Team Fortress 2 Vintage (TF2V): Gamenight SOON(TM) Edition

Jayden Flores
Jayden Flores

Recent news

VERSION 2.9 RELEASED, LINK IN DOWNLOADS
GAMENIGHT THIS WEEKEND FOR TF2V

TF2V, what is it?

TF2V is a "pre-mannconomy" version of TF2 without the visual clutter and bloat. The only QoL additions is Pyro's airblast and the Engineer building carry. As well as additions of stock gamemodes such as Payload, KotH and Arena

Downloads

Google Drive (2.9): drive.google.com/open?id=0B1gXHJCkdUUOeHpjeXpFWWYzTkk

ModDB (2.9): moddb.com/mods/team-fortress-2-vintage/downloads/team-fortress-2-vintage-v29

Mega mirror (2.9): mega.nz/#!fY1RyLra!SDbXPZn0oevhRtG2HeLuZ-oM1-C97BnyUYP45NYjDuE

TF2V GIT REPO

github.com/TF2V/TF2Vintage


DED GAME LOL

The game has slowly been rising in popularity, and was featured on both the front page of ModDB and their Twitter.

WHERE ARE THE WEAPONS?

Development is focused first on bugfixes, If/when that's all done then focus on weapons can be started. However weapons needed to be coded from the ground up, so unless you want to start that for us then don't ask for something not on anyone's radar right now.

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raymond.cc/blog/how-to-make-a-non-steam-css-server-using-revemu-vup-and-esteamation/
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Brayden King
Brayden King

ded game

Alexander Thomas
Alexander Thomas

What are the specifications for a .wav file to use as a soundspray?

Jason Sanders
Jason Sanders

16 bit .wav file, 512kb or less, any wavelength saved as jingle.wav in tf2vintage/custom/jingle. A dud file is pre-placed where the file should go.

Noah Thomas
Noah Thomas

Sample rate needs to be 44100khz I believe.
Either that or 40100khz.

Jonathan Rivera
Jonathan Rivera

fpbp

Charles Ortiz
Charles Ortiz

Hopefully it doesn't fully die before items get implemented
Got sick of perma stock ultra tryhard pretty quick

Eli Stewart
Eli Stewart

Why bother? I don't see why people would download this instead of the live version.

Charles Brown
Charles Brown

live version

Cameron Cox
Cameron Cox

So anyone want to explain the compressed maps drama?

Charles Brown
Charles Brown

tf2v devs try to make tf2c with a smaller file size and less bloat
they chop out the code and models involving the shitty gamemodes with new characters that made tf2c unique so basically now you're playing stock tf2 (which already existed)
anyway in their extreme autism they packed in so many stupid maps the game now takes up more space than the original 'bloated' mod, and there are so few servers there is no reason for there to be this many maps. the mod also is full of shitty bugs involving the spy and skyboxes. this means that this game is now an official downgrade from live tf2, tf2's 2007 port, fortress forever, tf2c, and pretty much every other tf2 mod you can find

Jonathan Walker
Jonathan Walker

TL;DR version
Devanon wanted to push everyone to 2.9 because there are people still playing v1 builds which have loads of issues. So Devanon put the maps into a format valve uses in retail TF2 to save space. memesystem's serveranon can't be assed so people got version mismatches and couldn't join. Codeanon/Z'Gok leaves because the whole situation burned him and as a result since he seemed to be stuck in the middle of all this. What makes me wonder is who is running the moddb page now and who was running it at first?

Totally not serveranon assblasted
I'm convinced at this point people who hosts servers can't leave their ego shit out of this. Outside the dumb idea to pack balloon race and some other shitty maps in It's just the stock TF2 maps packed into vintage.

James Baker
James Baker

If i had the ability, i would run a server and actually run it well. Of course, im poor and dont have the ability.

Brandon Wood
Brandon Wood

But the download only has the base maps in it? I don't see any custom maps in TF2V. I'm using the 2.9 posted in OP.

Levi Butler
Levi Butler

Nobody Plays It: The Game

Nathan Mitchell
Nathan Mitchell

remember to
fugging download these maps if you're having trouble with the server
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Wyatt Harris
Wyatt Harris

Different user, but thanks for the recap. I'll be joining the game night, provided I finish my project in time.

Kayden Garcia
Kayden Garcia

tfw Vintage is somehow a downgrade from regular tf2
tfw Vintagefags absolutely BTFO
Hahahahahahahaha why not just play regular tf2 but with a sourcemod plugin Hahahaha
just turn off the non-stock weapons and disable the hats Haha

Julian Martinez
Julian Martinez

thanks gabe

Gabriel Adams
Gabriel Adams

I fucking hate this nigger so much. His videos are shilled every single thread of every single game.
There's a million things wrong with modern TF2 and he pretends to notice different lighting.

William Murphy
William Murphy

Why are you upset? There are plenty of people that highlight the problems with the current version of Tf2.

Is this video incorrect?

Cooper Ross
Cooper Ross

I'm just sick of seeing those FUCKING THUMBNAILS
Every fucking thread I know I'm going to see them
any thread starts discussing GTA
<helicopters
watchdogs
<train
tf2
<miniguns

Logan Thomas
Logan Thomas

you didn't answer >>13284213's question.

Is the video incorrect?

Adam Edwards
Adam Edwards

why are tor posters utter cancer?

Seems to be fixed now, ignore this. memesystem is gone anyways now

Easton Cook
Easton Cook

give nutf2 another shot
whatcouldpossiblygowrong.jpg
join game
non-stop bot raids
players randomly being given 10k by annnonimoose haker
confetti shit everywhere
Please come back tf2v i miss you

Henry Morales
Henry Morales

Where's the servers eggman
Help me I'm on revemu and can't search for anything on server browser

Chase Morris
Chase Morris

there are none

Kevin Flores
Kevin Flores

does 2.9 have linux libraries?

Jace Cook
Jace Cook

s-salami server is still up

Isaiah Fisher
Isaiah Fisher

devanon might know, where ever the fuck he is

i know user. tragic isn't it?

Henry Cruz
Henry Cruz

gib ip?

Andrew Parker
Andrew Parker

185.62.188.116:27015

Noah Richardson
Noah Richardson

When the fuck are you guys online?

David Lopez
David Lopez

Some time after 12:00 PM MST

Landon Allen
Landon Allen

You better be on today nigger or i'll be sad

Jonathan Myers
Jonathan Myers

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William Bailey
William Bailey

i care more about the presence of unlocks than actually playing the game

Juan Reed
Juan Reed

devanon MIA
codeanon got burnt-fingers and left
Been fun lads.

Jason Gray
Jason Gray

I've been here and still am here. What's wrong?

Yes.

Should be two/three up. Tomorrow I'll get a serveranon to host for gamenight.

Michael Nelson
Michael Nelson

Your maps differ from the servers
just fuck my shit up

Charles Allen
Charles Allen

Version mismatch again

Jose Gonzalez
Jose Gonzalez

We need to compile a troubleshooting guide for this shit.
I'll just go ahead and re-re-re-redownload v.2.9 again.

Blake Myers
Blake Myers

That's because you need to be using 2.9 maps. The map pack in is both outdated and made by a server purist who failed to understand why the new update is important. I'd recommend downloading the most recent version of 2.9 off of the links in OP.

