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It'd be more interesting where you play an a military policeman giving out parking tickets and arresting degenerates and having you walk old people across the street.

CoD 1's guns were fucking ass i.e. bolt-actions couldn't one-hit kill and AA had weak guns as well. 3D was also an important video game in general so that's why it's high up and not bad for what it is.

The possibility to play it as walking sim is quite significant. But if we are extremely lucky we can play as policeman, yes.

The problem with New Order and Old Blood is that just when you are starting to enjoy playing the game a fucking cinematic happens and kills any momentum you had, also the story is bleh.

Are you guys #hype for the new game?

Imagine my shock

Everything is better under fascism, baby.

I liked the Sten though.

Yeah, the bolt action was my main gripe, but I'm talking about the responsive animations. Using automatic weapons in AA and CoD makes your enemy fall on their knees in pain due to the kick. In RtCW, the enemies have zero response.

What is this shit meme
Old Blood is a shittier version of Return to Castle Wolfenstein with RUNNING ZOMBIES. Get your heads checked.

What started that meme anyway? I know you guys are kidding but I'm curious.

Nobody is kidding. Fascism is the clean up crew after the liberals have wrecked society.

They're probably going to pull a horseshoe theory or libertarian point of view with the game with how they portray the nigger and redneck commie and BJ wanting to return America to what it once was but I wouldn't grip the ticket.

You don't need to prove anything to me user, it was just a harmless question. Anyway what do you think of the first Wolfenstein?

The only Wolfenstein I've played is Return the Castle Wolfenstein.

dude…

Society was, is, and always will be wrecked no matter who's in charge.

Look at the comments on youtube.com/watch?v=xHht8480cEo niggers, GamerGay, shitlibs and Holla Forums marxist scum are already pushing that narrative.

In the end they shall ask for mercy, but the Nazis never even heard of it.

a nuWolfenstein-style dieselpunk game featuring soviets instead of nazis would be pretty interesting.

3D wasn't good at release and it sure as hell isn't good now.

Better gun sound effects and damage than Doom.

A game (with swastikas) where you play as a Nazi and the main enemy is Soviets would be good.

While it's the opposite of what you're asking for, World at War is pretty good because it actually portrays your soviet allies as brutal savages.

Catacombs 3D is better

Are you guys trying to roleplay or something?

They pretty much treat everyone as savages.

Now this shitty new one has niggers and women.
And the multiplayer will be the same garbage where everyone uses weapons from any faction.

are you comparing it to wolf3d or the original castle wolfenstein?

Theres a CoD 2 mod with that

I don't remember WaW very well but CoH 2 also portrayed Soviets accurately.

Are you fucking with me.

Wrong. As long as the power lies in the hands of patricians, landowners and soldiers, society is well. Giving the underclass any voting power in the republics of the world was a mistake, and their women a further mistake.

Fucking this. Catacomb 3D is fucking crazy.

You blind Isaf dog?

Multiplayer until 4 at least had faction especific weapons.

Nevermind I thought you were talking about TNC.

Oh no, that one will be shit multiplayer or not.

Defeatism must be purged.

They confirmed that there wasn't going to be any create-a-class in the new one, and the E3 trailer (which was actually multiplayer footage) showed everyone using faction specific weapons.

Nope if they wanted to accurately portray Soviets they would have raped German women/children (8-88 as they often said), and get drunk and loot places in the process.

accidentally deleted the reference number

meant for

Nope
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What's your standard for "well"? Nothing in the world can be absolute, only the dead feel no discomfort. Everyone just spews idealistic nonsense about welfare and wealth when in reality what we truly need is a reason to live.

To 3D

Well shit.

Yeah, I suppose burning surrendering german conscripts alive isn't as bad as looting a few stores.

Not a fucking few, you know an entire village committed suicide from their mixture of raping and looting alone?

Not all soviets are like these. Shit happened because ussr enrolled fucking criminals into army. Ruined Russian military for a hundred years. And supply shortages never helped morale either. So, it was a mixed bunch.

How many of them were actual criminals and how many of them were people arrested for sneezing near a commissar, starving peasants and just general Asiatic savagery are the main causes along with a heavy dose of propaganda.

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Adolf Hitler was 5'8". So was Napoleon.

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ENEMY TERRITORY UBER ALLES

HAHAHAHAHAHA
its not a joke

Thanks bud.

EVERY FUCKING TIME

Try reddit then, Holla Forums types aren't allowed there.

ROTT is superior to all Wolf games. That is all.

80-90%?
.5%?
80-90%?
You dont need a huge percentage of criminals to turn army into violent murder rape gang. Even if you put 5% rapists and real criminals they will going to impose their will over 95%.

And how percentage of jews in 30 ruling class correlates with army composition in 40? Or they all quit their job in 10 years and joined military as dedicated rapists?

The reason to live is to amass more wealth and property, and to pass that property unto your children who you raised to do the same thing.

All of the Soviet barbarians were smelly dumb plebeian scum, they killed the trained and knowledgeable soldiers, tacticians and generals because they owned property, they had power in Tsarist Russia, they were successful. This is the Communist's practice when it comes to anything: kill anyone who is better than you and make sure everyone is equally as low as yourself. They're bitter, they're disgusting and uncouth, and more than anything else: they despise themselves. They know that they are losers, the worst of mankind, failures.

No wonder they lost

Don't you think the Jewish masters would impose their will on the average soldier?

keep trying newfag

The myth of Napoleon being tiny comes from a couple things. First, at the time the French and the English measured feet and inches differently, so Napoleon's height in French units translated to being shorted in English units. Secondly, he surrounded himself at almost all times with his elite guard, which were required to be tall and very fit, giving the impression he was short because he was compared to them. And of course his enemies pushed plenty of propaganda about him being a manlet.

IMO, 5'8" is the cutoff between average and short, unless you live in some Scandinavian country. The average height for males worldwide is like 5'5", it's just that whites tend to be tall but the rest of the world is pretty small.

Yeah, what the fuck. Discuss gameplay, you brainwashed plebs.

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If you recall, it's Holla Forums that has active recruiting campaigns on reddit, especially /r/socialism and /r/latestagecapitalism. The closest Holla Forums equivalent on reddit was /r/altright which got banned by admins, and then there's /r/the_donald who are well aware that Holla Forums despises them and even then they mostly only know about 4/pol/.

And that is why they won a war? Not only they were brainwashed into believing they are right they also knew they are wrong and despised themselves? What the fuck are you fucking talking about?

They put criminals in army (And I pointed out that it was enough to ruin military for century). They never cared about average solder. If you are fighting a war, you want to kill your enemy, not promote degeneracy or start fucking bank to jew people of their money.
Are you people retarded?

5'6-5'9 has too many badasses and good men to be dismissed as manlets, the only manlet that was a badass was Simo Hahya.

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user please, I really don't want to disgusts politics but blatantly stupid statements like that deserve to be pointed at an laughed at.

