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Pic 3 is cute tho

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all of the benefits of a legitimate publisher with none of those pesky milestones or contractual obligations!

Pic 3 will never happen
Shit, we'll be lucky if pic 2 happens

sounds like money laundering.

and then you have faggots say that summer is only a meme

Consider suicide if you want to shill here.

I guess it's not, because you're evidently not here in winter.
But if you want examples of kikestarter shit on 8/v/, two come to mind. That Night Cry game got a kikestarter thread on the basis it was from the clock tower devs. Naturally it sucked. Shenmue 3 got a lot of support for the announcement. The bastion of consumer integrity exists only in your head.

quiet, you're shattering his view of reality, next you'll tell him Holla Forums's active users fluctuated between 2700-3000 for the past year and is currently at 3000 and there was literally no measurable change since the summer season started.

don't tell him these things, he's a newfag, he needs to pick up on them over time and just forcing reality on him will cause him to lash out in confusion.

Too bad I don't donate to kikestarters.

any chance you actually archived any of those?

there were also threads just a few months ago on that not-parappa game

Has there ever been a successful kickstarter? I mean aside from Shovel Knight?

Well they are gooks, so odds are the yakuza is involved.

FTL

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>Undertale

This is a new level of kikery

The jews fear the samurai

Thats why most companies dont do 2d anymore, its just to expensive.

how about no

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I guess they fear the Japs will overshadow them with their own jewery

The single player was fucked over for a shitty PvP focus that nobody but the hardcore autists developing it wanted and it was downright unplayable on release due to massive technical issues. Not a sucess.
The game isn't even fucking finished and the developers decided to jew people with Titans and Digital Deluxe editions anyway. Even if it does ever get finished it'll still be an inferior game with a planet-smashing gimmick. Even fucking Steam reviews put it on 'mostly negative' and they're normally full of shills.
The game isn't even fucking finished, has basically not had any major content updates for months and it's literally in Early Access at this very minute. It might become a success eventually but it sure isn't one now.
Failed to live up to even half of its potential.
Still in Early Access, also the game gets boring pretty quickly due to basically being a super-easy 'make your own challenges' sandbox for anyone with an IQ >80. This is basically the same problem Prison Architect has.
No.
Developers promised the PvE mode/Alliance for years as a free update (or at least at a significant discount for early adopters) then pushed it out as a paid DLC splitting the already rapidly shrinking playerbase.
Another game that's basically a half-finished tech-demo that could have been great with some actual fucking content.
DLC jewery out the ass. Even setting that aside it's pretty much just endless grinding with no actual content.
Pretty much ruined by the shitty animation/combat system that any experienced player can abuse, instead of fixing this the devs just added more and more paid cosmetics and gave up on the game. If you haven't gotten past level 15 you won't have noticed it due to the equally shitty rank/matchmaking system.
Meme game, though admittedly one of the better ones.
They pulled it from sale to release an improved version, how is that a success? It was 5-6/10 at best.
Fun concept, boring after the first hour or so unless you find referential humour funny.
Last I checked it was getting worse with every patch.
Hong Kong was good, original not so much.

Against that I'd say Divinity: Original Sin and Xenonauts after Community Edition anyway are the only two successes I know of though I have heard good things about some of the other names on there.
Now those are only the ones I have direct experience but still unless you're defining 'successful kickstarter' as 'developer made a load of money for an inferior and/or half-finished product' you've got a lot of shit in that list.

lame

Can you retards stop posting? Examu are Japanese devs, they're not western devs hacks who never made a game in their whole life. The Arcana Heart series deserve more love, so fuck you.

Nigga fuck arcana heart, that's some gay shit
The game has been irrelevant in fightan for years, and there is no way for them to come back, They belong in doujin hell

Just fuck off back to Holla Forums.

No, user. Arcana heart is a bad game that only got so popular because of otaklus and fapbait. What is your desire for this game to come out? I doubt you want to play it. You probably just want to fap, right?

You left Grim Dawn, Rain World, Lisa, Risk of Rain, Factorio, and a shitload of other games out of your goalpost-moving shitpost. About half of them are fairly solid to okay, the other half range from mediocre to shit.
"Failed to live up to my impossible dreams of its potential" does not mean "Failed" or "Shit". I'll agree that a lot of Kickstarter shit is just that, shit, but it's not like it's an instant death knell. It's just a method of gathering money, what they do with that money is the important part. Fight Knight, for example, has zero stretch goals and they've said they have a very clear goal in what they want to make, they literally just need the money. They even removed the higher teirs when they realized there was no way to meet the expectations of the money they had coming in, trying to pare back to the smaller project they wanted.

