Trump sends armored vehicles to YPG

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So, since Trump has been in office, there has been more material support for the Syrian Democratic Forces, which includes the YPG (and I think YPG fighters are the majority).

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trump confirmed literal commie

I mean is it any surprise?

He's on record stating that the Kurds were the most effective force fighting ISIS

Really makes one think (not kidding): this either means that the YPG is just another ineffectual loud regional stumbling block that will inevitably be purged of what little radical elements it has and become another nation state or special autonomous zone under Syrian borders, or that the YPG really is a threat and that the US is using its "tactical support" methods to abuse their activities for geoplotics and then try to dispose of them later, as they've done before.

The last "option" isn't really an option though: that Trump would unironically support a movement he genuinely believes is revolutionary.

That's not because Trump is kind, that's because they're literally the only people fighting ISIS right now from the Syrian side of the war.

You're quite naive if you think this makes him a communist.

So that's two good points. I still count way more bad, namely that he is a dirty capitalist porky, but still two good points.

YPG has positioned itself expertly in Syria. They're in the process of surrounding Raqqa and have cut off the chance of anyone else taking it. Thus they give themselves negotiation power. They can say "we won't take Raqqa unless we get X, Y and Z". It seems they've got shitloads of vehicles and heavy weapons as part of the deal. The US cannot control what those guns and weapons do after Raqqa.

Isn't Bannon a Leninist?

Personally I think they know deep down the Kurds are the only reasonable force in the area. Its that ultimate right wing dilemma, which do you hate worse, Arabs or Communists?

They all are, compared to the others at least he's done some good in some key areas.

I don't think Trump cares about their politics very much. I think he just cares that they're fighting ISIS and how that benefits the US

No, he's an edgy reactionary.

at least something super-positive is coming out of all this

Or maybe the starting point of their every move isn't "how do we defeat socialism".

fuggin fashist…

SAA, Hezbollah, Russia, and TSK are all currently fighting ISIS in al-Bab and Palmyra.

Raqqa will be inducted into Rojava just like Manbij. It will be governed according to democratic confederalism just like Manbij. All the Arab fighters in the SDF read Bookchin and Ocalan during their training courses. If US wants to support that then let em kek.

Trump is meeting with some pharmaceutical companies today too, trying to cut prices. He said something like 'the drug companies are getting away with murder', talking about pricing.

This is actually better than Obama lol

Did he give any mention to Martin Shkreli ?

He said he wanted to destroy the state and the political establishment.

Trump is an actual retard he doesn't know anything about YPG's ideology. He just knows they're fighting IS like most Burgers.

I honestly don't understand the amount of hate he's getting from the left. He's shit in a lot of ways but in comparison to other presidents over the last 30 years he's been considerably better.

Holla Forums got absolutely played

His cabinet picks alone are worthy of criticism. He's been in office for ten days dude. Lets save the praise for when his policies actually start taking effect.

I have an account on an alt right forum, I'm gonna see what they're saying about this lol. I might post a thread for demoralization and lulz

Well, that's why I said he's shit in a lot of ways. Not to mention, saying he's better then the other dogshit presidents we've had isn't exactly a form of "praise". It means that relatively speaking he's still fairly mediocre but credit should still be given where credit is due. The same applies to criticism as well.

How can you say he's better when his policies haven't even taken effect or even been formulated? We just don't know the impact his administration will have yet. I think you're jumping the gun a bit.

I think shit like this is proving that, as Zizek has said, Trump is not strictly worse than Hillary for working people and perhaps even marginally better for their quality of life.

Now, however, will come the time for the left to not fall in one of the two mistakes: 1) to ineffectually get angry at Trump's posturing and not the content of his politics or 2) become complacent with the new era of right-populism the Trump election has brought capitalism into.

We still need more time before giving him the judgement.

You might be right. With that said, I highly doubt anything negative can come out of removing the U.S. from the TPP or giving weapons to the YPG. However, some of his other policy ideas might lead to negatives.

This is true.

Fair enough.

How long until Turkish Airstrikes destroy them while they are parked somehwere on a field ?

I'd be willing to bet that Trump has no idea that the YPG are hugely different to Peshmerga.

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Doesn't YPG have more female soldiers anyway?

