Has there ever been such a divide between the reception of the ((critics)) and gaymurs?

Has there ever been such a divide between the reception of the ((critics)) and gaymurs?

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what ever happened to their episodic releases?

will you stop making shit threads already and fuck off?

The released 2 episodes (despite promising 3 with the goyim pass) and they were both terrible

Dwarf Fortress. Critics say it's a masterpiece, actual gamers say it's far too fucking complicated to play.

Maybe you're just bad, user.

I actually liked Bioshit Infinite purely because of the setting. It's rare games take place in the late 1890's-early 1910's period since the depression era or the earlier industrial revolution tend to overshadow it.

Please stop posting here forever. We don’t want you on this site. Go back to tumblr.

It’s PROBABLY a masterpiece of world design. The UI, however, is 100% unusable. It’s not 1981 anymore; mouse controls are so far beneath an obvious demand that it shouldn’t even need to be said.

user pls go and stay go

I don't remember there being a massive shit flinging contest between the critics and average joe for Infinite, at least not on the level of pic related. Now THAT was a divide.

The only good thing about bioshock are their locations. What do you even call the Bioshock infinite setting? Americana porn?

Did anyone really expect a 'ARPG' to have routes?

obniggitory

youtube.com/watch?v=VdNhwb7iuI4

Well it happens to be the only thing it was good for.

Untertale

Sauce? Reverse searches give me nothing

There's no reason for a video game to be so unnecessarily complex.


The UI is fine unless you're retarded, the problem is that it's super complicated to so basic tasks. Mouses interface wouldn't help at all.

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The Last Of Us.

>Has there ever been such a divide between the reception of the (((critics))) and Holla Forums specifically?
Fixed that for you. Also yes, for every big title.

That still fucking tickles me to no end to see modern crybabies whine and pout about elections, stamping their feet and declaring they're going to secede from the Union. Let them try. I really hope one of these days, either Commiefornia or Texas make good on their threats. Because the question of secession was already settled long ago, and the answer is no. YOU can leave. The land and it's wealth has to stay. Secession is an act of War, and you will have to fight for and win your independence just like every other sovereign motherfucker in history has had to.

Texas is the only state that can secede whenever they want whenever and we legally cannot go after for after them for it. It's in the state's charter. No other state has that ability. Texas can leave, but California cannot.

This.


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The state's charter means nothing on the Federal level, though. I could write myself a license to sell cocaine, and even get a notary to sign it, but the DEA might have a few words to say to me about the legality of that. The only way for Texas to get out of the Union, is if Congress basically votes them out, and that's not going to happen so long as Texas keeps paying more into the federal reserves than they get back in grants. (Somebody has to subsidize Mississippi). That clause, even if favorably interpreted, didn't help Texas during the Civil War. It won't help them now.

Texas's charter does allow them to splinter off into up to (I think) 5 separate states without congressional approval, though… so they could kick Austin and Dallas the fuck out if they wanted. There's that at least.

And honestly, even if Texas did get out without much of a fight - they'd be right back where they were when they joined the Union. A breath away from a constant state of war with Mexico who still think it's their land, and without even the US to mediate depending on how bitter the separation was.

If anyone has a right to leave the Union, it's pic related.

But, then again:


The US is going to balkanize anyway, user. The stage is being set before your very eyes.

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It's the only one with a legit reason if we want to argue legality of secession, but I don't think it'll happen any time soon.

You can at least agree they have a better case than Cuckfornia, though.

Of course I agree they have the most case of anyone but it's just funny that through all this talk of succession and oppression of races no one cares about the Hawaiians because good beaches and foreign spending.

Yes, but can we vote California out? Please?

Anyone on the outside would tell you Infinite is great or at least good. Simplified and the plot a mess, but certainly has redeeming qualities that make it worth a playthrough. Something like Mass Effect 3 on the other hand was a PR disaster that made reviewers look tasteless because they didn't check for different endings since they beat it and assumed the one ending they got was unique to them and called it a day. Once the RGB comparisons rolled out then came the shitstorm.