He fixed everything

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People confuse fascist views on morality with totalitarian views.

Mussolini was a fool.

So I can play vidya from pong to rapelay?

The point is you would not want to play rapelay.

Truly civilized discussion.
Reminder that the Wehrmacht was off their rocker on meth (pervitin) for most of the war and Hitler was most likely an addict on some sort of drug.

This thread is dead already. Having discussion about WW2 games on this site is impossible nowadays. We really need to ban all communists and Nazis.

It wasn't just the Nazis using hardcore stimulants in WW2, it was pretty common in all armies during the period. For example, look at the Finns and their speedballs.

Finally, a solution I can get behind

Than go fuck yourself.

The Leftist/Socialist/Communist or what have you is a poor sap who has never tasted what hard work, effort and struggle can provide. He wants everything given to him on a golden platter, he wants to sip the blood of the successful, the rich, those whose forebears worked tirelessly to establish a dynasty and a better future for their children. He is a lazy alcoholic who spends his days reading pointless literature and fantasizing about some apocalyptic event where he can rape, kill, and devour the flesh of the innocent whom his favourite author's label "bourgeoisie". He wants to stand up the guillotine and murder the just king, he wants to dash rocks against the Babylonian children, he wants to put his knife into the flesh of his boss who provides him wages and benefits.

Pretty much every tank ace was a manlet.

Post-war too, half of the blue on blue incidents that show up in the news tend to be caused by soldiers who haven't slept in days, running solely on cocktails of drugs.

>implying jerking off to raplelay is fun
your equivocation is purely incredulous nonsense.

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Discussing anything is pretty difficult anymore. Someone always has to bring up some shitty political topic and completely kill the thread because no one can resist responding.

I didn't like New Order.

Every gun sounds the same, from the lugerlikes to assault rifles, the shotgun is alright and the laser gun is garbage. Really disappointing roster but I didn't really get that far so maybe I'm wrong.
The game had health pickups and encourages you to go run and gun but you have pretty low ttk and move slow as hell. The thing that really made me not like the game are the Ubersoldat counterparts in this. In RTCW they were fucking beasts but used miniguns which had rev time before they could fire, so even then you could avoid them. In New Order they use machine guns that they fire when they whenever they feel like, which is a bitch when there's three of them and you have 20 health left.
I just thought it was a confusing cluster of design decisions. It's a modern shooter with bits from older ones and they don't really mesh that well. At least in my opinion. I'd have finished it but I got too fucking bored with the story.

Also, BJ looks like a big fucking baby when viewed from any angle other than dead on like in the op pic.

I like Return to Castle Wolfenstein the best.

Are you retarded? 2009 is the only good one

Finns were allied with Nazi Germany and from what I know and found on the internet, the Soviets didn't use and stimulants for infantry (or, at least, it wasn't issued by leadership like pervitin). Just about every pilot used performance enhancing drugs, and still do IIRC.

It's then, not than. You use than when you compare something, for example: I like X better than Y.

Pretty much. It's expected though, this site gained all of it's popularity from what is essentially a political topic (GG) in the first place, and the election season brought in a lot of half/pol/tards to 8/pol/.

that's because leftist have made it impossible to have civil discussion about politics. This game is impossible to have a discussion without politics because the Kikes that made the game made sure to shoe horn politics into the game. Leftist and moderates don't have any moral high ground when they poke a bear and the bear retaliates.

Is the new one coming out? I completely ignored the E3 streams.

Nah either way.

You're no better, autist.

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In the middle of the war.
I guess the boss will be commissar?
Because peasant life is EASY. And everyone have enough food for free and no one is starving to death. And in the middle of war solders who never faced struggle.
Makes total fucking sense.

Be serious now. So many games these days have overt political messages and agendas. Like he said, if anyone who disagrees with those politics comments on it, people whine about them forcing politics into vidya but that's bullshit because the politics were already there.

I haven't seen a single Holla Forums user get upset about killing Nazis in Wolfenstein, just a lot of anons annoyed about the obvious forced diversity.

What I dislike about RTCW is it feels somehow floaty in every gameplay element. Enemies have no damage response, your movement is slippery, guns have questionable accuracy, etc.

This october.

It starts out pretty shit but there are a bunch of optional upgrades for it throughout the game and becomes fun to use towards the endgame. The generator upgrade specifically makes it usable because it makes it recharge on its own.

Stop that.

You don't have to be from Holla Forums to recognize, and disapprove of, the agenda being blatantly pushed.

So do you ITT.

Can't we ignore them for once for god's sake? Wolfenstein has always been about killing Nazis. The first games were created by a Jew named Silas Warner. Let's put all of that aside for a while now, don't be autistic for once.

lol

Respond to who? They're not here, take your meds.

There was literally one black guy in the entire game

I think I had a stroke.

RTCW is kind of like New Order of it's time I guess, in that it tried to do realism with current common FPS playstyle. The guns have 'realistic' recoil, but you movie at quake-ish speeds. I had no problem with enemy damage feedback though

I disliked how fast the ammo depletes coupled with not that amazing of a damage output. Are there any cool guns like the tesla cannon or something?

That's easy to say when you agree with them, or just have no strong feelings on the matter. If you were a libertarian, would you be okay with games pushing hardcore authoritarian agendas? If you were a technosupremacist, would you be okay with games pushing hardcore Luddite agendas? And I don't mean just as interesting settings, but as actually encouraging that worldview. And not just a few games, but almost all mainstream games.

In the new one, the strong black womyn is obviously a diversity hire.

Expanding crosshair isn't very realistic.

Really? It's bad, try playing Medal of Honor and compare it.

Go fuck yourself you concern trolling unsatisfied faggot. I don't like board wars. I am the first to tell a false flagging asshole pretending to be Holla Forums to fuck off. But if you honestly think nobody is allowed to talk about the politics in games that deliberately push a political agenda then you are smoking crack.

I'm not a political identity faggot, my deeds matter more than other people's.

So you just want to shit up the discussion even further.

What does that even mean?

Na, not really. I can't say this game holds a candle to Return to Castle Wolfenstein. Once you hit the first nazi lab in that game it gets bonkers. Honestly, the biggest detriment to TNO is it takes itself way too seriously. It puts you in some cool environments but never let's you really let lose.

We're not talking about the new one. People are complaining about The New Order

That means here and now > past and future.

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You're gonna have to elaborate a bit more, user.

I don't doubt that there's progressive idiots working on the game, but you're reasoning is fucking retarded.

Look at the lines, too. I'm not a big Trump fan myself but these fucks inserting their political views into vidya have grown far too bold and need to be cut down to size.

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are you honestly really that triggered about the true regarding WW2?

It's the only reason this site ever got popular, though.

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Sage as non bumping faggot.

