WHY DO DEVS KEEP DOING THIS WHY THE FUCK DOES IT NEVER OCCUR TO THEM THAT THIS...

Angel Ramirez
Angel Ramirez

Yfw a dev makes a game that defaults interact and jump to the same button.

WHY DO DEVS KEEP DOING THIS WHY THE FUCK DOES IT NEVER OCCUR TO THEM THAT THIS IS FUCKING STUPID

Ryder Nelson
Ryder Nelson

reload, sprint, cover and interact are all the same button

Easton Wilson
Easton Wilson

yfw a dev makes a game that defaults interact and attack to the same button

Xavier Jenkins
Xavier Jenkins

interact prompt appears on screen
press it
character jumps

Blake Jenkins
Blake Jenkins

EVEN WORSE VERSION
Game has builds and upgrades
Strongest one gives you a damage aura you cant turn off to damage melee attackers
Huge nuetral tanks walk around
Melee pleb hits you
Your aoe discharges
Tank visibly aggros and turns to you to turn you into paste and at best waste a fuckton of items killing it.

Liam Mitchell
Liam Mitchell

talk and attack are the same button
you quickly skip dialogue
accidentally hit npc at the end of it
npc goes aggressive
have to reload last save

Matthew Turner
Matthew Turner

And skip cutscene

Cutscene triggers in the middle of a fight

Jordan Green
Jordan Green

accidentally skip it
No boss is dead time has changed and your allies are now all monsters attacking you
"What the fuck did i miss?"

Ethan Cox
Ethan Cox

Play third person game
Sprint is on Space
shift changes weapons
E is for cover

STOP THIS SHIT RIGHT NOW!!!
Shift is sprinting! E is for interaction! Q is for cover! Space is for jumping/car brake!

Hudson Ward
Hudson Ward

Cutscene playing
Press escape or start
Cutscene pauses, option to resume or skip appear

Matthew Morris
Matthew Morris

pick up weapon and switch weapon are the same button

Anthony Anderson
Anthony Anderson

Controller support.

Caleb Long
Caleb Long

any button skips the cutscene
Also, a lot of people give shit for some games not having skippable cutscenes but I find just as bad
not being able to pause cutscenes
Motherfucker, some MGS4 cutscenes were over an hour long, they had a pause so why can't others.

Jackson Reed
Jackson Reed

is that a badger?

Liam Scott
Liam Scott

What about good quirks?
Fire shotgun
Hold fire again during the discharge
Shotgun will auto fire the next round as soon as it's ready but only once

Jordan Brown
Jordan Brown

Interact button crashes the game

Logan Walker
Logan Walker

SA2
the button to dash through rings is the exact same button to bounce
cue the stage in which you have a straight line of rings floating over a bottomless pit
The dash through things has a pretty generous hitbox but still.
Its just a dog that really loves leaf blowers.

Jack Lewis
Jack Lewis

Sonic Adventure
Magnet shield
Light speed dash section

Justin Allen
Justin Allen

Hope you're enjoying FFXV, OP

Justin Turner
Justin Turner

e
that's a funny way to spell f

Henry Cruz
Henry Cruz

Q and E will always be for leaning.

David Morgan
David Morgan

Stop.
Playing.
Shit games.

Samuel Mitchell
Samuel Mitchell

Tap A to run.
Who thought this was a good idea?

Asher Reyes
Asher Reyes

WHY DO DEVS KEEP DOING THIS WHY THE FUCK DOES IT NEVER OCCUR TO THEM THAT THIS IS FUCKING STUPID
But user, I didn't do it.

Lincoln Bennett
Lincoln Bennett

modern vidya
proper leaning
Heh.

Benjamin Collins
Benjamin Collins

modern vidya
no_sir_i_don't_like_it.webm

Jeremiah Gray
Jeremiah Gray

two distinct actions are mapped to the same button
there's an entire button on the controller that isn't used for anything

Adam Nelson
Adam Nelson

PC game has double bound keys

Why is this allowed?

Luke James
Luke James

hold X to run
jump by running and tapping X
game contains rudimentary platforming elements requiring precision jumps

Easton Cruz
Easton Cruz

3 different keys bound to the same action

Joseph Myers
Joseph Myers

you can't rebind keys
there's only controller keymap
movement using arrow keys
rest of controls are all over the keyboard

Kayden Lee
Kayden Lee

I got another one
game has shooting so using a controller is out of the question
WASD moves the character immediately in the pressed direction without any animation and doesn't smoothly turn him like it would do on a controller

Anthony Cruz
Anthony Cruz

hold C to crouch
hold shift to sprint
ctrl doesn't do anything
press I to interact
can't remap keys

Angel Stewart
Angel Stewart

first person game
you can't jump

I know some of your are going to try to defend this. You're just admitting you don't play shooters that much if you do.

