gamma for a second. It doesn't matter to me cause they are both shitty eggman robots anyway.

Why IS chaos and shadow in forces anyways? I known they're illusions, but shouldn't the military be after eggman after the whole Station Square/Military Break-in ordeal? Why isn't G.U.N helping sonic here if eggman is trying to overthrow the goverment, why isn't the moon shattered like it was in SA2, why is knuckles with sonic again, I thought he was gonna leave after heroes to take care of the emerald, and why THE FUCK are they treating this rendition of classic sonic as a being from another dimension even thought it's been well established that modern sonic and classic are the game person, are the events from generations now void, did the sonic in sonics timeline never encounter chemical plant and those older levels and they've all been transferred to the NEW classic sonic?

This is shadow the hedgehog/sonic heroes all over again.
SO many fucking questions, either Izuka is fucking US ALL over or it's a whole new timeline with altered events.

So this is YET another reboot or what.
So, let me get this straight.
Heroes > Sonic Unleashed > Sonic Colors > Lost World > Forces?
I fucking swear the only way to make sense of this is to make different timelines.
No way in hell would the exact same events from SA2 take place in the Forces world.
Chronicles as well, unless forces happened AFTER chronicles and it's tied to mania. What an obscure game to reference in a bigger game.

G.U.N. is too retarded and inefficient to try fighting Eggman, his robots are apparently far superior despite running on animals and not Chaos Shards(I imagine Chaos Shards are a better power source, maybe not?) So even if they wanted to arrest him they couldn't pull off an operation that large without him finding out about it. They have Rouge spy on him though.
Complete retardation, despite saving the planet and being acknowledged as its savior they probably think it's best to let the two menaces battle it out and arrest the one left standing.
I keep hearing Eggman repairs it at the end of SA2 as an apology or something but I've never seen proof of it.
Knuckles just exists now, he has no purpose other than to be the muscle and help Sonic since they throw their story out the window the more games come out.
Maybe it is, we don't know what exactly is happening with the story for Forces. I'm sure it's something retarded, or simple like corporate demanding another Generations.

Non dead chaos from parallel version of sonic modern universe where sonic adventure went the other way, or chaos from timeline where mania's sonic didn't defeat chaos There was also sonic battle game, that might be either part of that timeline, or another fanservice game. Chaos wasn't dead in it either.
Either brainwashed by his obvious eyes or an android that's not real shadow and real shadow from modern sonic universe will be unveiled later.
Because GUN is not a thing since like unleashed.

Might as well tell you what you don't want to hear, but as far as i've seen sonic since unleashed is not the same sonic that gone through adventure 1/2/06. I think they abandoned that timeline because of 06 failure just like they made CD because of sonic 2 failure to sell. With the difference that CD did not continue, but unleashed timeline did.

Does Heroes not count all of a sudden, despite being part one of Shadow's arc?

Why it doesn't count? Shadow's main time is SA2 -> ShTH -> Heroes. On the contrary ShTH introduced shadow androids, and depiction of shadow as an android made of the image of sonic.

But that's wrong, Heroes comes before Shadow and that's what sets up Shadow's game.

What if they happen at the same time

Gay.

Except shadow from shadow game accepts himself and only later heroes start from timeline perspective. The alliance with rouge and omega continue from Sonic Heroes into Sonic 06, which is the end of his timeline.

are you guys mentally stupid? i spell it out plain and simple. cd is not canon. it didn't happen. it is trashed. future games can use content from cd and repurpose it, but cd itself is not canon. jesus you guys are stupid. cd is not fucking canon.

Yes, i acknowledge that, you're quoting me wrong.

Wew, you've got a special kind of autism, son. Not only did Cream appear in Generations, by your """logic""", you might as well say that Shadow isn't canon.

Most of ShTH endings aren't canon though. And sonely i don't think ShTH even has the needed connection between SA2 and Heroes. I use to dismiss it all along.

They don't, Heroes happens, and ShadowTH happens immediately after.

Heroes happens first, then Shadow, then 06. It goes in release order.
Embed is a cutscene from Heroes, the game Omega was introduced and Team Dark is officially founded.

