Gee, the things you overhear from the Nazi guards in the new Wolfenstein sure sounds familiar

hmm.

This cannot be real.

Bullshit. No, way they're that stupid.

Wolfenstein Nazis are pretty cool dudes

OP, I'm gonna need a link to the video

*no way

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Wait, I'm confused, are they taking the piss or are they lowkey redpilled?
Help I'm dumb.

Who cares, only Holla Forums is triggered. They would murder if they could.

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I corrected it. You can't laugh!

I think they are just moking nazis.

Anyone would murder indiscriminately if they could get away with it

I neither recognize it nor see how it is worth the inevitable political screeching in this thread. It's just completely nonsensical given the setting, voiding any point it might try to make.

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They right, you know?

I'd probably rape everyone in this thread if I could get away with it. Including you.
Don't underestimate the degeneracy that humans have, Jewish influence or not.

I hope you are prepared for the consequences of violating our NAP.

I'm willing to bet there is some stupid achievement for killing them/letting them live.
It's such a dumb conversation to insert into this game.
Of course it's there because

Why was Wolfenstein of all things rebooted so many times? Return to Castle, 2009 and TNO

The game is made by Swedes.

Lemme help ya.

Why is every AAA game made by Canadians & Swedes now? They're the worst people in the world.

Wolfenstein 3D was a "reboot" of the original too.

Someone genuinely wanted to make a great game.

Cheap cash-ins by talentless hacks riding on the achievements of their betters.

Thank you.

Have an OC.

Because commieforina is imploding on itself.

So they portrait the nazis as sympathetic?

What a bunch of shitlords! Get the whole media on the case!

A nazi guard would probably be talking about how he's itching to kill degenerate commies, not complain about how they kill them.

I'll McNuke your Poop chute.

If the Nazis had won there would not be any degenerate commies around anymore.

No you see, thats who you're playing as.

If Nazis won, shit would be different, halfchan probably wouldn't even exist.
Shit, we might have IRL deathsquads prowling gay hook up sites and more gay gore videos here.

Would be morbidly interesting. Too bad Adolf lost big time. Dern shame.

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No, you're playing as the eternal jew. The constant disruptor of healthy societies.

Lemme help ya.

8/10 picture either way.

Same thing.

I always found it fascinating how that Jew is making fun of how Sephardics look, when the Ashkenazi (((white))) passing kikes are the ones doing the most damage. Can't undo the cartoon now I suppose.

Missed the first post, kike?

Cry harder, you titanic infant.

TWO SCOOPS!?!?!???

In case anyone doesn't understand OP's image, there's a lot of campaigning for the "punch a nazi" sentiment from the antifa and Holla Forums ever since Richard Spencer got punched on camera.
A common misunderstanding the antifa and Holla Forums continue to parrot is that they think people are against this because we "disagree" or "hold a different point of view," but really the pretense of punching your political opponents is encouraging the mindset of "violence is a valid political move," and that's fucking insane.

So it's Pic related: The Game.

Allow me

Who won? Communists. What's top board? Holla Forums.
Who could had won? Nazis. What top board would be? Holla Forums
So yeah, careful what you wish for. Underground is called underground for a reason. In authoritarian conservative countries underground is always leftist.

NOW THATS WHAT I CALL LOL

Leftists garbage needs to fuck off from this planet forever.

Yes, one argues their points on the internet. You can't attack somebody on the internet.

The game even later talks about how the KKK was made by and funded by republicans, and they even try to conflate the modern party with KKK nazis. This is ignoring how the KKK was made by democrats and liberals in the south.

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They literally did a Doctor Who episode last month where the doctor punched someone for being racist. It's everywhere.

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They wouldn't because the holocaust is a lie. And all relocated jews would eventually get hold of the internet and become terrorist group.

Never happened, goyim.

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Fun fact, russian imageboards exist and it's all libtards and communists there in terms of politics.

Holla Forums, Holla Forums, SJWs, and fenceshitters are all the fucking same

That's the one.

Racially aware civic nationalism a best

Drown yourself in semen, cuckfy.

And who you are? Libertarian? Lover of corporate democracy we have today?

I'm all for it, mostly because leftists will soon discover that we are far better at dishing out violence than they could ever dream to be.

Really gets your noggin' groggin'.


True.

Did your manual not include a procedure for how to deal with people you can't identify at all?
Funny how that's the first thing you try to do, isn't it?

You must be at least 18-years old to post on this imageboard.

Back in Wiemar Germany the leftists were running rampant, having their own little gay bands and terrorizing honest citizens and establishing their communes. Then the SA came.

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Go outside.

Okay.

You can't make a counter argument to a non-argument.

Go outside, you fucking nerd.