Why not both? They go hand in hand, really.

lol

>>>/reddit/

Dumbass, he's discussing something off topic. Sage is a reply that doesn't bump, for use if you don't have anything to add to the topic. And what the fuck does 5 stormfag propaganda pictures have to do with anything? Nazis are the political flat earthers.

nice logic :^)

The game isn't about deep aspects of fascist political theory, it's about killing fucking Nazis, no one likes Nazis but stormfags.

No, I don't think so. I forgot to mention than everyone first and foremost must find the reason for their existence on earth, and politics have nothing to do with it from a non superficial standpoint. What happens to you after your inevitable death, either something or nothing, is not affected by politics.

You don't have to be a Nazi to see there's some sketchy shit about the official Holocaust story. Remember that Soviet Russia was largely controlled by Jews, and they had a bone to pick with Nazi Germany.

I'd bet a significant sum of money that if you lived in Germany pre-Nazi and post-Nazi, you'd be a big fan of them.

I get your point, but if your goal is to prioritize taking care of your immediate surroundings, your family, your friends, then national politics play a huge role in that regard.

I wouldn't. I'm Eastern European and they hated people like me. Eastern Europe throughout history just can't be left alone and independent, but that day had finally arrived on 1991, and thank the Lord almighty for it.

Consider those as side activities that are fruits of your inner world. But still, politics are so outward and you have no control over it that you end up stranding your own responsibilities. What you do to other people matters more to you than what other people does.

user that is a bold face lie an you know it.

Oh please you and I both know that game is more then just about killing """"nazis""". Its pushing multiculturalism and Marxism and blatantly propaganda against anyone with a reactionary or Conservative point of view. Just another way to cry "Remember the Holohoax"
there is that word again… You know nobody ever actually called themselves nazi's. It was a term used by Jewish Bolsheviks as a parody because it sounds similar to Naczi which is short for Ignatz and essentially means Ignatius.

ignoramus

I don't hate Wolfenstein as a Holla Forumsack.I really liked The New Order. What I dislike is the complete lack of Americana in the trailer and the fact that BJ is allying himself with Communists. Instead of going full 1776, it's going full Ivan.

user, it's the most generic political campaign billboard anyone could make. If they were actually trying to make an anology to Trump they'd use a variation of one of his slogans/mannerisms, not "Osborn for Mayor".

This is really gross. Where can I go to talk about video games where faggots and their political agendas aren't whining?

NEOgaf

4chan

Cuckchan or neoFAG would be perfect for you, queer.

pic related newfag. In case you forgot.

I think New Order and Old Blood were incredibly solid games, not only mechanically but they also felt like they were the first linear FPS that actually cared about making a good single player campaign in a very long time.

I don't even think I can remember the last FPS that got me interested in its singleplayer before the new Wolfenstein games.

the new order was great. i loved all of the characters & it had some truly surprising moments. AND! the nazis were given a couple of actually good reasons to hate the jews. the jews were keeping only fro themselves that world changing technology that would help everybody, and then the jews developed and indiscriminately released that biological weapon which makes buildings collapse on people.

It is pretty funny that in trying to make a statement about how bad nazis are in a series that is known exclusively for being really violent against them they mistakenly gave them legitimate reasons to do what they do.

Then they go above and beyond by showing that they're actually colonising mars in the 60s putting them hundred of years ahead our timeline.
I doubt it was done on purpose but the idea that a bunch of writers got together and fucked it up so badly is very funny to me.

Mark actually did this? Holy fuck that legend

More like

Just like that Hydra guy in the comics, they keep trying to write their political opposition as nonsensical evil, but every time they make sense and sound like good guys fighting against an evil world.

what is this place? where is it?
It seems those pics of some people memeing Holla Forums in public are in the same place

exactly, man. i didn't watch any of the previews for it, so i was blown away when the world the nazis created was way better, not way worse than what i expected. i thought it was gonna be like "schindler's list" but it turned out to be like an affirmation of "the eternal jew"

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rly niguh

it is (or was, until we destroyed it) shia lebeouf's "he will not divide us" project where he got these sjws together and had them yell into a camera about hating trump

You know what would be really cool? If halfway through the campaign you could choose your sides. You're sent on a mission to assassinate the leader of the Nazis or something like that, and you fight your way through the level. You get to the end room where the leader is, and he goes on some big villainous rant, telling you why the New Order is actually good and that you should either join them or die. At that point, the game gives you a choice to actually either join them or die. If you join them, you're immediately accepted into their ranks and set loose on your previous allies, that you had just spent half the game fighting for and helping. Or, you could say no, and continue in the current commission set that you had already been doing, kill the leader, and move on. That way half way through the game, you could have a branching campaign, were you actually choose your side and continue to fight for the ones you started with, or choose a new side and fight against them.

Notice the KKK guys, like they're still an actual fucking threat. Same shit they pulled in Mafia 3 too.

Nigger this is a different timeline
Go back to your nigger board where you don't discuss vidya

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It's the same shit you nigger lover

Oy vey don't you dare destroy our propaganda

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This is the whole point of the game, this isn't the real world dipshit.

It was the "He Will Not Divide Us" HWNDU events. It was cancer. Do not speak of it further, ask 4/pol/ if you're interested.

But that would require twice the work and we only get the money once !
Are you crazy goy !

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I said notice the KKK guys.

Think outside of your shitlib head and think maybe it's more than a coincidence.

i actually considered this when i was playing through the new order. it would have been awesome. the only problem there would be that BJ is the franchise character & people would be pissed if he suddenly started gassing jews

Why are you faggots so easy? I need to find a way to bait "Holla Forums" into "harassing" me and use that to get donations.

I made the comparison to nazis because they're also in the game, while in the real world they are not.

That is because, and now say it with me, this is fiction, it is not real.

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i don't understand the tussle you guys are in, but it sure is nice seeing the klan represented in video games

Could've given them better robes.
Nazis get all the cool tech upgrades and these fags are just in robes like it's 1920

cmon

They're not, really. The modern KKK is a joke, they even accept nonwhites as members.

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maybe there will be a surprise and they will have advanced lynching technology under their robes. these games kinda like to surprise like that. what if you get to go undercover, and can actually play as a member of the klan?

That'd be fucking badass.

Fat neets that go on vietnamese anime forums are not nazis, no matter how many times you try to convince yourself

Low energy bait user. Try not projecting as much.

Just liberated Wolfenstein: The New Order

MachineGames certainly tried with this game, and there are many things about this game which are excellent, but there are also many things which drag this game down more than necessary. Some guys called this a retro shooter because you don't have regenerating health and because you can dool-wield, but TNO is a FPS more in the style of 1999-2006 shooters such as FEAR, HL2, Doom 3, and so on. Yet it still throws some more modern things in the mix.

