Why can't there be an aliens game that's actually good on its own without depending on the Ayy lmao design and Ayy Lmao...

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You know what's unmistakeably done over at reddit? Typing in english. You know what to do.

I fucking hate gearbox.

Rebellion made the same shit mechanic with AVP 2010. Marines should not be able to beat aliens in melee, that's just retarded.

AVP 1 and 2 did it right.

Theres something undeniably sexy about xenomorph on female

Humanity, fuck yeah!

Fuck your acid and your spikes, you're getting punched to death!

Fuck this shit.

At least give the xenos some pulse rifles as well if you are going to level the playing field in melee.

I think they should go exploring the Engineer/Creator territory in the games. The comic books and novels tend to be unrefined garbage but games allow more creative freedom than movies while not being completely at the whims of a single fuckwit with a keyboard or pen. Hell, AvP2 was a better story than the two movies put together.

I preferred it when the Space Jockey was a mystery. Some things are just better left to the imagination.

Prometheus was shit and Alien Covenant looks like it's gonna be shit as well.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Alien,_Predator_and_Alien_vs._Predator_games.

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It somewhat triggers me seeing xenomorphs with cocks, especially when the way they reproduce is incredibly fun and twisted.

When there is no queen they take humans and coat them with mutagen goo to turn them into a face hugger egg.

Gay.

I like the idea that drones can mold into queens. They also could have regular sex to impregnate the queen to have those eggs, or maybe it's like in that one lewd story some user did during the Isolation launch where the queen seduces a selected human male with pheromones and has sex with him.

I thought that was retconned?
or was never canon seeing as it was never shown in the movies

Also there is a criminally shortage of AvatarXAlien crossovers
Like seriously i want to see these fucking smurfs getting fucking raped

Ika is best alien
none can compare

I like the egg morphing thing mostly because it plays perfectly with the totally alien organism and the biological robot shit.

Well, maybe as canon of the jockeys or anything before any new movie is set?

Didn't know I wanted this until just now. That'd be a hell of a mash-up. Shit like this makes me wish copyrights expired after 25 years without exception.

The jockeys are canon in the comics, But I'm pretty sure the "turning people into eggs" stuff was only part of a deleted scene in the first movie
Kind of like how the aliens crab walking was also deleted?

also Aliens Covenant never happened An alien civilization was not wiped out over a few years by a psychopathic robot at least several millennia of tech advancement behind using their own outdated technology
God that shit is retarded

Didnt they recently extend copyrights by 25 more years?
Or was that only in Australia?
Seriously, i don't believe a copy right should last more than the average human lifetime, so why make it twice that?
Fucking kikes

Well prepare for more, Ridley Scott said he wanted to make 6 more movies after Covenant.

I'd play a Xenomorph stealth hunter rpg
You start out as a chestburster and you level up as you kill people. The humans go from trying to capture the wild critter before it hurts more people to pants shitting panic lockdown mode

Why does it have 4 arms if the navi dont?

If I were to guess, it's because many of the animal species you see on pandora are hexapedal. The na'vi probably have vestigal elements of those extra limbs hidden in their physiology, like how a whale has leg bones.

tfw

Because they're aliens user
And who knows, maybe navi aliens start off praetorian

This is why i liked the alien campaign for avp2
Its also why i liked metastasis and parasite for warcraft3

What is she doing to the alien?

Spoilers for Alien Covenant here just in case you haven't seen them.
8ch.net/tv/res/740548.html

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Seriously, OP?

OP already outed himself as a troll, see

I wouldn't mind if it was a machine who actually made xenomorphs but fucking not this shit what trash

I've always wondered why most representations of Ayy's have to often be hungry xenos desperate to bite your face off?
I think a situation where you are running from a Super Maternal Giantess who wants to steal you and shower you with affection would be far more entertaining.

that's because your manchild weeaboo who only watches moeshit

haha

There's a bunch of mods for Doom that are quite alright. Some more than others.

So was covenant more or less retarded than Prometheus?

Even more.
Prometheus destroyed the space jockey
Covenant finished destroying it and also destroyed the xenomorph

Fug

Should I take my dad to see this, he just likes spending time with me but I don't want to give that faggot any money I already took him to see Star Wars and Fury.

Same as me with my dad, the fact the Ridley didn't learn the lesson from Prometheus and still has people going to alien planets without any kind of proper protection was a huge red flag for me. Changes is that I enjoy it as a comedic movie.

Alien marketing must have been a nightmare since aren't all the movies R rated but they still made action figures and other collectibles for the younger audience

it can't be as bonkers as having the map-guy get lost and the biologist try to grab the thing that LOOKS A LOT LIKE A SNAKE which you wouldn't go grabbing back on earth

actually it was easy due to the fact that younger kids look up to older kids

alright that makes sense but wouldn't there be a concern of younger kids trying to watch the movies after seeing the merch?