How can an argument be an argument if it's not even an argument?

So they're making Nazis look like the anti violence good guys?
Don't get it

These threads are destined to always be shit but this game is also destined to be shit so I guess it's to be expected.

(((video games)))

That's not an argument.

Neither was 's Post.

Really makes you think.

What literature is good about this period? I haven't really read about it, only heard about indirectly.

Your whole point hinges on the retarded idea that both sides are equally wrong, when we have more than enough objective proof that is not the case. But please, embarrass yourself and claim niggers are the equals of whites, or that Jews aren't pushing the kind of propaganda Wolfenstein 2 is all about.

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Can you fuck an argument?

Something like this can only take place with a severe combined lack of self-awareness.

Where are the drawfags when you need them?

Which is why I love this board. People here are so fucking stupid and they're ONLY subconsciously aware and won't admit it.

not an argument.

This is the part that tickles my funny bone the most here.

Nothing concrete, you'll be hard pressed to find any unbiased source.

For example, you know about the Nazi book burnings, right? Well, what they didn't tell you is that it wasn't Nazis that did it, but students that stormed the library of the Institut für Sexualwissenschaft (Institute for Sexual (((Science))) if you couldn't guess) and burned the shit out of that.

Also, the communists themselves attempted a few coup d'etats in this period, but no one will ever tell you this little bit of information. It's not kosher to tell the goyim that it was the Bolsheviks that tried to usurp power first, Hitler and the NSDAP merely being a reactionary movement against this threat.

They're taking the piss because you're supposed to identify as the main character. The only way this game could convince me other wise is if it pulled a Deus Ex where if you avoid the compulsion to shoot you can debate politics and philosophy with them. But that'll never happen.

Allies burned Nazi books after conquering Germany. But of course, that's OK, cuz dey is nazi's n shieet.

Or we can all collectively admit that fence shitters have nothing to debate with except calling everyone else stupid for actually having a stance on any number of given issues. I respect even the most autistic Holla Forums subhuman over some moderate faggot, at least the Holla Forums cuck has more to say than "lel everyone is dumber than me XD".

The Nazis burned jewish books after conquering Germany. But of course, that's OK, cuz dey was jews n shieet.

Wolfenstein has always been rebooted.

3D was a reboot of a series of stealth games on the Amiga called "Castle Wolfenstein"

Return to Castle Wolfenstein was a reboot of that

2009 was a reboot of that although it was still a sequel

TNO was a reboot of a reboot although it's also technically still a sequel. All of the Wolfenstein games post RtCW take place in the same continuity. (At one point in the Old Blood you have the option to stealth kill this one super soldier, and BJ remarks "I remember seeing you guys in the X-Labs". Which is a level in RtCW where you first fight these super soldier enemies. Likewise the old wheelchair bound woman in TNO is a young german woman in Wolfy 2009 who is crippled by a boss in that game, and she mentions it in TNO.)


It wasn't even Id software that made RtCW it was Grey Matter. And all they made before RtCW was shit like Redneck Rampage. The game is even largely forgotten nowadays in favor of Wolfenstein Enemy Territory which was made by Splash Damage.


2009 was made by Raven they weren't talentless hacks they made Soldier of Fortune and Jedi Academy

TNO was made by Ex-Starbreeze and they made The Darkness and Butcher bay.


Mostly everyone here wouldn't exist if the Nazis won. 100% certain they wouldn't have been seen as pure or their parents wouldn't be allowed to breed.

Either that or the autism would've been seen as a good enough reason to gas

But they're not the ones ever who said it was bad, are they?

Oh look, it's another kid who flunked out of high school and is totally ignorant of political history. Here's a little spoonfeeding for you: before the 20th century, the Democrat and Republican parties were the polar opposite of what they were today.

I bet you think the Nazis were leftists too.

That's probably the same reasoning they use when they talk about shit like firebombing Dresden.

I feared as much. I have a few excerpts from a few books but they're more about the general attitude in Europe.

2009 isn't a reboot.

Left is incapable of dialogue because ironically they think understanding stems from dialogue, and not the other way around with mutual understanding being the foundation for dialogue

NATO shelled Serbia with depleted uranium
NATO and Allies made mock trials just to have a bit of sadistic fun in the name of "punishing war crimes"
Like le british eggman of falling upwards said, history remembers you the way you write it.

This is your brain on reductive reasoning.

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Using tactics is also bad, especially when one side's one are working.

But that's not what Holla Forums wants.
t. Holla Forums
Also, sage for barely-vidya-political-thread #1,847.

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Thanks for letting us know, now we'll never know what Holla Forums wants!

This shit will never not be retarded and tiresome.