Every time I see this game posted I lose about 10 minutes off my life. What an absolute shit-show of game design and "storytelling".


GET OUT OF FPS'S!

yeah sure, fam

You're a fucking retard. Complaining about an FPS not having deep gameplay is like complaining about a B movie not having artistic value. They're mostly meant to be simple games you play with your brain turned off.

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interesting.

It ends on cliffhanger. Not as blue ballsy as Halo 2, but still infuriating enough.

Literally all I would need is the ability to use the mouse on the interface instead of an entire key board of hot keys.

You're making an argument for less depth, you're fucking retarded.

Why are you even here?
I haven't played in a year but can remember most the hotkeys.

Its way more fluid then stopping and using the mouse it would only slow shit down.

I liked this game.

Ofcourse I don't dabble in pre release hype, marketing, YouTube, games media and critics.

Just the game. It allows me to have my own opinions free of outside influences.

Spec Ops: The Line?


Yep.

Once commiefornia leaves they can be milked for money because they don't have food and water to feed their sillicon and internet industry.
It'll be just like soviet union who sold ALL OF THEIR GOLD RESERVES just so they can have a few tonnes of grains.

you think droves of casuals and normalfags didn't cream themselves over tlou?

Nice digits!
Thank you, shame she's only 175, I wonder if there's a 190+ JAV actress

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DmC had a pretty big divide.

Of course it's faster once you've mastered it, but it's just another layer of bullshit keeping a newbie from the meat of the game.

I never have an issue acclimating to game mechanics, but holy fuck do I have no patience for a shitty control scheme.

IIRC they hyped the shit out of this game, it got like the best Metacritic score ever and then didn't they say it still sold like shit and closed the studio? It's hard to fuck up that bad

did you ever play Bioshock 1 or Bioshock 2? Because everything good about Infinite was ripped straight from those games, and everything they changed was a downgrade.

Just read the comics

Yet you can, you absolute definition of pleb. How did retards this fucking waterheaded find their way here?

DAILY REMINDER THAT BIOSHOCK 1 WAS ALSO SHIT

Bioshock infinite made promises it couldn't keep. Their idea for the game was either too controversial or more complex than they could handle so they just shit out some random tine travel your really the bad guy shit ending.

Infinite is a straight adventure fps. No better, maybe worse than a whole host of similar era games like Singularity, Syndicate, TheDarkness II, Bulletstorm etc. Have no idea why it got so hyped. Asthetics are nice but the shooting mechanics are genuinely dogshit.

Singularity was fun I really liked it.

a lot of people still praise the bioshock pre-release footage but I don't think these people get how even back then the game looked really bad. Massive button prompts, call of duty style fire fights, the "sprawling" level design looked incredibly faked and the game looked like the typical modern scripted shooter affair. The game never looked particularly good. Elizabeth was still annoying. The thing is in games production of this scale, certain little groups handle different parts of the game, and the way a director works on it in this environment is he oversees how each group is handling several parts of the game. Lets say a game has 15 parts. Bioshock infinite had 8 parts that were 90% done, and the rest were 35-60% done by the time it came down to the last 6 months. The game was stitched together with what they had, things cut, and the 8 parts became 5 100% done stitched together parts and the rest scrapped.

This is just how a lot of game development happens, what they shipped is the best of what they had and it really wasn't very good. Levine isn't a competent director and he was given full reign over the project. He didn't know how to handle the money, how to manage the actors, how to work with the designers, and the whole thing was a mess.

It surprises me how many people think games are made from level 1 to level 9, when in reality they're usually made from level 23 to level 31 to level 14, to level 4 and so on, and a bunch of shit is half finished in between, scrapped, stitched together and eventually packaged into something workable. From there it's polished up and depending on how well its polished, a lot of those seams might still show.

True. The lighting is pretty good but I hated the art style with the cartoony low-poly models.

God Hand

yeah, it kinda pisses me off when people insist it's got great world design. It's really just floating buildings with no sense of cohesion, flow or any semblance of a real societal structure. It's not even a compromise for fun level design either, it's essentially hallways where the walls are colonial houses on floating islands.

shit's lame.