That shit was a lot harder to do back then, what could they do? Get some older guy to rent it? Sneak into the cinema?

Yes. Sneaking into theaters is easy even today.

I remember seeing a few years ago that there's a document released 6 months before the first Alien movie came out mentioning how toys (based off it) would be sold to children.

you're right, i can't believe i forgot about getting ID'd for rentals since its been ages since that last happened

That was the worse part of the "revelation", it retcons the shit out of almost everything in the UE, not to mention giving the franchise a circular argument in the end.

>>>/reddit/

That reminds me. In the comment section in a porn picture using the face crabs, the users where pointing out that they'd probably penetrate just about any orifice, not just the face.

So, everything (Including the games, the comics, the books, AVP, Predator, the references found in other media) except for the Alien films themselves are all non-canon now?

they weren't cannon in the first place

Not exactly "canon or not canon" more like, making another Aliens origin on itself.

Alright

Oh, if you guys want more to see more autism than that, figure out how Ridley is going tie the new Blade Runner film to the new set of Alien films (There has been some speculation that they exist in the same universe, just like with Avatar, Firefly, Death Race, Buffy/Angel, and Total Recall).

First we thought the Jokeys (Engineers) made the Aliens, then turns out David made the Aliens after killing the Engineers, although I doubt that was their home planet, it looked more like a colony or a sub-species that worshiped them.

Meaning?

xenomorphs aren't niggers!

Did you have this story capped?

We could basically assume that drones can produce eggs by morphing but at a very slower rate than a queen's ability to just lay them, I handwave it as an ability from the original batch from LV426.

Why buy from an exhausted franchise? You all know any game made from this shit is going to have Hollywood producers breathing down the neck of the developers. The better question is what are some good games that have similar elements of Aliens.

You mean, aside from the obvious ones?
There was also ''Dark Seed' for fans of Giger's art.

They should've expanded Alien universe, something what they wanted to do with Colonial Marines before Bitchford took SEGA's money and fucked the game up. It's not that there is no other way to make good Alien game, this user put it right, suits and shit devs work with big names because they expect to sell their garbage on the name alone, probably why games based on movies are shit now. That's why we have NuDoom, NuPrey, FF15, etc or reboots of old established games, movies, cartoons which has nothing in common with original media except the name alone.
I see where are you coming from, but unlike with movies, there is a lot of more potential to make good Alien game without going Prometheus or inventing new monster to replace xenos. There is still a big room for a lot of great Alien games and it can be filled. The problem is we don't have someone who can do the job.

What examples of real aliens do we have?

octopus

but Dark Seed is shit

The Engineers and new xenomorphs ain't bad designs in itself and the new movies are fitting for the franchise in tone and thematics, but they just need more sensible writing to tie them together.

No matter how lackluster Prometheus and Covenant are, they are still better than most of the old expanded universe or Blomkamp's Alien 5 was gonna be.

Great thing about pastebin is that it seems to keep the writings up for ages.

pastebin.com/UKsjF4Fu

It just seems so counter-intuitive. I can't even begin to think of a way a total biological makeover from an adult being to an egg could work on biological level. However, looking at what happened with Shaw and the trilobite, I could totally buy into a xenomorph raping a female human and causing the pre-existing egg cells into forming some sort of proto-egg inside the womb or a hugger in itself. This would explain explain a bit in good manner why the one Alien in 1 decided to toy with Lambert and quench my thirst for depraved sexual horror stories

Why is it that comics easily out compete anything that comes out on cinema today?
provided they aren't the recent SJW garbage they've been releasing like female thor

can they just die?

I think the way that drone was making the egg is just turning the victim's body into a shell so it would be able to inject the seed later somehow.

Is Colonial Marines still unplayable garbage?

kys

Am I the only one that is tired of Xenomorphs?
I don't mind a game set in the same universe as the two, or three first films, but I think the xenomorph has been done to death, and there ought to be other Eldritch horrors to be found. A proper prequel to Alien could be interesting if done in the Amnesia: The Dark Descent style

What they should avoid at all cost is considering Ridley's fanfiction Prometheus/Alien: Covenant to be canon.
O'Bannon and Giger are spinning in their graves ;_;

>Den of Geek: Where would you like to see the next Alien film head? Perhaps back to the more high-budget universe that you—

>Dan O’Bannon: I’d like to see it stop. A horror movie’s a fragile thing, and once you’ve gotten past the original, it isn’t scary anymore. So you do a bunch of sequels to a horror movie, all they do is drain any remaining impact out of the original. All of the sequels to for instance Invasion Of The Bodysnatchers, same thing; they over-expose the ideas, and when you look at the original, it’s not as effective as it would have been if you had just left it alone.

