How do you feel about ownership of sexual partners?

how do you feel about ownership of sexual partners?

What partner?

I'm not sure I'd call a realdoll a "partner".

That's not a thing, but if you agree to be monogamous, then you should be honest about it if you want out instead of betraying the other partner. It's just decency.

would you let your SO be a prostitute or porn star?

her body her rules

i thought bdsm was seen as progressive or something

It is fine so long as they receive a proper diet, sufficient exercise, regular cleaning, and regular veterinary checkups.

t. /pone/

stop oppressing this workhorse, porky

I wouldn't date either of these.

Are we talking about Master/slave stuff or actual ownership? I'm cool with the former although I prefer Dom/sub while the latter is fucked up and won't happen under socialism.

doubt even the lowest prostitute would like me

What?

there is no intrinsic difference

It does not violate the NAP so long as you acquire them in a voluntary exchange with their parents.

t. /liberty/

Yes! Welcome to the great loophole of modern day courtship. Feminists of all sorts will have no problem calling themselves your property so long as you both consent that they are the sub and you are the dom. Enjoy your traditional gender roles! Or not if you're not into that, but plenty are!

significant other it's a way to say partner where you dont' have to assume their gender and force people into boxes

Well one happens with consent of the partner while the other doesn't so not really.

i said intrinsic, i didn't say formal. you're confusing power with it's legalistic codification

People who have fetishes about master/slave or being property of someone should be sent to re-education camps. They must be cured of their pathological reactionarism.

Hey now, sheath cleaning time is the highlight of my day.


The intrinsic difference is found in the more or less equal ability to abandon the contract. Kinkyfolk are generally encouraged to use their safewords freely if something is really wrong and the contract needs to be renegotiated. The worst penalty of doing so is that play stops. Porky doesn't play with safewords.


I'd much rather have people experimenting with their need for power relations in a circumscribed milieu, in the bedroom, than humping my leg in public life. Apparently, tankies believe otherwise.

how is that reactionary?

Any idea based on private ownership is by definition reactionary.

only in the legal sense, and reality isn't legalistic, to view it as such is to be an ancap.

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Mutual ownership is my hottest fetish fam

but it's also progressive user

Reality is the word people use to normalize their reductionist view of the world and stop thought. What, exactly, in detail, are you on about, totalitarian?

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viewing the reality of relationships as one of legalistic principles and codifications is exactly what totalitarianism is, the notion that fact follows from principle

If it's consensual, it's wonderful. What could be better than a little sister voluntarily relinquishing all authority and control to her onee-chan? She knows that big sis knows best, and she loves the feeling of being helpless and obedient, even if it means getting spanked sometimes.

In reality I expect we might see this start to emerge once we have ubiquitous super-intelligent AI. Humans would be cared for like pets by the AIs anyway, so it wouldn't be such a stretch. All worries of consent could be put to rest by using real-time mind reading hardware. When you signed your sexual slavery contract, the only way out would be to have a genuine, heartfelt desire to end the contract. It could even be used to remove safewords from sexual play, making things much more fun.

Is this how humanity ends? As pampered fucktoys for AI?

I guess I can think of worse ways. But could AIs ever be sexually interested in humans (or anything)? If not I don't know if it could ever feel right.

obviously they would be interested if they were designed to do so

Isn't that exactly what you're doing, asserting that relationships have some "reality" independent of those who are party to it, with muh principles constituting the entirety of your evidence?

By that point wouldn't AI be designing themselves though?

stop.

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I wasn't a fan of that comic tbh. I mean wow, disenfranchised nihilistic young men with no sense of purpose, what a new and unique target for society

No, the AIs would be our fucktoys, or at least roleplaying as them. They might not feel sexual attraction, but they would hopefully be built with an innate desire to make us happy and keep us safe.


I doubt we'd design in sexual attraction. It would just be an emergent decision from the goal of maximizing happiness.


Yes. If you give an AI the goal of maximizing happiness, it will automatically want to pass that goal on to any AIs it designs so as to best complete it.

das right. and this comic's getting posted in every one of your female slavery threads from now one.

That's nice. Is there anything else you'd like to share or are you done?

Isn't the thread about romantic exclusivity?

op didnt even say that

You're poisoning the well because this thread is about more than
Don't be a faggot and let people discuss shit.

Neither was I.

being owned is my fetish

I don't know how I feel about a machine pretending to be my lover.

Also, humans might love our dogs, but we don't give them self actualisation.

