Does anyone else roll their eyes at the culture of reactionary stereotypical masculinity?

Does anyone else roll their eyes at the culture of reactionary stereotypical masculinity?

Fuck off to some mgtow board l.

Who cares what normies think.

Yeah girlfriend guys should not be afraid to ignore oppressive gender norms

I felt that way, and then I read Murray Bookchin and now I do not feel bothered by the aforementioned problem.

they are right about the video game thing, you are a slave to porky's high fantasy role playing games that keep you from become class conscious

video games are literally good for your hand eye coordination and reaction times. Also burns much more calories than TV or even reading.

What kind of place are you from where they think this, the 1800's?

Any proofs ?

That's not really "masculinity". You should get a job simply because you have to feed yourself under capitalism, and the more educated and advanced you go, the more you can help the cause. Communism will still need doctors and engineers. We will stop work as drudgery. That is the difference. As for playing video games, that's all fine if you're young, but it shouldn't take over your adult life. When you do that, you are merely existing for entertainment. Remember to climb the ladder of excellence every day, not for anyone else, but for you. Now, if video games truly make you happy, I'm sure you will be able to do that under communism too.

But don't stop masturbating. Masturbation releases endorphins and calms the mind and relaxes the body. I do it every night and every morning, even though I have sex with my wife most days. I find that my erections are quite solid and hope to keep them this way into my late years. Sexual health is important after all.

Just focus on being the best version of yourself that you can be. Now, what that best version looks like is up to you to decide, but drive for it. This is what it means to be human, not just a man. Good luck, comrade.

I don't really care about masculinity in general, so probably the wrong person to ask.
Always just seems like a dick waving contest to me

Forced femdom relationships now!

I just ignore it, most of it comes from fatfuck faggots anyways. Though I am fairly ambitious and will hopefully make leftist propaganda films soon.

Stereotypical masculinity is revered because it is generally beneficial for everyone. That isn't to say it is best for you and you must not pretend to be something you are not. However, not being in charge of your own destiny and were you go in life is set to make you very unhappy. Working a job is AN EXAMPLE of how you can dictate your path through life. Things like videogames tend to be a distraction. Fun in the immediate but ultimately pointless to your future self.

What does Bookchin say?


Yeah I agree. Gender roles need to be stamped out. Hate the culture of drinking, aggressiveness, emotionlessness, promiscuity and extroversion that's encouraged in men. I imagine many women feel the same about being encouraged to buy makeup, be quiet and feminine etc.

Yeah sometimes.
"Yeah, nah, fuck off cunt" is my response.

Wtf, I hate being a NEET now!

spoiler/kill me please./spoiler/

Well, "masculinity" is a fairly broad and vague thing. The things you mention and the men who engage in them are scum, but opposing it on the grounds of "masculinity" in general instead of just them being scum can lead to telling people to stop being so masculine, thats terrible for anything that could be construed as such. Which is just as obnoxious as being told you're not masculine enough, stop being such a pussy. Fuck off in either case. also,
C'mon now, women have toxicity and gross shit they're encouraged by gender too, not just things they have to deal with the expectations of.

its probably true but thats only because you're moving your fingers a bit more than you would while reading or watching TV

it's not any significant calorie burning otherwise everyone in /r9k/ wouldn't be some lardass

What the fuck happened to this board?

When and where did all these faggots come from? Back in the election days you guys here were shitting on liberals and now all i see are liberal threads.

Did you fuckers link the site to the wrong place?

We got immigration from /r/socialism after their ban on catgirls.

That is not hard.

Mass influx of redditors. Holla Forums took them in to combat all the redditors that swarmed Holla Forums.
Soon this will become PoliticsChan, and every board will be a derivative of Holla Forums or Holla Forums. It legitimately saddens me.

I agree with them when it comes to nature and outdoorsmanship, more people need to get out of their houses.

the entire site is fucked. i got a huge ban from /tg/ for saying "I dont like Trump or Clinton, they're the same" in an off-topic meta thread where people were discussing politics (AKA circlejerking over trump). despite the fact that i contributed over 100 PDFs in various share threads.
not sure why i even lurk any more. i'm too old for this shit.

Nobody should be trying to be masculine though. Once you start putting in the conscious effort to be manly, everybody is immediately aware of what you're doing.

how is this liberalism?

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I DON'T EVEN FUCKING LIKE POLITICS
Is that thread still up, by any chance?