>Den of Geek: So as far as you’re concerned the Alien franchise is pretty much played out now?

>Dan O’Bannon: It was played out after the first one, as far as I’m concerned. Cameron, in the first one, did about the only thing you could do, which was that he changed to a different genre, from a horror movie to an action film. But once he had done that, there really was nothing left to do. And they just keep squeezing the thing till it’s an empty bag. But as long as it keeps bringing in money to them, they’ll keep doing it.
– The Den of Geek interview: Dan O’Bannon | Den of Geek: archive.is/umPp

Its not that Xenomorphs are getting stale user, but rather that people don't know how to use them anymore
The comics do a much better job, Like that mutant chestburster comic that spreads a disease that makes people go insane and explode
God i really want to read that one, anyone got links to torrents?

I've got you something even better(?) - the original 'graphic novel' adaption on the first Alien film: my.mixtape.moe/symmhl.cbz

Engineers are just doomed to shit movies at this point.

How do tens of millions of dollars go into making this asinine shit? Surely someone at some point in the huge mechanical process said "HEY, THIS IS FUCKING STUPID. THIS BLOWS THE CREDIBILITY OF THIS MOVIE. PEOPLE CANNOT SUSPEND THEIR DISBELIEF FOR THIS STUPID SHIT."

They must be obnoxiously retarded on purpose. That's the only explanation I can think of for it. They hold the audience in total contempt.

Oh, hey… does that have the original text before Hicks and Newt got renamed Dick and Moot because Alien 3?

Because the idea is to invoke horror.

Something alien is unknown. A faster, stronger predator is a primal fear. A predator using an exotic way to kill you that bypasses your defense is primal fear. A predator that renders your weapons ineffective is a primal fear. A predator that acts unlike an animal and is known to plan ahead is a primal fear. Humans in general are scared (and aroused in a lot of cases) by fear, so as we become the greatest predator on earth, we craft bigger predators who can outmatch us because we have a need to feel it, because feeling it means we wish to surpass it, and surpassing it means we become the top of the food chain.

And then, we create porn of it because we find skilled hunters like that really sexy because at our core, it's at the core of our race that hunters who take down challenging, dangerous predators are respected greatly and lusted after, by all sexes.

Since the Aliens aren't real, the removes the fear factor and makes people focus on the sexual attraction factor. there'd be a lot of fucking if they were real and didn't have acidic bodily fluids.

To be honest the alien only was scary when you couldn't see it. The moment I found out the "perfect predator" is a lizard with cucumber head I couldn't take it seriously anymore.

And here I thought I was the only one who saw the larger promise of the universe instead of just it's popular predator. I mean really after Aliens they'd explored the Xeno enough. Shame modern Sci-Fi screenplay writers aren't working with the same freedom of years past. Prometheus was an attempt to explore beyond the Xenos, but because modern screenplay writers have no imagination it just became a retread of the same territory but with different designs.

I guess that explains why monster girls are so sexy.

Completely different reason. They're sexy because it's an ideal female with funny animal parts.

If they had made a proper sequel to the three Alien films, either as a game or as another feature film, it should not try to connect the Xenomorphs or the Space Jockeys to Earth and humanity. It cheapens the mystery from the films, and it makes the universe seem tiny and human-centric. Going to the homeworld of the Space Jockeys or the Xenomoprhs would also ruin the mystery.

I would’ve liked to see other instalments – beyond the Alien trilogy – to go for an even more Lovecraftian feel, where shit is way more fucked up and horrible than we could ever fear, and that we are totally insignificant in the universe. The Space Jockeys never had anything to do with humans, and the Xenomorphs were only one of the horrors that could be encountered – Alien meets The Thing anyone?

Any time..

I agree.

Just listen to the Alien theme, it sounds so distant and far away from home.

Masterpieces

Mixed bag

Steaming piles of shit

God-tier
Good
Steaming piles of shit

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At least the new movies gave us David.

Here we go.

Alien > Alien 3 = Aliens > Covenant (expected) > Isolation > Prometheus > Resurrection

do you have brain damage?

Alien: Resurrection is schlock - a silly, guilty pleasure, but schlock, and certainly not above Aliens or Aliens 3.

In fact, I enjoyed Paul W. S. Anderson's AVP more than Alien: Resurrection.

The new "strong main character chick" is trying so hard to be Ripley v2.0, pure cringe.

The only good thing about the 2 recent flicks is the android David. Fassbender's acting is great.

youtube.com/watch?v=qh_o19X5D2g

non-cucked link

Ugh… These lists are fucking tragic.