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YPJ has 20,000 soldiers who actually fight and regularly get killed. Peshmerga roll out a few female soldiers for photos every now and then but I don't think they have any notable female presence in their ranks

TRUMP IS A NAZBOL CONFIRMED!

You're quite naive if you can't detect obvious sarcasm

I would if I knew some people weren't morons who will end up thinking the pee pee man is a good thing for them because they are unable to separate a person and his actions

We have many Holla Forums shitposters on this board, it's hard to tell what's sarcasm and what's not.

I would hope that someone in the administration would tell him who they are but no one told him not to sign the refugee executive order so…

Oy vey.

Nice Satanic trips btw famrade

Half the weapons the YPG get off the coalition will be funnelled through to Qandil and eventually we'll see those same weapons killing Turkish soldiers and blowing up Turkish tanks in Southeast Turkey.

Is this propaganda, or are liberals that stupid ?

It's really stupid liberal propaganda qz.com/898053/want-to-understand-what-trump-and-bannon-are-up-to-look-to-the-russian-revolution-of-1917/

Both, propaganda from the media because they didn't win, lapped up by their liberal footsoldiers in the society.

So to say, but #1 is already happening and has been for a while. Have you been out lately in any major city? Everyone and their mom is becoming a "socialist" now because Trump is president, in name only of course. They don't give a fuck about anti-imperialism/internationalism and actually resisting global capital, they are media pawns. It's sad.

The second one I think is a danger, sure, but the first is far worse at this point. Those people are in great numbers, liberals and middle of the road Republicans far outnumber conservatives that are teetering on the edge of fascism. Trump's approval rating is the lowest of all presidents.

I'm convinced the real enemy are the liberals, just as MLK stated about the "white moderate." He was right on the money here. Even if the most acute problem is a fully right wing government, these new "socialists" roaming around the streets screaming about "FASCISM" wouldn't have raised a finger if the same policies were carried out under Hillary. These people *aren't* my fucking comrades.

Ok, fair point, sorry for being an asshole

this wasnt just lacan man and he said it in the most convoluted retarded way possible, it was pretty much everyone credible that isnt securely enshrined in the western liberal simularcrum

seriously a lot of you need to stop being such complete fucking partisans, the loudest criticisms of trumps plans are resoundgly idpol related

youre not completely wrong, it was a coup of sorts


what are you even trying to say you arrogant cocksocket, you sound like you think you are a teacher of the childish masses


yep preddy much

The liberals are noisier but I don't think they represent a majority. From the way the media is reporting Trump's presidency, you would think the country was overwhelmingly and passionately against his 'Muslim ban'. If you look at polling, however, opinion is pretty evenly split and there may even be a majority in favor. I think that unless the economy is in the shitter in 2020 (a pretty big 'unless', I know), Trump will probably win again.

b..but its only muh kurds…

dont forget all the oddball multi-culti militias fighting for assad, like two palestinian ones, all kindsa different sunnis as well

No, he just made some retarded comment about how he's a Leninist because both he and Lenin wanted to destroy the established order.

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The uneducated masses, uneducated in terms of important things have fallen for Trump, even shills here keep trying to suggest he is some great good revolutionary for the worker while anyone with a brain sees Trump is trouble and nothing good for the worker outside the accelerationist perspective

Why would accelerationists support Comrade Trump?

Oh look it is a Holla Forums shill :o

Obama was a hardened anti-communist cock sucker who was angling for a position among the corporate and political elite once he left office. Meanwhile Trump is a crude uninitiated blowhard. I think hen may accidentally help the global left in more ways than one if we are lucky.

Your day is over, porky. >>>/gulag/

Lurk more faggot

Watch, next you'll try to defend free trade.

heh

Free trade is good because it weakens local capitalists in the developed world and allows the left to harness nationalism in order to abolish capitalism.

It actually strengthens local capitalists in the developed world as they can offshore production to places with cheaper labour costs.

Watch, next you ll try to twist something i say because you have no argument so you have to make up one so your bad "i are communist" meme might not look ultra fake
lol

YPG has been receiving material support and coordinating raids with U.S. special forces since at least last fall

this isn't solely on Trump, sorry to disappoint Holla Forumsfags

I never thought I would see the day.

