Whats all the hate with Soros?

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he's a pedo elite

i just got banned from /pol for pic related

are you really telling me this place is so bad you guys think soros is a good guy? wtf

Nobody thinks that. He's one of the ruling class and they're all trash

He actually funded dissenters in the USSR.

No we don't but the constant paranoia of the alt-right over anything being funded by Soros is annoying as hell.

Basically Soros is a nutjob with the money to force his insanity on the world.
He starts organizations with touchy-feely-happy names and uses them to funnel money to groups that oppose each other in order to stir up discord and destabilizes governments. He uses currency trading and betting to make a profit by betting against the currencies and companies of countries that he destabilizes. This is a threefold goal for him, the first being that he makes insane amounts of cash, the second being that countries destabilizing helps him with his goal of a planet-wide single world government, and thirdly his money helps him be able to give orders to heads of state. It's not crazy, he does not try to keep it a secret at all. He talks about all of these things in his books and biography.
Since Hillary Clintons email server was hacked, you can actually read emails he typed and sent to her on what to do with Libya and Syria, and then you can go backwards and read news articles from that time period and see that she did exactly everything he told her to do, how he wanted it done. He's like the antagonist of prequel to a major sci-fi dystopia movie.

He's a porky who funded anticommunist movements. He's definitely getting guillotined.

thats a fairly by-the-book marxist and materialist position famrade

Not trying to be that guy but can you link some proofs?

holy shit do you guys not actually know about pizzagate?!

You can find them all at Wikileaks. I can't find the two I'm talking about, they were from when the Arab Spring really first kicked off.
He's a random one about Albania
wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/28972

The ruling class being pederasts doesn't really mean anything to leftists. So bourgies engage in extreme decadent hedonism at the expense of others? Color me fucking surprised friendo.

rt.com/usa/355639-soros-clinton-albania-wikileaks/

eh, source on that silver chick?

and it's in the proles' best interests to kill the rich, so why is it morally wrong for them to "act in their own self interest" be violent towards them?

Never change Holla Forums

Read the thread.

how do you even navigate the internet being that illiterate?

He was also fucking her, connected to her long before her campaign.

Anyone have that pic showing that Soros operated to undermine the soviets?

got a source on that? sounds pizza-gate tier

Soros is literally just a porky who funds NGOs.

Holla Forums conspiracies about Soros are, ironically or not, taken almost verbatim from Benjamin Netanyahu’s own playbook. Hating Soros is Zionist, tbh.

There is a video around of her helping him with his charities when she was first lady. It was probably pol's favorite Soros video this past year. If i remember correctly the video played during a Charlie Rose interview.

I was joking about the fucking, but hey her and Bill have a "political" marriage obviously and she has to be getting off somewhere, so why not that old crusty raisin?

dunno.. i found these on /cyberpunk

Doesnt surprise leftists? Are you fucking gidding me.. are you just acting too cool?

Or is like pedophile consider just another sexual orientation to you?

youtube.com/watch?v=UZPCp8SPfOM
fucking research it yourself before just believing it sounds made it.. which it does.. but a large part of it is true

george soros black mails other members of the elite by video taping them have sex with little kids, not to mention hes at the center of an operation to steal children's blood to make old rich people look and feel younger

how is libertarianism perceived on this board?

Look at his flag.

OH PSST! HE IS JUST SOME DUDE WHO FUNDS CRAZY ORGANISATIONS AND DISTRIBUERES THE POLITICAL ECOSYSTEM! DONT MIND HIM, HE JUST WANTS MONEY

Wew, this place is retarded.

yeah but the "political marriage" rumors all center on her being gay anyway

Take off your confirmation goggles.

1. you should probably spoiler that image on this board
2. I'm sorry and I don't mean to attack you but I'm definitely not going to get my information from a joe rogan video

Didn't misrepresent shit, commie

The problem with the belief that he wants certain political aims is he is consistently inconsistent in who he supports. He made money devaluing currency and thriving on chaos. He generally seems to try and devalue currency and organize his own brand of political chaos, he supported fascists in the Ukraine and run of the mill liberals here and neoliberalism in a few random third world countries. Obviously he wants world wide communism…

we're not sperging out like you because we already hate all rich people, dipshit

Learn to read.

cool. could you post the set, or link me to the thread? (if it's still up)

thanks!

He just said there's no proof of Trump getting Russian money, that might be true, but when I looked there seemed to be a lot of suspicions regarding ties to Russian organised crime and money laundering.

Does the interview give solid sources for the stuff you mentioned?

