Series, franchises, and companies that don't have good plotting or writing

Tyler Brown
Tyler Brown

I'll start with Bioware.

Baldur's Gate: Is DnD so it doesn't count.
Mass Effect: Has a meh start, gets worse going on until ending up with the meme ending
Dragon Age: tumblr

Anthony Green
Anthony Green

Starting the thread with dubs is an excellent choice. As someone who avoided the 360 like a furry at an anime con, what actually drummed up the hype for the original mass effect? Was there actual substance that diminished over the sequels, or was it like skyrim and plebians were suckered in by effective marketing?

As for actually contributing, I'll go with capcom:
Resident evil: simple premise about an evil corporation waging pathological warfare devolves into one boring bad guy's obsession with the original male lead, then further degrades in to an aimless mess with no direction.
Street fighter: character backgrounds and motivations become more convoluted in each installment, to the point that bison went from a drug lord with ki powers to a body hijacking demon whose good half split off from him and became a woman
Megaman: homage to astro boy, kikaider, and similar shows gets derailed by con-man's gary sue OC and gradually shifts into grimedork territory with enough edge to fill a hot topic catalog.

Ryder Ortiz
Ryder Ortiz

Was there actual substance that diminished over the sequels
Pretty much. The world had a lot of potential and the first game was happy to flesh out the universe with little details where later games just shit the bed. It also really doesn't hurt that the writer changed just before 3, the writing for 1 & 2 wasn't amazing, but 3 absolutely shat the bed.

Jack Lopez
Jack Lopez

One of the core problems of the writing going to complete shit was how ME1 had only Drew Karpyshyn doing the writing, then the ME2 it was a cooperative effort between him and Mac Walters and that was also where suddenly bits and pieces of the established lore started being retconned or just dropped entirely. Then ME3 just had Mac Walters and it all came tumbling down.

Not that writing was the only core issue with the Mass Effect games, but the trilogy probably would've turned out a lot different if Drew Karpyshyn was the only writer for the whole way through, the sort of consistency that would create may have gone a long way.

Jace Barnes
Jace Barnes

I've always wondered why companies are so keen to give head writers the boot when fan reaction makes it abundantly clear they like that author's voice. 3 sticks out in my mind because it shows how far a fan base will go in cucking itself–nearly every fan of ME I knew tried to damage control the three snow cones ending, and one faggot actually sent bioware a cake as a thank you for such a great game.

Christian Miller
Christian Miller

NEVER FORGET

Aiden Evans
Aiden Evans

tfw no video game about a hot but ignorant girl getting tricked into selling herself into slavery while her slaver cucks her with the man she wanted

Julian Davis
Julian Davis

Cucks her with the man she wanted

I don't get it. Do you mean the slavery sells her to the man she wanted or makes him watch others fuck her?

Luis Miller
Luis Miller

Have you not seen the movie?

Ursula wants the throne Ariel's dad sits on
Ursula exploits Ariel's desire to be with a human and gets her to sign an eternal contract
Ariel signs it just thinking it'll get her a pair of legs and the dick she wants
Gets tricked with the hidden clause of "Do it in 48 hours or you're my slave for eternity"
Purposely makes Ariel fail and then tries to steal the guy for herself

Brayden Thompson
Brayden Thompson

Is DnD
Hardly.

Tyler Turner
Tyler Turner

KotOR 1: the most generic videogame sci fi plot imagineable with the most generic antagonist possible

Isaiah Rodriguez
Isaiah Rodriguez

One of the core problems of the writing going to complete shit was how ME1 had only Drew Karpyshyn doing the writing, then the ME2 it was a cooperative effort between him and Mac Walters and that was also where suddenly bits and pieces of the established lore started being retconned or just dropped entirely. Then ME3 just had Mac Walters and it all came tumbling down.

Drew hijacking ME can be seen at how Cerberus was reinvented from its ME1 appearence and became so important (while also being repeatedly reinvented) that it overshadowed the Reapers as the main opposition in ME3.

