What's your opinion of kke Holla Forums? Any members here? Thinking of joining the party...

What's your opinion of kke Holla Forums? Any members here? Thinking of joining the party, even though I'm not 100% on board with it's program.

bump also curious about it.

What type of communism do they support?

Always like what that Kanelli said on tv

they're tankies

KKE a shit like any ML party that followed official Soviet political lines through the cold war.

If you want a good greek tankie party to join, look into Anasintaxi.

i'm not a tankie, i'm just thinking of joining the most popular movement to maximize any impact i can make

Are tankies nazbols full of nationalism and identity politics "any person i dont like, like x minority should be killed" or just people who support's Lenin's violent overthrow of the government instead of magically waiting for it to fall?

Best commies in greece and I say that as someone that isn't technically even a Marxist.

the first. the kke isn't nazbol, and they critique idpol to the extreme, but like said they followed soviet policy throughout the cold war, murdered a lot of trots during the occupation, generally fucked up the civil war and kept sucking stalin's cock even after he sold them out in yalta. they also support this notion of socialism in one country. that combined with the fact that the average party peon knows 0 theory and the upper echelons are generally inaccessible makes me think that if they ever got power they'd turn greece into north korea 2.0

plus they've published some weird things, like their critique of the separation of drugs into hard and soft (aka they think heroin and pot are one and the same) and one text claiming being gay a choice…

dunno, i like the trots more tbh because the average member of the party is well versed in theory and not just parroting party quotes. but they have no presence outside uni campuses, im already in a trot council that represents students that live in the uni dorms

Depends really. In Greece I heard they are nationalists and have some weird homophobic positions. Some people who get called tankies are just Leninists who may not like Stalin or care about everything that the USSR did.

i misread what you wrote. i meant tankies as in stalinists.

What makes you hesitate?

their love for the mustache man cult

I'd rather join the trots. The KKE has a lot of historical baggage and weird shitty positions on things. I wonder how much KKE support is from old folks or people from a family that has supported them for 100 years. Trots are often rightly criticized for being too sectarian but I mostly agree with them.

Real Communism. Actual non-Revisionist Marxist-Leninism. I.e. they are neither Maoist/Hoxhaist Revisionists, nor Trots, nor LeftCom.

That's all? I say you are the Stalinist here then.

such as?

They are not participating in ritual Liberal shit-flinging.

id like some of the drugs you're having


well for starters, they murdered a lot of communists simply for being trots during the occupation. they even had an assassin unit dedicated to it called Ο.Π.Λ.Α.

then there's all the civil war stuff, they made core strategic mistakes which allowed the brits to take control of athens. some time after, they actually surrendered their weapons to the bourg government and betrayed the positions of all their generals that wanted to keep fighting the bourg government. they were promised an election, but of course got exile and executions. the leader that decided this even got officially exonerated a few years ago.

they also went into a coalition government with neo-liberals in 1989. plus all the stuff in mentioned in

As said they slavishly followed the party lines coming from Moscow. They lost the civil war and killed a bunch of trot dissenters. They take a hardline on drugs and are homophobic.

Just never show this on Holla Forums, or you'l get laughed at.

Yeah what i had in mind, you cant pretend to be communist if you just do the same crap Stalin did.

Not only did he told people to feel good for being socialist so they will ignore their bad living conditions he also he himself used idpol such as banning homosexuality instead of only removing pro capitalists, spies and anti communist elements. He went from killing people who deserve it for being anti community to killing people because they were a personal threat to him and his power or because they disliked them

I've heard the KKE youth wing are OK for meeting commie proles but the broader party aren't communist in any sense of the word, they are a weird mash up of Stalin-Khrushchev-Brezhnevites mixed up with years of greek electoral politics; they are fundamentally divorced from anything that can be considered Marxist, Leninist or even Stalinist.

It's called Communism and you are not getting it.

So, you basically, don't know anything about their aims or methods, and most of the stuff you disagree with happened half a century ago - and you learned about it from their political opponents.

Tell you what, you need to join SYRIZA.

fuck off, libturd

but they actively support these things today, they exonerated zahariadis like 3 years ago. you are the one that has no clue of what goes on, thats most likely why you result in namecalling lacking any arguments whatsoever. you can put your trip back on btw

the tripfag doesn't turn off, it's a gift of him to just filter his stupid ass. now go kys.

wew lad what an argument. did you say your daily prayers to the moustache today?

This shilling is getting too obvious.

Specifically what things?

Should've done it earlier. But this means they stopped being Revisionist - which is a great thing.

I support their interpretation of Soviet history.

I don't have a habit of removing it.

the shitposting full retard expects "arguments". why'd i put any more effort into this than you shiteating faggot?

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They literally bash Stalin from a Krushivite angle you fucking moronic clown.

I don't think I've yet met a fucking coldwar era Sovietboo, go read a book you LARPing child.

i've posted a lot of things above, if you'd even bother reading them, as to why i dislike the kke


you are literally retarded if you believe this was the right thing to do. ill just go ahead and filter you

Source, please. If anything, their position is anti-Khrushchevite.


Also, if anyone has actual critique of KKE's position, please present it (coherently, in a one big post) here: >>>/marx/5041

I'm slowposting there, but I'll get to it.

really makes you think

well homosexuality is a symptom of bourgeois decay.

Man the b8 is strong, you realize you are arguing about idpol now right

Denial.

sad

wew

You might want to go to Holla Forums, there they embrace idpol and your negative feelings over different people and make up excuses so you Cana all pretend your dislike isn't emotional and is totes about the good of the human race ;^)

this is what I think of trying to push for communism in parlamentary politics