Team dark wasn't a thing in ShTH. It only makes sense that ShTH is a prequel.

I mean the character, not to mention, ShtH has a singular canon ending. But even then, who the fuck are you people to decide what is and isn't canon? That's the exact opposite of how it works, for God's sake.

Ask Iizuka. Write him a letter on what is canon or what is not, or what is different time line a~la SMT. I am out, this it stupid and autistic. Sonic world is a great fan game btw.

Omega was discovered/created before shadow is what he implied, unless you mean he was DEACTIVATED after shadow and rediscovered by another android.

Heroes is the game where Omega is introduced, it cannot be placed after ShadowTH. Omega and Shadow know each other in ShadowTH but not in Heroes.

You need this webm.

Yes, because it is perfectly reasonable for Shadow to be just standing around after apparently dying in Sonic Adventure 2, not know who he is, and then find out all about his life. It also makes sense that Eggman explains he found shadow and put him in a pod
THEN
suddenly, he shows up in a pod. Rouge doesn't remember the alien invasion she worked with Shadow on, and Shadow instantly forgets everything that happened in his own game

What in fuck

Even if you assume CD never happened then the 8-bit games still did. Your face is invalid.

Ah, fuck it, i admit i never played ShTH. It was my least favorite game in the first place. I only like sonic himself. Fuck it.

You also need this embed.

Are you a retard? I'm not the one arguing that Shadow the Hedgehog(the game with the alien invasion) comes before Sonic Heroes(The only game with the three-person team gameplay,) I am stating the exact opposite.

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Generations was about a time monster/machine tearing through the fabric of reality. Mania is just Sonic and pals traveling across South Island, Westside Island, Angel Island, and the Little Planet. Very different plots. The Little Planet even shows up in the ending cutscene of Mania. Plus, Sonic 4 ep II has the Little Planet, as well, and the JP version of Sonic Adventure has an NPC mention how Sonic saved the Little Planet.

Have you ever played any of the games? You're either intentionally posting like a retard, or you've only watched youtube videos and gone by hearsay about all these games.

Source?

I'm having a difficult time understanding what you meant by anything in this post.
Am I retarded or are you

Crisis City is canon. Its timeline gets erased but it still happened on some level. It still exists in hypertime.

He's a better sprinter but Sonic is a better long distance runner.

In game that's clearly not the case, though. Shadow is clearly not faster than Sonic, and the story revolves around that. He seems like he is at first, but that's because he was using a Chaos Emerald to teleport, not run faster. And then Sonic learns to do that too. Eventually Shadow even admits that Sonic might be be the real one.

The only things that aren't canon are games that take place in the cartoon universe, Spinball and Mean Bean Machine.

Your pic is one of two robot sonics in Sonic Adventure, and it's clearly supposed to be the one from Sonic 2 (16-bit). Metal Sonic from CD is in the other tube, and in DX he's unlockable (and thus his tube is empty when playing as him).

At the beginning of Amy's story in Adventure she mentions getting a makeover, to justify her redesign.

Metal Sonic is revived in Sonic 4 and this is why he's in all those other games he's in.

By "Sonic Battle" I'm referring to the GBA fighting game with Emerl. If he copies Shadow's running skill, it says plainly that his speed exceeds Sonic, but since it's a handheld spinoff that contradicts ShtH's ending and explanation for Shadow's memory recovery, it's probably non canon anyway.

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Shiggy diggy.

So, Warudo's 8th release is apparently coming out in a couple days

So this is why the game is being shilled, its fucking updating soon. I don't see anything saying that on main website though.

Jalex just said it in the comments of the most recent youtube level showcase

Great way to spread news. Instead of posting on main page of your website you shitpost about new version in comments.
Is there any changes in physics engine itself and should i care?

Probably not
They've long since gone past the limits of the engine
It's gonna be garbage forever unless they move to a less shit one

Naw, it's canon. Cream is canon and she's introduced in Advance 2. Advance 3 is a direct sequel to Battle. Are you gonna say Advance 2 is canon but not Advance 3?