I really wish there was an option on kickstarter to stop funding at full funding

Feels bad man

does liking that make me a furfag?

Are you retarded or did you just not read the fucking post? It says right there there are only the ones I have direct experience, do you want me to just assume how good the rest are? Granted the original fag you replied to did ask only if there were any successes but you don't get to accuse someone of goalpost-moving if you didn't define success in your post before listing a bunch of games. Define your terminology before you start faggot or we'll just end up in semantics.
In what world is 'okay' a success, particularly if more was promised initially?
If the project failed to live up to what it promised/appeared to promise to get people to pay up then it is not a success, at least not from the point of view of those people. And that ignores the cases of outright jewing customers who have already paid for extra content which, while admittedly a fairly rare occurrence, is not in any way preventable in the Kickstarter model. In what is somewhat of a running theme with Kickstarter you just have to gamble on the devs not being cocks.

Now granted the original post you replied to did only ask for successes rather than a defence of Kickstarter in general, so consider everything below this a reply more to that than your original list.
And the method of gathering money is itself flawed because it is not linked to actual progress, technical skills, ability to deliver, ability to budget, intent to deliver, legal requirement to deliver, non-malicious behaviour etc etc: you're literally just throwing money at a bunch of promises and hoping they happen.
Now it's fair to say most developers involved in failed (or if you prefer 'non-successful but sometimes solid') kickstarters don't intend to fuck up though actual malicious/semi-malicious behaviour does happen and you have little-no legal recourse then but there's generally a reason they can't raise cash through standard methods: they're an extremely risky investment. The way the odds play out 1:50 kickstarter projects might end up half-finished or even playable but lacking in content and 1:100 might be an unqualified successes but the remainder will be fuckups and you're an idiot to play those odds. Investors/Publishers are not in the business of being idiots with their money and some creative-types with crazy ideas are inherently huge risks. Now granted investors/publishers want to make a profit while Kickstarter backers just want a fun game but arguably that's an even harder task for the dev to accomplish particularly when they have no legal requirement to finish the game or oversight of a non-retard telling them what to cut. Obsidian, for example, have performed even more poorly without a publisher breathing down their neck to actually budget both their time and their money and that's a dev with years of experience behind it (best case scenario for a Kickstarter).
That wouldn't be a bad idea though really what it needs is a requirement to post a properly thought out budget for the original sum (preferably for three years+). Now that doesn't mean I need to see how much a dev spends on toilet paper but I do need to see (roughly) what yearly wage each one is paid along with costs like renting an office etc etc. It'd still be a gamble but you could remove the idiots who think they need ~70k a year to develop vidya in San Francisco.
Praiseworthy but all the good intentions in the world still doesn't mean they'll deliver a halfway decent game.

tl;dr every Kickstarter is inherently a massive gamble and cherry-picking a (highly questionable) list of 'successes' doesn't mean shit (might as well list 'roulette players who retired on their winnings') though I don't think you (originally) intended that list to be a defence of Kickstarter anyway.

no

You forgot about the greatest example of kikestarter…
Star Citizen

Don't forget about Broken Age and Mighty No. 9

Can you retards stop posting? Inafune is a Japanese dev, he's not a western dev hack who never made a game in his whole life. The Megaman series deserves more love, so fuck you.

Do you even know what that (1) even means? Why would he have any more than (1) post if that was his first and the most recent post in the thread until you replied to him? Calling out (1) would make sense if he said something stupid, contributed nothing to the thread, and then simply left despite so many trying to reply to them. Which is why people say "One and gone". It's like getting upset that someone bothered to join the conversation.


What even makes any of the 3 Arcana Heart iterations a bad game? It being irrelevant in the western scene doesn't make it a bad game, if you were implying that. And if you were, that would mean SFV is fantastic since it's so well known to the fighting game scene. If the all female cast and ecchi artstyle doesn't put people off, then it's how difficult the game is to get into because there aren't many like it, and no tutorials. It actually does a good few thing that barely any other fighters does like Homing, the Arcana system, Clashing, and Extend Force. Touhou 12.3, Dragon Ball Fighterz, and Daemon Bride are one of the only few games that do that have anything similar to the Homing system which gives you multiple ways to approach and avoid your enemy. It's not like the game is absurdly unbalanced either.


