Why are Elves in every fantasy setting usually pretentious assholes who think they're the master race?

They are the status quo race. Personification of nature that the humans wants to bend to his will.
So they don't like it and need to me magma'd.

U w0t m8.

but they are. thats the point. why are so many people endlessly asshurt about it?

Elves came into existence well before "men" in TES. They are the direct descendants of the Old Ehlnofey

Because that's the kind of people who like to play elves.

Fpbp

Because they're nearly immortal creatures deeply in touch with nature and little to do but think about life. So naturally they look, sound, act, and feel superior to lower races without their same lifestyle or abilities.

I want an elf boy to love.

Dwarf race war soon, brother.

Ill never understand how the anti elf brigade always uses crusade based imagery to state their opinions on how shit elves are. When elves are suppose to represent Angles. Fucking weird man.

Funny that you mention that considering its false, Elves are based off Russian's pre-communism, wast land under constant attacks by evil forces, Hobbits on the other hand are based on Anglos

Did you know that: Elves are the fantasy niggers

I think he meant Angels since he was talking about the crusades, and I agree anglos are like hobbits with a bit of dwarf Jewishness mixed in.

Orcs/Trolls are the fantasy niggers.

Because they basically are the master race aside from their lack of ambition and low birthrate.
You can thank Tolkien for their prevalence.

Elves are pretty much always the first race created by the gods in fantasy settings. That in no way makes TES elves unique.

Orcs are best shown as nomadic warriors like in TES.

youze a git

Cockney orcs are second best.

How are nomadic people not niggers? Roaming around killing and raping other races that are creating civilization instead.

Gypsies are scum but they're not niggers. They only squat for so long before leaving. Niggers meanwhile will stay for generations in an area. Destroying it more and more while condemning the country they're in over the actions of themselves.

oi, datz how WAAAAGHS is started

Why do people love Warcraft orcs?

Because they don't know what an Ork is.

becuase they thought by going horde in world of warcraft they would be getting away from normalfags and girls who want to play something sexier. to an extent it was successful but its probably long since over.

That was probably most people's first exposure to orcs besides LOTR.

Reminder that "generic elves" are not Tolkien based in any way shape or form but simply copying D&D's shitty attempts to copy Tolkien's elves. They are almost always simply a copy of a copy of Tolkien's elves.
Noldor > Teleri

And they got the blood elf players.. unlucky.

as someone who is veteran of WC3 and WoW i can tell you that Warcraft orcs are loved because they are unique. If you look at all other version of orcs they are portrayed as either beasts or semi-beasts.

In Warcraft they can speak and act similar to humans and actually have more brain activity than SMASH ARGGH!

Except they literally act like niggers. They claim they are good boys, then they start a genocide campaign, and then they claim they didn't do nothing.

Your "muh noble savages" orcs are fucking shit.

that was the funniest shit. ive never seen people get so riled up over something pretty. well that was back then these days its pretty commonplace!
it wasnt much to do with luck. it wasnt hard to see coming for people who had played warcraft 3 and its expansion. though i guess it could have turned out either way since they were still high elves in the alliance. though the "happening" was clearly with kaelthas and his entourage.

Why did you post like the one example of elves that don't fit the stereotype? The Wild Walkers quest line is all about the leader realizing his people are backwards retards who need to improve and expand.

As they did in LotR lore. You're making no point here.

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Because they USUALLY are biologically superior.
- long-lived
- blonde
- beautiful (when is the last time you've seen a fat elf?)
- gifted in magic
- wise

It's natural to think you are better when you ARE objectively better.
But depends on the writing and setting.

There are setting in which the elves act like retards, which seriously puts their wisdom to question. There's also setting where they aren't that great. Even setting in which they don't give two shits about nature.

Probably because they aren't retards like you.
Invent a completely new race if you want something different, instead of changing something that already exist.

noble savages bullshit came in later expansions after Metzen got appointed as Lore Director and he had a nigger fetish

tbh everything lore-wise after TBC should be discarded even it had some decent orc storylines for some characters.

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Sure thing, knife ear.

pretty sure they fired him after he fucked up the Warcraft movie (it was a disaster and the money they got from it was far less than the money they spent on making + marketing) and the MoP+WoD+Legion expansions, ofc firing him directly would be bad publicity so they just said he was "retiring" (who the fuck retires at 40) and gave him some shitty statue where he holds some monkeys hand.

Tolkien was very specific in his writings about elves. They are supposed to be idealized men.

So many people hate purity and greatness, because they realize their own inferiority.

Isn't there some disorder all elves would have with memory problems due to living to living so long? If so, maybe they just forget any fuck ups they ever make.

But elf grils are already sluts, we've gone over this.

I was on the "lotr fucking sucks" bandwagon for awhile, but after rereading the whole thing plus the hobbit in the winter. I learned to shut the fuck up.

Did you read Silmarillion?
It's the best read on Tolkien elves

Where is the elf, orc and dwarf porn?!

Oh god, I just looked it up. What the fuck is this.

I can understand liking the Hobbit. It's a genuinely enjoyable story but the Lord of the Rings is a genuinely awful read. Reading it was such a footslog and I got though that shitheap Eragon and the entire Song of Ice and Fire.
Lord of the Rings reads like a history book that some fuckstick decided should be fun and failed horribly.

I'm not going to say the setting sucks but I think a lot of that comes from every fantasy writer ever copying Tolkien and the more traditional elves, dwarves, and goblins being cast aside in favour of the Tolkien versions.