I don't recall why it contradicts ShtH, but most people seem to say it just takes place after. Didn't it come out before Heroes? and it obviously takes place after that game.

Everything is canon unless you can come up with real reasons. I mean I just ignore a lot of the games too, I never got to a lot of the spinoffs, but if Secret Rings and Black Knight are canon (referenced in Generations), and the Advance games are canon (introducing Cream), and Triple Trouble and Fighters are canon (Fang, Bean, and Bark being in Mania), there's no reason to say anything else isn't canon. 4 isn't the best game ever (though I do think Episode II is very underrated, it's not at all the same as Episode I), but there's no reason to say it's not canon.

I understand that first instinct is to say that Mania takes place right after S&K, but given all its references to all the Classic Sonic games, including many that came out after S&K, it makes more sense to say it takes place at the very end of the Classic Sonic era. Nothing in Mania's plot says it's right after 3&K, just that elevator in a promotional video not listing the less famous games, and Whitehead saying that the idea for the villains was originally to say they went crazy after Robotnik ignored them after S&K, but then that isn't the story used for them in the actual game, it was just an initial but scrapped idea.

Characters being introduced in games doesn't make those games canon unless that game is an important enough part of their story to be mentioned
There is absolutely nothing indicating that fighters retarded story and eight chaos emeralds is canon

Characters are part of the story. The fact that characters from them are reappearing is referencing their story.

I always just figured the eighth emerald was the Master Emerald. Like yeah they probably just fucked up or didn't give a shit but I mean it's not a huge stretch.

It shouldn't have to be up to the fanbase to stretch the facts to contrive ways for side games to fit into the canon
Either they do or don't
And the characters from fighters specifically don't even matter, they were just bullshit made up to fill spots
You're thinking way too hard about this user

The game takes place after Heroes given Rouge compares Chaos Gamma to Omega and the fact that Shadow is even there at all, complete with him having flashbacks which include Rouge forming Team Dark. The game itself was released just before Heroes came out (mere days) What's curious is that Shadow is still disturbed about his past and and asking questions when he's supposed to have gotten over it in his own game, so it can't really take place after it. It can't take place before it either since Shadow can barely remember anything besides the events in Heroes and a brief scene of Maria dying in his game's opening, yet he is informed of his true purpose and Gerald's goal by the end of his episode in Battle. That's the contradiction.

One former Sega employee explained that some details and not necessarily whole games are canon, and what is or isn't canon is subject to change on Sonic Team's whims.

archive.fo/Xv8Q6

Iizuka said that Metal Sonic wasn't in Sonic Adventure until Aaron Webber corrected him that he was technically present in a panel (last year's San Diego Comic Con, I think). Probably he and the rest of the team Is getting senile or they likely just don't give that much of a fuck in terms of lore. They also made the fanbase asshurt when they decided to say that the games take place on two separate worlds around when Colors came out after they only mentioned it having taken place on "Earth" before then. (localized as Mobius in the West)

To be honest 06 broken the whole thing with linear timeline and forced sonic team to make many filler spinoffs instead. Only Forces seems to be like a game that reunites everything back together.

I DID IT Holla Forums
I FUCKING DID IT.

I BLEW MY LOAD TO ROUGE THE BAT. FIRST EVER FURRY THING I'VE CAME TO

I'm not even a furry and I know you're a faggot with shit taste.

There's better stuff to get off to than that, user.

user. You don't understand, this was by chance. I was looking fof sonic levels and BAM rouge porn.
I felt like I could jack off to it, and I did! I usually can't masturbate to it because my psychological make up makes me want to be attached emotionally to whatever I'm fapping to first, which leads to sexual frustration, but if I treat rouge like a senseless sex object, then I'm able to cum to her. I surprisingly don't feel guilt/anger after it.
Strange. I wonder if furry is a good way of sexual therapy.

This was an hour after blowing a big fat load to other shit.

What ever works for you. Ask your psychologist what they think. I'm sure it might be a bit more interesting for them to talk about than most of the nomalfag stuff they deal with all week.

What the actual fuck is this retardation. Even for Holla Forums. I might head to bed.