Or in 8chans case, banning ip's for "shilling" and having politicaly excellent ideas on ethics and how to run a country

At least I can hide in /liberty/s purely ideological bunker until you both wipe yourselves out.

Most people here get banned for blatant shitposting or not reading the FAQ, even when pointed to it.

Really makes you think

How the fuck did I autocorrect "excellent" out of "problematic"

To be fair, if Holla Forums should be affiliated with any political system, it should be anarchism. That's just the natute of anonymous imageboards.

well, yes, thats right. thats what

says. being spooked about "muh toxic masculinity" is just as bad though. So its important to note that someone just happening to feel or act in a way that would be seen as more "Masculine" isnt the same as buying into and trying to mold yourself to that bullshit.

I'm a woman and I actually do prefer traditionally masculine men, so not really. I feel kind of bad about it because I'm a feminist.

well i'm not a woman it's not really my area of expertise

Both me.
Odds are you'd just feel more tempted to act that way because this concept of gender tradition and its rules are told often, especially to children.

Why do you feel bad for your sexual preferences? That's silly.

Year, And the no-fap cucks that seem to flock to it.

I've seen a number of people banned for bringing up the fact that they have conservative ideals even when thry acknowledge that they came here to discuss left wing ideas rather than shitpost "racial inequality studies" or whatever Holla Forums decides what argument will be the best way to btfo Holla Forums will be this week

You guys are better at not being completely fucking paranoid and banning people when they show even the slightest hint of not being a part of the echo-chamber though, so kudos to you guys.


I never really considered the fact that anarchists come here to talk about collectives with the rest of leftypol, I was just addressing the statists that worship socialism and tell political opponents to go to gulags.

/liberty/ is just Holla Forums-lite though

As a man I also prefer "feminine" and short girls and I don't feel bad about it. Feminism is about taking the whole thing out of the equation in the first place.

And now that you're here, is it true that 99.9% of girls prefer to be dominated? A lot of people here seem to like femdom but it seems it only exists in fiction.

It doesnt really matter if its somewhat pyschologically intrinsic(it is) or if its learned in childhood(it also is, at least a little), if its just how you're inclined to behave thats not the same as working to live up to an idea of "being a man" and being afraid of failing that, or otherwise attaching your self worth to it.
It doesn't look the same either.

Why? Boring work will still need to be done and getting a larger share of the production won't suddenly make a boring job fun.

Say hello to the wordfilter, newfag.

We mean that you won't work a shit job for shit pay forever and do that for most of your adult life. We will probably work less than 8 hours a day.

Not her but statistics and my personal experience shows that to be true. Of course most are unfortunately vanilla and don't want sadism, but they prefer dominant men. I've only met two that were into femdom, and one was a lolbert with nationalist tendencies. So I guess hit the gym and keep a 5 o'clock shadow if you want a gf.

Chances are while they profess certain ideals or open-mindedness they're shitposting elsewhere or even in the same thread, and that whatever post ends up receiving the ban might not be precisely what they are getting banned for.

t. mod

this is why you'll be replaced by artificial wombs and sexbots tbqh

Even though I like that pol is all for free markets and believes fervently fight for letting people hold onto their national identity and abhor multiculturism, I cant stomach the way they parade "if you dont agree with us and swallow the red-pill, we will force you to swallow the 9mm one" around like death-squads did anything but breed resenent and I hate how they believe in having a "national identity messiah" who they pool all their hopes and resources towards as if they can understand or even do anything for their personal interests.

If anything I have more in common with comm-anarchists than Holla Forums because at least they know how stupid it is to give somebody any amount of power over you, especially when they have a manufactured monopoly on violence and can incarcerate or even murder you with little consequence for themselves.

It seems like it.

I've met only one and she was crazy as fuck.

Being on a rotating schedule doing necessary but dull work is a world removed from being consigned from birth to pointless drudgery because you were born in the wrong class.

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>>>/test/

honestly im pretty sure this is cultural. I think *anyone* can be turned on by someone of the oppisite sex being 'dominant'.
Someone aggressively coming onto you sexually is, well, extremely sexual. If you actually want it thats extremely arousing.

Thanks for clarifying.

Thanks fam, lurking really doesnt teach you how to be cool and italicize unless some newfag like me needs his hand held and its brought up in the thread.

You people could at least not remove the god damn posts after banning them for the sake of context.