Nicholas Wilson
Nicholas Wilson

Ah.

Ian Brown
Ian Brown

Which server is everyone going to play on? Memesystem has outdated maps iirc.

Andrew Reyes
Andrew Reyes

Salami sounds like a good idea since it's still up

Joshua Lewis
Joshua Lewis

72.209.202.187:27015
seems to be up to date

Joseph Richardson
Joseph Richardson

Well alrigh–
Steam validation rejected
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Gavin Hernandez
Gavin Hernandez

Works on my machine. Are you using a no-steam version?

Aaron Garcia
Aaron Garcia

Yes.
I'm using Revemu, a non-steam client. Let me grab the guide to set it up:

Here is how to install revemu on windows, i.e. make it no-steam. Technically this needs to be done once by the guy who releases TF2V for the next version, so that the game will be standalone and run out-of-the-box. But anyone can do it. I have shit upload speed.
What you need:
1. Source SDK Base 2013 Multiplayer from steam. ( Just in case: mega.nz/#!AuJgSL6Z!9TatZzJMuSVXUKyRWXbCYq4CWQIUaD-NPmMVCeGIzbo or mega.nz/#!BqISUDRB!AINJuuTt4dV4tSuiPwH_ws6u8VsaGzri-grpfGF2aLM
Hash: 3bb2e73-d2d220-698-8376cd-1abbcfa-6781-0ad7f3e )
2. TF2V from OP.
3. Revemu package: mega.nz/#!IrJHyJiK!-U9fLMW4hTgCFBaYh9xPIWWjx-TmjNXy-C3O09UDjd4
In case the link goes down, here is the original source: bir3yk.net/forum/topic_179/Gonna need full package from 27.04.2016. Then an update from 20.01.2017, it's a single dll, goes into game root.
Start by placing tf2vintage folder in Source SDK Base 2013 Multiplayer, instead of sourcemods. Now Source SDK Base 2013 Multiplayer can be renamed to anything and placed anywhere, I will be calling it game root.
Optional: fire up the game to make sure everything works by creating hl2.exe shortcut and adding -game tf2vintage. See first pic. You won't need that shortcut after this, you can delete it later.
Extract revemu to game root. Second pic is how it should look like.
Shut down steam and fire TF2V.exe.
That's it, make sure everything works.
You can look through rev.ini. But here are the most important things:
ProcName=hl2.exe -novid -noborder -game tf2vintage -steam -silent /help
Your startup parameters. I added -novid (skips into movies) and -noborder (borderless in windowed more, makes no difference in fullscreen). More details: developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Command_Line_Options.
PlayerName=Anonymous
Self explanatory.
Everything should work as expected. Only no-steam servers will show up in server browser. They also need to have no-steam in sv_tags, if I'm not mistaken.
Hopefully I didn't fuck up. I won't have time to test linux client anywhere soon, so somebody else should do it. Ask here for any advice. Linux revemu: bir3yk.net/forum/topic_180/

lost the screenshots, fuck

Hunter Watson
Hunter Watson

And what about making a no-steam server? just replace hl2.exe in the rev.ini to srcds.exe?

Dominic Reed
Dominic Reed

I have no fugging idea.
I've been riding on the coat-tails of the people that set everything up.

Thomas Bell
Thomas Bell

Does this guide apply to hosting no-steam servers? Or do server hosts only have to add the no-steam tag?

Julian Ward
Julian Ward

There's something about adding no-steam to the tags but also setting a server variable that checks for the steam client. The previous serveranons should know how to do it.

Ryder Johnson
Ryder Johnson

Happy birthday, TF2.

Julian Adams
Julian Adams

fug, I mean TF

Julian Phillips
Julian Phillips

well alright, we got some people in get in

Hudson Cox
Hudson Cox

That's because he covered some of those problems in another video and wanted to focus on graphical downgrades made to a game that can be run on a toaster.
Nice fucking ID TORfag.

Tyler Baker
Tyler Baker

I just noticed my ID, holy shit

Andrew Hill
Andrew Hill

He doesn't realize tor ID is always been null
wew

Daniel Diaz
Daniel Diaz

Sure is a lot of newfaggotry in this thread. Fuck this shit, I'm going to kill some Gooks

Luke Rivera
Luke Rivera

If it's possible, could the server owner for the salami server turn off festive mode?
It's spitting out a bunch of red "x"s when certain things happen.

Gavin Wright
Gavin Wright

So that's what that is.

Mason Sanders
Mason Sanders

The server owner for Salami Inc. hates TF2V, so that won't be happening.

Ethan Wood
Ethan Wood

fug.
What happened to sappy anyway?

Jayden Richardson
Jayden Richardson

The server owner for Salami Inc. hates TF2V
then why host?

Asher Fisher
Asher Fisher

Because TF2V is more popular than TF2C and has players.

Hates TF2V due to having more than just the original stock maps so quit hosting.

Gavin Morris
Gavin Morris

Alright it does have to do with installing revemu on the server.
Just– just don't know how

Jeremiah Morris
Jeremiah Morris

Threw a bitch fit about having to delete stock maps he didn't run on his server after he downloaded 2.9

Carter Roberts
Carter Roberts

IT'S HAPPENING

Josiah Evans
Josiah Evans

Alright I did everything on the moddb for installing and it still is not showing up in my library. Does the file need to be a certain name? I knew I had to do that for TF2C

Brayden Allen
Brayden Allen

You just put the tf2vintage folder in sourcemods and then restart Steam.

Oliver Russell
Oliver Russell

Nice.

Ryan Gray
Ryan Gray

Ok, board bias aside I've seen a couple of people already mention other mods that seem to do, or near enough, have the same intent as this. Anyone else play any of the other versions? I hear tf2 classic is run by a notorious faggot/lolcow, but I haven't heard much about the others tbh.

Are you fucking talking about a vietnam game user? Because I'm itching to play a game about vietnam right now.

Adrian Cox
Adrian Cox

desuarchive.org/cow/thread/237339/

Hudson Moore
Hudson Moore

If you've got it on something other than the C Drive you'll need to do this from an administrator command prompt:

mklink /d C:\<Steam Path>\steamapps\sourcemods\tf2vintage D:\<Steam Path>\steamapps\sourcemods\tf2vintage

then restart Steam

Ethan Hernandez
Ethan Hernandez

Hold on, I just spaghetti'd out a guide for the sticky.
It was adapted from this guide for setting up CS:GO with revemu, raymond.cc/blog/how-to-make-a-non-steam-css-server-using-revemu-vup-and-esteamation/, and the setting up a TF2V server from the modb page over here moddb.com/mods/team-fortress-2-vintage/news/setting-up-a-tf2v-server
Follow the guide here moddb.com/mods/team-fortress-2-vintage/news/setting-up-a-tf2v-server but stop before running SRCDS.exe
Download the latest full revemu release here, mega.nz/#!6VtSCTRY!e_GinhwpCrW8x1CeS0IosQvgirRzECNRf-i6jTgxdvg
Nab the rev.ini file from /server and place it in the same folder as SRCDS.exe (./source2013dedi)
Then place the steam folder and steam.dll from ./tf2 into /source2013dedi/bin
Beware that last step, this may not be the correct download of revemu for servers specifically
Next, copy the files in ./tf2/platform to ./source2013dedi/platform
Download the updated steamclient.dll here rgho.st/private/6ZtcgZSlj/f690969e43c1ead768ff767d61bb2885
Lastly, place that dll into ./source2013dedi/bin as well.
And you should be done. Run the .bat file you slapped together from the modb page and the server should start accepting non-steam users.
Pray

Nolan Sanders
Nolan Sanders

19 players in a server

FUUUUCK!!!

