Dawn of War Thread: Pretending DoW3 Doesn't Exist Edition

Reminder that only edgy children unironically like Chaos.

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Reminda dat ur dakka es shit !

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SAD!

The game is boring shit, but some fans are trying to mod it with Guardsmen, dunno if they're still working on it.

Sadness.

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this game was shit with frame rates all over the place, which I think its unacceptable for a fps

you are a faggot

Realistically an Eldar focused game would likely feature playing as a dire avenger.

how is this even a surprise ? the edditor are focus interactive.
they created a superb customer friendly marketing strategy with the "early adopter" stuff for battlefleet gothic were pre ordering, buying day one or within the month (aka:after the reviews are out) will give you the same bonus as a standard 2017 pre order gift. This is a great thing because it's was sign that they trust the quality of the game and that people will like it and buy it even after the reviews.

but this time they went back and decide to bait pre order with EXCLUSIVE CONTENT stripped from the game.
how can one be surprise that the game would be shit if the edditor itself know it will suck so much that they better sell it as much as possible before reviews comes out ?

BAZINGA!

This must be a bit disheartening tbh.

that was the best yet tbh

it's all because of the devs, E.Y.E was great and people thought the same quality would be had after enough updates in the same vain as eye did

Depends on the game. Dire avenger would give the most options, striking scorpion would be nice for MGS "stealth," and warlock would be similar to Dire Avenger but with psyker horseshit instead of eldar weaponry.

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Someone has to play the villain

Sisters need new models to be relevant, but their rules are fairly ok.

There were warning signs after a few months, glad a lot of anons did not pre-order other than talk about the game, there wasn't much fun when the only thing you'll do is clear room and move to the next objective, rinse and repeat.

The problem was the setting, in E.Y.E. they did not give a shit and so they didn't have any limitations on what they would put out, in Deathwing Space Hulk, well, fuck.

what how does that make sense? if anything the other way round would be appropriate

Warhammer 40K has various factions and limitations on what you can have on your player character, you can't make a dual-wielding space marine with psychic powers that can teleport and use katanas and summon an army of clones can you? Now in a Space Hulk game there's a lot of fluff of what you can and cannot do, now imagine what you can do in EYE is applicable in that game.

I know you can but with deathwing chapter? highly unlikely

Skub detected, you're gonna get purged for this heresy.

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Grey Knight psykers can't do any of the aforementioned shit. Read the lore, faggot.

shit psykers tbh

Grey Knights can do this much, if you do a little kit bashing for a katana and they do have a dude with an army of ghosts.

Oh, fuck off. You had more fun, better firearms, better AI AND more enemies on screen in the 1996 adaptation.

Granted, this is already in the game if I recall correctly with a literal copy/paste teleport to the guy you use it on and gib their body. Oh yeah, and Mordrake has been retconned, although that's Geedub's fault I suppose.

Which DoW1 expansion is the best to start with for someone who can't play the base game?

Should've made a Deathwatch game where you fly around the universe killing Xeno's.

how can you not play the base game?

Double skub, there is no Deathwing chapter you heretic, get out of here and take your Kaldor Draigo bullshit with you.

Your nostalgia filter is clouding your judgement and getting you closer to the blood thirst there brother. all the Space Hulk games were shit.

Why can't you play the base game? I'd say Dark Crusade.

You're implying that GeeDubs know how to give the license of their game to quality developers and not just whore it out to everyone who can make it.

basically the same shit tbh keep your fanny out of your panties

Don't tell me you are autistic enough to say that only the swords included in the GW kits are the only way force swords are ever made ever and there is no room for variation outside of GW approved plastic shapes. Considering each one of those swords is a master crafted piece of amazing wonder it's hard to imagine a 10,000 times folded katana not fitting in there. The teleporters are one of their fast attack options, it's just a backpack.

You're still wrong faggot.

Lore-wise? Yes, infact. Do I actually care if you use them or kitbash such things? Of course not.
Ok. This isn't relevant at all to what I said; You can already teleport in Deathwing with Psyker powers.
Say whatever you want to justify how you make your own models bud, it's still not canon. Find me any examples in the lore, and I'll accept that I was wrong and that Streum On are just bad at video game design.

*teleports behind you*
for the emperor…. kiddo

o.k

>didn't even scratch the surface
EYE, and even space marine had it's moments but this shit is plain shit. I repeat, by the most well polished golden knob of the Emprah thou shalt fucketh off.