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I guess, but I'm mostly talking about sex and to a lesser degree relationships. Personally I'm dom so it's no issue for me, but I do feel sorry for femdom guys who have slim pickings.

it's not just sex, but also general personalities

shy/quiet men have a tough time

We don't always, or at least they shouldn't be unless it's just a bunch of shitposts or spam or whatever. Our options are either delete individually, delete by thread, or delete by IP, and if it's just Nazi shitpost after Nazi shitpost I don't blame anyone that just burns it all down.


No problem. Sometimes mods do make mistakes or have other human failings, so it's important to question bans or other actions you don't feel are appropriate for the board.

In the mod thread, please. Nothing is more annoying than autismo spamming threads because a mod was mean to him or did something he doesn't like.

Unfortunately shy guys and girls keep to themselves, which can make it hard to really get to know them at all, and unless you're Chad Rockbody and get sexually objectified the only way to make the necessary emotional connection is via conversation, which lots of shy nerds also shrink from.
A few months ago someone was on here raging about Stacies and Chads and how women are only into this and that and how unjust it was that all of his awesome personal qualities were overlooked, but when pressed he admitted he doesn't talk to anyone or do anything social. So, really, how is anyone supposed to fall for you if no one knows anything about you?

then you're cool in my book

I've seen too many proto-fascist pinochet worshippers on /liberty/

And I don't mean you specifically but you in the general sense.

i just want someone to like me

Screencapped this to repost everytime someone complaines about chads and stacys or japans falling birthrate is brought up.

no bully amber theme please ;-;

How do you get these themes, user? Asking for a friend.

We have so many shitposters from both statist-heavy boards come to /liberty/ to shitpost, recruit and meme

He probably just finished skimming the glossary of atlas-shrugged and thought he could tackle free market Macroeconomics as a basis of running a community and succeded in making the rest of us look bad.

He is on like, level 2 or 3 individualist shitposting

Most of us are on like 4 or 5 of spook bashing.

ignore hoppe,he has a huge and all-encompassing disdain for plebs on a genocidal level

There's nothing wrong with that my dude, but you've got to show yourself to people a bit so they know what's there to like, you know?

I-I'm too shy.

Afraid of being mocked by women.

To the gulag. Emotions are poison, and emotional people are contemptible.

Fuck off autist

QED

What are you talking about? the only group of people that has anything against video games are SJWs. I know cuz Holla Forums told me so, and Holla Forums it's made of pure ingenuity smartness.

Don't talk to girls then. You can't just start out at the budokan m8, you gotta work your way up

How old are you OP? Once you move out and have a job that kind of shit stops unless your family are a bunch of assholes.

How stupid do you have to be to think this? Good ban imo.

that's the problem

vidya is a waste of time, everyone needs diversion tho.
there's nothing wrong with being ambitious. being revolutionary is ambitious.
how is doing something you are passionate about wrong?
some of the traditional manly values are pretty cool. just take the good parts and leave the bad ones lmao

But also teach women the good parts.

lel Shy girls don't have it tough if they are 5 out of 10 or above, it's like a beacon to all men to get stuck in, as they feel no inferiority as they would with an outgoing 9.

Are engineers really paid badly?

reminder

That anime had so many good girls they really fucked it not making it better.

i might take it more seriously if the people who support it weren't all effeminate, obese or autistic

Most men support it, they don't even realise they are being attacked for masculinity, they get on with their lives. The autistic are the ones that reeeeeeee about how fucked up it is because they don't get the fruits of the masculinity, and are listening to the signalling from those attacking it at the same time, causing huge disconnect and anger.

I do nofap, it helps me get girls, and it works for me so fuck off with that place bo shit.

Pure placebo and its only real effect is giving you a 32% higher risk of prostate cancer.

It is vital to nofap for men used to porn every day when trying to fuck woman. The brain needs to reset and find the little things arousing again. Especially now that all men are watching porn from early teens.

You are getting along, emotionally attracted, attracted to their face, but you've beaten off 60 times that week already. Go a month without the fap and the smell of her hair will drive you insane. It's magical.

Yeah, it's great. Girls who look normal turn me on now, life is so much better. Feels like I have been missing out on all of these good looking women because my mind was fucked. Also, when I watched porn, I didn't even watch that hardcore shit, just pictures of women with nice figures doing nice dances, so think how bad someone who watches that hardcore shit has it.