It's funny. Everyone learns about the devastation caused by the atomic bombs in Japan, but nobody ever tells you in school about how the Allies bombed manifold German cities fucking flat. Or, for that matter, that more people were killed by run-of-the-mill bombings and firebombings of Tokyo than were killed in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. They just want to talk about the big bad nukes and how inhumane the USA was for using them.

The US pushed Japan into war and the nuked them for good measure, even though there was no reason to do it. They killed 300,000 innocent people for no other reason than they could.

Fuck Roosevelt.

The first part. Abolishing class.

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That's a wholly vague concept.

Stop embarrassing yourself and pick up a book. I know it's summer and all, but from the looks of it you can use all the help you can get.

Bitch, learn your history before mouthing off.

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It's not. The problem is that socialists use "class" in a different way than the colloquial meaning. We use the term to refer to the property relations involved in production.
The short version is that, to get rid of class, people who work should own what they produce. That could be on the national level, through a planned economy, or on the enterprise level, through cooperative workplaces.
I'll leave it at that, since anyone who wants to know more would be better served by just lurking Holla Forums, and because I want to get back to talking about vidya.
Also, forgot my sage last time.

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Is mayonnaise an argument?

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Gee this thread hit the shitter in a hurry.

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They used the nukes as a political ploy. It was a ruse; the purpose wasn't to cause a bunch of death and make them surrender, it was to demonstrate the power of the nuclear bomb and then STRAIGHT UP LIE that we had hundreds more ready to go at any time. Japan fell for it.

Also, many, many studies were done and have been done that predicted Japanese casualties through a D-Day style invasion of Japan would number in the millions (mostly because even civilians were culturally obligated to fight to the death), and American casualties in the tens if not hundreds of thousands. So many purple hearts were produced to prepare for this hypothetical invasion, that through the Korean, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc wars since then, we STILL HAVE NOT RUN OUT of the backlog.

The nukes were a kindness to both sides and an excellent tactical decision.

Oh, and FDR was already dead; Truman was the one who ordered it done.

Despite this, thinking that they let Pearl harbor happen just to have an excuse to go to war is a "9/11 was an inside job. jet fuel can't melt steel beams. muh thermite" level of tinfoilhattery. Motive on its own does not prove guilt.

We're just waiting for the game to come out so we can laugh at the BioWare tier writing.

It was a Holla Forumsbait thread from the OP. What did you expect??

I haven't insulted anyone yet.
Also, on this point:
This is predicated on the assumption that the government is acting in the interests of some group other than the majority of the people. While that's clearly true today, part of the solution would obviously involve making government more representative, probably through direct democracy.

Also, I know you're only shitposting, but I just wanted to get this stuff out there.

But then how will people go to school if there is no class ?

Japan could give less of a shit about the nukes. Conventional and firebombing raids caused more damage and victims. What they feared was a Russian invasion of the Japanese mainland. Even before the nukes fell they were preparing to declare a surrender, the only sticking point being the US demand that the Emperor abdicate.

No, they killed 300,000 innocent humans so the government could justify all the money he shat on making the nukes. That's all there is to it.

Roosevelt is the kike golem that forced Japan's hand.

I never said that you kike loving cuck. I merely said that the US did everything in their power to make Japan attack them.

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The US and Roosevelt didn't give a fuck what was happening across the pond until good goyim got the ball rolling for the pearl harbor bombings. Churchill needed (((allies))) and the US didn't pick a side yet.

Ebin.
Kill yourself, take aspirin, prepare a hot bath and slit your fucking wrists you worthless parasite.

Also, what the fuck is your hard-on for hating FDR but excusing Truman? Your screaming about TEH JOOS!!! in absence of any kind of reason or logic won't fly outside of Holla Forums, I hope you realize.

The eternal Anglo will always side against the enemies of the Jew. Roosevelt was slobbering after an excuse to go after Germans and Japanese so he could punish them for rebelling against his kike masters.

It's the devs taking what people say about antifa considering the shit going on right now and then portraying them as being literally Hitler

And do you have a single fact to back that up?

lel

In direct democracy, there is no big "leader"–only delegates and an executive council. Also, leaders don't "bring prosperity" to anyone–workers do. The difference is that, after capitalism, that prosperity won't be stolen and redistributed to the top, like it is today.
Also,
People who think they're smarter than the average person are the worst possible kind of snowflake.

Guess what, all eight of the points in the memo were fulfilled on the part of the US government.

wolfenstein 09 is a pretty fun game about occultism and weird science, pretty much all it has in common with any other wolfenstein game is the name.

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We should remake ethnic cleansing and release it on the same day the new Wolfejew comes out, just to piss people off, there are actual left wingers out there who actually take the game seriously about killing Nazi's.