Maybe we've just been so over exposed to tolkien derived works that the original tolkien seems bland in comparison.

The history of Arda. How the world came to be, the legends, the age of gods, the great war and their departure.
Just a heads-up, the thing is mostly written as a historical book, going into insane details, down to detailed lineages.
Prepare to read names. TONS of names.

Good thing is that most aren't important, so you won't have to remember them.

LORE

Holy shit, how does a dragon that big even wonder in a mortal realm?

It's not mortal realm technically. It's the first age if I'm remembering right.

It was asking for it

Same way a spider this big happens. The War of Wrath makes the War of the Ring look like a slap fight.

And that shit has dragons? Dragons aren't cool anymore, as in they are ruined. When I use to play old ADnD, Dragons were a big fucking deal, they could talk, they were smarter then or as a God. Fucking sucks in the video game world for dragons. Aint no coming back from those off breeds they call dragons in Skyrim, fucking garbage.

I thought the spiders were good at some point?

Tolkien has giant spiders and intelligent dragons, also the spiders speak fluent westron, which is just the setting's version of english.

I want to make elves a magical race that is enslaved by an incredibly anal and petty god that will strike them down for the smallest of crimes.

Not like
But

So they appear on the outside proud, meticulous, pious and stoic people but are really just terrified of the consequences of making their god look bad and getting eternal punishment in whatever elves would imagine hell to be like.

Ungoliant and her brood are not so much good or bad as they are a force of destruction.
Where other settings have squids seeking to plunge the world into the darkness of oblivion, Tolkein's has spiders.

That's a pretty good idea for a setting user.

Shareholders kicked him for the massive two expansion backlash of him forcing Thrall as the god of everything awesome, and people bailing hard from the game.

He was on defensive mode during his last year in 2016, he had to be sat down to voice Varian and Thrall for the last time, and of course he was angry that the shareholders wanted his self insert out of the game, and then came out the Sylvanas manface + full bodycovering armor and waifufags exploded bringing down the player number to less than 10% of the peak population, but even after all and defending his daughter's feminist apologetics, he acted like a cunt on the official forums then nuked a thread and sent a clean up squad full damage control mode and interns saying all kinds of obviously phoned excuses. Chris Metzen has always been a faggot with nigger lust for his self insert. Let me see if I can find any pic of his meltdown.

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Just hearing this gives me some pleasure, it's like being falsely accused of rape and winning in the end, some sort of Justice is nice.

This shit for real? No wonder Thrall was so fucking Mary Sue. That explains a lot.

Holy fuck you nigger.
In TES that shit doesn't matter, everyone is the splitting of two gods.
Elves are lesser spirits that existed before Nirn, humans and others were created from the gods who gave themselves up to create Nirn.

It's why the Aldmeri dominion is dumb as shit. Yeah they can go back to being spirits if they destroy the pillars, but the other races aren't going to away.
Conflict existed anyway way before Nirn when its creation as being discussed and the Deadra told the Earth fucker, fuck you nigga this will kill us.
And I believe several tried to stop him or informed the others that the Earth Fucker wasn't telling them the whole thing.

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Elf daddy issues.

You dont have to convince me about him being a retarded cunt, i remember reading archives posts from former Blizzard employees and all of them had had negative comments about him despite working in different positions, he was a junkie with huge ego who wanted to meddle in everyone's business

Metzen voiced alot of characters, hell in Ulduar trailer he had a fucking monologue because Thrall and Varian were talking to each other for almost a full minute, not even the biggest egotists would be that cancerous such as Metzen itself.

Was Melkor the first robot?

Varian was killed a year ago by now, and Thrall was written as suicidal and wanting off the spotlight, every other character he voiced has already been retired, he had to be sat down and nearly flayed to tone down Thrall into a mere mortal, and even if he said that hes happy about retiring, I know he is bullshitting, but his feminazi daughter sat down no more than four years ago, played dragon soul raid and started ripping him a new one ober skimpy clothing on the females, and his downward spiral of skub and madness began.

HEY GUYS

please give a visit to
>>>/arda/
It's Holla Forums's tolkien board, if you like to shitpost about orcs and elves or want to get more into the lore.

If I remember correctly Melkor was a prodigy, and something or other happened.
I don't really like their Top god, the man sounds like a prick.
He nearly killed the dwarves merely for being created by a son who just wanted to impress daddy.
Yeah he didn't kill them at the end, but still, it was also ripped straight from the bible.

Thread theme.

dont forget that he put his daughter in the game as "strong independent gnome woman who is brilliant in every field she pursues"

Because they're almost always immortal, long-lived, culturally 'advance', magically gifted, pretty races with a massive affinity for nature.
What sort of attitude and behavior does that make you think of?

I mean with the money Blizzard makes probably everyone there but the interns will be able to retire at 40, but yeah he probably wouldn't have if not for pressure from above.

Melkor was the greatest Valar and from the looks of it he was simply punished because he wanted to be creative as Eru, unlike Sauron who was destroyed despite being the most powerful Maia Melkor couldnt be destroyed and could only be chained/imprisoned by combined forces of other Valar+Maia+elves, after their last battle they had to trap him in the Void for all eternity.