A premise where the Nazis won WW2, have conquered the entire Earth, erected concrete monstrosities, set foot on the Moon, nuked America first, and crushed all forms of resistance, is fairly interesting. The art guys must've been really proud of their work, as the game gladly shows you all kinds of concept art and designs as you play through the game by shoving an concept art unlocked reminder in your face every five minutes or so. But their pride is not unjustified, the retro-futuristic art design with a tinge of Nazi Germany (Aharoni fucking everywhere) is really what sets apart TNO from other games visually. The team really worked hard on envisioning such a future and all the technological advancements which would come with it. What also sets apart TNO from other games is MEGATEXTURES, which ensures you will never see the same texture twice. Every environment is visually distinct from another as each environment is packed to the brim with unique details (perhaps too much), though a downside to Megatextures is that they only look good from a distance. Shove your face in the wall and everything will look like a PS2 game.

The music for TNO is alright. It is composed by Mick Gordon, who also composed D44M's OST, which I didn't think was alright, and another famous heavy metal guy called Fredrik Thordendal. Right from the main menu a theme plays where you can tell straight away SHIT IS FUCKED, through masterful use of distorted guitars and choirs which excellently set the feel of the game. The more noisy songs can be attributed to Mick Gordon, that's really his trademark style by now. Just like D44M, I like his songs when I hear less dubsteppish sounds and more rocking guitars. I bet the more heavy metal-ish songs can be attributed to Fredrik. The most stand-out track has to be the theme when you raid Deathheads' HQ in the last level, just listen to that shit. Unfortunately the sound options for this game only have a Master Volume rather than separate volume sliders for sound, music, and so on. Overall, there's some really good shit in here and some more average stuff.

I wouldn't say that TNO is a mix of retro and new, rather less-retro and new. There's really three ways you can play this game, like a stealth game, a popamole cover shooter, and John Rambo wielding two guns at a time. However, you can never stick to one playstyle for the entire game due to the way the game is set up. There are thankfully no forced stealth sections, as stabbing everyone in the face works just as well in levels where nobody has guns. There are forced combat sections, however, but that's not really that bad with this kind of game. Playing stealthily lets you take down less enemies with less hassle as a silenced pistol absolutely trivializes stealth (though the game does frequently take away your weapons), and doing so is really the easy way through. Playing the game like your standard cover shooter lets you hide behind rocks and shoot enemies safely, as most nazis go down fairly easily, but it's not that fun. You can dual-wield at any time, which gives you increased firepower at closer ranges, but exposes you to danger greatly as almost all enemies are hitscan and will shred your ass if you aren't behind cover, so dual-wielding is only recommended to do in close ranges. Of course, since most enemies aren't really that aggressive and will stick behind cover too, dual-wielding is at its best when the levels allow you to flank the enemy through many tight passageways, like in FEAR. Unfortunately, this is not always the case, and as a result the best moments of TNO are few and far between.

The story goes as follows: nazis stole some Jew technology, nazis won, you got knocked into a coma for 17 years, wake up as everything's changed, and then kill nazis, find the resistance, kill nazis, kill nazis, kill nazis and kill na
Along your path you will find many characters, especially the villains get a good amount of screen time. I did like the Tarantino-esque approach to the villains where you get introduced to them in one way or another before fighting them, and they end up being more memorable than most generic Nazi lieutenants. Deathshead's smile has to be one of the most genuine smiles I've seen in any videogame.

Yeah I mean it's clearly not worked on you.
It didn't hit deep, that's why you responded.

Allied characters are also written in ways which make them stand out from others. Not great, but good enough.
B.J. is pretty much what you'd expect from a Nazi-killing badass who's been stuck in a crazy house for 17 years. All he cares about is killing all the nazis and Deathshead in particular, which tends to have adverse effects on one's psyche. Sometimes he tells stories of his childhood to himself which are somewhat related to what's happening on screen, and everyone comments on him being a rather crazy fuck. When people in-game told me to flat-out KILL THE NAZIS!, I couldn't help but smile with glee. And that's why I think all the effort placed in the story feels wasted. There's alot of supplementary story tidbits in the form of letters, concept art, diaries, and all kinds of shit. Not even Marathon throws that much at you to read at once. A lot of effort is placed into worldbuilding, but the gameplay treats all of that as just a background setpiece for you to kill Nazis in. In the end, it's really just about killing a lot of Nazis, and all those personal letters pale in comparison. If TNO were a different kind of game where you actually got the time to talk to the people, see the effects of a Nazi empire on the people, basically a game where all that worldbuilding can be properly explored other than combat, we'd also have a setting that's interesting to explore and find out more about it. There just isn't much that makes you care about the deeper parts of the world because you are a badass who must kill all the nazis.

What's also kind of a bother is the stop-start-stop-start method of storytelling TNO, as after every two-three fights or so you end up having to deal with more STORY. And the STORY present isn't all that engaging as it mostly involves people talking, some cutscene, or whatever action you are performing which you have no control over. Compare this to the horror sequences of FEAR which served as an intermission for the combat, which weren't pantsshittingly scary, but they were subtle and freaky enough to keep the player on his toes and engaged. Both do the same thing by not having me kill things, but one of them keeps my attention.

Most enemies you face are nazis with light or medium armor. They die fast, but on Über difficulty you'll be torn to shreds if they flank you. There's Kampfhunden which are armored dogs who lock you in a ridiculous QTE where you repeatedly stab each other in the shoulder until one of you gives up (same goes for melee nazis), and is inevitably how most melee encounters end up as most melee enemies inevitably pull you into doing so. You can block, but it is pointless as it only reduces damages rather than nullifying it entirely. Then there's Commanders, who you can take out stealthily, or just make some noise so they can call in reinforcements. They're a neat way of controlling how much opposition you want to face (if you want to face any enemy that is). They tend to hide and stay in the back, which is a nice touch.
Each FPS also needs heavy enemies, which in TNO comes in the shape of Übersoldaten and heavy armored shotgun guys, and on Über diffculty those guys are SHIIIIIIIIIT. Loads of HP + highly-damaging hitscan = FUCK YOU. Initially I thought TNO was easy despite me playing it on the second hardest difficulty (Über), that is until those guys came along. Even if you are blasting two auto-shotguns in their face, they will still wreck your shit because they do not know the meaning of hitstun. These fuckers are more dangerous in open areas where you have barely anywhere to cower behind. Sometimes the game straight up gives you a heavy machine gun to just deal with the problem like some kind of band-aid, but most of the time fighting them is not fun. You should have been able to kill them quicker with a rocket launcher or the Laserkraftwerk, but you only get them way later in the game. Had the heavier enemies been projectile-based, this wouldn't have been as much of an issue. Later on there's rocket-launching heavy guys who are precisely less of a bother because they fire PROJECTILES.

