The great debate

paladins vs overwatch

battleborn

Paladins is free and Overwatch isn't so Paladins gets my vote.

Battleborn.

They're shit. Just like this thread.

LOL

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Neither
Just go back to playing other genres and wait for someone to do it right

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I never had to pay any money to play Paladins, although it does has a lot of glitches, but I'd rather deal with that than pay money for the same repetitive experience.
What's up with Willo and Drogoz? highest dps in the game?

Overwatch has better girls

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wich wud u rathr have:
1) leukeimea
2) bone canser

I played both, none of them really, Paladins have horrendous hitboxes and poor variety of levels, Overwatch has terrible balances and agenda driven developing, stick to something else, if I could I would make my own class shooter… I think I will.

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It shits all over Overwatch in practically every single department but fuck Paladins anyway.
I used to main the jumping fox dude with the potion launcher. Had massive amounts of fun and raped everyone because his launcher was god-tier as long as you knew how to use it
Then the niggers nerfed him to the ground because the single-digit IQ playerbase couldn't be arsed with learning how to counter a good player with him

Pissed off and left. The fucking retards are still calling for EVEN MORE damage nerf!
A game that nerfs everything just to please the bad players can go fuck itself.

Digits.

I stopped playing it because I was getting sick and tired of trying to max out shitty characters just to play competitive. It was bad enough to play with bots at the beginning, but having to go through multiple levels playing with retards on casual mode? Fuck that shit. One of the games I just got fucking bored and decided to go Ying for full OP, and ended up getting a higher score than any four players on the damn queue combined. When snake dude came out, I had a team so retarded that I had to literally solo the entire enemy side - and still one, because this arena shooter bullshit is casual shit that even people with reflexes as shitty as mine can dominate in.

It's leagues better than what I've seen of Overwatch, but fuck giving Blizzard a single dollar to play their fucking game.

If you play Paladins you have autism. If you play Overwatch you're a chromosome hoarder and you should kill yourself.

They both suck, but Blizzard has made nothing but garbage for their entire lifespan as a company.

Wait, did you manage to enter a competitive match? I never did.

No. I got around to leveling up the Flank characters when I got bored. It wasn't as bad with the Supports and Tanks because I could carry a team pretty reliably when playing most of those roles, but it's hard to be a good flank (and actually flank) when your team are retards who don't stand on the fucking point. And then trying to stand on the point while playing a flank is a pain in the ass, especially with no support.

The BRs also made me want to kill myself. They really are the shittiest players in the world. Even the Russians and French aren't that bad.

Would have been Paladongs if their single most fun character wasn't castrated and made into a back line grumpy bomb dispenser for flanks to shit on.

Bomb King is too good for HiRez.

Bomb King annoyed me, but he wasn't hard to kill. I spent one game that I already marked off as a loss (BRs) actively targeting a Bomb King player without regard to anything else, just to be an asshole.

The most fun I ever had in the game, though, was two games in a row as the sniper girl, and going up against the same player (also the sniper girl) twice in a row. He wasn't a bad player, either, which made things really exciting.

and yet people kept saying the only good flanker was McReaper.

I only played Paladins for a little bit a few months ago, but I had to stop almost immediately. I don't know what specific kind of retardation led the playerbase to believe that every single map was Deathmatch, but after 4 or 5 straight games of constantly telling people to get on the fucking point/cart and being ignored I fucking had it.

At least in Overwatch I never got full teams of people completely fucking ignoring objectives. Paladins was more fun than Overwatch when I had a good team, but good teams were much rarer in Paladins than in Overwatch.

Edgelord was fucking shit, and the people who played him were shit. Skye was never as broken as retards said she was, but her and Evie were certainly better at it. The big musclehead they added on with the tight outfit was also good for his resilience - and the fact that I could at least put his fatass on the point and still squeak out a win if my team was actually retarded.

The real thing that most people never seemed to fucking get was the importance of the Mount Speed boost. Especially for Tanks. The good part about the upgrades was that I could always check them at the start of the battle and tell who was going to win the game just on the basis of what things got chosen.


That's because it's F2P. That means Paladins gets the BRs and other retards. But paying Blizzard just to keep retards away? It could be $5 and it still wouldn't be worth it.

Evie got nerfed before I was able to play her to her full potential, Buck needed some buffs, the only problem I have with Skye is how she can instantly unload her weapon with no delay after becoming visible.

I got myself the founder's pack after a while, but right now I have the game uninstalled, I hope in a few months it gets real hitboxes.

Doubt that's ever gonna happen.