Do you mean don't tread on me libertarianism? Not well. You should read c4ss if you're a libertarian. Carson especially.

Jesus fuck do not start that dumb shit here. Porkies fuck kids in their dungeons, not from a fucking pizza restaurant.

That makes sense :^)

xD

Sound like a fucking old cunt to me, why try to make him sound "not that bad"?
It's really just "OH BOY, Holla Forums HATES THIS GUY SO WE HAVE TO ARGUE FOR HIM BEING NOT SO BAD/GOOD"

Take off your confirmation goggles.

If I gave that impression I'm sorry. He is bad, but I think he is bad among other terrible rich fuckers. I wouldn't shed a tear if he died or went to jail. My problem is more Holla Forums acting like he is unique or special when really he is a common occurrence in the current economic system.

he literally undermined communism actively by funding dissident groups behind the iron curtain

we have just as much right to be angry at him as you are we just aren't gigantic autists and we know that porky gonna porky

No!

Good. Well Holla Forums is Holla Forums and meme culture is strong, so he just became a meme there.

Well, glad you guys want him dead.

didnt know anyone took those seriously.. tbh whoever it is just sounds like some edgy kid.. i think if members of the elite are kidnapping little children a person would want to know about it, but whatever

whats wrong with joe rogan?!

hes not right about everything but just because hes a cage fight commentator doesnt mean his podcasts arent great.. if you think he's racist or whatever he has plenty of different viewpoints from different guests on and the one i linked is outrageously awesome even if i dont share alex's unwavering support of trump

i think the Russian stuff is all bs but joe also just had an ex CIA guy that said it was real on the other day as well so theres that.. but the video doesnt give specific sources, it just has a lot of good starter info and some pretty good insight by alex and joe and eddie

alex isnt to be trusted 100 percent but hes a useful resource no matter how you look at it

Dont tread on my libertarianism? Why would anyone want to give up their own freedom? Especially when it comes to self defense and guns.. and vices.. and business…

twitter.com/Khanoisseur/status/817982670277746688
Doesn't shuffle the neurons at all?

Which is exactly why right libertarianism is unappealing. How do you avoid it turning into vicious capitalism with captains of industry gunning down striking workers and all?

Our mental visions of libertarian society are probably quite different. I suggest reading Carson (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Carson) and c4ss's (c4ss.org ) stuff. Perhaps looking into the American labour movement too.

my stance against rogan is not a moralistic one

he's just kind of gullible, is introduced often to way more topics than someone of his intelligence would naturally be able to fully comprehend and process, and naturally comes to some really incorrect and downright bizarre conclusions

he's a nice enough guy he's just really gullible and has been introduced to just enough kind-of-smart people to start thinking he's one of them, but his ideas and his philosophy is high school tier

ill check it out

like i get it if you think some libertarians come off as aggressive or something but what exactly is it that leftists dont like about it?

i guess guns are separate issue and i dont have the time or energy right now for it but yeah i consider it a right to defend yourself and play with guns

i like socialism to and currently am residing in a socialist country getting paid to go to school, i just value freedom first always and socialism allows me freedom right now but i wouldnt ever want policies to inhibit my success in the future.. for example right now there is an almost unlimited amount of ways to make money independently with the internet and freedom of communication and information

i mean if i had to spell it out i would want society to be as free as possible and only have special rules be enforced within city limits and make business as simple as possible and have a fair, flat tax that gives people a national income of like 800 euros or something like that

he's smart enough to run a successful podcast, be a standup, and work part time as a commentator.. his real strength is talking and idk i think he probably sucks at math but hes put together 1000 episodes of a kick ass show

what do you think his bizarre conclusions are? i think he goes back and forth and evolves over time just like everyone

and if its something about psychedelics at least have some experience of your own if youre going to judge a person on that.. taking dmt, lsd, mushrooms and whatever else can be really powerful and its almost impossible comprehend sober

I think you've confused disagreement with anger, libertarians just have conclusions that are formed from incredibly different moral and philosophical axioms from leftists, and ones that leftists consider simplistic and childish to be blunt about it

no offense but I very much doubt that the "socialist" county you reside in isn't just a typical capitalist country with some social democratic reforms

yeah its exactly that.. but you can get money for doing nothing or studying which is a lot different than US.. i would say better but idk about long term

the only downside is the nanny state bs and the fact that a lot of people here take pride in having the government involved in their personal life and idk i just find that creepy although i havent had any major problems on my own yet.. but i couldnt imagine staying here forever

For me: seemingly inevitable wageslavery and arbitrary property rights.

To quote Marx 'Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary.'