So at most Roosevelt had plenty of good goyim in his office. Would not surprise me if Churchill was in the same boat. Besides, from the same place you pulled that from:

Yeah, it's just a (((coincidence))) the US government did exactly what was outlined in the memo.

I'm not saying they are blameless but let's not simplify the situation. That's how the kikes worm their way back in.

Meaningless term touted by people who won't admit that they simply oppose democracy. Your psychological need to have a great leader isn't a rational basis for government.
It's stolen by both, because the government as it is serves those employers–or more accurately, they serve each other. Capitalism came first, though. Government is always a reflection of society's preexisting economic structure. There's a reason why monarchy only fell after serfdom ended.

Should've tried a lottery, only 6 digits to hit there.

The population is too pozzed for that to work properly. Simple as that.

If you really believe that, I don't know what to tell you. I can say a turd is a steak, but that doesn't make it true. The nominally democratic elements of our government are vastly outweighed by the oligarchic tendencies of unrestricted campaign finance, first-past-the-post voting, wealth inequality, and consolidated mass media.

Oh, you are one of those "that's not true x!" faggots. So what is the correct form?

You are denying NATO war crimes or not?

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Democracy only works if everyone in your country is too rich to bribe and you have a homogeneous society with no outside forces posing a threat, like Bolshevism, Marxism, or Islam

It's less that it's "not true democracy" and more that it's a tiny democratic kernel in a colossal oligarchic shell.
Even if you don't want direct democracy, there are relatively simple fixes that would make our government drastically more democratic–holding elections under a system of single transferable vote rather than first-past-the-post, subsidizing elections and forbidding outside campaign funding, and applying strict antitrust rules to media companies, for a start. None of that is even particularly disruptive, since it ignores the wealth inequality issue that lies at the heart of it all.

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Maybe this world is another worlds hell.

I'm all for that but let's be realistic, we have issues that need to be dealt with now. Until then you cannot have that sort of state.

Didn't Churchill actually says:"I will drag the United States in this war?"
Also IIRC Japan proposed to retreat from China in exchange to the renew of trades with the US:Japan industry relied heavily on oil and iron from the US since at least the Russo-Japanese war, to which one interesting fact is this:

"War crimes" are a fucking joke,the only reason the tribunals existed was to humiliate and strip off the dignity of entire population.
Nürnberg one was literally a comedy: jewish prosecutors, torture to prisoners, proofs that no sane tribunal would take in (look this piece of paper that has no kind of original with plenty of errors or typo that don't conform to the format in use in Germany during those years is totally proof that Hitler alone killed 80 million jews by farting).And then you have Operation Paperclip and suddenly war criminals are good guy.
Same for Tokyo where Unit 731 was classified as "dindu nuffin,they wuz good boyz". Japs love this so they can deny it without problem

What did you expect when the subtitle was (((A New Colussus))). It's like the SHITMAN reboot all over again. Gif extremely related.


Fresh hot smuggie.

You're missing the point. They're repeating arguments presented to the devs by people trying to stop them joining antifa/punch a yahtzee/abandon civil society for a war they will lose. They don't realize the irony of saying we deserved to be punched through a billion layers intermediaries instead of to our faces. Please remember to think like a Leftist, project Nazi onto everyone because a Nazi is always bad.

Sadly violence is a valid political move, don't believe me?, then what are repressions for then?

That's like asking a Holla Forumsack what he wants and getting back "First step: gas the kikes and implement the ethnostate".
There are intermediary steps involved in achieving your final vision, you high time preference moron.

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I question why the KKK exists in NuWolfenstein's timeline. Aren't they fiercely pro-American, and thus would easily be at odds with the Nazi regime?

Oy vey.

Also to make it vidya related:
That single area could be "The Cradle" of Wolfenstien games.

That was my point.
Literally humiliation fetish for government officials,
Made a stunning progress in the medicine nobody would've tested out otherwise.

X-labs in RtCW
and Lopers as well as supersoldat were the staple creations

That would be a fantastic Twilight Zone episode.


Obviously those in power don't want the status quo to change–that's what keeps them secure and comfortable.
Humans are remarkably adaptable, changeable, and resilient. I don't think that "human nature" or any other inescapable condition is responsible for the world's shitty structure. I think it's just the people in charge acting in their own self-interest against regular people, whom they almost always secretly fear.
I think we are rapidly approaching a situation in which pure self-preservation, including these immediate issues you speak of, will force us to change these things. And if they continue to make reform impossible, they make revolution inevitable.


So? I'm just stating the goal. I know you don't go from the start line to the finish line in one step.

Leftists make up roughly 20% of the population. A massacre of that scale one ones own population is essentially unthinkable, given that another 30% of the people will be related to those individuals, at least another 10% will be neutral, and the vast majority of the remaining number will find such a mass killing abhorrent.