Funfact: Overshit regularly goes on sale on Hueland so the game is STILL rife with brazilian apes

A loaded gun to the temple

Shit taste confirmed.

Theyre both pretty shitty and can't think of a reason to ever play either again

I vote Overwatch. Paladins isn't just f2p cancer, but it's such a direct ripoff of Overwatch that an actual court case could be make against it in a lawsuit.

Overwatch, purely because I fucking loathe Hi-Rez.

Blizzard games have an absurd amount of polish. Do you even know what polish is?

Bullshit,10+ million people own it on PC, and the user base is just as if not more retarded

A person that was born in Poland?

Neither? Jesus they're both garbage.

Paladins is actually balanced for skill, Ult's arent always Insta Kills and won't make/break the match, and Assists are counted as Assists, not kills, like in OW.

Also its free. literally no excuse.

also Skye >>> the entire nude SFM collection of OW girls

It's almost as if LowRez knows their target audience.

Why are you still in this template thread and why hasn't it been deleted yet?

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I played OW and it is shit so I will say Paladins because it is free. No matter how shit it is it will be less shit because of that.

How come Holla Forums only has threads about shit games?

It's summer.
and Overwatch threads are becoming a regular thing since they can't figure out nobody fucking likes them

Still template thread for garbage games you idiot.

Henceforth, shall it be called OverPozz or PozzWatch?

I have only one complain on Paladis, aiming is optional, hitboxes are too generous.

No.

If you play either you're faggot in dire need of a good bogging.

But there is one.

The same thing happened to my main because shitters couldn't hide behind a tree or a rock so they nerfed her ult into complete irrelevance.

I play Overwatch because I got peer pressured into buying it by friends. I hate it a bit more every time I play, but I enjoy playing games with friends so I play it anyway.
It was either this or play PUBG or DoTA2 with them so whatever. At least it was on sale.

That new Widowmaker swimsuit skin, god damn.

Oh, yeah, that's true. My bad.

Imagine the shitstorm if a non-(((diverse))) game added a bikini skin for a sexy female character

You don't deserve to post on this board.

This looks like a ps2 game.

Also, it appears they released Doomfist and these outfits around the release time-frame of lawbreakers.

Crafty cunts.

since Doomfist release a lot of people including me have gotten low frame rate issues, I used to have 120FPS uncapped and 75FPS display-based, currently the game gets down to 20FPS or less, specially on team fights, the only thing I can play with relative safety is Lucio Ball.

Go back to reddit or tumblr or whatever, just not here.

A genie is neither an arab or a nigger

damn, got more of this?
reverse searching does nothing

Maybe she identifies as a green arab genie or some shit like that.


Overwatch Summer Games 2017 Widowmaker Skin

sweet deal, it ain't easy when you don't play the game

Blizzard has been doing that to it's competitors since the beginning of wow.

It's a matter of how much money you're willing to spend as well as how much you value team coordination vs individual effect.

Paladins is free, except not really. A crap ton of skins, the good ones of course, is locked behind a paywal you're not gonna bypass without spending cash.
Blizzard charges you for the game but at least you can get all cosmetics just from playing the game.
Being free also means that everyone can have a shot at it, especially those that can't buy Overwatch. Prepare for waves upon waves of russians and BRs.
Also cheaters, since the only consequence for cheating is making a new account (although I don't recall seeing many of these).
To complement the cashop, there's a "progression" in the game in the form of an internal currency to unlock things and cards to get for each character, which means you're gonna have to unlock characters instead of starting with them all and you're gonna have to grind shit to make them viable.

In terms of "just how much can I affect a match vs how much I must work with my team?", Paladins favours a bit everyone just doing your thing. Healers, Tanks and other assorted roles are still present but they aren't strictly necessary since everyone can heal on their own, especially with the multitude of ways to do so besides the natural regeneration. You're supposed to go in, kill people, push objectives and just do your thing, maybe help other people sometimes,

Overwatch however is entirely different. If you try to lone wolf, you're gonna be a liability and the game will become 5v6 very fast. Overwatch is designed around cooperation and coordination and if you ignore that, you're gonna die all the time, barely putting a dent on the enemy team. Tanks have to rely on Offense for consistent damage, Flankers have to rely on their team to act as distractions and coordinate their attacks and Supports have to worry about their own even more than the oposing team.

It's 2 different flavours of gameplay that aren't that far away to be honest. Even in Paladins, if you go 1v2 against decent players, you're gonna get shat on but you got a lot more leeway in what you can get away with when you're not working with your team. If you prefer that kind of stuff, stick with Paladins, but if you like well defined roles and combining tactics with the rest of your team, playing as much with them as with the enemy team, Overwatch is a better pick.