It's something that's seen on /monster/ and /kemono/. Not like it matters. Fap to whatever you please. People won't care much as long as you don't act like a obsessive faggot and shove your fetish in people's faces.

Since you went through the trouble of writing that garbage, I'll humor (You)

Did you play any of the games? Last time i played arcana heart was about 6 years ago with FGC fags in the west coast. The game had poor balancing based on your team, and some assists were flst out better than everyone else's. This lead to the game being stale and uninteresting. The cast was full of forgettable anime fapbait, catering to various fetishes. Nothing about the game stood out, other than it is anime loli mahvel.
Okay faggot you are full of shit. The arcana system was busted in 3, and very fag enabling in 2
Why would i want to home in on my opponent and possibly get fucked by a strong launcher or super, maybe even a grab? Id rather neutral jump or airdash and airturn to position myself. If the amount of tech skill to properly play arksys and most anime fighters is too hard for you, maybe you need to git gud.
Are we talking about the same game here? The game is busted, 2 is unplayably broken. 3 was the cherry on the shit pie.
Conflating my words, bitch nigga. It is irrelevant here in the FGC because it is trash. I dont know if you started playing after 09, but people in the FGC have played arcana heart plenty of times. Hell, ive attended anime fighter tournaments where there were sizable emtrants into AH2. It just isnt fun. The playerbase is despicable but that's not a real reason, just an observation,and full of weebs/niggers. The matches are either boring snoozefests or hype blowouts fueled by outside drama between players.
And why even mention DBFZ when you havemt played it, and it hasnt even released. Are you basing your opinion from youtube or ecelebs?
Once again, NIGGA FUCK ARCANA HEART

Are you fucking retarded or just lying?
Thats every game

Naruto players and melty blood players were pretty cool in my experience. Worst was probably SF by a long shot. Mahvel was mostly niggers, obviously those niggas who watch anime, play naruto and nba/madden on the side, probably remember them from public high school. Very glad I left the FGC a few years ago, that place has become a real shithole. The genre has been on life support since 4 and has a grim prognosis.

Only 3 so far. Still trying to get that NESiCAxLive emulator working to play the second game. If not, I'll just play it on PCSX2. So all of my examples will be based on 3 and Love Max.

I'm guessing you mean like Time, Wind, Lightning, Blossom, Love, Sacred, Earth, and maybe Tyr? Besides Time, all of those are pretty simple to use. So it makes sense that most players would use those over others. Things like Water, Plant, Fire, Luck, Gravity, Light, Punishment, and Sin are less seen due to the odd passives that take time to get the most out of them. But that doesn't make them bad. Plant allows for more damaging meterless combos and a great super upon hard knockdown. Sin can hamper people's movements with the orb super and the Arcana Eclipse is a great punishment tool but the Arcana drains your health.

How so? I can't speak for 2 but what makes 3's so bad?

The only time anyone would attempt to grab someone out the air is either when they're recovering in mid-air or when they're starting up their homing. Otherwise you'll easily be beaten out by the person homing toward you. Most would rather block or jump into the air to avoid the cross-up or high low mixup. Also any anti-air super like Heart's or Weiss's anti-air super doesn't do much damage unless they are essentially hugging you at the start up. Those too can be blocked in midair. If you're homing toward anyone, you should be holding back anyway unless you're trying to change your angle to land early or get behind them. As for strong launchers, most won't attempt that because they don't know exactly how fast someone will home towards them or if they're going for a cross-up. They'll most likely do that in the corner because it's easier to hit someone homing toward you in the corner even if they attempt a corner cross-up.

You still have that option. That's not gone from that game just because homing is in. In fact you can home in straight above some and constantly zigzag while moving downward to make the other player guess which side you're going for.

You can say that for most fighters. Though I'm most adept at Fighting Climax Ignition and DoA5 right now since I've been playing those recently.

And yet it consistently has tournements in Japan.

