Why are anarchist men so pornsick?

youtube.com/watch?v=q2wZbLQUMYs

This is fucking heartbreaking, anarchist men disrupting and pissing on leftist women who know the horrors of the sex industry first-hand. Why does this shit fucking happen?

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Pic related, it's OP.

What makes you assume she's a lifestylist? Because she has teal hair and wears a keffiyeh?

Case closed. I'm gonna go pull one out to a latina getting her ass stuffed with cock now.

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Dropped.

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I like watersports and would piss on her too.

The youtuber who uploaded the vid is a major TERF.

The people here don't know what a TERF is and that all the boogie monster feminists they hate are TERFs.

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yeah it's those TERFs that are the problem, not purple-haired tumblr monsters

There are anarchist critiques of porn though.

The only way she worked in the sex industry is if she was involved in vomit porn

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This TERF is a dye haired bitch though. And TERF is probably some of the worst symptoms of demographic myopia, like white nationalism.

She's speaking about one of the women who organized the anti-porn panel with her.

And here's an anarchist critique of identity politics. What's your point?

theanarchistlibrary.org/library/lupus-dragonowl-against-identity-politics

into the trash it goes

Anti-porn isn't idpol. If anything, "i'm a sex worker!" has become idpol.

Don't they? I've heard it plenty at least, and I dont even hang around tumblr.

you leave mai waifu out of this!

ones of my friends is a camgirl. it's weird but the sentiment among camgirls tends to be that they're antiporn but it's a necessary evil because it's good money and they usually do it with a shitty min wage job.

i hang around her mfc and inflate her viewer count with a few of our friends

A lot of people in the sex industry have made that point, that they're really only in it because the money is good and it pays more than retail work. Of course, it also comes with huge risks (disease, physical abuse, mental abuse, etc.).

There is literally nothing wrong with being a lifestylist.

TERF ideology encapsulates why I hate (most) feminists but a lot of feminists manage to keep the parts I find extremely objectionable while tolerating (or even lionizing) transgender people.

If your politics have reached a point where you need to make ideological critiques of the concept of pornography (as opposed to of particular industry practices), you need new politics.

Should've known
Literally every TERF I have ever met has been an obnoxious retard

A sizable part of Marxism is critiquing the cultural superstructure. That's part of the reason why we don't give fascists a platform or allow for racist imagery.

Kek those are the same thing

A lot of young ones are pretty bad I admit. I mean I was off the rails about stupid shit when i was 17 too. I live to give them the benefit of the doubt because at least they're starting to engage in criticism about social structure even if they haven't gained class consciousness yet and realized that most issues are based in that

Better than being a 16 year old wannabe fascist, sieg heiling at a camera in NYC to impress your online friends

She's solo, but I assume it takes a toll on her mental state having to go along and giggle at some pretty vile comments in order to get tipped.

That's not really saying much.

If your fight is for human emancipation, as Marxism should be, it can't also be against depictions of sexuality which millions if not billions enjoy.

If your fight is for "stop liking what I don't like" wrapped up in quasi-Marxist rhetoric, it's not mine, and it's one you're always gonna lose.

There is literally nothing wrong with being a moron.

Why would you stop looking at smut, whether you be trap, reverse trap, gay, bi, straight, man or woman.

Nobody on earth should stop looking at smut. That's a pretty stupid decision to make tbh.

litearlly kys

Except this description could apply to anything. There are comrades who protest speakers like Ayan Hirsi Ali implying she promotes western imperialism towards Muslims. It's literally no different than going after the porn industry for promoting woman hateric images of women.

Most anarcho-syndicalists are also lifestylists. Unless you work for an industrial union outside of your IWW clique then you're basically LARPing.

Embracing biological determinism and wanting policy to be based on controlling members of "dangerous" demographics is loathsome in any context, whether far-right or "feminist". It's not about being young and stupid; it's about embracing outright bigotry - and it's not excusable at any age.

Radical feminists aren't going to put you into a concentration camp. Calm down you alarmist nut job. We're not talking about Amazonians or anything

implying she doesn't

I don't think what he's saying is alarmist at all. No where did he imply that. What he said was that it was bigotry. Supposedly, just because they don't have power means they don't want it.

I mean all idpol is trash but to pretend that idpol backed or enforceable by the state and anti-normative idpol are equally dangerous is just intellectually dishonest

And that makes their politics any more acceptable? Most of the movements we go left-sectarian on here have an order of magnitude less influence than feminism - I mean, look at the threads Trots get.

It's just really counter intuitive to compare our political enemies with a movement which is overzealous and oversensitive sometimes just because we don't like idpol

You guys have it backwards. Tumblr/bougie feminists *hate* TERFs.

Bumping for a shit thread.

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TERF's are the peak of the "left" wing of idpol dude.

They're both our political enemies.

Both serve the same social function; to convert outrage at the class system into outrage with disfavored demographic groups, and in doing so get people to fight each other and see the (identity) bourgeoisie as their allies.