Even then, progressive leftism is a natural development of human thought, just like all forms of extremist thinking. It's a form of reaction to the "status quo", and such things will always occur. You can and should attempt to suppress it, but you can never destroy it.

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read a bible, champ

unfortunately, everyone feels the need to unironically politicize topics on Holla Forums because vidya games have become a target for the culture of critique

mad gay tbh

if nazis had won

That would be fucking insane, spooky and gory to the top.


I know don't worry user

I don't think the Nazis held the KKK in high regard either.

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The current condition of the world will force someone to play their hand before this shit gets too bad. You could say Trump is going to be the spark that will set this shit off. Plenty of people don't want him there and they will either have to deal with him soon or risk him ebbing away so much power from them that they won't be able to stop him. That said, I find it funny that people cry about "civic cucks" when even you know that you need to take steps to realize your dream. This leads me to believe that the only ones crying about civic nationalism are the ones fearing that loss of power and just good ol' useful idiots.
And i'm really serious about the concept of a unit 731 stage in a WW2 game being dank as fuck.

It would run counter to their German nationalism, yeah.

Well, there are two schools of thought on the matter. One is that, yes, violence is reprehensible no matter what and even Nazis and commies don't necessarily deserve to be attacked physically. This is the position of people who still think there's a national consensus.

The other is that, in a society where you have commies, Nazis, third-worldists, libertarians, Jews neoliberals, and gibs-hungry browns living together, all of which have radically different motivations, societal visions, interpretations of history, and value sets, peaceful and rational discourse is not really possible because most factions have extremely different desires for the future of the country. At best you have temporary alliances made to fuck over common enemies: Witness libertarians and Nazis making friends to fight with commies or neoliberal Jews making overtures to browns and socialists.

Everyone kind of cloaks in the language of "well, their speech is inherently violent :^(" but the reality is that force is the final argument when value sets are completely non-overlapping.

Wew lad!

Found the nigger

Reminder that democracy is a terrible idea. 80%+ of the population simply has no business having any power to influence the direction of this or any other country. The idea that people are equal in any way or have equal worth or stake in society is absurd. Equality is curiously absent in the natural world and trying to force it, often at gunpoint, onto society is a damn joke.

Trump is forcing the neolib democrats here in Ameri to shift toward being full fledged socdems or lose seats as the college-educated crowd is leaning left

that said we don't have the revenue nor the infrastructure to provide any of the entitlements they are after so it will be a mess

there is no real right of neolib in Washington at the moment but Trump's persona is so polarizing that neither side is able to stay on message

not to mention, even fair and 0% rigged democratic choices will leave up to 49% of the population dissatisfied.
also

What's with the arm?

That's called the old guard fighting to stay relevent. There will either be a huge event that will get them removed from power or fling us into a leftist shithole or we will see the left slowly whittle away within the next two years.

I never knew Nazi could be so reasonable.

That's true. Even the elites' media mouthpieces are openly admitting that normal people want something drastic to change. They think that they can sate this desire by slapping new faces on old policies, but they're wrong.
You could say Trump is going to be the spark that will set this shit off.
For what it's worth, I think Trump is a perfect example of dressing up the status quo in new clothes. The people who think he is some kind of singularly evil distortion of what was otherwise a functional system, or that he's a savior who will shake things up, are deluded. It's hard to have an unemotional conversation about him with most people.
This must be a bigger thing on Holla Forums than it is on Holla Forums, because I rarely see people talking about it.

not only this but legistlative systems encourage raiding of the public coffer; each newly elected government has to porkbarrell and raid as quickly as possible because there won't be time for it later

Nanomachines, son.

It's a Deus Ex prequel. He's becoming Adam Jensen.

I mean it's not, at least in the sense of "how should the country be for the next fifty to a hundred years and into the future." There's very little common ground between any of the groups jockeying for control. Neoliberals want something different (in the short term) from commies, who want something different from Nazis, who want something different from lolbergs.

You can debate about abstract principles, I can have a nice rational discussion with a commie or an ancap about the merits of their principles and ideas, but the things we value are far more different than similar. When you want to go one way and someone else wants to drag you another, diametrically opposed way, what is there to talk about?

What makes you think a good autocratic leader can arise from a population too incapable of upholding democracy?

You only need one person (or a handful) to be good enough to run the show.

it's the same problem leftpol may have with socdems or trots

If that WAS the case then the bread and circus would be a lot more grand than this. Trump is clearly doing something right considering ICE is able to function again and he's already ripping up onigger's legacy. Civic nationalism bashing is coming more from the more rabid fanatics of your board and the retards on Holla Forums that eat it up. It's like trying to bake a cake while skipping the part where you add flour. At the end of the day, you will only make a mess and waste resources.