Dylan Wood
Dylan Wood

vintage fun is back up

Carter Walker
Carter Walker

your map differs from the server
cp_sunshine
I have no cp_sunshine
Delete all maps
Still same shit happening

What do I do

Evan Murphy
Evan Murphy

Is anyone on?

Kevin Walker
Kevin Walker

I had the same problem, but it was because i had two versions of tf2v on two different drives and I was only updating the one I wasn't using. If you have another drive check it for a tf2vintage folder

Mason Cox
Mason Cox

check /tf2vintage/download folder

Liam Cruz
Liam Cruz

have to spend >10 minutes downloading a 2fort meme map to join server
Why is this allowed?

Nathaniel Thomas
Nathaniel Thomas

they don't have a fastdl server

Carter Jones
Carter Jones

Can we have a plain tf2 server in here too?

Connor Richardson
Connor Richardson

Retail TF2

Matthew Cox
Matthew Cox

please?

Jack Harris
Jack Harris

Take the hint retail TF2 is trash

Gabriel Lopez
Gabriel Lopez

I'll ask again later then.

Julian Phillips
Julian Phillips

WHERE ARE THE WEAPONS?
Development is focused first on bugfixes, If/when that's all done then focus on weapons can be started. However weapons needed to be coded from the ground up, so unless you want to start that for us then don't ask for something not on anyone's radar right now.
There is something I am not too sure about the weapons, if you ever decide to include them, were they all balanced on release? some stuff like the flare gun were clearly simple alternative weapons, but some stuff that is considered a side-grade could have dominated at some point of the game, right?

Gabriel Garcia
Gabriel Garcia

Devanon stated some might be rebalanced. Others might stay as they were originally

Answer is still going to be no. No one likes fucking retail TF2 anymore, only people left are retards and brazillians

Ian Jackson
Ian Jackson

I like retail tf2, I just hate matchmaking because the server composition is bad.

Benjamin Martin
Benjamin Martin

Holla Forumsintage fun is re-upped.
Now with a little bit more better ping out in montana. got 64 ping average there.
74.91.123.198:27015
Also revemu compatible.
Why the fug wasn't it up during gamenight? Nobody knows.

Samuel Richardson
Samuel Richardson

Then go play it :^) retail TF2 is shit. The art style is fucked, the weapons are a balance nightmare. Most of the recent maps and gamemodes are shit.

Ryan White
Ryan White

BTW, current bugs?

Jason Gray
Jason Gray

Only issues with payload. V3 on hold till bugs with spy are sorted.

Asher Martinez
Asher Martinez

The weapons are a balance nightmare
I'm not so sure I agree with that statement, but alright, and it's not like the game modes that have been in tf2 are gone, they just aren't in the matchmaking circulation

Joshua Turner
Joshua Turner

Matchmaking
They aren't a balance nightmare because I say so
/reddit/index.html
TF2 is pretty much absolute shit at this point. A vast majority of community servers are dead, those that still exist are skial or some idle/trade shit. The art style has gone to shit and the classes barely play like they used to. Valve implements changes to the class themself further changing how it's played because idiots can't play and thus complain.

Lucas Ramirez
Lucas Ramirez

Well what exactly do you think is a balancing nightmare? Phlog? Dangershield? Something obscure that isn't the usual things people cry about that could actually contribute to a discussion that has anything of substance to discuss?
Because seriously if you have an issue with the phlog or the danger shield I can only inquire as to why are you so bad at the game because both of those things are really bad.

Alexander Nelson
Alexander Nelson

Don't know if you are baiting or an autist.

Grayson Watson
Grayson Watson

Could someone please check if the Revemu test server is Revemu compatible?

Jacob Hill
Jacob Hill

I gotta agree, no one can be this retarded

Aaron Peterson
Aaron Peterson

Nigga it's a legitimate question
is there some weapon that is really unbalanced or are you just too retarded to shoot a phlog pyro in the feet and airshot them while they're in airstrafe stun or peg a dangershield sniper without scoping so they run away like a little pussy back to resupply

Samuel Thompson
Samuel Thompson

IP: 72.209.202.187:27015

Cooper Martin
Cooper Martin

Almost all the recent new weapons additions or balances fuck with class dynamic just one example is Black box and Conch make medics almost redundant
.

Luke Stewart
Luke Stewart

only lists a few examples
Can you guess what a "balancing nightmare" is?

How many weapons does TF2 have discounting the reskinned stock ones? Do you realize how most are next to useless and there are clear cut "better ones". None of that shit is balanced and valve's "fixes" involve hitting the latest complaint of the week with a nerfbat till it's useless, rinse and repeat.

Vintage at best will be pre-mannconomy when there was pretty much only 3 weapons per class. And even then The demoman is the only one that really needs to be retooled and given the loch-n-load + caber instead of demonigger stuff

Nicholas Russell
Nicholas Russell

Checked. It boots for lack of steam validation.

Josiah Barnes
Josiah Barnes

only lists a few examples
Can you guess what a "balancing nightmare" is?

How many weapons does TF2 have discounting the reskinned stock ones? Do you realize how most are next to useless and there are clear cut "better ones". None of that shit is balanced and valve's "fixes" involve hitting the latest complaint of the week with a nerfbat till it's useless, rinse and repeat.

Vintage at best will be pre-mannconomy when there was pretty much only 3 weapons per class. And even then The demoman is the only one that really needs to be retooled and given the loch-n-load + caber instead of demonigger stuff

Taft can't connect

Michael Torres
Michael Torres

Have you played against a black box soldier though?
They run the second you manage to peg them with a single rocket.

Elijah Rivera
Elijah Rivera

And these "clear cut better ones" are?
Make a substantive argument for fucks sake. You can't just say "oh this is unbalanced, no I won't explain what is specifically wrong with it how dare you fucking ask".

Ian Thompson
Ian Thompson

Being this dense and completely ignorant to basic game mechanics is an anomaly holy shit.

Your home is calling you /reddit/

Jeremiah Williams
Jeremiah Williams

You're an intellectually bankrupt jellyfish. Enjoy playing an out of date version of a game because you are specifically bad at the current version of the game, and not because the older version is measurably better.

Jacob Richardson
Jacob Richardson

Gud leave then.

Parker Ramirez
Parker Ramirez

You must be bad because you can't use items

Brayden Brown
Brayden Brown

I'm not going to leave you alone.
Refuses to state any balance issues for judgement that so very clearly exist
would literally have to list one of these objective unarguable balance issues to even prove me wrong
Won't even say crusader's crossbow/ubersaw despite it being clearly better in the medic set
Mad because bad

Hunter Flores
Hunter Flores

Why don't you download the mod and play with us, try it out for yourself instead of autistically screeching in the thread.