As much as I know about wow, this is something I didnt heard about, please help me know this shit. What gnome, the hunter apprentice addie? Or Millhouse Manastorm's wife? What did he put in this time as a last gift of shit in a platter

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Yo. So how good are the book? Was thinking of picking up the audio book versions, since my vision isn't to good anymore.

Is that the guy I been told about that is pretty much a living, walking god in Tolkinverse? Friend was telling about this guy that could solve all the problems, but he just lives in the woods with his elf wife.

the point i was trying to make is Metzen's ego was so big its unbelievable that he would retire at 40, he is like one of those pop singers who are constantly trying to get media attention like Sher or Maddona because their egos are bigger than their talents.

Millhouse Manastorm's wife, also he had a plan for Illidan to become the same Kerrigan was in SC2, become some holy divinity that would destroy the Legion and then move from one planet to another to seed life, luckily Blizzard changed the Argus/Burning Legion storyline of Legion after firing him.

You've ever met a vegan?

The reading of The Silmarillion by Martin Shaw is god-tier quality.

Melkor was the one that corrupted Sauron, stole the silmarils, disrupted the music, destroyed the two trees, created the orcs, created the dragons, took over Middle-Earth, and tried to take over Beleriand.

That second plan for Illidan was svrapped, he became now the Bolvar of Sargeras, theres must always be a Legion Master. Arator, son of Turalyon and Alleria is now Kerrigan two, the child of light and shadow. They are deploying patch 7.3 soon, with it the return of wc2 alleria and turalyon but now alleria isnt just a prime archer but a void lord walking gps who can detect more evil faster than all the paladins and also.tame eldritch abominations like its nothing, because they need a gurl powerful character instead of letting Arator be the hero of the.prophecy as they just wrote literally ten weeks ago in 7.2.5

also invented Balrogs by corrupting Maiar.

Who's Morgoth then?
Or did Melkor change his name to Morgoth?

Melkor is the original name of Morgoth. When he stole the silmarils, Feanor gave him the name Morgoth which means black enemy of the world.

I remember this, an user quoted some lines from the end of a legion book about how Illidan is going to become Nelf Jesus.

Anyhow, is there even a way to bubblegum and ducktape fix WoW lore after all this, the most fun from the expansion was the pre-event where everyone rode across the old continents killing bosses for pretty decent gear.

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feels bad :(

Argonians are the oldest race, by virtue of being from the dream before or some shit.

oh yeah i forgot that Alleria and Turaylion were fighting Legion for 1000 years over the last 20 years somehow because retcons

Metzen raped lore too many times and in very gruesome way, nothing is sacred to him and he will corrupt/reverse corrupt just about anything

those kinda-sorta came back in a content patch

They only joined the Horde to raise its playerbase.

The Orcs were already established as capable of civilization before they became Dindus.

It was there since Of Blood and Honor (the novel Tirion Foldring came from). The Orcs became Dindus who got manipulated by demons into invading Azeroth. WC3 had Metzen's pet Thrall be the one of the only ones to listen to ranting hobo Medivh (the other being Grassburner Jaina) and it got the Orcs some Redskin Cow sidekicks.

Yes, even know there could be a way to shoehorn everything and make sense out of it.

Help me out here, how can we fix this shit, make Lor'themar King finally to fix blood elves?

Kill ALL the Blood Elves.

tbh Blood Elves joining Horde had more sense than them joining Stormwind Alliance, Sylvanas is their main connection to Quel'Thalas in Horde and they have nobody in Stormwind Alliance.

As much as I wished to kill those fags because muh Garithos, thats something undoable right now because waofufags are literally the last customers still buying.

I will also never not be upset at the fucking blue space goats being blue and goatish instead of how they were in fucking WC3, which was not blue and goatish.

Right now blizzard has two choices, adding new races or adding subraces, and theres already a toy that lets you be a broken even if its for a few minutes so Im still hopeful to ser playable krokul one day, they are the thing I want to see playable before returning to that game

Add the energy mummies.

Elves are vastly superior to humans as sex slaves

We need to go way back to fix WC Lore. I'm talking TBC at the latest.

I support the RPG Lore of the Blood Elves that had them as marauding fel snorters hanging out with Illidan. TBC (among other things) dropped the ball by making it so that only Kael'thas and his posse they were snorting demon crack right before getting them another Sunwell.

No it didn't. The Blood Elves had their kingdom steamrolled by an undead army and invades by Orcs.

Sylvanas is a rotting abomination who in canon has shown no actual qualms with strongarming the Blood Elves for troops. The Blood Elf policy towards all walking corpses not being to burn them on sight is silly.

Sure they did. They had the Night Elves. TFT even had Kael'thas meet Tyrande and Malufurion, help them out, and part with them on good terms.

Oddly enough they are getting a stealth update next patch, and seeing that werr going again to space might give thema chance next xpac. But would they be neutral or who gets them

by Scourge and Old Horde

Still better option than shitty Stormwind Alliance who even rejected Scarlet Crusade humans

High Elves hated night elves for a reason, they hated them so much they started worshipping the Sun instead of moon.

The challenge I pose is fixing wow with everything going on up to today. Lets say were the new team and we have to save wow in this instant. Also, after Theramore and Varian dead, Silvermoon has no more alliance channels open. Lor'themar was good friends with Varian, but now that train has left station.

And guess who was in the Scourge? A lot of Forsaken.

I'd point out the Blood Elves should have no reliable method of telling Good!Undead from Bad!Undead but that would go for the Horde also and speak of how the Forsaken were a mistake so meh.