Because I played the demo at Anime Expo earlier this month. I even said "Dragon Ball Fighterz, and Daemon Bride are one of the only few games that do that have anything similar to the Homing system" so I don't see why it's confusing that I brought it up. DBF has a mechanic that makes you quickly fly toward the other player no matter where you are. However, unlike AH, you don't control the trajectory or have the ability to change the speed of how fast you move. Who knows how they'll change it before release though.

違う

I'm gonna be fair, AH1 and AH2 are fucking trash, they can be enjoyed but I can't deny they are low quality (more like first attempts). And maybe AH2 was the less shittier.
But AH3 was the best direction to go into the series and it's probably one of the best fighting games ever made, meanwhile people still play Duty Fighter.
LOL, there is like only 3 characters that are shit IN HIGHEST LEVEL (Nazuna, Lilica, Fiona), everyone else is pretty much viable, Arcana System makes it so that some matchups can benefit from using different arcanas or even against different playstyles.
And yes, there are like 3-4 characters that stand out a bit, but that's mainly because someone has to be there, it's something that will always happens in fighting games. But you now I'll give you some credit because there are characters that perform a bit too well on low-mid level while also being somewhat easy to play.
No, 1 and 2 were just unknown because they started when "Anime" FG where niche as fuck and as I said they are vastly inferior to 3, if it's irrelevant right now it's because "Yo' that's too weeb" mentality that people without taste or well thought opinions, the same kind of people that you later discover those guys watch shit like Eromanga Sensei because they are the closetests weebs ever.
Team? Assists? Marvel? The fuck game are you talking son? Arcanas are just a button with commands and supers, that modify your statistics and have some special properties they are your 5th button not an assist.
But you know, Tyr is really good right now. If your character can do good combos and pressure/mixup on her own chances are that Tyr is one of her recomended Arcana, Love is kinda the same. Those are the "universal" kinda of Arcanas and they are done like that on purpose, Maybe Tyr's properties are a bit too good as of now. but they don't invalidate all the other Arcanas.

Also what the fuck with people comparing this KS with things like MNº9 or Broken Age, This kickstarter is just for doing the PORT from the arcades, the game itself is already done and the stretch goals are just additions. Which some of them are cool but it's a shame they didn't consider adding something like GGPO.
They asked feedback on twitter 2 days ago and got a fair share of "get GGPO pls" so who knows.

Oh, so this is all you know. Don't play 1 or 2, they are a dumpster fire.
It's more of the same, now with more fapbait. I admittedly havent played 3 or love max at length.
you have very little time to fall after homing and your character doesnt move that fast, stop exaggerating.
SF, KoF, marvel, MK, and KI completely lack air turn. That mechanic is unique to anime fighters.
why play that LN trash when you could play a better french bread game: Melty Blood? And playing DoA5 isnt helping any, that is a shitshow and that franchise has been dead since 2.
Yes, and they still play Super Turbo, 3rd Strike, @3, and even KoF98 and 2002. That doesnt mean a goddamn thing. Burgerland is not japan, deal with it.
How was the demo? I'm sure you went there to go anal spelunking with some faggots, but I hope you got a good hands on with the game and not some grimy dicks
When did you start playing fighters, what was your first fighter? Let me guess, SF4 in 2010 after watching EVO?

You don't do it after jumping off the ground. You do it after hitting someone into the ground from high in the air. Which can be done with E or an air throw with Heart. From there you can set up the Lightning Arcana super. Then while homing downward, you activate the lightning super while zigzagging back and fourth creating a very hard to predict cross-up.

I thought you meant the fundamentals learned from anime fighters. My mistake.

Because my friends don't want to play Melty Blood. 1 friend loves anime fighters and the other simply hates 2D fighters for reasons he'll never really state besides the fact he likes the idea of sidestepping. Though he never actually sidesteps.

People really underestimate DoA5:LR. They actually made it into a much better fighter compared to the earlier games. People don't take it seriously because it's known for being a fanservice fighting game but they did a much better job this time around.

You brought up it was irrelevant to the FGC because it's shit. Yet they play it with all those other great fighters. Just because the FGC western FGC doesn't play it much suddenly makes it bad? More likely because it's niche and the artstyle immediately push people away before they actually give it a try.

Not bad. Only got to play it once though. The line was constantly packed. I think it could use more depth though. It feels a little too easy to play. My friend and I were pulling of 9 hit combos into supers without much effort. Everyone has a universal cross-up that teleports you behind the enemy but takes away 1 meter as well. It can somewhat be used to chain combos longer. Like Marvel, you combo into launchers and then smack them down and OTG with an assist or special normals. There was some sort of power-up mode too but we weren't sure what it did exactly.