Luis Sullivan
Luis Sullivan

crusader's crossbow
Is this you?

Luis Walker
Luis Walker

It's not even questionable that the Crusader's crossbow is objectively better than the syringe gun and the blutsauger.
I'm bringing it up because it's one of the few givens you could ACTUALLY bring up and say "Oh that's unbalanced it really shouldn't be in tf2" and you can't even bring up the free 100hp dinker when asked to bring up something that is unbalanced in tf2.

Jayden Morris
Jayden Morris

Some items clearly better
Thus they get nerfed into uselessness because a majority of players are shit
Somehow there is no issue.

Not to mention most of the items now make classes like medic usless because pretty much all classes now have some way of recovering health. Not to mention the constant changes to the base classes through movement speed.

July 7, 2016 Patch #1 (Meet Your Match Update)

All Mediguns allow the Medic to match the speed of their heal target.
Previously only available on The Quick-Fix.

Great, now I can run as fast as a scout for some stupid reason. Yeah that's really nice balancing that makes no sense and means basically a medic is going to heal a scout for that speed instead of keeping an eye on his teammates. Again why the fuck would I play a game where the classes are constantly changed because people like you are shit and where there's 70+ items yet only a small handful of them are used because it's near impossible to balance that many weapons without it becoming a massive clusterfuck in the process.

Blake Lee
Blake Lee

Because a fucking scout with 185 health is going to break the game, it's not like you're going to over extend and get mauled by a sentry or a soldier pegging your dumb 150hp ass when you overextend with the flanking class.

Tyler Scott
Tyler Scott

Here are some specific examples, I don't see how it's poorly balanced

Maybe because it is better? Look at blautsuager. not counting the original incarnation, you lost healing rate on yourself but could essentially heal through the use of the weapon. It made a big deal in fighting pyros because now you couldn't really count on your self heal to mitigate afterburn. The tradeoffs for the crossbow are just "no headshots" and less ammo, hardly anything negative. Not to mention you can build uber through healing with it now means you can pretty much never have to even use a medigun.

Missing the point
A class that can self heal, equip a weapon that allows them to heal MORE and now can run at the same speed as the fastest class in the game provided they are tethered to him isn't an issue for you?
Then again you play retail TF2 and see no problem with all the bloat they've crammed in there and the other stupid shit.

Jaxon Ross
Jaxon Ross

A class that can self heal, equip a weapon that allows them to heal MORE and now can run at the same speed as the fastest class in the game provided they are tethered to him isn't an issue for you?
Yes, because the second the fastest class in the game is pegged by anyone for ANY damage they lose two thirds of the healing rate they are getting healed for
So even excluding the fact he's barely got enough health to survive two poorly aimed rockets the health "inbalance" falls apart the second he runs into anything more dangerous than another scout.

Landon Cox
Landon Cox

congrats the medic is now healing himself with the blaut and the soldier is taking damage at close range from his own backblast plus the medic is being healed point for point.

again modern TF2 is trash and pretty much post mannconomy everything went to shit and has become a nightmare of balance where most of the weapons are next to useless and those that are shining are being hit by the nerf bat because stupid people can't cope

Joshua Martin
Joshua Martin

Oh no how will the soldier ever hit the medic without shooting himself
IF ONLY THERE WAS A WAY FOR THE SOLDIER TO SHOOT THE MEDIC, FASTER THAN SLOW MOVING PROJECTILES THAT DAMAGE HIM
BUT SADLY THIS DOESN'T EXIST AT ALL IN TEAM FORTRESS 2

Landon Parker
Landon Parker

Play TF2 Classic instead of TF2V or current year TF2 and you won't have these arguments.

Luis Stewart
Luis Stewart

TF2 Classic is for even bigger faggots.

Dominic Wood
Dominic Wood

See you're just proving my point. Balance becomes exasperated when shit just gets added to the pile. Now from your autistic screeching I know you can't mean the Direct Hit because that's something that takes skill to use. You're most likely referring to the beggar's bazooka which is pretty much what most soldiers use now because they can't aim for shit and thus need to blanket the area with explosives worse than when demo had 6 pipes to shoot at a time.

Balance works like this:
Man A has a weapon that counters Man B hard
Man B gets a weapon that lets him fight on even terms with Man A, but makes Man A's new weapon redundant
Man B now gets a new weapon that lets him act like Man C and heal himself while dealing damage
Man C falls off in being picked because Man B now can do it himself
To try and combat this Man A now takes LESS damage from Man B's weapon
Man C now is even less relevant

See how it works it's turtles all the way down until it's a horrid jumbled mess where earlier weapons fall off in useage or becomes next to useless to use because of everything that changes. This is an issue with Modern TF2 because there are so many weapons now it's impossible to make them work together or to make them proper sidegrades. When weapons in a game become better than what's currently out there it makes adding the older weapons useless. A good balance is outside stock each gimmick weapon provides a unique playstyle while not being clear cut "better" than any other. Metas may form around one specific set up but it should always be able to be countered easily.

John Wood
John Wood

I'm talking about the shotgun you retard.
You know, the weapon that specifically has a tooltip to use if enemies are too close to use your rocketlauncher.
Jesus christ are you retarded or something?

Oliver Phillips
Oliver Phillips

Honestly, blaut should be the least of your worries about retail TF2, it's stuff like Black Box-type weapons and Buff Banner-type weapons that fuck up the balance. Black Box-type weapons remove the need for teammates in certain situations at a detriment to a team blob power, like Phlogistinator, Mad Milk, Jarate, Gunslinger, Huo-Long Heater and so on. Buff Banner-type weapons are the kind that reward gambit strats, but fuck you up in a certain way that gimps your overall team power. Examples include Baby Face Blaster, Frontier Justice, YER, demo shields, Backburner (wew) and so on. There's also stuff that's blatantly better than stock like Solemn Vow and that pyro axe. That's my gripes about balance and if you ever think about adding weapons to this mod, you better address this.

Jeremiah Gray
Jeremiah Gray

pretty sure the solemn vow was nerfed.
And even then it is essentially redundant if you have a spy feeding the team information.
Third degree however, totally agree, needs a nerf.

Owen Gomez
Owen Gomez

And the reason I agree with the Third degree nerf is that it was proposed stat wise in comparison to the axtinguisher and not the fire axe when they were testing, and since then the axtinguisher has been nerfed.

Camden Young
Camden Young

the ubersaw needs to be nerfed more than any other weapon
the slower swing rate means absolutely nothing

Logan Moore
Logan Moore

a slower switch to/from change like the eyelander would probably have an impact more like what was intended, since swing cool down does not apply when you switch away from it.

Joshua Gutierrez
Joshua Gutierrez

The only weapons I can see without a real problem are Huntsman, Flare Gun, Crossbow, and I think that's it.