Your weapon arsenal consists of pistols which you'll mostly use for stealth, a knife whose usefulness pales in comparison to a silenced pistol, two assault rifles which you'll use for pretty much everything, a sniper marksman rifle which you'll never find any ammo for, two auto-shotguns which are AWESOME if there's any non-heavy enemies not hiding in range, a Laserkraftwerk which is upgraded over the course of the game from a laser cutting tool to a harbinger of death which requires to be recharged after every shot, there's detachable machine gun emplacements, and later on the Marksman gets a laser attachment whereas the Assault Rifle gets a rocket launcher attachment. The shotgun also gets bouncing pellet ammo which ricochets around walls, but I didn't find it to be that useful. The grenades in TNO rarely kill anything and work better as a stun, but at the same time their range tends to feel too small in order to feel useful. The weapon balance is -ok-, there's reason enough to change weapons time to time, but still feels rough around the edges considering how efficient most guns already are by themselves at killing nazis. The universality of the assault rifles (and dual assault rifles) makes other weapons feel like their situational uses are not as useful when (dual) ARs can do the job well enough on their own.
But the gunplay is just HNNNNNNNNNGH. It feels great to fire your guns, it feels great so hit something with your guns, your guns look great, your guns sound great, unleashing your dual auto-shotguns on a pack of confused nazis is the greatest thing. Unfortunately your guns don't have much effect on the backgrounds, as MEGATEXTURES turned everything in the background in one giant background decoration with no individual moving parts.

Another thing that needs to be talked about is the items, of which there are shittons. It's unlikely you'll ever run out of ammo for the assault rifle, while using shotguns have to be used in moderation considering that shotgun ammo is relatively sparse. There's always enough health items so you'll be walking with 100 HP in and out of every enemy encounter, though the same can't always be said for armor. Most enemies do drop a helmet on death, which grant you +5 armor every time you pick one up, just don't fret over how that works. With the abundance of health items, someone must've come up with the idea to let the player overcharge their health, meaning you can sacrifice using medkits in the long term in favor of higher chances of survival in the short term by temporarily boosting your health, which is a neat idea. I think your boosted health drains a bit too quickly, but that's just my opinion.
However, the overcharging mechanic's potential is diminished by how you pick up any items in TNO, as you do not pick them up by walking over them like in any other FPS, but you have to look in the vicinity of the item and press E. Not only does this slow down whatever it is you're doing in order to patch yourself up or pick up some ammo, and is a massive pain in the ass, but having to mash E while on an overcharged killing spree doesn't exactly keep one in the zone.

Thankfully there's no limit on the weapons you can carry, your stamina is infinite, your health regenerates in segments (which begs the question why items which heal +4 aren't just +20 because of how the regeneration works), so tiny mistakes are forgiven and you at least have a little bit fight in you when your health regenerates to 20 HP (which is gone in a flash on Über, mind you). Additionally there's a sprint slide, though I never used it because it limits your ability to aim only forwards, and doesn't seem to reduce the chances of you getting hit. Save for a few platforming sections, it's quite useless really other than looking cool in front of your friends and promo footage.

As with most modern games, there must also be upgrades, which comes in the form of perks. However, rather than obtaining points as you play the game, unlocking these perks usually involves requirements which you must fulfill like killing a bunch of guys from cover, shooting a bunch of guys in the head, stabbing this many people from behind, overcharging your health over a 200, killing multiple guys with one grenade, and so on. These aren't required by any means, but they do make things easier. Initially I was constantly switching to the perk screen to see if there's something I could do to complete perk challenges, though that's just me being a completionist, and thankfully you won't have to worry about perks too much later on once you've completed most basic perks anyways. But I like that for once getting upgrades involves playing the game rather than obtaining arbitrary points.

Did you know that the supposed crematoria were in fact identical to bread ovens installed at Wehrmacht bases?
Another fun fact is that due to their construction it would have been literally impossible to sustain the temperatures required to burn human bodies.

Somewhere around the first act, you must make a decision which places you in one of two timelines. What this does is change some cutscenes, decide whether you get the lockpicking or hotwiring minigame, and decides whether you get maximum health or armor upgrades (hint: health upgrades are more useful). It does add a bit more replay value, though I ended up liking Fergus more because he's a pretty cool guy with an accent.

The level design is a mixed bag, really. Sometimes you get to choose your own approach when commanders appear, who you can kill stealthily, or have them set off an alert so more cannon fodder can appear for you to shoot. Sometimes you are in an enclosed space with a lot of winding hallways which let you flank the enemy in many ways FEAR-style which are by far the better levels. Sometimes you are funneled in an outdoor linear area where you can't move anywhere without being shot. Sometimes you are stripped of your weapons and have to temporarily stealth your way through before you get some weapons. Sometimes you are forced in a setpiece moment where you are piloting some kind of vehicle or some big beast chasing you. The levels with the commanders are the best, which is probably unintentional by design, as forced combat sections don't give you much space to move around, whereas you can use passages meant for stealth in order to flank the opponent. Thankfully the AI in TNO isn't psychic and will only focus at your last known position, otherwise flanking wouldn't even be possible at all.

One thing I think all games should keep in mind that you should be able to play offensively and defensively. Playing defensively means picking the safest options for your survival while not being able to use all mechanics in the game to your disposal, which in TNO's case is playing the game like your standard cover shooter. Playing offensively implies high risk and high reward, using all mechanics of the game to your advantage, and usually implies high-level play. Which in TNO's case is moving around efficiently, using the right weapons, using grenades as a distraction or a stun, and so on. In the olden days, a balance between offense and defense was achieved with fast player movement and projectile weapons, amongst other things. If you got hit, you didn't dodge right. If you missed, you didn't aim and predict right. In modern first-person shooters, being hit is a matter of staying out of cover for longer than a second because of how every FPS uses hitscan now (because it is realistiiiic) and turns most combat encounters into a game of whack-a-mole. Hitscan and regenerating health encourage defensive play rather than offensive, and as such the skill ceiling (in singleplayer modes) feels rather low. And that's where level layouts come into play.

I keep comparing this game to FEAR because FEAR got it right and TNO almost seems to realize that unlike most contemporaries. Flanking a bunch of nazis with double shotguns is more fun than sitting behind a wall only to pop some heads with your AR every now and then. Defense in FEAR relies on constantly changing positions and outwitting the opponent rather than dodging projectiles or hiding behind cover. Even more fun is when the enemy is capable of doing the same thing to you, which is the very reason why FEAR's AI is held in such high regard. When both parties are trying to outwit eachother, what can you expect behind that corner? Unfortunately TNO's AI's doesn't really come close to that, but in terms of level design it manages to nail that feeling every now and then. Modern hitscan-reliant shooters need to take a good look at FEAR and at what it did right, and expand on that. Perhaps I'm deepthroating FEAR right now, but if you can name me a hitscan-reliant FPS released after 2004 which makes the same use of level layout as FEAR did, I'm all ears. I can only think of the first half of FarCry 1 and Black. I don't know if I should count predator games like FarCry 3 and MGS V considering their open-world nature and relatively overpowered nature of the players.

Overall, Wolfenstein: The New Order is a game with great visuals, an ambitious story, and gameplay which is great every now and then. We were left on a cliffhanger, so maybe we might see more of TNO in the future. It's an ok game which might be a worthwhile purchase in a sale, depending on what you like most in videogames.