Masterpieces

Decent

Decent but I'm obligated to hate it since they fucked Giger

Watchable Schlock

This easily could have been a better movie if the characters weren't fucking retarded

WE DON'T KNOW HOW TO MAKE MOVIES SO LETS JUST RIP OFF ALL THE COOL SCENES FROM THE OLDER MOVIES!

Waste of dubs

This list is good, is bad that I enjoyed Alien 3 more than Aliens? I don't know, I just felt that Cameron did another of his typical action movies except tha this time was in the Alien universe.

Am I the only one who really liked Prometheus?
granted

and holy fuck covenant? is that supposed to be its sequel? can anyone tell how gud it is?

Where would you fit Predator and Predator 2?

Yes you are the only one. But I am just a (1) so you don't have to listen to me.

I consider
core tier.

Must-watch before playing the AVP games.

It's not good, it's decent. It's bloody as hell and most of the characters are played well enough. There's still some idiocy like in Prometheus (one of the security dudes literally sticks his face into one of the fungus clusters) but not anywhere near as much.

And I think the movie thought they were surprising us with how evil David turned out to be. But if you like David you might appreciate the movie more than I did, but the movie has this odd habit of not showing us the cool bits.

David takes out Walter off screen so they can NOT SURPRISE US that it's David impersonating him when he gets back to the ship.

Several neomorphs are shown approaching a cloud made up of the bioweapon that David unleashed on the Engineers and… Nothing. We have no idea what that was and it's never seen again.

It's worth a watch. Not worth the hype.

I'm not ready for this… I need to get to class…. halp

Predator is a masterpiece, Predator 2 would probably get a slot between masterpiece and decent (good?).

Predators would just be decent.

Back when Aliens first came out, nearly all the people that saw the first, didn't care for the second. Take that for what you will.

So, to some people, Alien has been a dying franchise since '86.

I liked aspects of it, but it's totally botched movie in many aspects.

You could make the Engineers cool with some rewriters and clarifications. I think they are kinda doing it by referring to separate Creators now standing above the Engineers, which apparently were just tools created by them.

The scene where the pilots sacrifice themselves by FTL-shooting the juggernaut down is actually pretty epic. The music helps and it plays into the themes of ruthless selfishness vs. orderly greater good that we see throughout the series.

And as stated before, David, who is the most likeable character in the movie despite being a treacherous sociopathic machine. Mostly because he's not acting like a retard or a bitch all the time, he actually explores and does stuff, and is kinda the underdog protagonist anyways.

I still have nightmares where I have to fend off those things while they chase me and mutilate everyone on their path.
Most of the time it's my neighbourhood with my family in it.

you're still talking about prometheus right?
two things to notice:

its like most people didn't even notice this, but its based purely on greek mythology,
sort of forgot a bit of the exact names, but Zeus had a bunch of semigod kids, one of them made humans to their image (prometheus) other semigods hated them though and tried to exterminate them (making the xenomorphs)
HELLO, its like you don't even watch aliens from the past

besides the initial setup for the mission, they go every same step, from waking up from hyper sleeping, getting close to the planet and exploring the alien vessel with amaze, to finally everything turning up to shit and only Rippley surviving it
some of the scenes are even obviously the same, its was a brilliant way for Ridley Scott to sort of make the same Alien movie, but different and on modern standards

alright so I ask forgiveness for my lack of nerdiness on the greek mythology subject, had to research a bit:
hollywood.com/movies/prometheus-theories-greek-mythology-offers-answers-spoilers-57235863/

so it turns out that Titans were the semi god beings, children of Zeus, one Titan shaped mankind out of clay (the engineer shredding its dna on mud)
but Zeus disliked mankind and gave Prometheus a sentence of forever had his liver being eaten by an eagle (the alien eating on his insides)
and something along those lines, similarities are too great to ignore, of course I don't really think they had that idea all along since the first Alien movie, but still pretty gud

When I first heard of the title Prometheus and that Peter Weyland is a character innit, I immidiately thought that it's gonna end with Weyland stealing Jockey/Pilot/Creator tech and achieving immortality but only to get stuck in some sort of xenomorph breeding facility. You, know, how the eagle came and ripped Prometheus' guts open during days and healed it during nights? It would've been an endless loop of getting facefucked, chestbursted and healed.

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There are also connections to fucking Frankenstein of all things.

The stab wound on David's chin should have been a dead giveaway to Daniels as to his true identity, how did he manage to heal it so quickly?
Other questions, while I'm at it:
Why was the juggernaut crashed into the side of a mountain when David had already docked it to unleash the pathogen?
If David created the Xenomorphs, why is there an ancient juggernaut, complete with chestbursted Engineer, full of their eggs in Alien?
How did the biosphere of the planet not completely implode over 10 years without any animal life to sustain it?
Why did the Engineer civilians all dress like they lived in the fucking bronze age?
How did that one guy get knocked up by a facehugger that spent less than 10 seconds on him?