Nathaniel Wood
Nathaniel Wood

play competitive shooter
press Q
no ultimate comes out
I mean seriously like what the fuck were they thinking?

Evan Baker
Evan Baker

The original Ghost Recon (AKA the only good one)
Rainbow Six 3 and earlier (AKA the only good ones)

Jacob Perez
Jacob Perez

you can jump
its a pitiful hop
it serves absolutely no purpose whatsoever
Are there any FPS where the jump and crouch abilities are useful in combat?
Serious Sam has attacks that can be dodged with jumping and you could bunny hop in older games but the only FPS I can think of where crouch can be used to attack is FEAR with its slides.

Carter Ortiz
Carter Ortiz

You can perform sliding attacks in Dishonored 2. (Not sure about the original.)

Chase Sanders
Chase Sanders

Bulletstorm also had a slide.

Jayden Hill
Jayden Hill

You can do that in the original as well.

Adam Williams
Adam Williams

point and click movement
WASD movement is obviously viable
devs didn't and won't add it because they just don't want to

Elijah Edwards
Elijah Edwards

Hitboxes for interacting are unreasonably tiny
You have to be standing perfectly still to interact with anything
There are moments when you only have a limited time to interact with something when the above 2 things apply

Evan Robinson
Evan Robinson

but user, it wouldn't be a proper CRPG/ARPG if you could use wasd to move your character :^)

Xavier Green
Xavier Green

holy shit I hate this so much

Adam Price
Adam Price

Pressing X when prompted opens a treasure chest
Pressing X any other time opens the battle menu
If your character is doing an action, the prompt to open chests disappears
Characters have automatic actions that will make the prompt disappear
There's a delay after closing the battle menu before you can open chests again
It turns opening chests into a goddamn quick-time event.

The worst part is there's a dedicated button for opening and closing the battle menu, so there's no reason for this problem to exist.

Eli Wood
Eli Wood

FPS game
Melee is V because it doesn't hit rollover keys for cheap shitters with bad keyboards
When Mouse3 has been standard on like every mouse ever

Ryder Kelly
Ryder Kelly

quicksave and quickload are bound to F5 and F6 respectively and can't be rebound
there is no interact button, you instead just have to walk up to shit and push your character against it until it does something
lean feature that only changes the position of the camera and not the crosshair

Noah Reed
Noah Reed

cannot shoot a gun straight unless you grind points
cannot go fast unless you grind points
cannot take the funny dialogue options unless you grind points

In 20 years, people will look back and laugh at the damage that arr pee gees caused to vidya as a whole.

Brayden Davis
Brayden Davis

Accuracy is an in game stat
Flawless aim with a sniper rifle can miss
Or, bonus
GAME HAS "AUTO AIM" THAT CURVES BULLETS AWAY FROM THE HEAD AND TOWARDS CENTER OF MASS EFFECTIVELY STEALING CRITICAL HITS FROM YOU

Thomas Baker
Thomas Baker

Only one button to scroll through the inventory, so if you miss something you scroll all the way back around in realtime
Meanwhile two different buttons are used for the same task for no apparent reason
Next game uses 2 different buttons for scrolling inventory
THEY BOTH ONLY SCROLL IT FORWARD

Samuel Barnes
Samuel Barnes

why is this not standard on PC?
You are not only able to bind every key to separate actions but you could also bind multiple functions to the same keys for convince/comfort. Hell even being able to bind as many keys as you like to the same or multiple functions. Not only that you can also bind keys to a gamepad and use both gamepad and keyboard at the same time.

Justin Gray
Justin Gray

dev makes a game filled with bloated context-sensitive bullshit controls: the thread
Assassin's Creed games are the worst about this. Nothing like accidentally jumping off a building to air tackle a random peasant three stories below while trying to drop down onto a slightly less elevated roof.

Aiden Martin
Aiden Martin

Battlefield 1
6 different commands are bound to the same context sensitive key

Landon Wood
Landon Wood

aim gun in first person view
the camera turns the way the character is facing

Michael Lee
Michael Lee

crouch and aim in first person view
you need to hold down 5 buttons in order to

Blake Robinson
Blake Robinson

I remember running out of fingers from the amounts of buttons you had to hold down to aim and shoot in MGS3.

Josiah Parker
Josiah Parker

the same button executes two different commands, depending if you click or hold it

the commands are switched if you're moving

In peace walker, you click X to crouch and hold X to go prone. For no conceivable reason, the 2 functions are inverted if you're moving: you need to hold X to crouch, and clicking X executes a roll.

Jaxon Long
Jaxon Long

How can anyone say MGS has good gameplay? Every single MGS except for MGSV controls like absolute shit (sadly MGSV is still complete trash despite that) the only version of MGS 3 that doesn't control horribly is unironically the 3DS port and even that version has horrible first person aiming because the resolution is so low that you can't properly see your iron sight.

