Missable permanent upgrades

Did you ever encounter situation when after like 30 hours in gameplay you learn that you missed an essential upgrade and there is NO way to get it, except replaying from scratch?
Did you continue on, restart, or drop the game altogether?

What about upgrades that seriously improve the gameplay and should have been in since the beginning but you have to go out of your way to find and only receive by having progressed well into the story?

Pretty bad, but as long as you never fucked out of them and can go back and get them I can deal with it.

Get out, casual scum.

Literally happened to me 3 weeks ago with Last Remnant

Was following a 100 percent guide but forgot to talk to Duke of Ghor after raiding a base and lost my ability to beat it completely. Also a 35h save

I remember some game where it's actually possible to miss the ability to fucking run but can't remember what game it was.

It's crash 3
woah

I'm pretty sure it was 2d whatever it was.

The Last Remnant is not a good game.

It's pretty solid as far as JRPGs go. The world and premise are enjoyable and the soundtrack is amazing. I appreciate the lack of visible information which makes you need to pay attention to how you grow your characters, which also makes powergaming a bit harder.

I mean it has its faults, but overall I think the good outweighs the bad

Spoiler: all games with perma missables are inherently shit

Lots of questionable shit. But some of the frustratig shit/exclusive content makes sense and makes the characters feel more like characters. Like if you're some waifish nobody with no presence and you decide to recruit people belonging to two different, opposed organizations they're gonna come to blows in time and kill one another.

Essential for beating the game? Then the game is shit. Otherwise, it's good design. You are not entitled to everything in the game.

I'm not talking about mutually exclusive choices, or when shit you get/don't get is dictated by story.
More like - didn't talk to random ass NPC that never appears ever again = lost accessory slot for life. Retarded shit like that.

Did you read the filename? There's a permanently missable character in the Nashkel Mines with no conflicts, there's missable permanent stat increase tomes both with end-of-game and the candlekeep catacombs, there's time limits on what you can do so if you're looking around exploring for instance to try not to miss anything you'll have party members go "Fuck this shit, we joined you to go see about X and you're dicking around with Y. Bye."

Sorry user I rarely ever read filenames.

Did you? Define "essential". Because I take that to be "required to complete the game".

Dropped.

Autism.

If it's essential, then the game is broken and shouldn't have shipped. If optional, non-essential upgrade, then who gives a fuck.

Why does MMORPG stat/skill point assignment bullshit have to exist?

You would think to jew paid resets out of people, except

FE4. If you don't marry or recruit particular characters, then the game becomes extremely hard in the second part because you won't have their children.

when does this ever happen, seriously?

Tree of Savior immediately comes to mind. I think some old MMOs also did that.

I can't speak for what it's like now, but back when Secret World first came out it was definitely like that. You couldn't even respec for a long, long time, then when they introduced it it was a premium feature

That's because you didn't need to respec in TSW - there's no cap on AP so it's possible to unlock every skill in the game on a single character.

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This fucking cunt.

You'll probably get bitched at by autists saying "pyromancy is not an ESSENTIAL part of the game" and call you entitled or something.
To be fair I encountered her on my first playthrough because I quickly realized pyromancy was pretty powerful and upgrading it was worth it, but I can see people getting mad at her being invisible without artbitrary requirements.

This piece of shit if you want to get the true ending (And, even then, I hear that isn't even best ending).

You both kinda have a point, but why do we always have to insult each other instead of trying to think clearly about these arguments.

It does feel kinda bad when something like this happens, but on the other hand it adds to replayability, if the game itself is good that's just one more reason to play it again.. if it's not do you really care about getting every upgrade there is?

and this user is right if you completed half the game without even realizing you missed something, I don't think you can call it essential

When I first played Gothic I for the first time for example, I didn't go to the new camp until chapter 3 or 4 (because I couldn't find it, and didn't know the gameworld well) thus missing lots of content. Didn't bother me in the least because the game was great,
also it is a bit more realistic to miss some things

If you use much pyromancies, you will have +10 pyromancy flame when you'll enter Blighttown.

Oh user, I admire your innocence of Sierra games.

You save pretty much everyone you could in the true ending and learn the actual state of affairs, I dunno how it's not the best.

I killed bed of chaos on my pyro before I found her so she never showed up. I had searched everywhere to try to find where the last pyro trainer was, but by that time I had already permanently missed her and was unknowingly wasting my time. It wasn't until I finished the game and looked up where the trainer was that I learned about it. Was mad.

Looking at you Path of Exile

I played through the first Xenoblade without a guide and missed about 90% of the content.

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