Gabriel Cook
Gabriel Cook

Hunstman
No real problem
When a qyuarter of the projectile hitbox is what is decided as the "head" region that's a problem

Julian Howard
Julian Howard

Huntsman
let's make sniper have a mid-range weapon that relies on broken hit detection that can pop scouts at close range sometimes, but loses against sniper rifle snipers on average
Flare Gun
let's have a tool to fuck snipers at range for a close-range class at a detriment to yourself if you ever go against another pyro
Crossbow
let's give medic a weapon that benefits from being in one of those long-range points where a sniper could shoot you in the head

Colton Rivera
Colton Rivera

Well, the hit detection is a real problem in the engine overall, other than that I never saw the problem, trading hitscan for projectile and in case of a medic losing whaever DPS he could have.

James Garcia
James Garcia

If I recall, it might have something specifically to do with how physics are handled by TF2 specifically. Certain things aren't enabled for network optimization

Ian Hall
Ian Hall

If I can remember further, I believe this is also why you can do things like hide inside of physics barrels on some maps.

Logan Garcia
Logan Garcia

Medic
DPS
You're supposed to fucking heal.
The default syringe gun exists mostly to consistently deal damage to advancing enemies whose path you can predict - like pyros and scouts, for instance. And in most of the cases where you're caught without your teammate you're supposed to run for it because your heals are super valuable and the respawn times are huge - if you find a teammate to hide behind when you're chased, good for you, but if you don't you can shoot your pew pew needle gun and sometimes whoever's chasing you will fucking die. The crossbow deals about 38 damage at close range and has huge reload times and you will likely often miss with it at this range, so you'll survive less on average when somebody bothers to chase you.

Oh, and when you're not being chased, it's a lot more valuable to just build uber and overheal instead of trying to spam arrows all over the place. You can hit someone, but since the damage cap for the weapon is like 75 chances are they'll just retreat, go to the medkit and you're not building the fucking uber you FUCK

Andrew Watson
Andrew Watson

The default syringe gun exists mostly to consistently deal damage to advancing enemies whose path you can predict
Exactly my point.

Aaron Hall
Aaron Hall

So when are we toggling off spread?

Jaxson White
Jaxson White

here bach

Aiden Reyes
Aiden Reyes

fuck wrong link

Matthew Johnson
Matthew Johnson

If anything, only the pyro should get weapons because he's the shittiest class. No but seriously don't add weapons.
Are minicrits in this? I was playing pyro and reflecting shit didn't seem to deal any extra damage.

Chase Fisher
Chase Fisher

Nope dunno if it'll go back to retail. There's talk about converting it back to retail values though

Elijah Gutierrez
Elijah Gutierrez

For that matter, wouldn't it be better to have no randomized damage spreads and instead have fixed damage based on falloff and all that?

Jonathan Wood
Jonathan Wood

That would require rewriting the code for projectiles. Random spread is nice because it gives people with shit accuracy like me a chance. Not to mention because shotgun and scattergun only get 6 pellets without spread on it's a perfect square cone.

speaking of random, the weapon randomizer I might have a fix for. I can't code of course but on death delete the last known loadout of a player. and then on respawn add a new set of weapons.

I'd love if we could get someone who could rig then to rerig the classes for each weapon.

Logan Diaz
Logan Diaz

Random spread is nice because it gives people with shit accuracy like me a chance

does tf_use_fixed_weaponspreads not work?

Jeremiah Ramirez
Jeremiah Ramirez

full auto projectile gun
not the most fun shit

Ian Martin
Ian Martin

that's still stupid. make your own server then because you seem like the kind of guy that just hates any kind of unpredictability and most likely has low adaptability skill to situations

Adrian Kelly
Adrian Kelly

poal.me/8ub3rn

Henry Jackson
Henry Jackson

Already exists, it's the disable damage spread command. I run it on my server mainly because it makes the damage more consistent instead of having a +/- % on hits. It's also enabled by default in the competitive preset for TF2V.

Gavin Powell
Gavin Powell

Hop on Holla ForumsINTAGE FUN, fuckers

Jose Ortiz
Jose Ortiz

hop in
nobody here
well that was disappointing but at least nobody cant stop me from having fun now

Justin Brown
Justin Brown

ok

Juan Sanchez
Juan Sanchez

3 people on now

Chase Sanders
Chase Sanders

but then 6 somehow?

Alexander Bell
Alexander Bell

man you sure made a lot of assumptions there from a single quote and a question huh?
implying having rng damage values wraps around to being skill based

Isaiah Cruz
Isaiah Cruz

remove weapon spread and guess which class suddenly becomes biggest class to dominate, now pair that class with a medic.

spread is fine.

Caleb Ramirez
Caleb Ramirez

Nobody implied removing spread altogether either, you spazztard.
Just because you suck doesn't mean everyone else needs to suck as much as you.
g i t g u d

Nicholas Phillips
Nicholas Phillips

Turn off spread
It's not removing it

Brody Clark
Brody Clark

2players in server
join
no other players

Michael Ortiz
Michael Ortiz

They're in that part of server limbo where the player must choose between spectator, red, or blu.

Thomas Clark
Thomas Clark

so what, they're afk?

Colton Flores
Colton Flores

yes

Evan Cook
Evan Cook

No

Dylan Walker
Dylan Walker

So I only need this archive and Source SDK Multiplayer, right?

Nolan Smith
Nolan Smith

finally get it running
literally zero people playing

W-was I too late

Jordan Rogers
Jordan Rogers

I hope I can join in eventually, if it gets popular enough would it be a good idea to rent servers?

Nathan Bell
Nathan Bell

Holla ForumsINTAGE FUN is a rented server

Kayden Bailey
Kayden Bailey

but there is no one there atm, right? oh well, in any case I downloaded the SDK part, I'll download the game later.

Christian Parker
Christian Parker

right

Jackson Carter
Jackson Carter

Here's something new I was whipping up for next content update.

Xavier Rodriguez
Xavier Rodriguez

Nigger we don't have any of the primary issues ironed out do not go adding shit yet.

Also we should focus on one class an update. As for demo we gonna give him demonigger gear or can we cheat this one time and give him loch-n-load and caber instead to keep him in line with his class.

Jace Campbell
Jace Campbell

Flare Gun
DH
Jag
LnL
Demo Gunboats
delete this

Charles Carter
Charles Carter

any unlocks other than the kritzkrieg

fuck you

Austin Watson
Austin Watson

flare gun
fucking gunboats
tf2c kritzkreig

Jose Collins
Jose Collins

flare gun
the forbidden fruit

Aaron Ward
Aaron Ward

Casuals

Jaxon Walker
Jaxon Walker

Not yet you fuck

Julian Cruz
Julian Cruz

Certain alternates may be OK, but some of them are pushing it, like Kritzkireg.

Austin Perry
Austin Perry

The way I see it is pre-mannconomy the items classes got were essentially alternative playstyles. The only issue I think I have is backburner which I'd personally revert to it having no compression blast and consume more ammo on use as an offset

Hunter Allen
Hunter Allen

I would rather add only the Flaregun whose drawback is putting Pyro vs Pyro at a disadvantage in exchange for a ranged weapon, if anything Scorch Shot is way less balanced.

Ethan Nguyen
Ethan Nguyen

well back burner was pre-mannconomy you have to remember. Again the way I see it is the original additional items were for alternative playstyles instead just there for gimmicks.

Jace White
Jace White

I don't know about this scoob.