Finnaly there's the gameplay flow of every match. Overwatch has Ultimates that define the game and change how it goes. The better a player is at performing their role, the faster his ultimate will charge and the more uses he'll get out of this. It's not uncommon for good players to get 3-4 times the use of their ultimates that new players get.
However, after you use your Ultimate, you're gonna have to charge it again, meaning your ability to influence the match resets, and thus you're supposed to wait for the right oportunity to use those.

Meanwhile, Paladins has an in-game currency during a match to buy items inbetween rounds (that don't stick for the next match). The better you are at your role, the more coin you get and the more items you can buy. These items can help to counter the enemy team or simply make you more effective, but the important difference is that this snowballs easily, as you don't lose the items you bought until the match is over.

Overwatch is more about dynamic power fluctuation and timing your ultis with both your team and enemy team, better players using theirs more often.
Paladins is more about farming coin to improve yourself\counter the enemy team and snowball the next matches. The better players snowball faster.


There's obviously other factors here, Overwatch having far more polish, a futuristic aesthetic vs fantasy magi-tech aesthetic and the majority of characters being far more good looking than Paladins.
However these shouldn't really be a factor in picking one over the other compared to the major factors.

I have once swallowed a little bit of drain cleaner as a kid. I have never vomited so hard and so quickly. Never told anyone it might be cause why i am so autistic.

Paladins because it's not overwatch

UT4

FTFY, and don't forget to check my dubs on the way out of this /thread.

There's always more Widowmaker although I still think the original outfit is way sexier

You won't because this place has already been infested with shill and good goys to the brim. All overcuck threads now reach bump limit.

Another dubs thread.

There are a lot of things that aren't Overwatch, Paladins might not be the best choice when you have other options to consider.

Gigantic seems to be a decent one with lower TTK and more focus on small skirmishes, but you gotta buy that one.
Dirty Bomb is free and slightly less jewish than Paladins while being better designed in terms of gameplay.


What's the deal with UT? I haven't tried it yet but I've been meaning to, however it seems it's not as popular as they expected?
Is there something fundamentally wrong with the game or the team making it that's putting people off?

Look, I'm going to default to Paladins because its free but otherwise I would rather kill this thread and hide the body

Are you living under a rock or something

Why not just play a not-shit free game?

overwatch main problem now is balance and shit not getting fixed fast enough still outside that decent shit mercy is best healer
paladins free but ran by a shit company who doesn't like fast or fun. HUGE hitboxes almost no skill involved takes ages to get into ranked mode
battleborn probably the most decent mechanic wise and you know specs system per a game but ran by a cuck company not worth putting time into.
gigantic pretty decent just overall lacking in stuff
lawbreakers Please buy my shit game

Hardly between both games, most of the shitflinging is against both, but that's to be expected here.


That doesn't answer anything.
UT2K4 was a pretty great game that carved it's niche quite well by not trying to be a Quake clone but still being a pretty good arena shooter.
UT3 kinda suffered because the factions were terrible and the armor was Gears of War Reskinned, (but it still had a lot of pretty cool new ideas)

I did expect the previous playerbase to make the jump and try UT4 since supposely it's a "back to the roots" game and considering it doesn't even need excessive knowledge about rocketjumping, b-hopping or strafejumping, I'd expect it to be more popular.

If the arena shooters were indeed the superior form of shooter, then they'd at least be able to still carve out a proper niche, no?

How else would you make people talk about your game?

Gigantic is pretty recent compared to the other ones, lack of content is to be expected. Not like Overwatch released with that many heroes or maps, especially if you consider the Beta.

I wish the game doesn't flop just so more games are made with bigger TTK because this is something quite rare apparently.

No one plays modern arena shooters because there's no reason to. The old games are still there with active playerbase

That said, ut4 has plenty of players for an arena shooter alpha with little to no marketing resources, around 200

Not this shit again. Fuck off back to reddit.

Which one has better porn?

You have slutty elves, a slutty archer, and the furfag squirrel vs the diversity pack, and Mei.

Guess I gotta try it eventually then. I did liked some of the videos I saw regarding the newer forms of advanced movement.


Don't misrepresent shit if you can't understand it.
Good things always attract at least a small niche of people to play it and the better something is, the more people it attracts.

Popular things might not be good, but Good things are indeed supposed to be popular to a degree which is why I specifically said "they'd at least be able to still carve out a proper niche" and not that it should be AAA-level of success.