And that means we should embrace them?
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Mainstream feminists are by and large TERFS. On tumblr it's pretty much a civil war between them

Never implied that, just wanted to straighten up the the who's who of shitty idpol discussion going on.


Mainstream feminism is pretty trans-inclusive nowadays. TERFs are pretty much autistically screeching into the wind by themselves.

can't wait for the "hitler was a socialist" follow-up post

It's a joke fam.

Untrue. The main enemy of feminism, historically, has been the state and not individual people and even recently with the women's march, it was directed at the government and not the men living under them.

Still idpol and shortsighted, but it's a common enemy.

You haven't done anything. I didn't even reply to a post about Tumblr. You just brought it up now.

What even the fuck. TERF's are largely a splinter movement doxxing trans women at this point.

the shitposting is too strong these days it's killing my sense of humor

I hope you're not making this up user, cause that's pretty funny.

Also, you're implying TERFs can't be bourgeois. As if one's ideology determines one's relationship to production.

I'd say yeah, you're right, but the demographics and the way they portray themselves don't show it, you know? Got fucking pussy hats and ovary patches on their jackets

So far I know, Feminists hate transmen, because they "betrayed" the cause and sided with the patriarchy, but are accepting towards transwoman.

Transbians that's TERF territory, since these are men, who transitioned but are still attracted to women. Feminist lesbians (the ones who were straight but then realised they hate men and started dating women as an argumentum e contrario) date them, because they now have a valid excuse to act upon their true sexuality.
While non-feminist lesbians (the ones who were born attracted to women) basically regard them as dudes in dresses who creep up on them.

There are nuances (remember there are over a brazillion genders and sexualities) but these seem to be the biggest camps.

I'm sure they can be, but there's a certain brand of mainstream feminism and it ain't friendly to TERFs.

Only because they lost the election. First feminists endorsed and voted en masse for a neoliberal imperialist, and now they're launching protests which don't materially challenge the capitalist system - just Trump's record on feminism!

I'm aware that revolutionary, anti-capitalist feminist parties existed in the past, and good for them, but I can only engage with the political movements which exist in the present.

Just because something is mainstream doesn't mean it's right or wrong. Argumentum ad populum.

Show me your max squat

This is my fetish, regardless of sex.

Why?

TERFs are the opposite here. Hating transwomen for trying to steal their victim status, and "accepting" towards transmen. Unfortunately it is only superficial as they will not acknowledge the transmen's gender, still referring to them as women.

why not?

Do you know how fucking mad feminists were about Clinton laughing about defending a rapist? And about her demonizing Lewinski so that Bill could get off the chopping block? I do agree that they definitely wouldn't be protesting like this though, if she had won. Look though, we have civil unrest and a mobilized group of many many people.

Feminism is a bourgeois ideology. Socialism already includes gender equality, and I mean real equality, not this fucking bullshit feminists bitch about. The way I've heard "Marxist feminists" talk about their brand of feminism is basically just fucking socialism. I can get on board with that, but feminism as it stands today is cancer and the term should be thrown to the scrap heap of history.

blah blah blah blah

You didn't read the rest of my post. I differentiate between bourgeois feminism and Marxist feminism. The two are very different, but I think we should simply throw away the term.

You know what's a true bourgeois ideology? Front yard culture

Heil meine Konigin! For the motherland!

That's more of a practice than ideology. I don't think front yards have more than aesthetics attached to them.

But that's exactly the point. There are feminists/minority activists/whatever who focus on identity issues purely as a defense against societal pressures to conform to state identity. Those people correctly recognize the state and its relation to capital as the true source of oppression

We shouldn't deride those people as "idpol" just because they use some of the same words as dipshits who just like bright colors and hate men/white people

By and large, they were not mad enough to withhold their endorsement and campaign for her in the primary. Nor were they mad enough to stand up to cynical attacks from the Clinton camp trying to paint Sanders as a sexist and his supporters as "brocialists". (Yes, I'm aware of exceptions - but they represent a small minority of the feminist movement.)

I absolutely think we should try to mobilize public anger at the Trump administration, much of which comes from self-identified feminists. But if that anger is mobilized on behalf of the feminist movement in its current state it can only lead to nominal "victories" like electing a woman to worsen inequality and bomb the middle east.

Either we fight for the whole proletariat, on behalf of political movement which incorporates the whole proletariat, or we lose.

I think it's there's also a lot of resentment among TERFs about how other feminists can be self-congratulating about accepting trans women, while women are still struggling with basic shit like reproductive rights (issues that are exclusive to biological women), etc.

I think there is more to it. Think of how neighbors with unkempt grass are demonized by the neighborhood

Anarcho + marxism feminism >>>>>>>> liberal and radical feminism

Do you get your understanding of dialectical feminism from AM radio?

But they are still doing this. The drive of capital is consumption culture. These feminists partake in this. They are simply under the illusion that they're breaking from the system. The real way to liberate women is through struggle against material conditions.

And yet fail to focus on that.

These things are unproductive. There is nothing wrong with fighting for more rights, but focusing on shit like this simply scatters the beam and puts people under the illusion that they are doing something.