Perhaps it actually was Walter, or at least his body.

Maybe he didn't want to land in middle of the clusterfuck he caused?

Not necessarily the same strain. David could've just rediscovered the optimal recipe.

Hard to say how the rest of the planet was like. And 10 years isn't that much.

They were just another sub-group created by the actual engineers. Not real engies. Might explain why they limited themselves to one city only, they might lack the urge to expand and explore. They are meek. Humans can be devilish. Probably that's why they wanted to vipe us out in Prometheus.

Interesting question. Prehaps it's not something as simple as just pushing an egg down the throat. Perhaps it actually injects some sort of agent similar to the goo or the spores, which causes the xenomorph to manifest from regular flesh. In such, perhaps it already managed to throw some precum inside the dude, changing the gestation process but slower?

Btw, I really, really fucking hope that Scott isn't aiming to explain how the ancient juggernaut got on LV-426. That shit doesn't need an explanation.

I'm sorry, I but got triggered by that comment.

Let us begin by addressing some technical things first.

I was wondering what the actual fuck they were thinking with that one, really. It's not like they pump those things full of helium or anything.

The rest of that scene was just pants on head retarded, starting with the faggot ass pilot missing point blank shots at a still target in a fucking cramped ship, and somehow successfully blowing everything up from the inside because she shot some fuel tanks or something.

Yeah nigger but what is alien bacteria (exactly what happens after)? What if sneezing collapses the ecosystem? Yeah, fuck you.

I have so much hate for this film you don't even know.

This.
AvP1 was excellent.

Had the atmosphere of fear and danger.
Haven't seen a better game since though.

yeah i always thought Weyland was just running on standard Umbrella corporate policy, turns out humans were retarded all along.

It had to be daniel since he had no clue about the cabin, which just makes things all the more impossible

Also regarding >Maybe he didn't want to land in middle of the clusterfuck he caused?
That's still no reason to crash-land the ship. If he was capable of fucking docking it, he should have been capable of not mcfucking destroying it.

>People in real life STILL cannot understand this plot point
And you realize this NOW?

You don't fit in, ironic newfriend.

I was being humorous, Umbrella's entire corporate policy revolves around what you just listed and so does Weyland. I was poking fun at them, figures it wouldn't come across well in text without voice inflection.

Okay.

The colony ship itself is apparently able to enter the atmosphere if the atmospheric conditions are favorable and more equipment capable of flight is on board. They only had one landing ship capable of passing through an atmosphere.

Still kind of dumb.

That's just the only repair they are shown doing (besides Daniels and Walter adjusting some cargo that shifted), but I assume there was more actual repairs necessary seeing as how Walter estimated it would take 48 hours to finish.

15 people.

It's possible Walter could have done all of the repairs himself, but I doubt he could have completed them very quickly. Keep in mind that he strongly warns of a possibility of another neutrino burst which is what caused the system failures that needed to be repaired.

System failure caused by the neutrino burst.

Hype material strongly implies Tennessee is not the most responsible of people, hence why permission of a second bridge member is required to get the computer to comply with his command.

A lot of your complaints can be explained by the fact that the characters in this film are more like frontier settlers and not soldiers. They are company people, glorified space truckers, and not particularly disciplined. Their security team is probably more comparable to mall cops than trained soldiers, and it's made pretty clear that Oram was a poor choice for his position from the start, not even taking his sudden promotion into account, so his lapse in judgment regarding David is just more of the same.

Although…
How many movies actually play this out realistically? The original Alien film only has them in suits because they know the atmosphere is toxic (and the helmets were lit up so we could see their faces despite the fact that in reality this would make it impossible for them to see through the visors).

This is a science fiction trope that is never going to go away.

I figure a puncture wound probably wouldn't be that noticeable. Or it's a plot hole.

I expect David "crashed it" himself, to lend more plausibility to his story of not being able to control the ship, hence the "accidental" activation of the bioweapon.

I expect the events of the next movie will involve David completing the xenomorphs to the level of the original films, and an Engineer discovering it and loading up a ship with eggs somehow (after some manner of conflict, of course).

*shrug* Probably a plot hole, but there's a possibility the fungus bioweapon could be supplementing some of the natural processes necessary to keep everything running. Odds are that would only function as a temporary stop gap and not keep the planet going indefinitely.

And then there's that scene I mentioned before with the seemingly still active cloud of bioweapon particles flying around, as well as a potential neomorph hive.