Not that writing was the only core issue with the Mass Effect games, but the trilogy probably would've turned out a lot different if Drew Karpyshyn was the only writer for the whole way through, the sort of consistency that would create may have gone a long way.

His planned ending was just as weak as the one we got.

Daniel Robinson
Daniel Robinson

meant Mac

Sebastian Smith
Sebastian Smith

no, make a positive thread

Anthony Phillips
Anthony Phillips

I know this kind of game is a weird thing to criticize, but it tried so hard to be more so I think it's fair. Shovel Knight's campaign for Spectre Knight had a totally hollow story. There's the whole "twist" where the guy you play as in the flashbacks, and Spectre Knight, turn out to be the same person. It was so incredibly obvious from the beginning, I didn't even realize it was supposed to be a twist. It tried so hard to be tragic, but it was just melodramatic and forced. They just throw stuff in with your partner and his poor little kid, just so they can have something bad happen to them.

Spectre Knight is also a gigantic pussy, by the way. He beats this evil kid in a fight, then for the rest of the game he just lets the kid smugly talk to him like he's a dog, and he never even objects. He defeats the Enchantress, then for no reason just gives up right after that and submits to serving her. Because apparently, her pathetic gloating after the fight proves that she's too strong to beat. There's really nothing I hate more than a spineless protagonist, especially when he's spineless with no reason to be that way.

Carter Price
Carter Price

inb4 Obshitian and "great" FNV story

Jaxson Howard
Jaxson Howard

The mistake ME made was focus on reapers.
ME1 goes as it does
ME2 focuses on a new hero, living in the world shaped by Shepherd who is now suspected of being insane, continues to explore and build on the world created in one. E.g Geth conflict is focus. Occasionally reference reapers in a lovecraftian way, something all powerful out there, hidden away, slumbering.
ME3 continues to make the world the focus instead of the characters, ME1 only being needed to establish the setting
Fixed the entire story.

John Nguyen
John Nguyen

Bethesda is numero uno on any list of companies with no good plotting/writing.

No one can justify the inability of the player to expose Ulfric as the Thalmor agent he is, or Little Lamplight, etc.

I'd also add Rockstar, whose idea of good writing is seeing how far up their own asses they can get. George Carlin wants his gimmick back, fellas.

Luis Edwards
Luis Edwards

Don't try to explain the Eldritch Horror
Fucking exactly.

Colton Rogers
Colton Rogers

There is someone out there who thought BioWare needed more cake

John Moore
John Moore

Telltale.

Michael Long
Michael Long

Dragon Age

Ethan James
Ethan James

I can see why the Council races wanted to keep humanity out of the Spectre program. Look what we did to the fucking entry standards.

Levi Thompson
Levi Thompson

Series, franchises, and companies that don't have good plotting or writing
All of them; video games are not a writer's medium.

Isaiah Jackson
Isaiah Jackson

I would fuck the right one and call the cops on the left.

Jose Clark
Jose Clark

Mass Effect was doomed as a frachise as soon as it was decided to not only make the big villain a bunch of giant flying cuttlefish, but also make them giant flying cuttlefish who've genocided the galaxy repeatedly with nobody stopping them.

Making them giant cuttlefish stopped Shepard from being able to face them directly since ME is a TP Shooter with RPG elements while monsters like the Reapers are better suited to games like RTS ones. Making them repeatedly genocide a galaxy not only forces you have events happen with the knowledge of galactic genocide incoming, but also raises the question of how you are suppposed to stop them when millenias of galactic civilizations failed to (see the aspulled Crucible with its Space Magic).

Jaxon Morales
Jaxon Morales

Baldur's Gate: Is DnD so it doesn't count.
It doesn't have good writing anyway so you can count it in the bioware shitshow

Joseph Clark
Joseph Clark

Nigger

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