Dominic Sullivan
Dominic Sullivan

Aren't you not supposed to memorize the Qur'an because a bunch of shit is supposed to be divorced from context, or rewritten later?

Elijah Murphy
Elijah Murphy

an entire button
there are controllers with fractions of buttons
The Mario "Half an A Press" autist is going to have a field day

Adam Murphy
Adam Murphy

press I to interact
puked a little

inventory is Y
asGHGWREAHJTRY

Zachary Allen
Zachary Allen

doing stuff crashes the game

Leo Bell
Leo Bell

memorize the quran
Or I could read the art of war and a couple studies on cults and have the same understanding as well as being more interesting.

Logan Cruz
Logan Cruz

scrolling on the map is I,J,K,L

Cameron Gray
Cameron Gray

press the button lightly to hold enemy
press the button all the way down to stab him

Thank you for reminding me, user: lots of faggots never figured this out, back in the day. It turns out it was Kojima who invented the "half O press".

Mason Sullivan
Mason Sullivan

R to turn right
L to turn left
U to look up
D to look down

Jace Turner
Jace Turner

No Todd.
You merely took it from us.

Ryder White
Ryder White

How can anyone say MGS has good gameplay?
Brain problems.

Bentley Phillips
Bentley Phillips

Jesus fucking Christ

Parker Bailey
Parker Bailey

Arena devs
Pic is fake, Todd isn't even there. :^)

Jonathan Rodriguez
Jonathan Rodriguez

I would like to ask someone who played the japanese version if they had the same issue. I'm under the impression that it's just the shit we got for switching the X and O buttons in the west and that they don't have such an issue in japan.

Caleb White
Caleb White

To be fair those controls were kinda ok by its time. They have aged horribely but if you go back to PS1, PS2 or PSP games you will see how most of them had shit controls. People didn't really know what the fuck were they doing by then.

Thomas Perry
Thomas Perry

trackball with mouse buttons 1, 2, 4, 5
game requires button 3 and wheel
can't remap

Aaron Jackson
Aaron Jackson

But then there'd be no games to play…

Kayden Butler
Kayden Butler

trackball
why tho

Joseph Myers
Joseph Myers

I remember running out of fingers from the amounts of buttons you had to hold down to aim and shoot in MGS3.
You have less than 2 fingers?

Jordan Price
Jordan Price

He has 1.5 fingers

Robert Baker
Robert Baker

Any wayforward game
B- is confirm
A- is cancel
EVEN ON THE FUCKING GAMEBOY COLOR!

Julian Brooks
Julian Brooks

crouch and aim in first person view
you need to hold down 5 buttons in order to
What?
You forgot leaning, because otherwise that's 2 buttons to hold at most.

Henry Allen
Henry Allen

hold, up are you talking nintendo A and B or windows A and B?
doesn't matter, it's fucked either way. dunno who was the idiot that made the X button confirm and O button cancel shit in western Playstation games, but they're probably burning in hell right now

Asher Phillips
Asher Phillips

Nintendo A and B

A-jump, cancel
B-attack, run, confirm.

Joseph Reed
Joseph Reed

Because it's far more comfortable than a mouse, it avoids wrist strain, and takes much less space.

Jace Campbell
Jace Campbell

Armored Core 2 on the ps2
Can't change the confusing controls
Were the devs too lazy to make the game harder and instead made the controls harder? Most of the diificulty is because the fucking controls are weird as fuck.

Elijah Cox
Elijah Cox

mfw shooting is the only way to interact with the environment

Julian Richardson
Julian Richardson

Can't change the confusing controls
implying they're confusing
implying you can't change them
implying the controls are what make it hard

Liam Sanchez
Liam Sanchez

I've never seen reload and sprint as the same button. What game?

Xavier Cox
Xavier Cox

Can't assign movement to analog sticks
Whats the point?

Joseph Cook
Joseph Cook

Whats the point?
Indeed since there's really no need to change the default layout unless you have some sort of learning disability.

Gabriel Howard
Gabriel Howard

By that logic, any shitty controls just means you haven't learned to master them.

Dominic Evans
Dominic Evans

X is the most simple and reachable button. Stop bitching.

Bentley Rodriguez
Bentley Rodriguez

The controls in that case do not prevent you from playing properly and are perfectly reactive so yeah if you can't use them it's your own problem.

Austin Flores
Austin Flores

play third person game
camera isn't centered
no way to switch the side of the camera

play third person game
character occupies 3/4s of the screen and there's no way of changing it

play 3rd person game
sprint
camera goes low and zooms in on your character's ass

play 3rd person game
it's a cover shooter
Holla Forums praises it

1st/3rd person game
the 3rd person camera is shit

play 3rd person game
it has a lot of indoors segments
the camera clips through shit or forcibly zooms in/out 99% of the time

Elijah Jones
Elijah Jones

play 3rd person game
it's a cover shooter
Holla Forums praises it
Vanquish is not a cover shooter.