But nobody believes in Marxism feminsim, it's always radical liberalism.

Then fuck that shit where have you been hanging out?

What is the PKK

This

Which is why when someone calls themselves a feminist, I already know they most likely are not about class struggle and are simply IDPOL garbage eaters. If you call yourself a socialist, I already know you believe in equality. You do not need to virtue signal.

A reactionary nationalist movement that will be sent to gulag.

Indeed, however I think most feminists are bound to be self-congratulatory for merely being 'smart and progressive' or whatever it is. Even most TERFs I know are to some extent, congratulatory towards female CEOs, music artists, and so on.

I can tell when somebody is an active leftypol poster

You're a spineless useless sack of shit

idk i just don't think it's as contentious as you (and they) think it is. In my experience with talking to them the difference in their opinions and yours are largely semantics

For example, the original black panthers were definitely comrades, not useless "idpol" liberals just because they used minority centered rhetoric

I can tell when someone is going to be sent to gulag. Don't worry, you're my favorite shitposter, you will get half the whippings and a daki of comrade sanders dressed as a lolita.

The sex industry usually abuses the women it hires, it's the same kind of abuse a worker faces under a factory manager. You guys are idiots if you think a few porn stars paying lip service(if they even mean that shit) means all women in Porn are happy. The woman in this video was obviously pointing out some shit wrong with the sex industry.

inb4 go back to Tumblr and reddit.

Fuck you. Being anti idpol does not mean being a fucking brocialist or alt left, we are fucking socialists, not radical liberals.

And you're mad.

Basically nobody since capitalism isn't ending in our lifetime?

To gulag.

Let's face it, at this point if you hear someone say "I'm a feminist" you're going to be talking to a radical liberal. The odds of them being a Marxist feminist are so fucking tiny it seems like we should stop making the distinction: It has been well and truly co-opted. There's no point getting caught up in the semantics of this time and time again.

Acceptable, but not on the internet (or at least English speaking) and not people we have regular interactions with.

You almost made two acceptable posts in a row, but at least you set a new record.

That'd make more than every user here.

Gulags can co-exist with capitalism until socialism comes. Just ask Stalin.

fascinating

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Explain.

Reminder not to respond to tripfag anfem as she derails every thread to be about herself.

You're being obnoxious

i'm an anarcho-syndicalist and i have an undercut

Black panthers were always a black nationalist organization, as far as I know.

I don't at all disagree that we should fight for workers' rights in the sex industry, as we should fight for them in all industries. I don't watch 3DPD shit because I have taste, so live-action pornography doesn't really effect me, but as a socialist I can do nothing else.

It's where people start wanting to team up with fundies and sex-negative feminists to get porn outlawed where I take issue.

"As far as I know" is correct

I will endure 1000 years of capitalism, just to send you to gulag and consider it a good deal.

You don't have her filtered?

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Care to post evidence to the contrary? Because nothing I've read points to them being internationalists. They were idpol as fuck, just like turd worldists.

not actually true, the actual revolutionary members got systematically persecuted/hunted and the remaining factions morphed into one ultra-nationalist separatist movement and one milquetoast "socialist" movement that manages to get nothing done ever

good rule of thumb is if the feds decide they need to get involved, it's the real deal

It's implying "black nationalism" and collectivism weren't themselves connected.

It was enough to send the federal government into communist panic and try to kill most important figures, indeed many visited the Soviet Union on good terms, that's good enough for me.

Not everyone is a liberal, you're just trigger happy to fling the term liberal onto basically every other thing that annoys you

No because retards keep responding to her and I need to know when things are getting deleted or people are being stupid to preserve my sanity.

The government was just scared of some uppity negroes hanging out with the socialists, and the USSR wasn't the greatest thing ever. Black nationalism is not now, nor will it ever be socialist in nature because it is nationalism. This only serves to divide the working class and you are just a larping fag that won't do shit after you graduate, just like every other college socialist.

And? What if the working class doesn't exactly like your brand of socialism?

What then?

Throw a fit of hysterics at them about how wrong they are?

Great plan Einstein, keep talking down to them it really works with your whole "stop talking down the working class" angle so many of you are addicted to but don't actually enforce.

Reactionary elements need to be purged from society. Some of the workers won't like any kind of socialism. This unfortunately is the reality of things.

Seeing as how I'm actually part of the working class and you most definitely aren't, I think I know better how to approach colleagues than you. Of course, some cannot be convinced, but we must do away with these people when the time comes.

This wasn't always the case. The Young Patriots Organization was a southern socialist organization that reclaimed the confederate flag and used it as their sign. They regularly worked with the black panthers for the short time they were around. Here's a picture of them

Because anarchist dudes can't get pussy any other way.

2bh unless its reading or just a picture, it just feels pathetic now

The BPP literally called for socialist revolution across all of America not just for blacks and openly supported the working class regardless of race it's the reason they had the white panthers and worked with the young patriots

Try again.

Wearing a kafiyah does not a lifestylist make.

Why the hate? She isn't exactly making this shit up.

WTF is a workshop?