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Id say the main problems are obviously these games abandoning more and more of any real rpg etc, elements/concepts iteration after iteration
At this point Prey (Arkane version) is better at it

I also didn't like the way you interacted with the city and its people. After all that intellectual masturbation about the game from the usual suspects, I was expecting the game to give me various ways to interact with the crowd but no… 5 minutes after arriving in the city you're the enemy #1 and the entire city wants you dead.
The final boss fight was such a chore… As for the twist (the multiverse thing) it really feels like something that they came out with at the last minute.

wouldn't that be the best way to make a game though?

I don't get how anyone can buy this crap expecting it to be anything other than a on-rails movie simulator. The goal for western studios around that time became "we need to raise video games to a higher artform", and the quality of a game only amounted to how neurotic and echoing the political message is. Fuck this game, and all the IGN faggots who peddled this rat-faced Ken Levine vermin feces to us for the last decade.

I have yet to meet anyone IRL who fawns over that game for anything other than "muh lesbians".


I played this long after it came out so I don't know what's up with that. Did it have anything to do with not being able to take an alternative action? Because I think that was kind of the point with that game.

Not really, there is just a lot of shit that you have to take care of but all of those things are reasonably simple and the game becomes really easy to understand once you've played Dungeon Keeper. I mean fuck, Dwarf Fortress is basically a more complex Dungeon Keeper at it's core.

The game was announced 6 years ago and it wouldn't surprise me if most of the people that got burnt by it here were in middle school at the time,.

Why can't nobody do Steampunk in a fun way? What happened to that aesthetic that it became so incredibly boring?

Is it just that there is not much that one can do with it besides slapping gears onto things or is it lack of talent.

I mean, it sounds cool on paper, right?

What was once a what-if fantasy was turned into anachronistic political soapboxing by hipsters.

Yes I also liked BioShock 1 and 2. I prefer to judge games on their own merit. It wasn't called BioShock 3 after all.

Fucking hell this place is awful.

Not at all.

Not really. If 2 levels (or more) take place in the same location, then a team will work on the two levels. Same if 2 levels require a special type of gameplay.
You get the same thing in the movie business. Scenes from movies and tv shows are shot out of order. If you have a bunch of scenes from different episodes taking place at a same location - let's say a restaurant for example - then they will shoot all those scenes back to back.

The writers of the Constitution clearly had in mind a voluntary union of states. Even if they hadn't, it's the only model that makes sense. Secession should be legal. If you aren't allowed to leave, you're in a prison, not a community. Besides, a state leaving could still be done legally, it would just require the approval of Congress, just like it would for a state (or territory) to join. So you're pretty much wrong on every level.
The Civil War was a special case, because it bound up secession and slavery into a single movement.


That's an urban legend, and incorrect.


Shooters are a pretty broad genre, with a lot of distinct sub-genres. Think of the differences in play between Bulletstorm, Rainbow Six 3, ARMA, Deus Ex, and Quake.


Yeah, at the end, Konrad basically says something along the lines of, "You could have just stopped playing the game." Which is true, but fuck you, I paid for it, I want to see how it ends.


Meaningless term. Why do so few people these days know what an adventure game is?

[spoilers]DmC[/spoiler]

Use two asterisks instead of the [spoiler] tag. Harder to fuck up that way.

I fucked up?

Kek. I'll see myself out for today.

>>>/4chan/

The war only became about slavery because Lincoln realized that if he made it about slavery he could keep France and England from supporting the Confederacy.

No, it was about slavery from the beginning. The states seceded because Lincoln supported Congress's efforts to forbid slavery in newly admitted states and territories. They thought (wrongly) that he wanted to abolish slavery outright, and (rightly) that slavery would wither away unless it was allowed to expand into the new territories. That's why the Confederacy seceded. It was also why the Confederacy immediately tried to wrest territorial control from the Union.
It ended up being a moot point, since industrialization spelled the end for slavery; the demands of capital would convert slave labor into wage labor no matter what. But in 1861, most people didn't realize that.