1st/3rd person game
the 3rd person camera is shit
Bethesda games?

Thomas Butler
Thomas Butler

mouse
the mousewheel is overly sensitive, triggers whenever you press the middle mouse button, and triggers multiple times in both directions whenever you actually use it

Nathan Sullivan
Nathan Sullivan

this is dark souls 1, is not so bad once you get ahold of it but more importantly it means you cant go from running to dodgeing without doing something else inbetween
unless I am misunderstanding you this is normal and even preferable and your just retarded

Elijah Campbell
Elijah Campbell

This fucking hunk of manure right here. If it ain't broken, don't try to fix it.

Jonathan Sanders
Jonathan Sanders

MMO has a system where certain skills chain into other skills for increased effectiveness/bonus effects
default button to activate a chain combo is the same as the jump key
press too late and you jump
can't attack/dodge/defend while jumping
tanks that don't rebind this one key will sometimes cause an entire party to wipe because they jumped
Fucking TERA

Carter Kelly
Carter Kelly

Just pirate the uncut PC version you dumb cripwalking gangbanging niglet faggot.

Landon Lopez
Landon Lopez

I did. I was talking about two different functions being confined to the same key, which is this thread's theme you illiterate mongoloid.

Joseph Hill
Joseph Hill

WASD moves the character immediately in the pressed direction without any animation and doesn't smoothly turn him like it would do on a controller

You're supposed to use a mouse to turn, user.

William Perry
William Perry

unless I am misunderstanding you this is normal and even preferable and your just retarded
I think he's talking about shitty third-person games that don't have intermediate animations. As in, your character immediately goes from facing one direction to walking in another, with nothing indicating that he turned around.

Dylan Reyes
Dylan Reyes

t. the kind of faggot who thinks gta 4 is good
In a few early/mid 2000s shooters jumping helped make you harder to hit up close without losing too much accuracy.

William Taylor
William Taylor

all of the controls other than mouse are on the left side of the keyboard (WASD etc)
you can rebind them
<menus all require you to use enter and backspace and cannot be rebound

Kayden Wilson
Kayden Wilson

Vanquish is not a cover shooter
No but Binary Domain is

Sebastian Cooper
Sebastian Cooper

OH WAIT
I JUST REMEMBERED ANOTHER ONE
Game disables a bunch of options if a controller is plugged in while it is starting up
You have to manually re-enable/disable these unplugging the controller doesn't work
And one bonus
LAUNCHING THE GAME WITH A CONTROLLER PLUGGED IN WIPES THE KEYBOARD CONFIGURATION ENTIRELY

Connor Allen
Connor Allen

game doesn't support Mouse 4 & 5

Rebind shit
You have to restart the game

Charles Reed
Charles Reed

game has controller "support"
only the xbox 360 controller is supported
one of the worst controllers in history is the only controller supported
can't even rebind the buttons
the default unchangeable config is shit

William Turner
William Turner

I use x360ce on almost every single fucking game. And you should do it too.

Lucas Hughes
Lucas Hughes

How bad is it if I let you,
<able to bind multiple inputs (up to 4) do one action
<but you can't bind an input to do multiple actions

Henry Hill
Henry Hill

xbox 360 controller
one of the worst controllers in history

Jose Ward
Jose Ward

I've never seen or heard of a game doing that, ever.

Julian Nguyen
Julian Nguyen

xbox 360 controller
one of the worst controllers in history

Caleb Stewart
Caleb Stewart

you have to click the left analog stick to run
you have to hold it clicked and move it to keep running

Jordan Collins
Jordan Collins

game berates you if you don't play it with a controller
didn't actually support being played with a controller until a patch was released

Jace Morales
Jace Morales

As far as quality and functionality, only the N64 is worse among first-party controllers.

So yes. One of the worst in history.

Ian Collins
Ian Collins

movement keys are the arrow keys
everything else (use, jump, run, etc) is still all the way to the left of the keyboard as if the movement keys were WASD
game also requires you use a mouse
It was an eroge years ago.
How the fuck was I supposed to do all that AND masturbate?
Fucking nips.

Joseph Foster
Joseph Foster

porn games that don't make their game playable one handed are perhaps the worst

Zachary Thomas
Zachary Thomas

How the fuck was I supposed to do all that AND masturbate?
Welcome to current year grandpa.

Matthew Cook
Matthew Cook

Get into a firefight
Player character has the constitution of a chainsmoking polio patient despite being a class made for tanking/combat, so I run towards cover
Guys surround me
Try to press the cover button to hide behind chest-high barrier right in front of me
Instead, I roll straight into a squad of 5 dudes
Get gangbanged with lead

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