Then again, we don't see the entire planet. Maybe it hasn't completely spread across the whole globe. The Covenant crew did zero in on Shaw's signal, after all.

No reason not to? Their ships have rooms that look like temples all over the place, with seemingly religious murals as well. Odds are the casual wear of the Engineers is very basic. This isn't exactly a new concept of very advanced aliens living very simple lifestyles with very simple comforts. It's probably meant to drive home the seemingly religious attitude the Engineers are implied to have towards their science, making them appear more like monks than scientists.

Fucking bingo. This pisses me off to no end. If facehuggers are capable of impregnating that quickly it makes the whole process of providing life support for hosts rather superfluous.

We have no reason to think that. They looked the same as the Engineers in the previous film. Them having only one city could be chalked up to any number of reasons… Maybe their race has never been all that numerous? Maybe they lost significant portions of their population in the war the bioweapon is presumably intended for?

I can't buy that. Maybe if the alien that got aboard the Covenant was different from the one that was birthed from Oram, but they appeared the same so they should require the same method of gestation.

Sorry, but after the announcement of this current trilogy being lead ups to the original film I fully expect them to do exactly that.

It looked about as intact as they always do, just overgrown due to ten years being out in the wilderness. I expect he crashed it on purpose to make his story more believable.

Because they start with "We want to make it aliens" and THEN try to make it a good game.

Instead of "We want to make a good game" and THEN try to make it aliens.

Are you fucking retarded?

There should be tons of new things to explore and see in the Alien universe beyond the traditional Xenomorph you cumgurgling nigger.

System failure doesn't make a sleep capsule combustible. I can't even begin to understand how a fire that instense can start from inside a capsule with very limited oxygen quantities (nevermind that there are no combustible materials in there).

Which begs for the question of why there is a sole robot walking around during the sleep phase. You can certain argue that they don't have unlimited budget, but that's all the more reason to wonder why the fuck they'd pack such an over-engineered marvel of science (walter) at all. I mean the thing perfectly mirrors a human in almost every possible way. It could have been a collection of tools and scrap metal with a good AI, no need for encyclopedic knowledge, pretty boy packaging. I mean the fact that walter is bipedal is already overkill.

They could have had 4-5 R2D2 wannabes and achieve much better efficiency.

If that's true, and these guys don't have any military background at all, who in their right fucking minds would trust the lives of 2000+ people to a handful of space truckers? It just gets that much dumber.

Furthermore, if that is true, who in their right fucking minds would grant fully automatic firearms, shotguns and hazardous materials to fucking space truckers with no form of authority or supervision within millenia of their location? This is like a set up for lord of the flies, not a freaking "hunt or be hunted" type of film at all.

die already ripley

I liked Covenant because for me it crossesd the threshold of retarded to become hilarious, much like The Room or Samurai Cop did, or like some new Resident Evil movies do.
Honestly, it's the best comedy with visual humor currently being shown at cinemas. I laughed uncontrollably way too many times watching it. mostly at bad cgi and at the xenos whenever they appeared
like that miniature xenomorph instead of a larva what the fuck
also that girl slipping on some blood, love me some good slapstick
VIDEO GAMES

I actually saw Covenant in cinema and let me tell you: the only exciting part about the movie was two androids fighting. In an Alien movie. That's how fucked up it is. Fucking BRAVO Scott!

I fucking hope they use the premise of Crucible eventually. It's too good idea for an Alien game to waste.

Would alien ejaculate be acidic?
The woman should have gaping bloody holes in their gut and back of their heads from fucking xenos.

Depends on which part of the alien's blood is acidic, and if this same compound exists in their sperm (If they produce sperm, that is).

You take that back you double nigger old games with cool art are a national treasure.

Oh wow my thread is still here after an entire week.

Xenomorphs don't produce sperm since they're mostly asexual. I think the Queen is technically the only female or they're all female. The Queen did technically form a vagina so it could give birth to that shitty human-alien hybrid.

There was a Xenomorph King that was genetically made. They were incredibly hostile more than a Queen.

hownew.ru

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Why couldn't this series die a dignified death?

I thought 4 was a decent ending

The only thing I'm gonna count as a dignified ending is seeing a movie where either the Xenomorphs infest earth or we finally see their homeworld. Oh and Colonial Marines in it.

I ber you in 6 movies we still won't get pulse rifles or space Nam vibes.

There was an Alien game on PS1, wasn't there?
I distinctly remember playing the shit out of it as a kid because I didn't have a computer so I couldn't play Doom.

Wasn't that the plot of AvP: The Arcade Game (The Capcom Beat 'em Up)?

Yeah but we're never gonna get that game re-released are we?

Feels fucking bad, man. We'll never get an action/horror movie as good as aliens ever again.
I need my BRRRRT BRRRRRRRT godamnit!