The Third Reich had an absolute zero chance of every taking the United States. The logistics of supply lines alone would have made it impossible.

Patton wasn't just memeing when he proposed that the US should go in and take out the Russians at the end of the war. After their march into East Germany, the Russian supply lines were fucked. The Germans were careful with theirs - if it hadn't been for a two-front war, they could have easily marched in. The Russians threw together a haphazard war force and went in to rape and kill. With the establishment of bases across Europe and support from home, if (((certain individuals))) hadn't held Patton and the others back, we could have avoided literally 90% of the conflicts that have taken place in the past 100 years.

Taking that the other way around, attacking the US at its seat of power would have been suicide. The best that could he hoped for is peace, which still leaves the US as a superpower.


I'm not saying it's undesirable, just that it's not feasible.

Democracy is not equivalent to universal suffrage. You can still put limitations on who is allowed to vote within a nation. There are many flaws in republican government, but it's still the best that's been devised. The only issue is the system which frames it.

Career politicians, for instance, are the greatest part of the cancer. If you set term limits on representatives and senators in the US, for instance, you would completely eradicate the existence of figures like McCain and Sanders, who sit in office and continue to garner power for years until they become so entrenched they can never be thrown out.

The issue is, you need to set that up beforehand. The Founders never assumed career politicians would be a thing, because people just did not live as long, and had their own jobs and land to care for. That's no longer the case. Except now, said career politicians will never set limits - the only people advocating them are people like Rand Paul, who actually care about the people of their state.

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This is the leftist analogue. Trots are like the left's version of "it's not good enough because it's not literally Hitler rising from the grave" types.

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History nigga, history.

uncanny resemblance

people not learning history to prevent that deserve oppression, same as nations getting disarmed

Why would it need to be one? The Roman Senate had 600 members. Some of them were generals, who certainly had a reason to look past their needs as an individual and give a fuck about the future of their country. Depending on how things went, they could end up marching thousands of soldiers across the continent for no reason. It was only recently that whites started to worry about their own future, both in this country and as a race, with certain parties in power.

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all governments are monopolies on violence

whether that's good or bad lay in the use of power tbh

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This is why secession should be legal.


That was a really good way of getting that across. I understand exactly what you mean now.


I think it's pretty grand right now. Russophobia is higher than any time since the Cold War, at least among media mouthpieces. It's amazing.
Eh. His opposition to illegal immigration is commendable. That's the one thing he really does seem to have an actual opinion on. I've always been fine with actually enforcing immigration laws, so most of my thinking on the matter began and ended with, "It's about time."

On this i agree with Meyssan: he is still an unknown,if he was for sure a puppet the constant campaign against him, the tentatives to reach an impeachment,etc. would have not be made and continue.

The media is trying to rile up the normalfags but it's not working. If it was then you would see a lot more anti-trump sentiment. At most they can only find useful goyim in state capitals.

why is zizek posting here?

But is the Russia shit even for the benefit of the people? I don't know that anyone outside the political class even cares about it.

I would advocate a dictionary definition Republic but we all know who it would be composed of.

Realistically, Balkanization please. Make sure you've got a nuke though because you'll be labelled a rogue state from day one.


Fucking this. I'll admit he's being co-opted left and right but
I know there's another huge win I'm missing but I'm not fool enough to believe he's got the delousing agent primed.

Autocratic government is only as good as the autocratic leader. History has proven that "greatness" as a leader is not a genetic trait - it's something acquired. Look at the dynasty's of China for a good example of this - every one begins with a "great" leader, and then ends corrupt and decadent. Then they wind up overthrown, and things are good again. But in that interim period? That's when you see things at their worst.


If you honestly think the great majority of autocratic leaders have given a shit about leaving a legacy, you know absolutely nothing about history. For every Gustavus Adolphus or Frederick the Great, there has been a dozen leaders with zero ambition, and zero talent -
or worse, zero talent, but a lot of ambition.

Further, while you may claim that an autocratic leader has to constantly worry about revolt, that's hardly the full issue. The simple fact is, the power that an autocratic leader has is more than enough to deal with any rebellion. History shows that the military will very rarely go against the standing government - and only in the case of a military coup. This just leaves the common people, most of whom will have no interest in a war. "Revolt" of any sort is not so easy a thing, or we would be seeing it far more often.

Past that:

Term limitations are extremely useful within a republican government, because it prevents complacency among the people. Humans are drawn to like sameness. If you prevent the same person from running for office over and over again, people will see two or more different faces - and only then will they actually consider the options.