Sure.

They attacked the living and were led by a Dreadlord.

Still didn't invade their forests or massacre them.

He was a incoherently written character who became too important. The Alliance doesn't need a Blue Warchief.

Varian is dead, now we got a empty chair and a faggoty priest girly man on it. I absofuckinglutely live how Anduin spies on the city and hears the women of the city calling him a submissive idealist, and the kids calling him a lame orc kisser.

I do agree though

How about stop focusing on such grim-dark end of the world themes first off.
Legion and WoD which are one in the same are with this, WoD more at the end and Legion throughout. It makes progressing feel like a damn chore.

Strip any semblance of rank in military like "Commander" and such and return us to just regular adventurers than some worthless title, we're collecting Boar asses regardless of the character rank.

I don't know, stop putting flying behind arbitrary rep locks and just let people fucking fly for 20k, remove raid finder so it forces people to talk to join groups instead of the weird isolationist culture we have right now, and other shit even redditors can pick up on.

If they do subraces, it seems some races will get a bit shafted. All the different permutations of tauren are just regular tauren with different horns and/or flatter faces. I mean really, show me the actual difference between a taunka and a yaungol. I'll wait.

Meanwhile, you've got iron dwarves and mechagnomes. And probably vrykul for a human subrace.

The milk has different flavours.

Like those birds Darwin once studied, Taunka and Yaungol adapted to different weathers, have different cultures from the Tauren, while the Taunka do share the noble savage bullshit, Yaungols are chaotic evil, while Taunkas are lawful neutral, if not entirely neutral. Yaungol developed oil fracking, while Taunkas are full algonquian tech.

They have different cultures, Taunka are Icy Tauren so they'd have a good buff against frost magic and perhaps another buff.

Yaungol are chinky tauren, genetically superior over other Tauren due to Mogu eugenics, but instead they'd get a buff that raised strength and defense at the cost of lowered stamina as a racial.

man it sounds like you were one of those guys who were butthurt Blood Elves were added to Horde instead of Alliance rather than them not joining any faction at all

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Legion is still bad even without Metzen:

Varian really wasn't any better than Garrosh. All he did was rage like a faggot, and made a shitty attempt to rally the Alliance in MoP.

You know after this expansion we're probably going to get sjw-pandering out the ass with Sylvanas (Making her an innocent, dindu-feminist was the most retarded thing Metzen and Blizzard did). I wish we could kill the bitch in a raid or some quest because there's no fucking reason give an evil, psychotic bitch any leadership.

Can I as a non-magical human fuck the Tauren females and impregnate them 'cos magic

I like to just believe that the entire lore ended with killing Arthas because I quit the damn game a week before the whole "dere must always be lich king :DDD" shit happened.

What setting has the best elves and why is it warhammer 40k?

My ass has the best elves.

He brooded at best and then finally when he actually started doing shit, he swiftly got his shit fel'd in. The purpose he served at the end of MoP was status quo maintenance so that blizzard could justify avoiding the logical conclusion of SoO at all costs.

Is that why they call you the fairy?

Nah, that's Tom Bombadil (Iarwain Ben-Adar, oldest and fatherless). He's not in most adaption despite being in both the Hobbit and the Lord of the Ring, his wife is clearly not an elf she's probably a Maiar (primordial spirits) or something else. Nobody is sure what Tom Bombadil is. Just like when even Gandalf (Maiar himself) is tempted by the ring, Bombadil doesn't give two fucks, he takes it from Frodo, plays with it, then give it back to him. Later on Gandalf and Elrond argue that they could give him the ring for safekeeping, but it's likely he's gonna lose it since he won't attach any importance to it.
Tolkien explicitly told he didn't want to explain who Bombadil was, the most elegant fan explanation is that hims and his wife are a representation "father time and mother nature".

Varian was a bleh character as soon as he was confirmed to be an "Anti-Thrall." He was then inconsistently written (ranging from a "raw raw kill Orcs" strawman to some wise king trying to keep the peace but gets foiled by the likes of Jaina) and shilled as the Supreme Ruler of the Alliance.

When will dwarves come to terms with their latent homosexuality?

Eldar are a dying breed of selfish ass-holes, and Dark Eldar are a dying breed of selfish, perverted ass-holes who don't give two shits. Warhammer Fantasy elves aren't too bad because because all of them know they're ass-holes.

MoP still makes me bitter inside.

Naw. That's why they call me your Father.

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Sadly the whole "losing a war to fucking dwarves" aspect of fantasy welves kind of ruins them.

Losing to a dwarf at anything is like losing to to the fat kid at running.

Implying you wouldn't settle with exodites and raise your own free range elves

Do you feel in charge?

the loli broke later than her mother.

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It all makes sense.

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Mind the setting.

I did?
Let's go into theory an elf can only produce one child or another, no halfs. If such occurs it is not normal, a human can live 200 years at least 'cos my science fiction figures we do. So a humanmixes with an elf and in one hundred years of his life span, the span that he's sane they have 20-60 kids. Wot would you do to feed them all?

The song of creation part was beautiful.

For those that don't get it.
The first new music is elves
The second new music is humans

sup /tg/.

It just makes sense that a long-lived race, no matter how skilled or superior they are from centuries of training, would become snooty armchair critics rather than men of action. They built their civilization ages ago and don't want for anything anymore, are barely capable of reacting even to massive existential threats. There's a flipside to this, however.

