What should be our stance on the People's Republic of Donetsk and the People's Republic of Luhansk?
They are, after all, anti-Oligarch. Sure, they are being supported by capitalist Russia but the YPG gets support from the USA and nobody here has a problem with that.
They are faggots using nationalist rhetoric, but so do Ukrainians, so let them kill each other, I'm not going to "support" either group of retards.
Blake Young
yeah, no who do you think owns those mines? Russian commies are still butthurt that they got purged but of cource you will be purged if you're only a cannon fodder
Ryder Butler
How the fuck are they using nationalist rethoric? I mean, they are not really a nation themselves.
Sounds to me they are more about self-determination.
A movement/organization getting fund by a foreign power is different from a movement being set up by a foreign power. They're puppets of Russia.
Justin Sanders
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Eli Brooks
This
Tankies dismissing the Kurds as tools of US imperialism but defending US support for the Soviet Union in WW2 or German support for the Bolsheviks is one of the funniest things this board has to offer
Matthew Morgan
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Gabriel Clark
Supporting either side of the war is retarded, as does not help the left-wing cause in any way whatsoever unless you're either a tankie autismo who wants some mythical balance of power between imperialist powers or a paranoid suckdem sucking off Brussels.
Asher Gomez
You realise tankies are helping the Kurds right?
Literally, Hoxhaists are there fighting for Rojava
Close to it. Nationalist authoritarian state run with input from corporate interests. Not quite there yet, but one of the closest things we have to Mussolini's Italy nowadays.
Easton Green
so who owns those MOPs mate?
Easton Gutierrez
Russian seperatist fighting for a ethnical cause. Nothing to do with socialism.
Isaiah Bennett
nah, it's just normal bourgeois democratic republic. Stop eating american liberal propaganda
Chase Williams
Not Holla Forums tankies. Ours are indistinguishable from just full stop nationalists.
Lincoln Hill
It depends. The Phil Greaves school of tank-ism is definitely anti-Kurds.
Nathaniel Johnson
look at flag in background
Brayden Morris
kek, is that ancom flag?
Carter Diaz
its Ukr flag with their new amblem and Right Sector (neo nazis) flag with new amblem
You fuckers are so confined within your own ideology, so that a bunch of anti-imperialist rebels get mocked as nationalists only because they didn't use explicit left-rethoric and don't want to be purged by Ukrainian corporate NATO nazis
Jordan Perry
Meanwhile YPG gets praised because they have the luck to live in the fucking desert with means of production existing anyway so they can't piss off /leftypols/ band of liberals by enforcing policies that are necessary for economic transition but hurt your feels
Lucas Young
with no means of production*
Wyatt Rogers
I'm a tankie and I like them
Eli Brown
what an awful post
Charles Rivera
Phil Greaves is on unimaginable layers of tankiesm tbf. Makes Stalin looks like a little baby.
John Diaz
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Lincoln Cooper
I was a little aggravated, I admit this was shit but I had a shitty day
Well guess what, I use the flag
Blake Reed
They are essentially "Follow UR Dreams"-types. I don't share their political ideology, but I have mad respect for their will to power.
Jacob Thompson
The world would be a better place of more people would stand up against imperialism in such an all-out manner.
They've been scaring the establishment shitless, the propaganda against them (not reporting on hospitals that have been set on fire by Western Nazi Batallions) has reached peak level in 2014 that even surpassed the agitating against Trump.
Thomas Brown
Are they really nazbols?
Evan Smith
no they are Russian's. Russian nationalism has many stripes the most common of which takes on Stalinist characteristics and symbols. They just see these symbols and think about the victory in world war 2 and the USSR empire first and foremost and not anything about what Marx or Lenin said about anything.
Blake King
OP, or anyone unaware here really, in order to understand these bodies you need to understand the context in which they came to be. Here's the quick rundown: >Russia sends equipment and army/bureaucracy personnel indirectly people are so convinced any evidence that proves this is CGI edits by the pentagon >inner power struggles begin and any local official is replaced by a Moscow appointed shill admittedly this piece of information I got from Vice, but the footage is legit
The main difference between this and the Kurds is that the Kurds are genuine, this is Russian puppet, not just "support".
t. Russian
я уже год с половины не слежу за этим, что то изменилась?
Camden Barnes
Their only socialist bridge (the Prizrak Brigade) consists of only seldom 1% of the Novorussiya army and the communist party has lost all 11 of its seats in the "People's Soviet" due to a loss of confidence. Not the best example of socialism you've got there buddy.