This, of course, needs to be combined with limitations on who can vote. Belief on limitation to suffrage varies - for my part, I don't think anyone who hasn't been paying taxes for at least seven years and passed the tests required for US citizenship should be allowed to vote. Perhaps something even stricter.

Honestly, it's thanks to the media that I still support Trump. When I have doubts about what to do, I just look at what the Jews do and immediately do the opposite.


CNN has explicitly stated that there's no evidence of Russian anything and they only push it for ratings.

whats the deal with that faggot ayway?

It serves a route for the Democrats as well as threatened Republicans such as McCain II charge Trump with a crime based on a number of federal statutes from the 60s and 70s, charging him with treason for "collusion" under Russian spy law

A saying I heard perfectly explains this. "Hard times create strong people. Strong people create good times. Good times create weak people. Weak people usher in bad times."

But, like, who watches CNN? Every time I try to watch that drivel I'm just bored to tears- it doesn't even make me angry. Am I just that alienated and there are actually tons of shitlibs breathlessly tuning in to watch Anderson Cooper or whatever tell them how the impeachment of Drumpf is going?

some marxist with a terrible lisp that makes him incomprehensible. Holla Forums cums at the thought of him mainly cause he's really the only famous leftist out there who isn't a complete redditor/tumblr faggot.

Lots of culture of critique and dialectics
Hates outer space and having children
Gigantic fucking fag to be honest

I don't think he's a puppet per se, just that he's acting form a place of pure id, rather than principle.


I know. I think we're in perfect agreement on that fact, actually.


Because there are no other websites where there are regular opportunities to shitpost about Hegel and Lacan.


No, it's so they can preserve their idea of America as a set of principles and vague virtues that they think they embody. It's an attempt to delegitimize the election so they can soothe their cognitive dissonance.

Yes, that is exactly the case.

Exactly.
It gets even worse nowadays, since we've essentially reached the limits of "hard times". It's essentially impossible for a war to take place between civilized countries today, what with the existence of nuclear weapons. Which leaves only minor engagements against insurgent forces and others with an "ideology" to fight for rather than land.


Whenever I go out of town and see the news on in a waiting room or whatever, it's almost always CNN. Unless I'm in my home town - then it's Fox. It's the other channels that I wonder about. Who the fuck watches MSNBC?

literally reddit
also post timestamp with ur face

Old people.


OK, then non-shit places where you can shitpost about Hegel and Lacan.

He may be a leftist but at least he can properly state his case without losing his shit like most of Holla Forums and the spergs who drag Holla Forums down. Not to mention he does understand the need of securing your nation before enacting leftist civic changes. If anything it goes to show that at the end of the day human preservation will always kick in.

My dad, oddly enough. I always thought MSNBC had a larger base than CNN since they always seemed more professional and put together. I have a huge hateboner for Rachel Maddow.

Absolutely correct. They were more or less at the end of their rope, and the memes about 'Soviet reliability' are largely horseshit, as their AFVs and other equipment beside small arms too simple to fuck up were more or less as mechanically unreliable as the most troubled German projects without any of the actual or on paper qualitative advantage except in the early stages of Barbarossa where two specific components of their tank park, the T-34 and KV-1, were armored against German doorknocker guns that they frankly shouldn't have gone in with in the first place, but did so anyways because German procurement drug their feet the entire early war instead of crash developing next generations of things a year or so ahead of necessary mass production and Wilhelm Canaris is a seditious retard who vastly underestimated Russian abilities and criminally misinformed Hitler and his staff.

This, however, is laughable. The Germans did wonders with the railway system while it remained non-cratered out, but otherwise their supply lines in Russia were rather a mess. Lack of motorization and horse & cart supply/gun movement do not a stable supply line make. Less than strategic procurement- IE, the total lack of a competent strategic bomber and long range escort fighter thanks to Walther Wever dying in a freak plane crash, the rushed development & deployment of the Tiger I & MAN Panther and the cancellation of less advanced potential interim tanks to make way for them like the VK 36.01 that could've been readier earlier and more reliably were it not for the phantom Russian superheavy scare- did not help the Germans logistically on the operational level either. Be a little more careful with your statements.