And after that, I also played Wolfenstein: The Old Blood

Needless to say, I liked TOB more than TNO. First off, level design is better all around, it has much more of those open commander levels I liked so much in TNO. Second, there's comparatively less story intermissions. After you escape from your jail cell, it's pretty much running and gunning your way through Castle Wolfenstein with a minor torture sequence to break things up until you get to the Bavarian village. Third, the bulletsponges are gone. Shotgun guys now reasonably die within half of a shotgun clip, and Übersoldaten can be taken down with stealth (considering the difficulty of taking an Übersoldat down, you'll be more likely to consider the stealth option). Fourth, the first half of the game you are running around half naked, which is pretty damn cool actually. Fifth, The Old Blood can be considered a reimagining of Return to Castle Wolfenstein, with the same amount of Wolfenstein-escaping and supernatural involved, and I kinda liked RtCW.

The weapons are also somewhat different. Your regular ARs have been replaced with older version whose magazines are smaller, your shotguns are semi-automatic, you obtain a bolt-action rifle for long distance sniping with plentiful ammo this time around, and you also get a flare gun which fires explosive projectiles, which are somehow more effective at blowing things up than a grenade. You do get the sniper and explosive weapon earlier in the game than TNO, so in my book the weapon arsenal of TOB feels better than the TNO arsenal as visually they are on an equal level.

TOB is a prequel to TNO, where you must Find The Files to Deathshead's Compound from a fat lady called Helga who has a penchant for the supernatural. It starts off with you and a fellow Brit infiltrating Castle Wolfenstein undercover, until scripted sequence happens and you get thrown into jail by Rudi, some big guy who likes dogs. What follows is obtaining The Pipe, which this game seems very keen on forcing as something essential to the game, yet is never seen in TNO (probably because the Laserkraftwerk had that role). You can use the pipe to takedown enemies, and there are two modes where you take the pipe apart so you can use the head and the sharp end for stabbing, or just stick them together in order to transform the pipe into a pipe and hit harder, which is probably what you'll be doing most of the time. The pipe is used to open things, and climb walls with a particularly unengaging QTE. It's also used for breaking weak walls.

After that follows a stealth section. While TNO didn't outright FORCE stealth on you, having to sneak up on Übersoldaten without any decent weapons doesn't leave you with much choice. You can take one out stealthily and assault the rest with their miniguns, but doing so tends to leave you exposed to minigun fire of other Übersoldaten. Taking down Übersoldaten involves powering down a power source by holding a lever for five second, as you finish them off with a takedown. Rinse and repeat. These stealth sections aren't really well designed as they could have been, you'd think that patrolling hulks of steel with their weakness in the middle of the route would prompt more interesting layouts, but alas. Then you find yourself some guns and break outta prison. What follows is a terrifying journey into the world of magic, mystery, and violence.

Just killing squads and squads of nazis in Castle Wolfenstein without any hassle feels good. You briefly get tortured by Rudi, but break out again and kill his dog, and after that you escape on the railcar to the snowy Bavarian village wearing nothing but pants and shoes. More shootouts ensue in the village and its underground mines, until you reach a bar where you must help fellow allies escape by fighting off Nazis. This ends in a boss battle against the aforementioned Rudi wearing a powersuit because he's fucking PISSED that you killed his favourite dog and openly laments about how great and happy that augmented half-dog half-killing machine was as it tore the flesh of many prisoners. In retrospect the boss battle wasn't that hard, but a man treating a trained killer as his best friend is pretty hilarious.

And so you escape with your allies in order to make your way to a tavern where Helga is residing. You don a waiter outfit, enter a tavern where a Nazi party is going on, get stabbed in the hand because of your terrible German, when suddenly zombies happen. Apparently everyone who dies gets turned in a flaming zombie now, also known as 'shamblers', because of the underground gas (oh the irony). Dealing with zombies is fairly easy, even in groups. Just dual-wield ARs and aim for the heads. Zombies hit really hard and can unpredictably start to charge towards you, so you can't exactly hold down the trigger buttons and let go. It's a decent break from shooting Nazis, sort of like popping Clot heads in Killing Floor, but there's no special zombies aside from the occasional Nazi zombie which is able to inaccurately fire a gun at you. Also worth noting is that there are zombies falling from the sky. There's even a sequence where BJ saws off the barrel off a coach shotgun because no zombie killing is complete without a sawed-off shotgun.

What's more interesting is how the zombies interact with Nazis during gunfights with you, as anyone who dies get turns into a zombie, so you can turn people into zombies and have them distract the Nazis, and then sneak up on the rest of the Nazi bastards. Unfortunately the game is near its end at that point, so there aren't that many levels which involve Nazi-zombie infighting. The game ends with some more tomb raiding and a final boss fight against a massive blind monster which responds to sound, which is rather easy. You kill the monster, grab the folder, and get ready to assault Deathshead's compound in the sequel…

While some might consider the campy B-movie story a bad thing compared to TNO's story, I preferred TOB's less intrusive story which accepted its own nature. Sure, there's not as many characters, dramatic storytelling, or as much shit to read, but it suits the journey of an American Nazi-killing lunatic in more ways than TNO did. The visuals are still amazing, with a beautifully detailed Castle Wolfenstein and the captured beauty of a snowy Bavarian village before and after everything went to shit. It has more of TNO's best with less of the fat, and that's why I prefer TOB over TNO.

It only hit deep because it's what I used to be and even after years of going to the gym, I still have memories of it and hate it.

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Nice posts user, but you seem to be mistaken. Holla Forums is a politics board, consider taking your content to Holla Forums.

I appreciate the honesty

You'd be shocked what you can get away with once you can bench more than your weight.
My phone wallpaper is just a doujin page and no one gives a shit.

No shit, it's really a different world once you become visibly muscular, where people can tell you're fit even in normal clothes. Men and women treat you a lot differently, and it can go to your head.

i am now gonna buy this game based on your review. thanks!

Am I the only one who thought the gunplay was mediocre?

Is 2009 that bad? Was that the one Ross made a video about? I don't think I ever played that one but yeah looked pretty bad

I'd rate Return to Castle higher I think though, I had most fun with that one

Return > Beyond > Castle > Old Blood > New Order > 3D >2009.
ET is God-tier and still played, not sure where to fit it though.

3D isn't much fun. It just doesn't play like Doom and it pretty lackluster.
Sure, technologically it was good, but the end result just wasn't much fun.

These are worth checking:

Macenstein - port of the Mac version of Wolf3D (quite different from the DOS original, especially the music)
wolfenstein3d.co.uk/adds_MNO.htm

Wolfram - fan remake of Wolf3D with modern graphics
moddb.com/games/wolfram

I smell viral marketeer. Begone, dataminer, no shekels for you.

Now there's a game I'd try to make it to a game night for. Is it still free?