Xavier Barnes
Xavier Barnes

anyone wanna play for a bit

Jackson Sanchez
Jackson Sanchez

new weapons
I'll admit that I'm a stockfag and I don't like it in the first place, but shouldn't other things be ironed out?

On a side note, anyone want to have fun?

Christian Thomas
Christian Thomas

4 people on rn.

Joshua Carter
Joshua Carter

I wish I could but my GPU is giving me trouble and now I am debating how much to spend before having for a real upgrade.

GTX 950
A little more than a year after purchase
sudden black screens with display driver lost and recovered error.
troubleshoot.
Temperature monitoring and cleaning the GPU, failed
Rolled back driver, failed.
Clean OS install, failed.
Registry timeout fix, failed
clean games reinstall, failed.
At this point I can only wonder if my MOBO is damaged (but it doesn't give me trouble unless it is a certain game) or my GPU, in which case I still need to replace it even if it is a small downgrade, one thing for sure, I need a GPU that connects to the PSU, I can't trust these 75W models anymore.

Colton Roberts
Colton Roberts

Where's the fucking cloak and dagger you nigger

Julian Green
Julian Green

Gotta remember this shit takes time to code and reintroduce. he's probably jsut re-enabling TF2C shit

Liam Kelly
Liam Kelly

have any of you tried the tf2 amino

Nathaniel Baker
Nathaniel Baker

social media app
for tf2
tries to appeal to reddit and tumblr
you're joking right? right?

Hunter Clark
Hunter Clark

I did install it. I slowly regret it since then:
You think sharing shit is easy, but no.
Your post gets blocked for no fucking reason, (they always tell no-shitposting for not adding a minimun of 3 sentences with your picture)
If you want to share your art, you must share it on the folder section where no one visits.
<NO CROSSOVERS, it doesn't matter even if it's just a clever pun.
Asscancerous original characters or self-inserts and furry shit are a freepass.
There's a wiki part where you can add some curious details about X and Y character.
<It's only self-inserts fucking tf2 characters.
It's just a downgraded tumblr/reddit where they block you because fuck you that's why.

Lucas Ramirez
Lucas Ramirez

Godamn hurricane, are people still playing this? I fucking hate missing peak hours

Daniel Collins
Daniel Collins

yeah people are. I'm honestly surprised this mod has gone as long as it has without reddit picking up on it's existence

Jordan Anderson
Jordan Anderson

MFW I played on the server with 32 of you diverse shitlords last week.

Xavier Wright
Xavier Wright

Seems things have been slowing down, and no doubt the TF2Cucks are still salty about vintage existing.

Carter Martinez
Carter Martinez

Before downloading the TF2V thing I decided to run the stress test and I can't believe Source can look that good even today, if only hit detection wasn't so shitty.

Jacob Edwards
Jacob Edwards

I wonder if it's possible since we have TF2's source code to tighten it up?

Angel Williams
Angel Williams

WHO WANTS TO PLAY?

Benjamin Smith
Benjamin Smith

It would be nice if the thing isn't hardcoded, mostly the hitbox and muzzle orientation thing.

Ethan Bailey
Ethan Bailey

well again we have the source code of TF2 so I'd like to think it might be in there I dunno.

Also checked moddb another TF2Cuck upset

Thomas Reed
Thomas Reed

come on goys come play tf2 with me

Elijah Cook
Elijah Cook

What are they saying?

Cooper Torres
Cooper Torres

MEDIC IS FUCKING BROKEN

Camden Rivera
Camden Rivera

okay

Brody Adams
Brody Adams

3 people in game

Wyatt Smith
Wyatt Smith

If TF2V is so shitty, what are they worried about?

Aaron Lewis
Aaron Lewis

really makes you think

Elijah Bennett
Elijah Bennett

They're afraid because there are people from TF2C jumping ship to play vintage. Not only that but Classic is bloated with shit no one wants. Even if Vintage meet's it's end goal it'll still be more in line with actual TF2 than classic

Eli Wright
Eli Wright

Is always what I wonder with these people, tons of games exist and there is no reason to not let the players decide.

Ryder Phillips
Ryder Phillips

It's almost like (((they))) don't like the free market.

Jaxson Taylor
Jaxson Taylor

So according to a friend, reddit finally found the mod. seems thought TF2Cucks have reddit accounts and have bee doing their typical autistic screeching

Jason Baker
Jason Baker

Have any samples? I am not even a hardcore fan of any of these mods but I enjoy the salt when these kind of things happen.

Grayson Davis
Grayson Davis

bunnyhopping?

Logan Ramirez
Logan Ramirez

Caber?

Tyler Gray
Tyler Gray

TF2 Vintage confirmed to bury Tf2classic and Overwatch

Isaiah Wright
Isaiah Wright

(checked)

That was on game night. So it was bound to be busy.

By that logic, half life is just an edited version of quake so we should all play quake.

Adam Scott
Adam Scott

I haven't seen anyone actively talking about Vintage on reddit, I just combed over and found pretty much only Holla Forums knows about it. Not even Fagpunch has talked about it, they've been more interested in the upcoming Janitor update for Classic.

Jaxon Ward
Jaxon Ward

is v3 here yet

Alexander Powell
Alexander Powell

Please dont tell leddit.
A big part of what makes the mod fun is the lack of normalfags in the community.

Alexander Ortiz
Alexander Ortiz

I don't have a reddit account at least a personal one so I don't check them often. It really is a double edged sword in that bringing in more people would really help the playercounts but at the same time turn the mod into a clusterfuck. I'm leaning towards no.

Isaiah Robinson
Isaiah Robinson

Why wouldn't you play quake? TF2C is basically trying to do it's own thing at this point and with all the assets they've been making for their own original the character modes I don't get why they haven't just made their own game yet since they only seem focused on the TF2C stuff

Well someone posted about it on plebbit I found the link
reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/6x3036/team_fortress_2_vintage/

But it seems no one cares because you can't wear silly hats or whatever

Cameron Watson
Cameron Watson

The TF2V devs are also fucking assholes
To literally who? There was only one issue which was forcing map formats and that's it. Probably just another analangered TF2C dev or REDchanit remnant.

Jace Perry
Jace Perry

Also looking at the replies, it looks like people who already know about TF2C. The ones who know TF2C that don't browse 4chan/Holla Forums are pretty much going to be rabidly against TF2V by default because MUH STOLEN MOD.

The question is really where can you talk about TF2V outside of Holla Forums or the moddb page that isn't shit and filled with TF2Cucks.

Brayden Reyes
Brayden Reyes

The only places I could think of are not English speaking.

Carson Lewis
Carson Lewis

Well again it was weird when moddb bot posted on facepunch there was positive things about it.

Nathan Turner
Nathan Turner

anyone on?

Charles Perez
Charles Perez

I'll play for a bit

Jaxson Taylor
Jaxson Taylor

I'll go on for a bit if anyone else does.

Adrian Sullivan
Adrian Sullivan

3 people on right now

Benjamin Sanders
Benjamin Sanders

make that 4

Gabriel Young
Gabriel Young

Seems like the mod is winding down. It's been fun. I'll still play with you guys if people wanna but it just seems like it's getting quieter and with Holla Forumsintage fun being a rented server I dunno how long that'll last.