Basically, a slim fraction of the population of elves in any setting are actually worth something. These are the ones that grow tired of elven culture and immortality and become badass daredevil warriors and famous pirates that no longer give a fuck whether they live or die. They're just about the best dudes you could have on your side, if you can afford them.

Soylent elf of course. And no, you really didn't.

You are a retard. Elves and humans used to work together, and now, because of a single general the races are basically at war, and the elves ally with undead and orc (that are both their mortal enemies).
The very notion that the elves had no contact in the alliance, despite fighting the horde and interacting for years is insane.

Well shit. Not like WH40K exists or elves.

Varian was basicly a white orc, he acted more like orc than human while Thrall was basicly a green human (both were shitty characters with some Mary Sue backstory)

Prioritizing the survival of your race is selfish?

What is real?

>No impregnation
what is this gay shit?

elves are a gateway to nigger loving.

It's justice.

It wouldn't be so bad if the faction system didn't make everybody in the other factions your bitter enemy regardless of historical ties.

If you're going to force the Blood Elves into the Horde then acknowledge they, at most, only have recent issues with Humans and maybe Dwarves by WoW's start. Other members can be neutral or friendly.

fuck off.

Wot's that doujin?

Sir Pelinal Whitestrake, Garithos, the entire church of Zarus…

A brown elf is fine too

Your mother is a gateway to nigger loving.

yes.

They usually are decadent, their adoration for any good God gone, most enter debauchery or fornication if not the contrary and basically spread retardation in every setting, elves are disgusting things that won't ever know the glory of being a human, of being illuminated by the Light, of striving forward, elves are all dead inside husks of magic or depravation, fuck elves entirely, they are as good as witches and blasphemers.

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Sounds reasonable.

most school shooters are jewish

wat?

no you are the fucking retard for thinking Stormwind Alliance is somehow the same as Lordaeron Alliance

Sure thing buddy

No, you stupid fuck. Tolkien's elves are a combination of the the Brahmin caste and the traditional Nordic elf lore. Elves = Brahmin, True Men (Numenoreans) = Kshatriya, Dwarves = Vaisya, Hobbits = Sudra. However, Tolkien's Christian moral inversion means that hope lies in the most humble of vocations/castes/peoples/

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Harris_and_Dylan_Klebold

btw, most schizophrenics and serial killers are jews too

haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-1.560128
Nov 26, 2013 … Variations of the DNST3 gene make Ashkenazi Jews 40 percent more likely to develop schizophrenia and similar diseases.

Because Tolkien. As great as his works were, everyone else just didn't bother trying anything new. Elves were the super Aryans in Tolkien's works; beautiful, long life, at one with nature and spirituality, capable warriors, always willing to help their men brothers despite mans frailty, ego, greed etc.

Because they're an allegory for white people and most fantasy authors are jews with an axe to grind.

Not really, actually. Most elves were black haired beauties for instance. And in their long life they lost many aspects of things.

you know nothing.

Great source retard

Everyone blaming tolkien is miguided. Blame dungeons and dragons.

Your replies in this thread are shit tier.
You really seem like a nigger trying not to seem like a nigger. Are you a nigger? Do you desperately want elves to be niggers?

Who said it was a bad thing?
Tolkiens elves are fine.

He's actually sort of correct, given that Alfar in the mythological context are the hallowed dead of the old germanics/scandinavians. In later folklore and fantasy, they tend to accumulate pre-Christian concepts, but Tolkien, as was his wont, inverts this and has them retain pre-fallen status, thus making redemption through Christ unnecessary (which is a historical event that will occur in the LOTR history).

>super Aryans
More correct than you realize, given that the Lord of the Rings is the Christian version of the Mahabharata.

Because dnd wanted to make them more (((realistic))) and everyone copies dnd. Honestly I don't know why modern fantasy is called "tolkien-esk" it should be called "dnd-esk"

Nope. I'm white, wanna fuck an elf though.

Something like that.

That actually was a religious/initiatory rite of the old nords. The neophyte would go into a burial mound or sacred grotto and find a hag, a woman and a girl (Vala [witches] representing the Norns and shades [Alves] of the dead) and be "tempted" by each. After rebuffing them with formal song, the neophyte gets to fuck the girl.

You're either a prideful idiot or (((chosen)))
inb4 I was only pretending to be an idiot

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Well in that case I'd rather fuck myself.

Which one was the elf supposed to be?

the one you've never read about 'cos you're a fag.

This.
Elves have only been that way since tolkien.
Before that, they were more like gnomes and fairies - very small, stumpy, mischevious creatures that occasionally did helpful tasks during the night.

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Quit being a faggot. "modern fantasy" elves are barely like Tolkien's elves.
Tolkien's elves may not have even had pointy ears.

All three of them. They're in the burial mound or place of the sacred tree because the souls of the dead (ElveS) are fertilized by/fertilize the earth. The Nords had the notion that reincarnation was bound by blood, so to fuck a dead woman (who is alive) in the family tomb would recirculate the "blood" of "life."

Wrong. That's the post-renaissance conception, where natural was desacralized more or less completely to the laity. Before then, Elves had the same structure as Nymphs and shades, nature spirits. If you read the fairy stories of the middle ages, for instance, Elves are the dwellers of and kings of purgatory, being immortal, noble, but not baptised.