Socialism isn't about the government doing stuff, it's about the workers controlling the means of production. c4ss and Carson aren't exactly

It isn't; that's the stated goal of Marxism. You should merely realize that capitalism is your enemy, not individual capitalists. Otherwise you'll end up as one of these dumbfuck Market "Socialists" and just have the workers exploit themselves in coops instead of destroying the system as a whole.

Intelligence is a very nebulous topic to begin with and he's clearly good at a great many things. But I'm sorry I'm just not willing to pull punches on the fact that both his fundamental assumptions and derived conclusions are so often bizarre and naive

And yes, I have experience with psychedelics and other drugs, so it is not a bias regarding some taboo on drugs

I could go on and on about really specific and precise disagreements I have with his fundamental philosophy and outlook, and even a cursory google search on a surprising number of topics he has covered will bring up dozens of experts on the field listing all their grievances and their educated opinion that he doesn't even understand the base point he is arguing at the most fundamental level, but that would take considerable time and effort and would assume some basic understanding of the background literature, so instead I'll say that he's had some silly conclusions that the average person would even find to be nonsense.

Like bragging about how drugs make him a "better driver", or being a moon landing denier relying heavily on gish gallop (a favorite bad argumentation technique of his second only to his "asking questions" technique where he makes some unsubstantiated claim then divorces himself from it so he's not responsible for answering for it), or his obvious parroting of pseudoscience and rambling about "toxins" in things like coffee that have no basis in fact or science whatsoever and ends up pushing some obviously scammy solution.

I suggest you read more into actual socialist theory. You seem like a nice enough and open minded kind of guy so I'll just say that while socialists consider this "nanny state" type policy to be better at least than neoliberalism or right wing free market policies, they think that in the long run they're just a harmful bandaid on capitalism that can lead to bigger problems down the road.

youtube.com/watch?v=ysZC0JOYYWw

you should probably watch this, it's beginner friendly

I think youre getting lost in the details.. the dude has had like 400 people on his podcast, you cant expect him to be an expert on everything. He just talked about the moon landing thing with alex on his last podcast to and admitted the confusion because NASA did shoot some of the pictures in a studio and told the public they were real.

Joe is a master at conversation and one of the best professional talkers on the internet. 3 different complex types of paid talking with tens of millions of individual viewers/listeners; I would certainly consider that to be a kind of intelligence but what do I know.

Ehh sounds creepy and complicated and like if you worked really hard to make some product the workers would just fuck it up because they control production or whatever.. and what about independent contractors and products you make yourself, but thats just like my opinion man.

yeah okay ill check it out but tbh im not even that interested in actual socialism from everything ive heard already it sounds authoritarian and gross, but ill check it out sometime..

my opinion is that capitalism and freedom in general is good because you can become wealthy and attain agency pretty easily now to but its always important to give people about 800 euros a month and make affordable housing, food, and healthcare available, and avoid the problems I encountered in The States.

you shouldn't learn about ideas only to agree with them

if you're going to have a nuanced and defensible position on a topic you should at least know about the topic first

i want my t w o d o l l a r s

What if you work really hard to make some product and capitalists cut corners to save costs? Or the capitalist factory fucks it up because of private ownership of the means of production?
Carson and the c4ss guys are marketfags. You'll probably like their stuff.

But it's about having greater control over your life. Why should your workplace be a dictatorship?

I don't really agree with this. If becoming wealthy is easy then why are so many people not wealthy?

my problem, and why I debated even sending a response at the risk of sounding hostile depending on how much you liked the guy, is that he alarmingly appears to be an expert on so little that it amounts to intellectual malpractice to so strongly advocate for his badly researched opinions on so many topics. I'm not saying not to watch his videos if you find them entertaining, but I strongly encourage you to do even some basic research on the topic he's discussing outside of the video because I can promise you that a very large percentage of the time he's not only misinformed but actively peddling misinformation

You people live several layers of fantasy away from reality

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He paid a lot of money to see communism brought down

Or does your definition of right wing now include the USSR? How fucking convenient

Fuck off back to europe and take your dumb racecuck bs with you if you care so much. Go be a nazi there for all I care it's no skin off my back

That post didn't say he was right wing. Read the whole thread.

twitter.com/theonion/status/793831296455761920?lang=en

This is how people like Soros really feel about dumb classcucks like you getting worked up about how "left/right wing" they are. We're not saying he's right wing, we're saying politics is an investment for him and he's not the partisan you think he is

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Since so many leftists campaign for more non-white immigration into Europe, that's clearly not true.

Why on Earth would we do that?

well that's your problem once you get there