Still thanks to everyone who played and for all the fun moments

Justin Thomas
Justin Thomas

It was a bad timing for me, I just got the new GPU and I have yet to download it, you can't expect full server all the time until there is a very stable version.

Samuel Murphy
Samuel Murphy

True but it seems even the regular players are getting caught up in real life stuff. still I intend to play on and off with you guys. Still even if the mod is dying we beat TF2C in that it died naturally and not from shitty drama

Jacob Gray
Jacob Gray

Who posted this on reddit, please stop

Robert Gonzalez
Robert Gonzalez

Just got confirmation that the dudes blasting it are actually from assblasted's little circle.

Jonathan Stewart
Jonathan Stewart

I wish I could tamper with the code so I could just do some test runs here and there when there aren't many people.

Brody Hill
Brody Hill

well the git is public so knock yourself out man.

I've been looking at some of the TF2C commands and they're needlessly long. I even axed some of the TF2V bits so instead of TF2V_MAINMENU_MUSIC <0/1> It's just MAINMENU_MUSIC <0/1> Less words to type and a bit easier to remember commands. I should at least push the new convars if I can be assed to set up a workspace again. Kinda refraining from coding since I can't read or write C++

Ian Bennett
Ian Bennett

IMO take the base code, see if it works and then change up only the cvars into TF2V first before drastically altering the code. It's the reason why V3 is NEVER EVER.

I almost went to the regional game developer conference to present it there, but I ultimately decided against it with how dead the userbase it.

Sebastian Bailey
Sebastian Bailey

I don't have any access to VS anymore since my trial ran out and like I said the map thing burned me and in the process I axed a lot of the code but since I made no real progress it's eh.

Ian Gutierrez
Ian Gutierrez

demo gunboats

Still butthurt about the war huh user?

Benjamin Nguyen
Benjamin Nguyen

all of the butthurt from items
almost everyone resort to smugposting
Harry Pottery

Owen Perez
Owen Perez

I think if possible you should have it so that a server could choose between having the original loadouts and the additional weapons, otherwise you're just going to have this mixed response.

Levi Clark
Levi Clark

stock enforcement is a thing. But again the focus should be not on the weapons but on the polish that's needed. Payload is still broken as is Arena's hill not being locked for a 5 count like it is in KotH.

Oliver Martinez
Oliver Martinez

What's wrong with the payload? is it acting strange or something?

John Walker
John Walker

wanting a swiss army knife of "muh customization" items to undermine class roles and fit every possible niche and introducing loadout build faggotry, as well as destroying game aesthetic
wanting a ton of either needless or ridiculous/overpowered shit like demoknight and ambassador
Please go play regular TF2, there's a ton of shit-eaters like you still playing. I admit a couple of them are good, like the kritzkrieg, but it's obvious if one is introduced, it's not gonna stop there. Shit idea, poisons the mod's original purpose.

Joseph Barnes
Joseph Barnes

Collision on the cart is fucked. HUD and audio cues from admin use CP properties even when the assets for the PL hud exist in the files. Cart collision needs to be fixed as players hugging the cart end up clipped through the terrain.

Again devanon wants up to mannconomy and nothing past. The only change I'd make is remove demonigger gear and give him loch and caber of course to keep him in line while still offering an alternative playstyle choice

Chase Price
Chase Price

alternative playstyle choice
Fuck this mentality, inevitably pollutes the game. If you're not satisfied with 9 unique classes in this -team- game and want to subvert it with shitty inferior "alternate playstyles", I don't know what to say. Loch was pointless and inferior dogshit, Caber was a semi-suicide bomb that fucked over weaker classes and promoted retarded playstyle. I don't see how any of it is needed or wanted.

Levi Morris
Levi Morris

That's quite the buggy mess.

Ian Evans
Ian Evans

kritzkrieg
good

Is it fun to fight against?

Fuck no

Therefore, it's terrible

Jaxon Thomas
Jaxon Thomas

Sorry mate but it's gonna happen at one point. I mean shit like the kritzkrieg didn't grant invincibility but instead for a limited time guaranteed crits. Direct Hit trades blast radius for more damage and a faster moving projectile.

Again though forcing stock is gonna be a thing so there's that. Personally I don't mind staying stock but devanon has an end goal.

Hudson Rodriguez
Hudson Rodriguez

The game was designed around stock

this is what the game designers intended for, it's nearly the perfect formula. Only a few quality of life things and things like the sandvich (and other iconic utility weapons) added later are objectively better than stock design wise. Aside from that, stock is perfect.

Charles Parker
Charles Parker

Thing is you're arguing what you feel useful versus what I call useful.

You're not looking at this. Take a look at the early weapons before mannconomy. They had positives and negatives that while there were clear advantages over stock there were drawbacks. Each class only had 3 extra weapons too so balance wasn't a big issue.

Wyatt Murphy
Wyatt Murphy

is v3 here yet

Colton Thompson
Colton Thompson

There is one thing though, they have been tweaked over time, what version of the alt weapons would be the "balanced" one?

Luis Evans
Luis Evans

The versions of the weapons in the picture are slightly rebalanced, while I plan on releasing them hopefully in a month I'm still working on fixing them up and making them viable alternatives. For example I made the Loch-N-Load a mixture of the original version with the more modern iteration, making it from a giant piece of shit into something that rewards skill just like the Direct Hit.

Zachary Roberts
Zachary Roberts

taking DH as an example of a well-balanced weapon
stop posting any time

Joshua Howard
Joshua Howard

there's two people on Holla Forumsintage fun you faggots
this mod ain't dying on my goddamn watch

Brandon Hall
Brandon Hall

I'm on the side of stock only as well, but you might want to elaborate your point a bit more beyond angry screeching

Elijah Brown
Elijah Brown

3 people on right now

Luke Sanchez
Luke Sanchez

༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ Give DEAD RINGER

Hudson Allen
Hudson Allen

7 dudes on

Wyatt Walker
Wyatt Walker

medic is fucking stupid

Easton James
Easton James

entire game devolves into a contest of whoever can make the biggest stack of medics
absolutely german

Bentley Cruz
Bentley Cruz

9 people on

Zachary Parker
Zachary Parker

10 people

Daniel Cooper
Daniel Cooper

koth_suijin differs from the server's

Jackson Morgan
Jackson Morgan

/leftypol/index.html

Luke Gray
Luke Gray

got the latest version of 2.9 right?

devanon went with compressed maps because people have been using v1 without any upgrades and getting issues so it's a way of getting people all on the same page

Logan Young
Logan Young

when memesystem started giving me those errors, I deleted the file and redownloaded it from the server

now the upload here doesn't contain the map and the fastdl server doesn't fucking have it either

Nicholas Sanchez
Nicholas Sanchez

don't download those it was a fix for when memesystem is up from here on out all servers will be running 2.9 maps

Brody Cruz
Brody Cruz

redownload entire fucking game for a bunch of maps I'm missing
pls

Ayden Gray
Ayden Gray

I can put up just the 2.9 maps if you need them gimmie a few minutes

John Morales
John Morales

drive.google.com/open?id=0B_TfGArtX28DNlZwRTdUWVF5T0E

THIS IS JUST THE 2.9 MAPS DO NOT DOWNLOAD IF YOU HAVE ALREADY DOWNLOADED 2.9 THIS IS FOR THOSE THAT GOT CAUGHT IN THE CROSSFIRE OF THE FORMAT WARS

Dominic Kelly
Dominic Kelly

I would rather turn stock invisiwatch into cloak and dagger.