The movie Labyrinth actually shows what a medieval fairy story looks like very, very well. They are largely christianized reinterpretations of the most popular pre-christian (largely agricultural) stories and ceremonies. So, by structure of the moralizing/anagogy, fairy land, which is purgatory, which is of course the material world, becomes the same Field of Action of the Gitas.

Get actual sources bud

You are a whole new level of stupid.

Doesn't matter. Why would human suddenly turn against the elves? For what reason? Especially when they have a common enemy they fought united.

Filthy jew detected. Elves are aryan as fuck. Anit-elf is anti-white!

Go look national homicide rates and come back.

Garithos t. Strawman happened. He served no purpose other than forcing the Blood Elves to be hostile towards the Alliance.

Except I'm white. Even have a rare blood type thayt could kill me off compleyely if I needed blood ever.

You prove my point about just how bad the writing is.

A single man convincing humans to hate elves overnight for no reason, and a single elven prince convincing elves to war on humans.

It's better that way, tbh. The game should have ended at that point.

They should have stuck with the plan to have a century lokg timeskip after TFT.

It was bad writing alright. And it shows that even WC3 had iffy writing. What with the Dindu Orcs and Hobo Medivh.

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you got ultra rare plasma thats worth a good bit of money though

wait, I forgot its the opposite

O negative for blood and AB should donate plasma

O negative can donate blood to anyone. I'm that, I can give to anyone, I cannot accept any other blood types though.

all the more reason to suck out 2 liters of blood and shove it in your freezer

I ain't got the tchnology for that.

They aren't. They are smelly hippies that don't achieve to anything. Human > everything else.

Tried for 3 years to find a girl in my city. Met so many women I wouldn't remember some days later but still not a single one from my city. Now that the game is officially dead I don't even know where to find non-whores shopping for cock.

I wonder what kind of blood vampires find the tastiest?
In before white blood

Do you want him to die or what

wew

Blue blood, obviously.

Am I the blue?

Are you of noble decent and maintain yourself to the dignified virtues of gentleman/ladylike behavior and standing?

Say what you will about dragon age but it has an interesting take on elves

Is your skin naturally pale enough so the venous blue is clearly visible?

A dignified nigger is still a nigger.

Giant heads and welsh accents?

That's why 'noble descent' is the first prerequisite, Cletus.

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Wouldn't oxygenated blood taste better?

I take it you're of royal stock?

read some Elric of Melniboné

Fuck no, I'm a goddamn snownigger. My blood's the equivalent of bottom-shelf vodka for any self-respecting vampire. Point is the vast majority of classical literature has vampires preferring actual noble blood from virtuous individuals.

Nigga what Yuga do you think we're in? Blood doesn't tell right now because the primal waters have dissolved everything. Get your ass outta the pool, Utnapishtim.

It tastes like vaguely metallic sticky shit anyway. It's also a pain to remove from white cloth and fingernails unless you like wasting a ton of club soda and salt.

Friendly reminder that there were acknowledged and documented nigger nobles. Shaka, Haile Selassie I and Idi Amin :^) to name a few.

Whatever helps you shit at night, parjeet.

how the fuck are blue bloods noble?
by being inbred morons that live in luxury off of your tax money and their contribution is to give other peoples money to charity and take all the credit?

Shit, I don't make the rules. Maybe it's like how prize dog/cat/cattle breeds are inbred little turds to maintain certain qualities the breeders are looking for.

The draenei would still be pretty pissed at the blood elves at the point they join the horde, and the night elves were still conservative enough to kill elf mages before the cataclysm too

What's the origin of the term? They're noble by the virtue of not having moorish complexion or other nigger-like attributes brought by either work in the sun, exposure to the elements or questionable ancestry.

well the queen in particular pulls in many more millions in tourist revenue than she spends. Also most royals are royals because their grand dads grand dad had a huge army to kill anyone who said otherwise.

This is exactly my problem with Tolkien. I know that he is actually a great writer because I'm reading through Lord of The Rings and it's really well written but I had a problem with getting into it due to the fact that it just felt bland. The funny thing is that once you start reading it, you find out that LoTR actually has a far more interesting atmosphere than any of those knock-offs will ever have, and all the themes are done in a better way than the thousand fantasy novels that failed to reuse them.

The british royal line is actually common, there's a reason no other royal family will marry into it.

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You're an idiot.

Some elves, but I absolutely adore the degenerate elf setting.

Consider suicide.

In Tolkien's world yes, but you do realize that almost every single fantasy universe which copied elves completely ignored that fact?

In Tolkien's writing it has sense because it is based on Christianity but in case of any other fantasy world they just become "Mary Sue the race".

You can't really take away that whole "God" theme away, leave all the rest and think that it'll work the same.

Just gets to show that most fantasy writers aren't really that creative and copy things without even thinking about them.

The elves are like niggers and think they wus kangs and think humans took away their power but the truth is they did it to themselves

Only Games Workshop has ever made them work and not be complete total faggots by usually have them be complete faggots

Also we need more people like Sanderson. Mistborn might be a YA novel but FUCK ME if it isn't more creative than most of the shit that just tries to copy Tolkien.

never had an elf try to rob me

so the country thats the butt of every inbred joke isnt actually inbred enough?

so who are those oh so Noble afghanistanis that are your Ideal noble?

It's important to stress, as you have, how they copy it: they remove any transcendent/aspirational meaning from it.