The article does not mention what kind of armor is being sent to the YPG. Is it just Strykers or M6s? Are there M1A1s in the care package? A squadron of those would do terrible, horrible things to Assad and IS. Trump would not give them an anti-aircraft battery, would he? Turkey would go ballistic. It's probably just Strykers and M6s.

Is there JP-8 to go along with it? I doubt that Rojava can produce JP-8 on its own.

Yeah, the article says as much, but they have never received armored units before. Armored units give the YPG and entirely new dimension. This is the kind of thing that makes the capture of cities possible.

All we know really, no specifics as far as weapons.

As far as armour goes, check pic related. US hasn't sent tanks (yet?). YPG has very little tanks and the few they do have are stuck in Afrin, so they could do with some.

Just armored cav would be a tremendous help. Being able to move soldiers into and out of the shit quickly is a huge tactical advantage.

Gonna miss YPG's Mad Max modified vehicles

For you

I want to see a Bradley painted like that.

The vehicles were given to Arab elements within the SDF, not the YPG. does anyone have info on what groups? I'm suspicious that Pentagon may just be trying to forment a coup, or even just bolster non-marxist groups within the YPG to frustrate any plans they have for an uncucked Rojava.

This probably is too good to be true.

It's like geeeeettiiiiiiiiiiing support from your imperialist eneeeeeeeeemy
It's beeeeen the same with Obama in a smiliar waaaaaaay
It's the good guuuuuuuun that you just did take
And who would've thought it, it figures

Isn't it ironic?

Source?

someone tell these people, just because it's big vehicle, doesn't mean it's well armored. seriously tell them not to use them as assault vehicles. don't let the make the same mistake the US made in Iraq with Humvees: they are big and look armored, but they are not. They should be used like jeepsL light supply, patrol in places with little insurgency. medical evacuation too. The only reason Humvees are so big is so that retarded american drivers, who don't even need to have a driver's license, don't roll them and kill everyone like what constantly happened with the Jeep. see, Jeeps are still just as good as unarmored Humvees, they just require a competant driver.

I honestly don't think trump knows they are leftists

Reminder that Micheal Flynn is a paid Turkey shill who want to extradite Gulen. Reminder the that west will inevitably betray Rojava.

It will take much the same course as Manbij which went like this:

YPG trains a ton of locals and nearby non jihadist rebels, teaches them democratic confederalism, Bookchin, Ocalan etc, forms a Military Council consisting of said locals. YPG take the countryside and outskirts of city and the locals from the Military Council penetrate into the actual city when the time comes.

When the city is liberated, they'll be offered to become part of Rojava/Northern Syria Federation, which they'll likely accept. And TEV DEM will send down a team or delegation to help set up the council/commune structure.

It's a very clever strategy because you get to spread the system whilst not coming off as invaders.

In regards to weapons, YPG will get what they need. "Were only giving it to the Arabs" is just something the US say to keep Erdogan from going mental

dude, it's in the fucking article, did you even read it? we reddit now?

Actually no, I didn't. I'm at work.

The US really doesn't care about communism right now. They care about preventing Russian influence, which for decades usually meant preventing communism, but really they don't care. Recall the US supporting Yugoslavia, the PRC, and the Khmer Rouge.

I'm sure the the SF operators embedded with them will give the SDF a heads up if they get shafted with some Humvees. Armored vehicle is pretty vague so who knows what they're getting? MRAPs? M113s? LAVs? Could be anything.

a fair portion of the 200 or more vehicles are confirmed to be Canadian Gurkha LAPV.

Iraqi Army's armour got slaughtered in Mosul because they constantly got caught by car bombs in the narrow alleys. I'm sure SDF and coalition will learn a lot from the successes and failures of Mosul.

Mosul is far bigger but it'll be a fairly similar fight I think

They did that simply to fuck with the Soviets.

i.e. they don't care much about socialism as they do about stopping Russia.

Trump isn't giving shit the YPG you fucking idiots.

Thank you based Satan.

He is, YPG is by far the strongest force in the SDF and they wont allow others to threaten that positions, they will just take their fair share just like with previous shipments.

Dear, I know you're furious and Trump made you so very upset, but getting mad because you don't understand the civil war isn't very mature.