Street Fighter 2, Killer Instinct, Battle Arena Toshinden, and Primal Rage. Followed by Dead or Alive 3, MvC2, and Soul Caliber 2/3. Then I switched between Melee and GGXX:Reload for a good while. I didn't really care much for SF4 or MvC3 and stayed with Tatsunoko VS Capcom. Later I went to Project M for a while and branched to anime fighters later. I've been getting into more fighting games as I found friends who enjoyed. Got into Garou, Fighting Climax, DoA5, Blade Arcus, Marvel Super Heroes, Marvel VS Street Fighter, Jojo Venture, Arcana Heart 3, Melty Blood, Koihime Enbu, Nitroplus Blasters, Vanguard Princess, UNIEL, and KoF 98/2002. At this point, I think all I play is fight games and dungeon crawlers.

Inafune has never made a game in his whole life. He's merely a business man who pandered to SJWs. Examu is not pandering to SJWs. Have you seen the new 3 characters design? Half naked loli and huge-titted naked woman.

If it's a cpu only character, then they have their inputs and sprites already coded in the game as any other character. Those types of games are purely object oriented.

I guess the 70k goes into playtesting and rebalancing though, but still. Anyway, I don't blame them for making money.

You have a huge hateboner for anime tiddies, bud.

Do you know where we are?

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Sadpanda where?

dont lie to us here, user
No, user, there is a thing called autism that most japs have that makes them have an unhealthy attachment to things. Especially cute anime girls or anime tiddy.
so you never participated in your local FGC, just masturbated in the shadows?
it's okay, friendo. Does anybody even still use the main client anymore?
And you didnt recount the anal extravaganza you and your 'friends' had in the hotel room at AX

Nah, I love anime tiddy. AH is lame, autistic anime tiddy tbh. Peanut butter all over your body autistic, not sara ryder autistic

Can't they just make a Arcana Heart 4?

They are making it. There isn't much news out at the moment. They did ask a few questions.

The majority of eastern and western fans agreed that it was just fine.

Western fans told EXAMU not to listen to anyone that tells them to tone down the character designs because they were never potential customers to begin with.

I don't know what they plan on doing from there.

source?
You cant just quote shit randomly with no source, this isnt lebbit.
Your (You)

If you support this you're an idiot
I pledged $60
No bully pls

Can't wait for the threads bullying you when it bombs or turns out as a dud :^)

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You can already get your hands on Six Stars. I uploaded this the other day.

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Okay, so by your logic, I don't need to buy this game nor support the kikestarter as it's easily piratable. You are really shooting yourself in the foot with trying to promote this game. Pls go back to dustloop or whatever forum you crawled out of. Are you being paid per post, or hourly?

Trips of being a fucking retard.

You deserve to get bullied, nerd.

What makes you think you had a choice to refuse sheep? You WILL support this kickstarter. You have no choice!

>you WILL support the kikestarter, goyim! Do it or else I'll (((kvetch)))
Okay, paid per post, I see.
You suck at your job, by the by. Maybe you should look into working at a call center or something, I'm sure you could shill TV subscriptions to goy with your amazing marketing skills.

That's misleading, Kamiya was angry that Bayonetta was depicted submissively in all the doujinshi he read. He believed she should be domineering in them

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DUDE SHE'S ALL NAKED AND SHIT

I should try creating an image about the evolution of nopan.

Considering Shark Girl is a stretch goal I take it they took the hint that the west is ok with "risky" designs.

Why are you so retarded?

kek'd

Who you calling pinhead?

HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA.

cumon step it up

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If the store is owned by chinks, then itll pass. :^)

After some time, here is where we are at right now.

Can you retards stop posting? Comcept are Japanese devs, they're not western devs hacks who never made a game in their whole life. The Mega Man series deserve more love, so fuck you.

Here's more love for all you people who supported Mighty No9 even though it was a blatant cash grab and kept with them after it became known funders input was meaningless!
Choke on it

Nope. I have a perfect record with not funding anything, and I'm keeping it thay way. If the game is amazing after it releases, maybe, but not now.

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tl;dr Examu is jewing again.