You know what the movies should have?

WeyYu commandos and/or combat synths.

You know what else they should have? Jeri

In fact no that's probably a bad call. I can picture normalfags latching onto him closw to Groot tier.

I think i read a fanfiction about him
I wasn't even looking for xenomorphs i was looking for Species Smut

Really?

Link, pls.

I want the children to leave.

Good atmosphere but shitty repetitive gameplay.

I liked the gameplay but it did get repetitive.

Nah, I am sure Scott will finally die before he can do more damage to his legacy and the Alien and Blade Runner universe.

You do realize that this shit circus is going down the path of MCU with Blade Runner, Predators and Terminators merging into one continuity when he dies? They are already doing it with the books.

There was a semi-sequel (basically another game in the same style) released on the DS late in its life. It largely got overlooked but was pretty good.

You just waited until a family member watched it at home and then watched it with them.

I never liked how inconsistent the alien gestation time felt, some parasites emerge 30 seconds after the hug while other last hours, I guess they played with that parameter for plot convenience.
I've read somewhere it's supposed to take around 8 hours.

daily reminder: never ever again

Its mostly just a tired old trope of retards in space. Shoot. Them. With bullets. This kills the Alien.

She's going to end up so confused when she's older.

well there was afew comics about making a male xenomorph a king and a rouge as it were

Fuck this was so good. I read it at my library a week ago, it was tucked way in the back of the shelving.

It actually works on so many levels beyond a quick-buck adaptation. Actual comic theory and love went into it.

We don't have a Doom thread so I guess I'll post it here.

mediafire.com/file/mqdl5ft1lz5ate8/ALIENS_The_Ultimate_Doom_Beta_9.2.pk3

Changelog
Everything from the last Doom thread plus:
Ripped from Project Brutality. Might swap it for D4T's muzzle flash in the future because that one seems to work better.
Also ripped from PB. Not completely happy with how it works though it does work better than the original one. There's an annoying giant ass red flare when the flames get close to their maximum range that I can't seem to get rid of.
Currently this means they will try to jump away (or in some cases, toward you) and retreat for a little while if you hit them with fire

bump for visibility

halo

Why not just play AVP on the Atari Jaguar?

because people might want to play doom instead

No, there's not.

Why are cameroncucks so fucking retarded?

But AVP Jaguar IS a Doom clone.

Linn Kurosawa >>>>>>>>>>>>> Ripley
Linn Kurosawa >>>>>>>>>>>>> Vasquez

But Doom was supposed to be a licensed Aliens game but the deal fell through, so they just said "fuck it" and replaced the aliens with demons.

Explain to me how Linn K is better than Ripley in terms of a female survivalist in detail. You are full of shit if you can't do it.

She was the product of ambitious Japanese corporations, the latest of cyborg technology, combining superhuman strength, speed, familiarity with all types of weapons, and a prototype programming that gives her virtually all the martial arts ever created. She was specially adept in the Japanese sword art of Kendo, among other styles. She used a katana blade as a personal defense weapon. When all of her team except for Dutch Schaefer were wiped out, she and Dutch joined forces with two Yautja to destroy the Hive.

She has a sword and a shitload of moves including a not-hadouken.

But Doom isn't an Aliens game.

Anime bullshit aside I mean.

She punches aliens dude

Alien: Covenant spoilers below, if you give a shit.
The albino as fuck Engineers created Humanity, and we in turn created Androids.
Specifically, David was created by a white man, Peter Weyland.
David was too human (flaws included) and had a desire to create.
There's a 10(?) year gap between Prometheus and Covenant, so he had a decade to experiment and fuck around with the black goo.
David made the Xenomorphs.
David is a white, Aryan looking Android.
Xenomorphs were created by whites confirmed.

And thats why hundreds of years later, even after the android revolution and subsequent purge, The military is still trying to use them as a weapon as any other form of weapon is inferior
yep, its fucked

That's up to the jews who own the IP. If you want originality, then seek original IPs rather than pre-existing ones.

Go away, cameron-cuck. Even if Ridley is doing his own share of retardation, at least he's kinda making the xenos less of naturally evolved dumb bugs.

yeah by making them immune to bullets. that's more than a "fair share" of retardation.
do not want

I think you misunderstood user
I was making the point that a primitive android can do more in ten years then androids hundreds of years in the future can
And if avp 1 the movie or the predator games are canon, The androids in the future are also using alien tech
Think about how retarded that is
or how the android was able to kill off a civilization at least several millennia more advanced than humans
using millennia out off date technology
also xenoborg are cool, they spooked me in avp 1 when i played alien

Much better than having them act like common rabid animals that can be shot down without effort. You want that zero-effort garbage, go watch a zombie-movie or similar low-brow garbage.