I liked it

This, also love how years after some faggots still made articles crying about it.

Oh duh, I forgot that the immediate momentary justification for war is what constitutes the actual cause. WW2 was obviously about Polish sovereignty, WW1 was obviously about Serbia, and who could forgot the Spanish-American War, the entire thing fought merely to avenge the death of the poor USS Maine?

Look at the facts you cherry-picking faggot, and instead of seeing what you want to, actually connect the dots.

don't mention central banks or the j-word user, the programming will kick in and his brain will shut down.

You know what led up to the Civil War, right? Bleeding Kansas and all that? That didn't come from nowhere. That was all about slavery generally, and specifically about the issue of whether the Western territories would become slave states or free states, and in what proportion.

If I were doing what you're implying here, then my argument would have been that the Civil War was all about the artillery stores at Ft. Sumter. Work on your reading comprehension.

What more relevant facts do you think I'm ignoring?

All these years later and they are still doing it archive.is/LqaNo holy fuck DmC really was some kind of "fuck you" they rallied behind.

It was the next step in the master plan after the "EW JAPAN IS WEIRD GUYS" shit from the 2000's on G4 and the like.

obvious case

The confederacy also feared continued slave revolts similar to the murders perpetrated by Nat Turner (took a band of 70 niggers and slayed 60 whites across 15 homes). Even if you didn't own slaves they were going to kill you for being a white southerner. There was real fear for life in allowing the abolition of slavery in the south.

Funny how all these low-t fake gamers end up working for Polygon.

Tell that to my 26 in-game year playthrough.

It's a pain to navigate at first yes but once you know what's what it's like riding a bike.

You can get some UI mod that lets you but to be honest they key setup is better.

John Brown probably did not help.

Those people aren't actual "gamers" though, they just parrot what ever game journals say to try and fit in.

b-but ALL CAPS and exclamation points will stop that meanie's picture from existing though

I never knew about this, in retrospect it does kind of resonate that the world seemed to have the scope for a lot more stuff to be happening but was left empty or nerfed.

is pretty much right. It was co-opted by worthless vermin, and the potential of steam punk (really all the -punks that have some merit like Diesel-punk) really make their lack of talent stand out.

Anyways, two examples. Honestly surprised no one mentioned Gone Homo, press jerked off till they jizzed blood and anyone with a shred of taste saw it as the non-entity it was.

This kinda goes for all TXR games as they tend to get everything right, except for the driving physics. While never 10/10 Goty they're still pretty solid, but tend to get mediocre scores.

The concept of Steampunk got turned into 100% cosplay shit so there's no steam and no punk, just a small cadre of plastic tryhard fake-nerds comiconning the fuck out of it ruining the perception so much that Infinite's misfire is seen as a norm.

You could easily have an army of massive clockwork creatures and insane weaponry.

I'm reminded of the book Anti Ice where a 'steam' powered spaceship accidentally had to slingshot around the moon and all the weird old skool solutions to modern problems, mechanical eyes, bathing under layers of rubber sheets to keep water in place out of atmosphere, storing dried rations in hidden wall compartments to save space, navigating with mental sundials and on the fly calculations.

I'm going with lack of talent.

Can you recommend some steam punk material, even if just a bare-bones concept vs some recent bastardization.


I read long time ago how Spec-Ops works brilliantly, true to the vision of the devs, if you played it first time without any prior knowledge thinking it is another generic cover shooter. The scenes look brutal, the narrative falls apart revealing the 'true ugly side of war', and the conflict of player vs character vs guilt whatever catches you offguard, even for a moment. The problem begins when you play it the second time or have prior knowledge about it, and it looks like it's trying to get you into a trap which you realise isn't even a convincing trap. All those PTSD fuckups now looks cheesy and "you should've stopped playing the game" is just like intentionally trying on your face, like a "wew lad, you should've not bought this game, not played till the end, if you didn't want to realise what our message is". Its a complicated feeling for me, difficult to explain. Like going into a horror ride where they fine you for being scared, telling you should've then never entered the ride. It doesn't make me question my actions, but does question the devs.
There could be many ways it could've been made better. My personal wishbone would be an alternative pathway revealed during the second playthrough, where you can make the choice of not doing the bad stuff, not even completing the missions, because you know how it would end from your previous play through. It would be jarring for everyone, your teammates, the enemies, they will call out Walker, even he will question what am I doing, the game will play out just as before and the destruction is inevitable, and then the game will be lost. But the player would have made his choice, showing he is different from the character of game and is willing to lose the game to gain some sort of authority or satisfaction.