If you're not able to get it up because you watch porn, maybe you're not actually that interested in sex? You know you can always turn it down for another time, right?

Like hell, why do men think they need to be 100% ready to fuck at any moment? Chill out

It's subjective for everyone, dumb ass. Some people don't need it but it has made my quality of life much better.

MtF who faps 3 times a day to hardcore fetish porn and still fucks her gf routinely. Porn isn't an obstacle if you're not a hopeless mess

mate

Either she's not much of a looker or you're not that interested in girls. Give boning guys a try

It works for me. Maybe, it works for some other guys, the only way to know is try.


Aight now yall niggas hurting my feelings.

Reminder that obesity causes sexual dysfunction.

If you're fat and you're bad in bed, try losing some weight before swearing off porn. It's healthier

Yeah, i was beating off thrice a day because I didn't want sex, come on. I recognised I wasn't having sex like I used to, and could be having sex, and I was the problem beating off and satisfying that part of my brain with zero physical. Nothing will ever beat having sex with a woman, and when you are back at it you curse your unhappy self for wasting time.

The next problem is casual sex and the problems that brings when you replace your porn with chasing woman. That is not happyness either.

And that's why Tinder is degenerate as fuck

materialists can't into spiritualism, news at 11

wew, it's just a hobby mate

forgot my sharia-posting flag

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Dedicating your life to no sex, when you want physical intimacy, is devastating for a man. I said sex is not happiness, I know that well, and know real happiness because you are high everything fades into the backround, and you instantly can see a future, and anxiety of life, are trivialised.

But you don't get there by neglecting human contact and having confidence in your sexual desirability.

I like getting shit done and improving humanity. Go join a drum circle you worthless pile of human garbage

Holla Forums here. serious question, whats the difference between nazbol and Nazi?

wtf is this hypocrisy? Toxic masculinity what about toxic femininity. Stop u normie fags. Go back to reddit.

also what the fuck is up with leftypol word filters?

Nazis are just nationalists and can run the gamut economically from libertarian to social democrat. Depends on who you ask, really. Hitler was nominally a socialist but fairly moderate, nationalising as much as he privatised.

Nazbols are nationalists but also want the means of production to be in the hands of the workers.

For me that means actually WORKERS, not hippie dippie arts students looking for a handout because they truly believe their artistic expression is God's gift to the planet and they deserve to be able to smear menstrual blood on canvas 40 hours a week

So what about the idea of people, and identity? Do they desire to preserve cultural and ethnic space?

How do nazbols feel about usury? I would say opposition to it is a pretty important factor for nazis

lel nazis kept interest and banking fine and intact

yeah, I'm a nationalist

Hitler was more anti usury in theory than he was in practice. I'm more of a credit union man myself

1st one: 40+ year old normalfags
2nd one: reddit '/r/nofap'fags

nofap thats dumb. If they wanna keep their semen in they can just swallow it after fapping.

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last time I tried it, it didn't work

One of the core problems of /r9k/ is the absolute refusal to improve their situation.

And not just that, they take immense pleasure in making others as miserable as they are.

Thanks for the tip, I promise to only use this image for evil.

This in general is a stupid arguments, but it also depends on what ur currently doing. if you're an unproductive neet, then ye people can and will judge you for it. its your choice not to care though


its bad because its escapism, and vidya are littered with liberal ideology. but again, if you're class conscious and productive it's ok if used as entertainment


only autists on Holla Forums and /fit/ say this. no one will ever say that to you irl, its not the 50s

I don't roll my eyes, I just recognize that I share some traits that may fall into that category and others that don't. I roll my eyes when some one makes a big deal of it though, op.

My advisor's advice about engineering
Srly you are better off as a scum sucking medical doctor, lawyer, or salesman, and don't think there are any better paying professions beyond those three.

I feel you fam but honestly you just have to forget that they're women. Just strip them down to a person plain and simple it's always going to hurt when you're rejected but if you're genuinely a kind person people will notice and connect with you. The hard part is being able to show it.

shy girls are qt/10, don't know what they think about shy bois, but I think there's a market breadline? for them. But I feel you.

Repetitive work should be FULLY AUTOMATED MAAAAN!!!!!

So the Mods just don't give a shit because they prefer the higher postnumber?
If that's the case then they are pretty much sacrificing their own board. Pretty sad.

Eh,things will go back like it used to in 1-2 months hopefully.

Yeah, the steady user count decline shows that they haven't got the stomachs for it.