This is more or less correct without some very, very serious butterflies, and early ones at that so they can snowball. However, assuming mutually deployable atomic weapons don't enter into the picture and that anti-bomber defense abilities rise enough for the Axis that they won't have much chance of being dropped by B-29 onto a line battle either, that the Germans/European Axis clean up their end of Eurasia with the Soviets cast out entirely and a British capitulation/Mosleyan coup, and that the Japanese can squeak out a strategic & material victory in the Pacific (IE, destroy a shitload of boats to proportionally fewer losses of their own, likely by way of younger naval officers successfully lobbying to modify the Kantai Kessen/decisive battle doctrine to emphasize the attritional aspects involving escort destruction & submarine kill nets and fully incorporating their potentially very strong naval aviation earlier rather than futilely looking for a perfect battleship line battle) regardless of how much island hopping the Americans succeed in on the way to an Indochina & Home Islands stonewall, a death by a thousand cuts of the American will to wage war and of their effective regaining of ability to return to it through incessant coastal raids, industrial bombing & rocket attacks, and the occupation of overshore US dominions plus aggressive stationing in friendly South American powers can be acquired, forcing out the wartime government and ending on a technically negotiated peace, de facto the US being forced to recognize that they can't cross either ocean to strike down the other superpowers effectively and neither can the reverse be realistically done. After that, cold war, and an invasion of the US mainland in '46 or '47 without any break from total warfare becomes a quaint alternate history scenario that exists mostly to trigger the shit out of amateur historians along the lines of people saying 'what if Seelowe' in our timeline, with little feasibility to it even if it was technically possible.

I love you guys.

10/10 image.

Thanks, user.


Breddy gud.

beautiful

lmao

I only know he has lisp and hates political correctness.
Beyond that, I know nothing.

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Tropico thead?

I love the rise of ironic Nazbol shitposting more than I care to admit.


He's a socialist philosopher, psychoanalyst, and (for some reason) film critic. He's written an absurd number of books, but the only important one is The Sublime Object of Ideology.

You lost me.


You're right that "careful" may have been an overstatement - a better phrase may have been "more carefully than the Russians". But, that again goes back to the matter of the two-front war, and comparatively haphazard matter of executing things.


I just call myself "The Once and Future King". You need a golden sword to make the sell, though.

That's literally the title he used.
Hell has frozen over, literally was used correctly

This somehow makes it even more hilarious.

top heh

The dialogue is about 25-27 minutes in. Someone else can download and snip the footage if they really want it.

What? Nuremberg laws were far more lenient than you apparently think.

Hell, it was so lenient that you had half jews serving in the lower officer ranks during WW2.

Oh, but I get shit on whenever I post Alunya? Faggots.

With the relative caveat, the statement is true. The Soviets, in spite of deep battle doctrine noting the importance of keeping logistics in order to allow for materiel-expensive deep thrusts, pocket holdouts and deep semi-elastic defense lines whenever necessary, at least to my amateurish knowledge of its workings, more or less constantly outstripped their supply lines if I'm not mistaken and would have to halt before resuming now and again. I maintain the belief that it was German military & procurement unvirtues and severe logistical hamstringing that allowed the Soviets to take the counteroffensive, and not their own virtues.

Yes

Maybe you just need to collect more smug Alunyas.

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Trump's useful because he's so polarizing, his presence will make things boil over leaving room for the more radical elements to move, both on the right and on the left.

Alunya is pure, you kulak.

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That cat really likes pork meat. :^)

Perfect.


He's relying on the social capital he built up not being a completely underhanded sperg all thread. Whether or not he and the Natsocs indulging him are all Holla Forums, given the left's propensity for underhanded tactics, remains to be seen.

That and sometimes it's nice to have a civil discussion from the other side. You can't have this type of talk on Holla Forums OR Holla Forums. What a strange place.
Wonder where the games are though.

I'm just not mad. Would you prefer if I were mad?

The thread was (rightly) bumplocked hours ago. Games were never an option.

It's little gems like these threads that keep me here.

What did I just say about being underhanded, say nothing if you're going to lie.

full conversation.

The irony of this entire thing both enrages me and depresses me at the same time. I hate this.

Whatever you say.

The funny thing is that this shit and the CoD cunt pisses me off more than Holla Forums could ever have.

Are you telling me what my own intentions were? Or are you saying a sage post saying "I'm not mad" is ever true?

Kaczynkski was right, pls get more self esteem for the sake of effective communication. No, I'm not trying to be patronizing

Come on, son.

The watermark just adds to it.

Guess I'm just autistic, I always remove watermarks as a habit.

The only actual reboot was TOB, a "retelling" of RTCW's first act that basically rewrote the whole plot to keep everything consistent. Wolf3D is canon in all games, note how they always deliberately avoid mentioning Hitler.

They ones to talk shit about Nazi's, almost a fucking century after taking a stance might have actually meant having to pick up a gun and defending their principals.

mmm dat janky attack animation.
Bethesda quality.

A guard in London in TNO says "Heil Hitler."

It wasn't really a retelling. Since like I said in that same game, BJ mentions the X-Labs. A level in RTCW.


That's most likely because lolGermany because Germany is the biggest PC gaming market in Europe and they want to avoid controversy whenever possible. It's also why the German versions of TNO completely removed all of the swastikas and references to Nazis.