If it can't attract players and the older games are still considered better, than it can't possibly be that good to begin with.

Mercy, the Aryan Angel
Soldier76, the GI Joe
McCree, Clint Eastwood
Junkrat and Roadhog "Straya, mate!"
And several Robots too without a nationality.

Nigger you're trying to qualify the objectively false statement that popularity = quality. This is such a complete waste of both of our times when you even admit that you know that statement is false when you used the word "should". Just stop posting.

Cassie > every overwatch girl

Ying > Cassie tho

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I want Drogoz to take my anal virginity.

What a shit thread

OW too tho

If you don't like people talking about video games on a video game related board feel free to leave.

Why don't you post about video games instead of who you want to take your anal virginity then?

Haha, do you guys like league of legends too? XD

My post was video game related unlike yours, kid.
We don't want your kind here.

LOL is also a video game so people can talk about it here all they want.

Different kind of retard.
Just buying Overwatch makes you a retard, after all.


Nah, I've played Unreal. 1v2 is easy shit. 1v3 or 1v4 is where things get tough, but it's still doable if the enemy team is a certain brand of special.
tbh people this shit at vidya shouldn't be allowed on Holla Forums


And we'll call them faggots, just like I'll call you a faggot for being a fucking faggot.

Got more of/like the second one?

Shut the fuck up pussy, if i ever came up to you you would be shitting yourself in fear and beg me to cuck you!
>implying you actually have a gf and not masturbate four times per day, XD

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This isn't even funny ironically user, it's just sad the level that you and people like you have brought this board down to. I know you have no metric to compare image board quality and I'm wasting my time with this post, but you really are the scourge of image boards and you have no fucking idea. You're like the locusts of the internet, unfeeling, unthinking force of destruction.

Heathens begone.

Fully agree fellow slav poster.

I am a scourge only to communist agitators like (((you))).

Like I said, not even funny ironically, just an unthinking scourge.

Say the cuckchan scumbags that want to kill a video game related thread just because they don't like it.

I haven't admitted to shit yet, you're the one making the classic blunder of "If A=B then B=A".
Popularity isn't an indicator of Quality, but Quality is an indicator of Popularity indeed. Good things attract more people because they are good, especially when we are dealing with subjective "good" that's defined by the people attracted to it.

For instance, Deus Ex, Stalker and VTMB are all games that have their own set of unique qualities that atract a niche playerbase to them and makes those games indeed popular to said playerbase. However they are still flawed in their own way, which limits it's popularity.

Meanwhile you have stuff like Dark Souls or GTA San Andreas, games that are of high quality in their genres with little to no flaws and do atract a lot of more people.

You also have Battleborn, Lawbreakers and even Revolution66 as games of very low quality that in return see no popularity as nobody is particularly interested in low-polish badly designed games.

Should you have an example of good games that have almost no popularity, I'd love to hear one and know just who exactly actually plays them.

If you can't understand this simple concept, then please don't try to argue any more, it's best that you at least stay at the level of "popularity != quality" since not many people reach that.

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Cuckchan loves overcuck and assfaggot shooters.

I was talking about equally skilled oponents.
Unless you want to convince me that if you and another buddy went together against another player that's as good as you and both of you stood no chance against him.
Which honestly doesn't make much sense.

You said "decent" players, not "equally skilled" players. Decent players are just decent. I'm not decent - I'm a fucking champion.

You see they say all men are created equal. But you look at me, and you look at a "decent" Paladins player, and you can see that statement is not true. See normally if you go 1v1 with another player you've got a 50/50 chance of winning. But I'm a genetic freak, and I'm not normal. So you've got a 25% chance at best of beating me. And then you add me with an OP character like Ying to the mix? Your chances of winning drastically go down. And see in a 1v2 in Paladins, you've normally got a 33.33% chance of winning. But I have a 66.66% chance of winning, because your buddy knows he can't beat me, and he's not even going to try. So you take your 33.33% chance, minus my 25% chance, and you've got an 8.33% chance of winning in Paladins. But then you take my 75% chance of winning, and add the 66.66% chance, and I've got a 142.66% chance of winning in Paladins.

See user, the numbers don't lie. And they spell disaster for "decent" players against me in Paladins.

Cleve, why are you playing paladins instead of working on grimoire?

Ah of course. How could I forget about the Internet Tough Guy, with a 210% win ratio.
Sorry my good man. I tip my katana to you.