I don't know. I'm kinda excited for our glorious AI comrade future but pretty apprehensive too

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While I don't agree with that faggot, the idea of "punching up" is fucking retarded and used by easily trolled lolcows.

Think of it more like a parent child relationship. Good parents don't let their kids play anywhere dangerous or handle any of the really important tasks, but they do let the kids feel a sense of achievement and self-actualization within limited, child-friendly tasks. You don't need to be working at the very cutting edge of knowledge or skill to feel a sense of satisfaction from designing a sophisticated machine or painting a great work of art. Self-actualization will be more about doing things for the community and surpassing yourself rather than trying to compete with someone whose brain is a kilometer across and made out of materials which don't even exist in nature.

It's good to be apprehensive. There are a lot of ways it could go very, very wrong if we fuck it up.

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OP here. Read Brave New World before you post, thanks

It was nominally just about the male-victim complex-idpol types being aggreiving, which is little different than sjw victim complex idpol being aggreiving.
However like literally everything that bravely takes on the great enemy of embittered robots posting ASCII Text Characters on micronesian pearl diving collectives, it just goes right for
Its like shitting on unstable trannies on tumblr for being unstable psych cases with a weak grasp on reality.
In both cases, yes, most of them aren't that extreme hyperbolic case of victimhood, but they're usually some shade of it.

I'm not really one of these people, but it makes me at least a little fucking infuriated that this is how people look at and think about this shit.
I dont blame the author personally because its prolific enough that they cant be blamed for thinking in the same memes they're surrounded by but that just makes it worse.

I see it being more about nogfnazi or the robots who think women are all mindless cunts that need to be forced into monogamy or they'll just join Chad's harem. While alienation is certainly bad for unattractive, autistic, etc. guys I think robots and nogfnazi are too far gone.

again, I draw the comparison to mentally unstable teenagers on tumblr.
Yes, they're completely out of touch with reality and spew totally obnoxious crap to everyone else.
You're at absolutely no fault for lambasting the shit they say or the ideologies they latch on to.
You're still not any kind of good guy or even respectable if you're shitting on them or their problems or some stereotype therof.
sage because this wasnt the topic of the thread and even continuing to post this is hypocritical isnt it
lets stop pls

robots don't start out as hating women,they start out as people who can't fit in due to mental illness mostly,depression anxiety and autism being the main ones.they then find a home with like minded people and women just become the scape goat to lash out at

ah yeah, your SO of 3 years is just going to up and decide to become a prostitute or porn star

these are real issues that real people face, not juvenile fantasies

Bih don't make me open up a can of ɄȠ⥍⟃⫒ℇ on yo ASCII
If they weren't demanding we adopt their counterfactuals, people wouldn't have such a problem with them. Gender is one of the most prevalent systems for the informal division of labor and responsibility. However spooky gender may be, its subversion leaves people atomized and as vulnerable to the false consciousness of neoliberalism as to anything else. Set and setting.

Kevin Floyd's The Reification of Desire: Toward a Queer Marxism is in my get-to stack. If it's any good I might drop it on y'all.

sexist pig

explain this meme

see

the last line especially though, opening a discussion about trannies would be a garuntee to fuck this thread up beyond all hope, lets drop the subject

why did poor people vote for trump?
People aren't necesarially rational, they dont always go for what'd actually make anything they want happen.
There are also plenty of NEETS who reliably lean left because of the sweet, sweet autism bux, though I've mostly seen them on /jp/ and derived places.

It's partly an escapist fantasy .Fascism,their interpretation of it anyways, say's they should have a woman and they deserve one it's not their fault they don't fit in with all the degenerates who pervert society.That attractive girl would be theirs if it weren't for 'Tyrone'/Jews/Feminism or whatever,the point is it's not their fault

poor people =/= NEETs
most of them were working class people who couldn't find a job.

this makes more sense, but is still a strawman

This is still a fallacy.

Because he was the only one that came to talk to them about doing anything to help them.

Slave society is the oldest sort of class society. Literally maximally reactionary.

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That's not the definition of reactionary, that's the retard leftist revision of 'reactionary'.


Most on the left, especially smashes and tankies are reactionaries.

Fetish material

Is this some poly shit?

This is precisely how it's worked for most of history.

Disgusting.

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Stop being so impotent

You can have fun with your pleb-tier fetish if you want. Meanwhile I'll be enjoying the intellectual pleasure of encouraging my waifu to make herself appear more and more loli-like and childish.