It's been free since 2002, baby. If you do, use ETLegacy instead of the version on Splash Damage's site. ET Legacy has improvements over the original and just makes the game better to play on modern machinds. It can't play on Junkbuster servers, though. Not that it matters, it's shitty spyware and most anons would be glad. It's also Stallmanware so the FOSSfags will be happy.

the truly fun version of Wolfensteine 3d tbh. Playing with the original controls is ass.

afadoomer.com/wolf3d/default.php

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No, it's a stereotypical Austrian name.

Kek at the fags thinking they can come here promoting pozzed crap like Wolfenstein and not be bombarded with truth. We've made it our sole mission to combat lies and restore white pride, and rule in this world. Deal with it.

archive.fo/NQiAX

They dropped a nuke on his ass, whats left for BJ? better yet whats left of him?

Isn't that just your version of "respect my pronouns"?
Nazi is just shorthand for national socialist in the modern day, I don't give a shit who made the word, if it's derogatory for you and provokes a reaction from you faggots I'll use it even more.

Wolfenstein 2009 was the best.

no user but at least know that you are basically using the term Nigger and that "Nazi" is not a legitimate political philosophy. Do you want me to post Gore?

I never said that, but the way you act, going on a tirade about how it's the white males (read: Jews) oppressing your gender (read: political philosophy) is pretty autistic.
Nazi is shorthand for national socialist, we call Nazi Germany just that because of this, it was National Socialist German Workers Party led Germany. You just called your own political philosophy illegitimate.

Youre trying too hard, at first I thought Holla Forums ppl might be overdoing it but youve just proven them right.

Nazi is not "shorthand" for national Socialist.
Unless you want to say Nigger is short for black person.

Nazi was made up by a jew and used as a derogatory term for National Socialists.

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No, you mean (you).

get aids and die.

Can't wait for the mods where the Nazi is the protag.

SAVE US FROM THE GREEKS! HELP!

Are you this retarded.

Were Apple games even that good? I recall they were rather barebones and didn't hold up by modern standards. Wolf 2009 also wasn't that terrible, IIRC, it had a cool arsenal and satisfying gunplay. Wolf 3D also seems a little too high, considering it's worse than Doom in every single way.

I would. I like Red Faction even though it has clear socialist "workers revolution" undertones because the gameplay is fun. I hate commies and socialists for fucking up my country and causing untold amount of death and suffering across the globe, but it doesn't mean that I should dismiss every single thing with a hint of sympathy towards them.
You have to realize that suppressing every piece of media that represents an opinion that you disagree with kills the artistic expression. Look up socialist realism and how it pretty much destroyed russian literary and artistic tradition. It's not that bad by itself, but it becomes absolutely terrible when it's the only choice of entertainment you have.
Somewhat related, check out Lysenko and Deutsche Physik for even more retardation.

How do you determine if the game is pushing a particular agenda as opposed to just following the mainstream?

If BJ's interaction with J in TNO is any indication, there will be tension between him and the commie guerrillas. I guess this is another one of those "strange times, strange bedfellows" types of situations.

The best Wolfenstein was Enemy Territory Wolfenstein

Don't you have a TotalBiscuck video to watch?

Say it with me, lads: Holla Forums is always right.

Oh no you don't. I don't give a shit whose side you're on, this is a place where we can have discussions and arguments. You won't take that from here you little nigger, you're going the fuck back or I'm shoving internet toothpicks under your goddamned toenails.

Really, it's a bit arbitrary to hate a game for killing nazis when that was basically it's main selling point since the beginning. If one wants to criticize it for the gameplay that's fine, but as long as they're not specifically shoehorning current political agendas into games I'm fine with it. Poland?

Germans are only second to Sweden in cuckoldry, but their posters talk like they're still aryans in the third reich. They are afraid of giving themselves away of course, just like they live in real life.

Amerifats aren't too different, either. They have the nerve of accusing someone of hosting commies and niggers, when in truth they are the ones overrun who are spreading the infection.

Beth published wolfenstein
Wolfenstein 3

Oh boy:

The comments to me seem like a bunch of kikes and liberals (commies are liberals too) projecting.

Funny how the games always took place in fictional places with using occult and supernatural as the main themes, glad you skipped that part and went straight for
Not like the main premise of RtCW is to stop nazis from resurrecting Heinrich I (^:
Funyn how the 2nd game is America

Don't buy Old Blood it's horrible, get Return to Castle Wolfenstein, it's more or less the same story except it has more than THREE ENEMY TYPES. Sure it has annoying as fuck stealth sections but at least one of the enemy types isn'tt RUNNING ZOMBIE

Christ he's worked up. Why did he even bring confederates up?

It did have occult shit in the Old Blood, but unfortunately the main game was mostly just sci fi.

we need to ban faggots like you who complain about Holla Forums.

Wrong.

Also you can dig up the dairy and documents of Hitlers personal doctor and you'll see that Hitler was not addicted to any drug. Again you indulge yourself in jewish lies.

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I wonder if he thinks that about communists as well, who am i kidding (^: who unlike Germans actually went and destroyed everything, from monuments, through houses to cultures and people.

Of course not. People don't get told about what the commies did other wise the holocaust and "muh nazis ur evil" indoctrination doesn't work as well. Reminder that commies always use women and young men/kids to push their idiot ideology, that's why every college or high school has been taken over by jews and their marxists tools and these people sadly will add nothing once they will have to work in the system they live in, that's why the want to over throw it. Not because it might be broken, not because "capitalism so evil" it is simply because they are so brainwashed that they do not function in a system like we have. Nor will they in a communist system because those are never meant to work.

People like George Rockwell warned others about this in the 60's.

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Striving for ideological purity in creative fields is cancer.
Worse, Russia. Poland seems to pull itself together now, while Russia gets repeatedly fucked over by former communist party members.

Do you have brain damage?

You can't deny that nazis being the main antagonists is a large part of the appeal.

Well, there was no WWIII after Germany's subjugation, right? :^)

You realize Jews where responsible for starting both WW1, WW2, the French Revolution, the Soviet Revolution, Young Turk Revolution and creating Islam. You realize there would have been no Atom bomb if not for Kikes. So no Nagasaki or Hiroshima. No Communism, & no transatlantic slave trade. Oh and no cold war, right? :::::^^^^^^^^^^))))))))

That's it there's no cure to Holla Forums

Leave my cute anime girls, porn games, mongolian comics and mongolian shitposting forums alone and I'm fine with anything that works and won't murder me for being a slav.

Also, legalize loli you faggots

I've read that, it's disgusting beyond believe and serves is a good redpill about the jewish mindset too. WWII wasn't against the National Socialists or Adolf Hitler, it was simply a war against the Germans because the jew as you can read in a lot of newspapers or books before and during that time complained about the German being strong and smart people.

Also >inb4 ur a natzee
.t leftykike

I used to be commie/marxist-tier when I was a young kid and around 14 I understood that we need borders, that races and gender are different and not only influenced by culture. Then when I figured out I was lied about the Germans and told nothing about the commies it became my life mission to search for the ultimate truth in everything. I lost a lot of friends because of this but gained other instead.