So if something doesn't exist in plastic it doesn't exist in the tabletop even if it's in the codex? Tell that to the numerous heroes people have had to make on their own throughout the years because GW didn't feel like making models for them or discontinued them.

It is, you mentioned that Grey Knights psykers "can't do any of that shit" in reply to but this is part of my rebuttal to that. They can teleport with a simple backpack, doesn't even need to be a pskyer.

I never claimed this specific instance was, but "canon" is decided by pretty much anyone with enough shekels to pay for the license to make a game or write a book so strictly limiting yourself to that criteria is just gay.

Books are worse, actually. Games can and have been retconned, but commissioned sanctioned books are there to fucking stay.

What the fuck are you talking about
Nobody is even discussing the tabletop game, faggot.

Yes. And it has nothing to do with psykers. It is literally a non-rebuttal, as it just proves my point.

I don't care about your faggy opinion or how your OC-Do-not-steal gary stu is as legit as anything that cames out of the black library. You're still objectively wrong.

Yeah… Yeah that's true. Unless you count squatting or codex updates.

Oh is that why we were talking about grey knight psykers? Learn to follow a conversation you yourself were part of.

Literally nobody was talking about the tabletop at all. The tabletop itself can't really be consulted for this shit given that it has some glaring contradictions with the lore and setting itself for the sake of being game.

how about dem mods right?

Sure, I love me some codex updates. And the fluff that accompanies it? Forget about it. I especially appreciate how the whole shtick about space marines being rare and having to treasure and venerate ancient equipment patched a gorillion and one times or even fucking organs cannibalized from the dead was essentially a prank.

And the moment they found the joke a tad stale? I guess we'll roll out a legion's worth of supersayan space marines that come better equipped than your average primarch like it's fucking nothing.

It doesn't work through Wine.

but the other games do? soul storm or Dark Crusade is your ownly bet then

not to mention tabletop was technically a pay2win game ages before the term even fucking existed.

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FUCKING XENOS.

No it's shit. I'm torn, on the one hand this game bombed hard enough to be a franchise killer so that could be the end of DoW. But on the other hand i'm glad 40k fans were angry enough to completely and totally tell that pseudo assfaggots bullshit to fuck off.

why anyone would play that bloated, completely broken mess is beyond me. Balance was thrown out of the window years ago, it will toast your cpu and all the custom units look likes ass, specially sororitas. Firestorm has lots of units and it's actually balanced except maybe chaos but I think I am not meant to beat chaos sorcery with IGs

Not even unironically

*UA. I got them mixed

sell me on pirating DoW1 or 2. What makes them stand out compared to other RTSs?

dow1 has lots of different factions with different play styles

dow2 is alot closer to the tabletop

Nothing much, other than cool units it's a standard rts, each faction plays differently

closer to the tabletop with 1/10 of the tabletop units, yes

I think as though they just straight up thought the equipment upgrades were the different enough to make up for that

You can get all of the expansions through the Wine software downloader client thing, but not the base game, which leads me to believe it just doesn't werk.

or no one has put the effort into it

Dawn of war 3 that bad?

it really looks it

You Anti-skub pieces of shit are always coming out of the fucking woodwork. It's 2017 and you are still at it day in and day out.

ACCEPT THAT SKUB IS HERE TO STAY. ACCEPT THAT SKUB ARE FUCKING YOUR DAUGHTERS.

What really made it different at the time was the squad mechanics and the control points. Not many other games at the time demanded map control quite as much, control points and relics make sure that each player has to sally forth instead of turtling to get resources and to unlock their best units. The squad mechanics aren't that big of a deal but it makes unit control a lot quicker, plus you can customize most squads with special weapons. You can also attach specialist units or heroes to squads to add combat power and other bonuses like better morale or more health regen.

In short, it's an RTS that's easy on the micro but doesn't let that get in the way of interesting gameplay.

DoW 2 is similar, but smaller in scale. It has destructable terrain and a larger focus on unit abilities. If you played Company of Heroes it's a lot like a W40k version of CoH, it even has directional armour for vehicles. Personally I like both CoH 1 and DoW 1 better than DoW 2.

SKUB A SHIT

Its so bad that Relic wrote a love letter to whatever exists of their dying player base, giving a new game mode and skins. They had 25k players on launch, today its around 1k.

Fuck them though, unless they completely rework the game to start looking like DoW instead of a shitty ASSFAGGOT ripoff, I'm not even going to pirate this much less give them any money.

You can shit on the gameplay but the design of the ships and how detailed they are is any Gothic Armada fans wet dream