Sonic 1 isn't canon.

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user, that's literally a puyo puyo reskin using the meme cartoon characters
You'd have to be an actual fucking autistic retard to even consider the idea that it could be canon

Memes aren't canon tbh

Explain those two pieces of shit.

Why do Japs have such shit taste in Sanic?

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Sonic 2 was the weakest of all three tbh

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'06's story and impact on the overall series story is very simple if only people would actually play it and see, instead of just parroting shit they half heard from letsplayers who weren't actually trying to play the game or pay attention.

The only reason the games after '06 have such a different type of story is because Sega threw the baby out with the bathwater and decided that it was everything about '06's style and content, rather than the fact that it was an alpha prototype with game breaking half-finished elements that weren't even dummied out. So since '06 had a story, Sonic can never have a story again.

'06 erased itself at the end and then everything just continues like normal, except theoretically there's an alternate timeline that is only relevant because they wanted to use an '06 level in Generations.

Plotholes and mistakes happen in any long running series. Doesn't mean that entire entries are non-canon just because they have one.

Spinball and Mean Bean Machine are both great, but not canon because they take place in the cartoon universes (or universe? I'm autistic enough that I could believe SatAM and Adventures are the same universe, despite very different tones). Sonic Boom isn't canon for the same reason.

Eggman only blew up the dark side of the moon, or at least the side he blew up was rotated to end up on the back. When you see the moon in any other game (like very prominently in the very first shot of the opening cutscene of Shadow the Hedgehog, which is very much a sequel to Adventure 2), the back half of it is blown up.

and now you can stop being a furry, user

is the chao garden getting an update?
it doesn't even have immortal chaos chao, from what I'd gathered on their website
it also doesn't have ANIMALS, and child chao don't change color at all as you pet them, they just suddenly go from neutral to hero chao if you use sonic exclusively
at least theres variations of each alignment's adult form, but i don't know if theres secondary evolutions or not at all

But if an entry barely has a plot and the whole thing conflicts with the rest of the series, going out of your way to try and accommodate it is pure autism

It's barely out of the way, and characters from it have been referenced in modern works, including fairly notable cameos in the most recent game, one which is very well regarded.

Also, I know it's a stretch, but Fighters revolves around the Death Egg II, and Sonic 4 Episode II is about the Death Egg II, which isn't destroyed at the end. Sonic 4 is a prequel to Fighters.

Like yeah, I know, they probably didn't think that hard about it at all. But it's fun to get autistic over trivial things in vidya. Is that not why we come to this malaysian magazine imageboard?

I come here to get autistic about shit that matters
Games like fighters and 4 don't matter

You aren't autistic enough.

Your autism is wild and unfocused
You rack dishiprine

Then why are you in a thread about a Blue Mario Nintendo fangame on the VHS subreddit of a Micronesian Stained Glass imageboard?

Because by some cruel twist of fate this is what I've ended up dedicating my life to and it's too late to turn back now

That would imply that Sonic Team thinks Fighters is significant at all besides being an AM2 spinoff and they didn't have an Episode 3 planned for 4 until they canceĺled it due to its reception:

tcrf.net/Sonic_the_Hedgehog_4_-_Episode_II_(Windows)

archive.is/eaPVP

Yes, that's why I said they don't matter

Long running stories with many creators eventually take on a life of their own. Things that were not intended originally can still work out quite serendipitously, and create a richer story overall. Just look at other successful long running series with multiple creators, like comic books, or the bible.

Tried it out before, and it's pretty mediocre. Even though it has a huge roster of characters to choose from, all of them feel and play practically the same and reuse a lot of animation assets. For some reason, the developers thought it would be a good idea to give Sonic a projectile attack even though he never really needs one for any of the 3d games, or the mainline games for that matter. Also, the engine used for the game has pretty shit momentum and physics.

Aw shit, I thought I replied to the one above you.

This

Why is r34 of Cream or Vanilla individually generally acceptable, while r34 involving both is godawful outside of like 3 pics by Xylas?

There's opportunity for salt mining aplenty if any of you fags want in