Dune is probably the best post-Tolkien fantasy novel. Planetary fantasy is still fantasy. Interestingly, it is almost its complete moral inverse: in Tolkien, the world is sacralized through totally intellectually abstracted divinity top down manifesting in the most humble of beings, in Herbert, it is the biomechanical forces, "the thirsting of the blood to flow and mingle" that Paul sees in his prophetic trances that elevate men to godhood (or rather, control over their flowing and mingling, as in the case of the literal god Leto II).

Nigga you are just a ball of jumbled presumptions. I am more Holla Forums than you. You are on a shorter wavelength than I am.

I need to read some more fantasy novels. Dostoyewsky first though

fantasy a shite

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Great choice, the Brothers Karamazov is pretty much the crowning achievement of human culture.

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Dubs confirm
I'm reading through it right now, I'm currently after the scene of Aloysha and Iwan talking in the restaurant.

Dostoyevsky has a great talent of wiring stories where everything could seemingly go right if given some luck but instead everything goes awfully wrong and it devolves into a complex web of people working against their best interests.

Pic related is mfw I keep reading.

boring characters and endless enviroment descriptions don't make good writing, lotr is boring shit. silmarillion on the other hand was pretty good.

if you like boring, crappy writing and cardboard-characters, yes

The scene with Grushenka and Katerina Ivanova is probably the most realistic and elemental depiction of women. Pastoral russian Jerry Springer.

The writing in the first book is somewhat dry, but from Messiah to God Emperor I think Herbert his the the perfect mythic tone. Shame we never saw what the build up in Heretics and Chapter House was going to lead to, although it's fairly obvious that there was going to be a "new revelation" in the form of a new cosmic prince with the fusion of the mentat/prana bindu/honored matres disciplines who could generate a universal no-field by virtue of his sovereignty: a king whose rule grants metaphysical freedom.

Don't get me depressed user.

Wait til you realize that Rakitan is a faggot.

Don't spoil anything user, please.

Do not forget Moshoeshoe, the progenitor of Argentina and the first king of Lesotho.

youre reading too much into herby's crappy writing

Because they are. Suck it up, faggot.

Daydreaming is great, isn't it?

Are you saying whites are the Mary Sues of reality?

You're both wrong. Kobolds are the fantasy niggers.

Difference being that in mot settings elves WERE (or still are) kings

I once spent a month in WoW raping elves.
It was a pretty good time.

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Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. ©

Elric isn't an elf.

elves are best when they're beautiful breeding sows, shy fembois, or horny futas

If only

What's it like to be so wrong

It's true, Oblivionfag.

He's not?

Why are you changing the subject?

Tangentially related but, I seem to recall game saying something like "it's not genocide because elves aren't people" anybody can tell if that's even a thing and not just my imagination and if yes what game

Quote from Drakengard 3 DLC I think, dragon says the girl is commiting manslaughter and she says it's elves so it can't be manslaughter or something.

Thanks, was pretty much the next thing in my backlog actually.

Here's the level its from, the quote is from around the 22 minute mark. I know there's a webm of it out there too but I've never bothered to save it.

Best be dropping some sauce on that, son.

so how do you like your fantasy races?

Because every fantasy shit rips off Tolkien

The murderer is Buddha.

I strangely like this. But the non beast races are too beastly here. And too fat. Why would Kobolds have or need boobs? Why are giants big fat rabbits? Why are trolls gangly wingless bats?

tells me a lot about the artist.

that's roly for ya

you should see the furshit that he draws

Get this tumblr gay shit outta here.

none of what i posted is gay, he does draw a lot of gay shit, but i didn't post any of it

So Elves are basically conservatives?

The Noldor did everything wrong.

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Not like that. I can't say I'd expect good taste from you at this point though

SIlmarillion is Tolkien filtered of all obligations of writing a popular novella for the larger public. It's just him doing what he does best.

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Nope, dnd ripped off Tolkien, and every other fantasy ripped of dnd.
Tolkien elves weren't that pretentious.

All those super niggers.

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Elves are portrayed this way because they are the best and know it, false modesty is for faglords

Acquire better taste.

my tastes are fucked and all over the place, but i'm ok with it

You seem to fit right in at /hyper/ though.
Elves are supposed to be graceful, not beefcakes or boob monsters.

Except it was always implied they were blue and goaty. Archimonde was in WC3 looking red and goaty, but we know he was red because he went demonic. It makes sense that the playable draenei weren't broken like in Outland because they were in contact with the Naaru the whole time, which is what caused the draenei in outland to become broken. Would have been cooler, though.

What if they're somewhere in between?

I WAN 2 FUG RORY

You aren't alone, user.

Elves are for gentle loving

I have a player in one of my tables that is like that.

She'd be the best if Tuka wasn't head-and-shoulders taller than the other girls.

She would be better if less of a sick in the head airhead. And had more characterization than a paper cutout. Even Yao was more interesting.

still recognize that bulge

It's cause of Pelinel Whitestrake from Elder Scrolls, the dude who dressed in all crusader armor, and was a time travelling, slightly insane machine that helped alessia conquer the elven kingdom. The dude hated elves, to an insane degree, he slaughtered thousands of them, including women and children. I think theres a story of him eating their guts in one as well. He's the elder scrolls equivalent of the terminator on steroids and cocaine.

THen there was that time he met khajiit assumed they were elves and started killing them, then wasnt sure and killed some more, then was sure they weren't, killed some more then went about his bussiness.