It's where he gets most of his material to work with. :)

Its okay for Blizzard to have a character be sexy because she interacted with another woman which means shes a lesbian. Thats why I cant take Overwatch porn seriously becuase 90% of it is just trannys and carpet munchers fantasizing about girls

kek

>delet skye
Agree 200%, remove elf

.t NSA

I can't understand the human logic behind this. I have friends too and they play certain games that are absolute unplayable horrible cancer - Overwatch and Cuck Thunder being some of them.

Does that mean that I will play those games with them? Jesus Christ fuck no! Why would I do that to myself? I'm not an autist and I'm not a dipshit who gives his money to worthless developers. My friends can go cuck themselves as hard as they like, but I won't be playing shitty games with them no matter how much they "pressure" me to.
Stop being a retard who buys shit games just because "lmao fun with friends XDDD"

Both suck balls, but at least one is free.

There is a difference, OW hitboxes are like that with projectiles in general, the character hitboxes are basically fair, in Paladins the character hitboxes are literally one big cube encompassing the player model, not trying to defend OW, in this case Paladins rewards hitscans for spraying instead of burst fire.

I want underage to leave.

You would be surprised, when the topic of duplicates and low chances of skins comes in the forums there is someone who always goes "at least is free, they could begin charging for DLC if it wasn't like this" and the classic "they have to make money, they are a business after all."

It's not necessarily a good thing, but the alternative in Paladins is to buy it only, at least Overwatch gives you a chance at unlocking stuff without paying more than what the game costs and there's even a currency system designed specifically so that eventually you do get what you want anyway.

Grinding for skins is stupid though, it's best to just play the game and enjoy the loot crates as random surprises.


Considering how it was a feature requested by their playerbase, of course they'd defend it.
And in any case, it's a fun example of people not really understanding statistics since anyone that really worries about unlocking everything would be buying the cheaper stuff and rolling on the duplicate cash instead, it's faster that way.

Team Fortress 2

Reminder that all modern action shooters are but inferior shekel-grubbing devolutions of an infinitely superior game made over ten years ago.

The email field is removed on Holla Forums

That should make it LESS difficult saging properly, not more. The only reason why you would ever bother with the checkbox is so that it would give you sage+sage when you combine it with the email field.

imagine if when tf2 had released you could only play as soldier, heavy, and medic, and to pick the other classes you had to buy them with ingame grinding points or with money.
alternatively, imagine if tf2 cost $40.


the email field is a dropdown menu where the only options are sage and nothing, it was made that way specifically to making saging easier for retards like you, and you still failed.

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This is the best post I have seen on this website in years.

We really need Hitler back now more than ever.

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This really is one of the worst crimes a person can commit.

That video is a year old

Rope

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PLEASE

Isn't there a rocket eagle man whose ult is to charge into someone, instantly killing them?

Paladins has pay to win content. Players are not given an equal footing in a match, with capabilities dependent on which cards they own.

Overwatch is 100% equal. Every player has access to all of the heroes and abilities with no unlockable modifiers whatsoever.

Also I want to say overwatch ults are far from guaranteed kills. Half of the ults aren't even used for killing, the other half are easily countered. They are definitely game changing, but a large part of the game is about using them at the right time and place, when your teammates are perfectly set up to take advantage of it or have the enemy in a position where they can't counter. Outmaneuvering the enemy team like that while also managing your ult economy so that you have what you need when you need it (and the enemy doesn't) is what high level play is all about.

Blizzdrone detected.

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Yeah you're right about the equality in the games, but ults are indefensible to anybody with an IQ above room temperature. This "ult economy" you described is so astoundingly unfun it's crazy, and what the fuck is a mechanic like that doing in a shooter

That would be Drogoz indeed. He literally has an instakill that bypasses shields.
Then there's Skye that causes a fuck ton of damage with her Ulti that it's practicaly OHK.

Ultis between both games are quite different but they still influence the game all the same, the difference being how you charge them, where Overwatch rewards good players while Paladins is just a cooldown.

They are dynamic power shifts that allow for strategy and game-changing moments provided you can use them better than your oponent can counter them.

You had similar mechanics in other shooters as well, like UT2K4, where you had an offensive Ulti (the Redeemer) and defensive Ulti (the Super Shield), both of these being capable of turning the game when adquired.
The difference between that and the Ults in this game is that everyone gets a different one, they aren't as simple as "collect for boost" or "fire at enemy" and the method for adquiring them in the case of Overwatch rewards playing your role.

In fact, one of the best compasions might actually be the Adrenaline Combos of UT2K4, that rewarded players not just for kills but for staying alive with killing sprees with a temporary ability they could use to snowball or turn the game in their favor, staying with it longer depending on how well they did with the game.

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