Connor Myers
Connor Myers

Anyone want to just like play game?

Christian Sanchez
Christian Sanchez

I will in a bit kinda tired since i started working again.

Isaiah Richardson
Isaiah Richardson

Poked my head back into the plebbit thread and I'm having a good laugh. alpha's faggot brigade is being stomped

Anthony Parker
Anthony Parker

Get frogged, whore.

Caleb Rivera
Caleb Rivera

lol buttblasted autist

Nathan Nguyen
Nathan Nguyen

Was just about to post this. Who ever the guy is debating him is doing a fucking amazing job because it's just making TF2C look like retarded shit

Dominic Fisher
Dominic Fisher

orange upvote
1 point
If you don't know, this is the equivalent to posting a screencap with a (You) next to your name.

Joshua Cooper
Joshua Cooper

from the 8ch thread

So this fucker stalks the developers I see

Liam Rogers
Liam Rogers

WEW
Are you shitting me?

When your mod is dead and your playerbase

Lucas Wood
Lucas Wood

fag makes ebic :DDD shitpost on breddit
posts it itt for guaranteed replies
forgets to remove his (you)
This is just sad

Evan Ortiz
Evan Ortiz

It's less of a shitpost and more of a "I'm so fucking mad I'm gonna write a wall of text"

Hudson Howard
Hudson Howard

i like to believe there isn't someone retarded enough to type a wall of spaghetti and then post in here out of sheer anger then again tf2c exists

Nathan Butler
Nathan Butler

look at what he posted. I mean fuck go look at the entire plebbit thread. Dude is just getting shat on hard by 18feeler. Seems like feeler posting his find on plebbit stirred a soy enriched bee hive

Hudson Wilson
Hudson Wilson

he could have saved himself a couple of keystrokes and just killed himself for being such a faggot instead of posting and telling the world about it.

Xavier Allen
Xavier Allen

Can this game have some sort of time limit and cooldown when it comes to using the microphone? I'm sick of micspam raping my ears. A good team member is quiet unless he needs to strategize or help.

In addition I sure hope these servers aren't owned by a petty, hateful admin like Alphablaster.

Blake Sanders
Blake Sanders

He's part of assblasted's circle. They're all self deluded. Though I'd kill to see the logs of their discord around the time this went down. Of course any that surface now would have to be taken with a salt shaker's worth of the stuff.

Hudson Turner
Hudson Turner

I don't have enough smug anime pics for this.

Luke Rodriguez
Luke Rodriguez

This is some meme bait, right?

Ryan Martin
Ryan Martin

No this guy legitimately believes it

also whats with commie cat?

Ayden Cooper
Ayden Cooper

HOLY FUCK

so I got shown this by that redditor

Andrew Foster
Andrew Foster

archive.fo/6dOAt
archived the plebbit thread so they can't run from their fuck ups

Cameron Foster
Cameron Foster

Commie cat?

Easton Hill
Easton Hill

see one of the guys is a leftist and probably actually browses /leftypol/

Xavier Powell
Xavier Powell

you would know a lot about reddit, of course :^)

Samuel Davis
Samuel Davis

Oh, I see.

Jonathan Jackson
Jonathan Jackson

Is this possibly the Supergoy user who wrote the bullshit pasta?

Austin Reyes
Austin Reyes

whatever you wanna believe bubba

Ryan Hernandez
Ryan Hernandez

Check ID
it's the autist

Guy is mad. Also wouldn't doubt it he seems alien to the fact that people who type calm tend to use the same mannerisms. Faggot is jumping at shadows.

Never did like the feels meme, felt too reddit. Doesn't help it came from /r9k/ originally IIRC. Not to mention looking at it now I've got a picture of a bug with literally 18 feelers/antennae. Still fun watching this trainwreck

Jaxon Robinson
Jaxon Robinson

Wemoman model remastered? The are still talented people working on tf2classic?

Michael Myers
Michael Myers

Can I suggest something for the download? can we have a split archive version? I would have an easier time downloading it that way, just split it onto 700MB chunks maybe.

Ryan Howard
Ryan Howard

if you're gonna suggest alternate download methods, a torrent would work best

Gabriel Sanders
Gabriel Sanders

That too I suppose, I am up for it.

Sebastian Powell
Sebastian Powell

Someone would have to make it I can't into torrents

Calling it now that render is as far as they'll ever get.

Kayden Anderson
Kayden Anderson

making a magnet link now, just have to redownload the archive

David Fisher
David Fisher

righto

Asher Torres
Asher Torres

Also a buddy of mine did some digging on that richter guy, unconfirmed yet but it may be buttblasted's furry boyfriend

Ryan Perez
Ryan Perez

magnet link: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:f3cc61134e9049d1038d115a4a97711941eb67d4&dn=TF2%20Vintage%20V2.9
ipfs hash: /ipfs/QmRnEqXgAmAYRc5PYqH6G4SFa3z8wTzgoa5toCaA8J2Sxg

remember to seed this shit as i don't have a good connection

Gavin Davis
Gavin Davis

downloading now to seed. I'll put this up on moddb as an alternative

Ian Garcia
Ian Garcia

Right something is wrong with the torrent it's not downloading

Nathan Johnson
Nathan Johnson

my port was closed, that is why
just in case here is a torrent file
my.mixtape.moe/ujgveg.torrent

Elijah Nguyen
Elijah Nguyen

make sure you have dht and encryption enabled on your torrent client too

Jeremiah Gray
Jeremiah Gray

yeah i'm gonna shut that down rn. alpha's boyfriend is some swedish guy i think.

Parker Rivera
Parker Rivera

Nope, Alpha's gay boyfriend is Vogel. It's the reason why saying anything bad about Vogel is an immediate permaban without appeal.

Justin Carter
Justin Carter

well i can tell you right off the bat that i'm not vogel lol

Joseph Walker
Joseph Walker

And no one will ever care who you are
Saging when the thread is pass the bump limit
Is your homepage set to hownew.ru?

Whoever the fuck feeler is he's going a great job pissing them off. In any case still downloading that torrent. If we can get seeds going I can easily put it up on the moddb page

Aaron Peterson
Aaron Peterson

new thread when?

Looking at the plebbit thread it seems alpha's group lost badly.

Alexander Campbell
Alexander Campbell

Why? So that you can starve to death twice?

Caleb Richardson
Caleb Richardson

any luck for v3 ?

Tyler Diaz
Tyler Diaz

Nope. I've got a refined variant of 2.9 I plan to release soon, but no V3. Not enough coders are around to actually try to work on it and the mannpower is too low to try and implement any major content updates. I wanted to add the first round of the inventory update as per my mod goals to start adding in good content to TF2V but the response was so negative that I gave up on trying to implement it in. I'm also starting another job in order to continue to afford developing and supporting TF2V financially which means even less time to develop from me.

Nicholas Robinson
Nicholas Robinson

bye

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