As far as I know I do not. Ask people on leftypol instead. Liberals now a days are easily to compare with commies exactly as planned from the start. Both are tools but are made to hate themselves and each other to insure more chaos between their own people, be it race or communities. Ever asked your self why there are so many versions of liberals, commies, anarchists, marxists. stalinsts or lennist? If you didn;t think about it.

Also to be honest, why is Holla Forums being so annoyed with this game featuring Nazis as the villains? I mean fuck, it's a series that ALWAYS did that. Why do you guys expect anything different when the general consensus is still that the Nazis were evil. Take that to account and also the fact that it is illegal in most countries to portray Nazis as good.

I mean, I understand that you are tired of seeing your idols constantly being portrayed as evil but you are acting as if it is not the staple of storytelling by now.

Every thread with a videogame about Nazis I see, I also see you guys complaining about it. How haven't you yet gotten used to that?

It was like this for years and there are absolutely no signs of this changing, you do realize that, right?

No shit, Adolf Hitler started it.

And they're also responsible for you being a failure in life, right? :^)
Are you having an aneurysm?

Commies are by no means liberal. They believe in a heavily authoritarian state ruled by "workers" that should bring forth the communist utopia, which goes against almost all liberal beliefs. You might be confusing "liberal" and "demsoc", judging by your description of them.

I agree with this statement. Limiting artistic expression is the road of no fun allowed.

I wish for a day when I will be able to play a video game which allows me to play as an authoritarian Empire bringing order to a corrupt world and then after that watch a romanticized movie about a freedumbs loving rebels fighting an authoritarian tyrannical Empire finishing it off with playing a Japanese porn game. I want laws that limit the freedom of expression to completely disappear. I know that I'm already kind of able to do that, but not to the extent I wish for, I don't really see media which portrays authoritarian empires as good for example

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jews are the reason nazis exist?

It's not that are they villains or not it is the pandering to jews and liberals. A game like Red Orchestra 2 does not cater to anything, which is good. An old game like Wolfenstein 3D or Return to Castle Wolfenstein barely did, you just shoot nazi's and that is it. This game on the other hand forces constant bullshit into your throat from each corner.
So far I've seen liberals/commies screaming for blood because of this game than I've seen right wingers or nationalist doing it. If you read the comments you'll see bullshit like "time to kill trump supporters" etc. It shows how vile the lefties are.

And that is wrong. The jews in England started it and screamed for war before Hitler ever attacked Poland. Hitler asked the pollacks for months if the Germans in Poland could return to Germany but they kept refusing. The jews in England used Poland as an excuse or "prove" that the Germans where evil and dangerous.
Not only that during 1922 in Germany their was this red revolution going on started by jews and they killed around 2 million people. This didn't work any more when Hitler come into power. The war was already going on, people just didn't know it yet.

It funny how you can only react with insults to that other user.

Prove me wrong because with the other things you said you only proved me right.

That used to be like that years ago yes, times now are different. They are still called liberals because of the stigma that name "communist" caries. This will change as times goes on.

You also did not answer my other question.

The French revolution was a proto-commie revolution you fucking faggot. Those ugly, unwashed masses of retarded peasants, washerwomen, and profligates, they are the inspiration for the ideology of the wastrel Marx and his homophilic partner Engels.

I really fucking like this speech, I completely agree with it. Society needs more morality, but less moralizing. The best way of going around with it is trying to promote the good values, good art without banning the bad art.

That way we can make sure that freedom of speech and freedom of expression is upheld while also slowly turning society from the degenerate state it is in.

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Liberals still adhere to identity politics with no regard to actually reforming the economic situation. Actual socialists never advocated for welfare while liberals will support it and the capitalist system in place. Why do you think Holla Forums hates them so much? Their liberals are our cuckservatives.

Also, no matter what their reasons for invading Poland were, they went too fucking far in how they treated the general populace

The fact that they decided to limit our rights to education and generally treat us as second class citizens, while also allowing commies to do whatever they wanted with us i too much for me to have sympathy towards them.

Unless there is evidence proving otherwise and I've been just fed propaganda, which is also possible. If that is the case I would love to educate myself.

Wrong again. Welfare is a socialist thing, look it up.

It is simple. Leftypol wants to be special because they only care about the "me me me" image. It pisses them off because they think they are finally special with their ideology (all catered to "me me and me only), calling them out for being the same thus makes them angry. It makes them angry because they know it's true.
So to them it is nothing more about being special, yet again they are the exact thing.
Like I said before this used to be different but even liberals are so kiked up to the point the differences are almost gone.

Pic related.

I reacted with shitposts. The original reply about WWIII was clearly a joke, which the other user decided to take seriously.
I'm not sure what are you trying to convey here. Care to rephrase?
Because left wing encompasses a shitload of ideas and ideologies developed by intellectuals, propagandists and intelligence agencies with varying goals, and different people tend to gravitate towards different ideals those movements represent. Most of the time the difference is about the face of the enemy and which means of opposition are acceptable.

Sage for not vidya.

Truly a /comfy/ thread. Nothing like watching Holla Forums getting it's ass blasted away yet again. They always need to be reminded that Holla Forums is a NatSoc board no matter how many of them disagree.

You'll also see this with those leaked chatlogs from leftypol Discord.

As if anybody sane would want two Holla Forums instead of one.

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Jews pushing communism is the reason nazis came to power, that is actually correct.
It's pretty much the situation with SJWs and GG becoming a thing.

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While I disagree with them, I still can't make the correlation with them to liberals. Hell I probably wouldn't hate them as much if they focused their attention on helping local native workers instead of trying to accept all the rapefugees they can because "they're workers jus liek us :)"

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I agree. The basis of good is truth, and you can't discern truth without the free flow of ideas.

That's also a problem. They don't help their own or improve their own. After each "revolution" you'll notice that the commies will eat up the commies for not being communist enough.

Let's face it, even Obama was being as much of a dick as he could possibly could too and he still had to suck a bit of AIPAC's mutilated dick.

Goddamn, the point he makes about prestigious positions not raising the value of women really says it all. No man has ever cared if a woman has a good job. The lowliest broad can get with the most powerful man if he thinks she's cute. Her value is innate. She just has to preserve what she already is.

he didn't have to suck that much dick

trump is a joke

Yeah I agree, it is one of most powerful speeches if you ask me. If you love your women you will never put them in any danger for the sake of equality.

Top kek

Stick to REEEEing about wanting to impeach him. You're nothing more than our entertainment now that we've won.

kek why would they impeach a good goy

Why would they use the entire media against one?

I know you're just pretending, so while we're at it; you will never get Trump impeached.

impeach him? why would i want to do that?
hes fun as fuck as a president.

keep telling yourself that :^)
you won nothing, republicans controlled by the jews won