Oh, I know, she's written very poorly, but there's only one other girl I know with a body type like that. It seems like every girl who's 6'0" or taller is drawn to be some kind of bodybuilder or a titty monster. I just want more that are simply taller.

Good show

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Truly, a great hero of his time.

You mean angels? And no they are essentially the ethnocentric godless Jew which is funny since the Dwarf was originally supposed to be that with how they claim everything belongs to them and cry victimhood even while ruining everything for everyone- while also claiming to be the superior race.

Elves are a subversive and hateful entity that stole runic magic from dwarves. They lives in trees like pale branch monkies and the dark elves are hated universally by everyone even other elves because they are super branch monkey tribes. The dagger-eared creatures whinge and moan about oppression yet if another person was suffering near them they'd sooner choose their own and say nothing than help out. They run the most expensive merchant shops, live in the most luxurious neighborhoods and when they DON'T they cry victimization and oppression until they do.

You think such a people could have possibly built the heavily intricate constructions of ancient civilizations they claim are theirs? Of course not. Yet somehow they are always more talented, magical, powerful and live longer.

Elves are also notorious whores and their men are about as sexually moral as cuckold porn. They breed with anything and become willing submissive at the slightest hint of dominance like how the Hollywoodites have a severe fetish for Nazis. Elves are degenerate and deserve to be exterminated.
Orcs, too, but that's a given. You don't start out as a monster race and suddenly become a noble savage race. Elves are worse, though, since at least orcs just savage people instead of savaging people and crying victimhood.

Who's that good christian?

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The hero we need, the only manlet deserving of respect.
I wish it was a real manga, but sadly it isn't.

How can you steal magic? Plagiarize possibly, but steal?
Longer lifespan claims are easy to verify, you don't need a conspiracy theory to disprove that.
How keeping to themselves mean ruining everything for others?
Getting kidnapped and turned into slaves doesn't count as a valid reason for crying oppression?
…selling their craftworks that nobody else is able to duplicate. Best quality demands best prices. There is no coercion involved.
If humans breed with anything (most monster races like centaurs or harpies originate from humans, after all), doesn't that mean they deserve to be exterminated even before the elves?

Before Alessia started her rebellion in 1E 242, Pelinal already fought against the Ayleids in the forests of ancient Cyrod. When he heard of her defiance against the Slave-masters, he came to her camp holding a mace and a sword, both encrusted with smashed Elven intestines, feathers and pearls; which were the markings of the Ayleids, and joined her cause for freedom. As such Pelinal became champion of Alessia alongside his cousin Morihaus
Truly a fucking beast in the good way.

Pelinal called out Haromir of Copper and Tea into a duel at the Tor, and ate his neck-veins while screaming praise to Reman, a name that no one knew yet.

And finally, claims of godlessness are pure bullshit. As if there were never elven priests.or shrines.

By taking over ancient ruins and entire settlements via "got dibs" and "we wuz" claims, that's how.
Not my point. My point is they breed like rabbits and endure like roaches.
They don't. They move into an area, make wild claims, speak some nonsense about oppression and/or make terrorist acts against you while claiming you are their oppressors until you move out of the area and they take it over for themselves. Or else they cry victimhood until they are given some land or a neighborhood, at which point it then becomes an insular and exclusive neighborhood until they cry some more. Repeat cycle.
They never got kidnapped and turned into slaves. They lost after being a bunch of pansies in a war - which you'd think the uber-species would actually win if they were so great and mighty and superior. They lost and dealt with the consequences. You think they treated humans any different? They were always against humans; losing the wars and becoming slaves was just a good excuse. Besides, they mate with anything on two legs. Their women are sluts who want it and their men are cuckolds. The only elves with any respect are those with mixed human blood.
I want you to look a Dwarf in the eye and tell him that the elves' fragile garbage is any better. Dwarves make things good and useful, generative, but meanwhile the elves just make trinkets. Any smithing an elf does worth a spit is taken from Dwarves and humans.
You are a sick man full of propaganda. Who gave human women to monsters in the first place? Elves. Then when it's done to them they cry about it.

dedicated to racial ancestry worship, not actual deities. They are the most putrid race to ever walk the plains.

Explain me user in simple words, what is Shinto?
Empty claim, but even assuming it to be true, knowledge can't be stolen.
Elves don't suffer from overpopulation, rather the opposite.
Stopped reading there. Disseminating propaganda would get you nowhere. If you weren't blinded by your inferiority complex, you would notice 'elven flight' happening anywhere other races encroach on them.
What use are human slaves, supposedly?
Women? So lamias or harpies don't need men to procreate?
If it comes to enchantments, dwarves are nothing but bunglers. And alchemy is a poor dwarf substitute for proper magic.

Man, if Bethesda weren't so shit at their jobs, there'd already be a game based entirely around him. The dude was outright badass.

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Oh noes. They cry. How can pone ever defend against that?
As opposed to just conquering and killing?

Like Germans and Hitler, right?
Like the war the west is loosing right now?

So in other words, just like humans?

also, what setting you talking about?

Elfus are for cute and tender love.

Any sufficiently advanced magic is indistinguishable from doing absolutely nothing, though.

This guy gets it

Hey there leftypol.

They are for gentle, consensual maledom.

I wish you luck. You'll need it.

that concept art for a fantasy game where you play as a human keeping nonhumans out of your country as part of the border patrol?