To add to the pile, there's Deus Ex: Human Revolution. Somehow, that game got a collective score of 89, yet it has a cliched story; bland graphics; inconsistent audio quality and volume; and the gameplay is broken to the point where, on the hardest difficulty, you can clear entire areas with the "Take two guys out at once" augmentation, the stun gun, a concussion explosive, and a fully upgraded battery.

Meanwhile, something like ''Lux-Pain receives a score of 50, and it's only major problem is the low quality translation (Misspellings, slighty inconsistencies in finer details, disconnect between dubbed lines and written lines).

the devs are shittalking walker, not you

Dishonored does its strain of -punk really well, though I'm not quite sure what it is (its not steampunk).

It's whalepunk.

=3 What are we gonna do on the bed?

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Cuddle and hold hands

I seriously doubt anything in Skyoshock was actually scrapped. It's much more likely that the game was always a hallwayfest and they just slapped together a fake trailer to trick people into thinking otherwise.

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Giant red circle for retards actually covers a chunk of the joke. That's an r/4chan tier image.

except I didn't choose to upload it.

Yep

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Top 10 hottest anime girl

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I'm guessing Sunset can be thrown in the Gone Home pile as well. As can most walking sims.

/thread

No kidding.

The get gud factor at most game reviewing places is off the fucking charts.

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Thanks for proving me right.
lol, retard

The writers of the Constitution weren't a monolithic hivemind. There was a shit-ton of compromises made just to get states like New York to join in the first place. The moment the immediate threat of England's aggression had passed, what would there be to keep the colonies together and prevent them from splintering off and leaving the nation weak susceptible to invasion or infighting? No, it was a permanent arrangement. Always has been. Hence, there simply is no language in the Constitution anywhere to outline the process of secession.


Should be doesn't matter, because at the moment it's just a bullshit "what if", or "wouldn't it be nice if" scenario. All that matters is whether or not it is possible to legally secede, and the answer is no.


That's less a case of a state deciding to secede, and more a case of every other state voting to kick them out. States don't have the level of autonomy to decide for themselves whether or not they leave. That is up to the government.

Or rather, a state can decide to secede anytime they want, but to do so peacefully would require a near unanimous act of congress - or the ability to win their independence through strength of arms.


But you haven't proven me wrong on any point.


Except it wasn't. The language simply wasn't there to either allow or deny a state's right to secession, and so the question came down to a matter of fighting it out. And even after that, the decision was backed up by the courts in the case of White vs. Texas.


That wasn't until much later in the war, mainly as a means by which to keep France and England the fuck out of our war, and the average soldier in the field didn't give a damn about niggers or their freedom. They were fighting and dying to preserve the Union.

That's why slavery and emancipation were never mentioned in the Gettysburg Address, and it was expressly delivered as plea for the preservation of the Union. Remember that Lincoln was facing re-election the next year, and he didn't want to give the Peace Democrats any more ammunition to throw at him. Gettysburg was a major, though bloody, success for the Union - and Lincoln wasn't about to squander the morale and political capital the battle had won by using it to push Emancipation, which was deeply divisive even in the North. He framed it in terms of preserving the Union, which couldn't be spun as disrespecting the sacrifices of those who had died, and to which everyone in the North could get behind - and was directly opposed to the platform of the Copperheads who argued for allowing the South to go their own way.

I could have worded that last part better. The Emancipation Proclamation, preceded the Gettysburg Address. Point being that even after the issue of slavery was wrapped up into the politics to give the war a moral imperative, the war was still largely sold to the public as a means by which to preserve the Union. There simply wasn't enough support for emancipation in the North to drive the war on that topic. It was mainly used a leverage against foreign governments, and to keep rich philanthropists donating and organizing for the war effort.

First of all
Now into it
Magically. In seconds. Without anyone questioning it or behaving differently. Okay.
This isn't fun when we know you're faking it.
Damn right you're not.
No shit there are issues. She hasn't had human contact since menarche; she should be a FUCKING BASKET CASE. Absolutely terrified of meeting people, extremely shy, tries to apply her book knowledge and runs into situations in which people behave differently than expected, gets stonewalled ideologically, etc. The psychological effects of her imprisonment alone could have been a tremendously interesting game premise, but this faggot says that the Big Bang Theory (TV show AND actual event) makes him feel stupid, so good luck ever seeing that happen.
He had no time limit imposed on him.
Not an argument. You can clearly see to the ground the entire fucking time.
There ARE no details. That's why the question was posed.
That's not an answer.
So you admit you're a shill.
Okay, reported. It's not even funny.
Why aren't there any delivery points, then, fuckface?
Irony.

Fallout new vegas

Also, it should be pointed out that the war could have ended with Gettysburg. Once the Southern army was defeated and retreating, they were prevented from going any further due to a river suffering from a temporary overfilling. The Union army could have swarmed them and ended the war right there and then, but they didn't for some reason (It's speculated that they didn't attack because of the initial shock of the prior battle) and the Confederate army managed to escape. Lincoln wrote a scathing letter criticising the general for his lack of action, but it was never sent, and only found after his death.

The war could have been ended even earlier than that. Union scouts found Lee's entire battle plan for Antietam in a discarded cigar box, and when they presented them to McClellan, he promptly sat on his fucking thumbs and steadfastly refused to move on the information.

Lee had divided his Army up into five fronts, and McClellan could have dismantled the entire Army of Northern Virginia piece by piece while taking very little casualties. Without Lee's Army, keeping Union forces occupied in their own back yards, they could have marched on the South and ended the war within the year.

Truly, McClellan was the greatest General the South ever had - just so long as he wasn't working for them.

It's not meaningless. That's exactly the way to describe that category (or story fps). They do the exact same shit.

FUCK YOU

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they released two? There was one in Rapture before its collapse, what was the second one?

Also in Rapture. It was a sequel but you got to play as Elizabeth or something

Yeah, you play as Elizabeth (After she loses her time travel powers minutes after the finale to part 1), and it covers the first four days of the war in Rapture (Three of which she's asleep for). And, the grand finale is that she dies.

You forgot to mention how they shoehorned her into the backstory of the first bioshock with her needing to find the "would you kindly" phrase, she's even there for Suchong's death, for fuck's sake. Levine made his daughterfu ultimately responsible for the events of the game, as well as canonizing the good ending as well as ignoring the entirety of the sequel because "muh lighthouse, muh city, muh man." Eleanor is a superior character to Elizabeth in every conceivable way.

This should have been the first and last post in this thread.

I solved your puzzle.

You should know that with all of the "Time travel wibbly-wobbly-woo" that BaS introduced, they didn't actually retcon Bioshock 2. They just introduced three different timelines. It's like this, since we see Booker alive after he was suppose to die in the main-game, that pretty much means there is, at least, one universe where a Booker still exists. BaS introduced this universe because, in that one, Booker won the fight with Comstock, but baby Elizabeth died with her head getting cut off. Comstock then retreated from Columbia to Rapture, and that's where BaS takes place. How this splits off into a three-way is that you now have a Columbia that exists but Comstock isn't in charge; you have a Rapture which has been interfering with main-game Columbia and results in only Bioshock 1 being canonized; and then you have the third timeline which is where main-gamer Booker get's shunted off to, but baby Elizabeth is dead and Rapture is created the way it originally was (Without any interference from other realities).