What I hate about Covenant was the fact that they killed off the Engineers, I guess. Even though that was just one city on one planet. I was actually more interested in the Engineers than the Xenomorphs, myself. I guess I didn't care where the Xenomorphs came from, I just wanted more lore for the gargantuan humanoid race that created us.

he could have made them a threat in an intelligent manner without resorting to this cringy bullshit and you're insane for defending it. it's the same shit you're critisizing but with worse shit on top.

user you misunderstand
Aliens get traits from the species they incubate inside, which means that they got humanities hive-mentality from us and behave like sheep in groups
Not to mention they go to any lengths to protect the queen, which makes them take suicidal orders
This ultimately causes them to act like lemmings when the hive is under attack by a small presence, which is why predators prefer to go into hives in small groups
Alternatively hwne the alien ios by itself, it doesn't act like a sheep but rather a super intelligent killing machine, I.E Alien (1)
Alien 3 on the other hand was just retarded, although the alien was born from a dog
Overall this makes the alien a flexible horror monster, both acting in a slasher or a zombie film

>killed off the engineers
They're in the comics still user and if i remember correctly, they were looking for habitable planets, which is why they dropped xenos on earth to depopulate the humans and then proceeded to freeze it to kill the aliens
I think the comics are more canon than the movies post 2

Alternatively when the alien is*
fug

AVP was always in a different universe. Predator on the other hand was confirmed to be in the same Universe, don't know about the comics though.

That comic was so fucked up

That's confusing though when you factor in the prequel films.
They seeded the planet with life, like on Earth, then they wanted to kill us off? What the fuck?
Was our whole purpose just an afterthought or byproduct of them seeding other species as an offshoot of ours, so they'd have wildlife they could cultivate? Were we supposed to terraform the place a bit? Or what?

I thought they weren't immune to bullets but that you need a really high caliber to put holes in them due to tough exoskeletons. Was that retconned?

That would make sense, but I don't doubt that they fucked too much with the story.

If Predator is in the same universe, does that count the games?
Because in one of them (I think it was concrete jungle), predator technology gets reversed by the humans to some degree
I also always felt that the AVP game was always canon, regardless of the universe

user its really simple
it was atheist propaghanda
obviously rather than make sense, Ridley decided to make a political statement
And that statement was that if we don't kill god, we will make something that does that will also then make something to kill its god (us)

The avp films fucked it up and i'm pretty sure aliens:resurrection is at fault here somehow

I laughed. But it makes sense as propaganda.

Pretty sure the AVP films are confirmed non-canon thanks to A:C.

I also agree that they're non-canon, however its similar to how they made smaug a wyvern in one of the movies, because some other popular piece of media presented them differently
You could say aliens is at fault here, but really in the future pulse rifles are high caliber
But then avp showed them getting killed by small guns

I think people give the xenos on aliens too little credit. they don't really act like "rabid animals" there, they act according to the tools and limitations they have.
Take the first contact for example. If you watch it just once you probably won't pay attention to this, but the moment the marines enter the hive they were being watched, and they couldn't act until they knew what they were dealing with. After a marine torches a facehugger what do they do? They surgically remove everyone carring a flamethrower because now they know what it is and what it can do to the hive (Drake was carrying one but it was underslug). After they remove the most obvious threat another one appears: the smartgun. They hadn't seen a smartgun ever before, and when its power is shown they quickly move to eliminate the only two people carrying them: Drake and Vasquez. I'd say this is the only reason anyone even got out alive. The pressure was all on these two and nothing survives against a burst of that thing. You also need to remember that they were just waking up from hybernation. The alien in the first movie was also slow as fuck when waking up. They didn't seem to kill more than maybe 4 or so on this scene.
The next scene that makes people think aliens on the second movie are too dumb is the corridor scene with the sentry guns. It gives us the impression that the guns are mowing them down, but we only ever see about 2 or 3 of them get killed, and while you might say "that's because of the cuts", if you pause you'll see that when the aliens are getting hit they're alone, not accompanied by a horde. It's more probable that they were sending scouts to test the defenses, which was about the only thing they could have done at that point. Remember also that a single alien can move after getting his limbs blown off and will only die after catastrophic structural damage (getting sprayed by automatic gunfire by guns shooting giant caseless explosive tipped rounds), so these lone scouts could have made the sentries waste a lot of ammo. I've seen accounts that say about 8 aliens were killed by the sentries.

They're resistant to small calibers much like polar bears or rhinos. A 7.62x39 for example is something I believe would hurt them.
They are "perfect organisms" as in they will always trive in a natural situation, no matter what. Low pressure, high pressure, high temperatures, low temperatures, whatever air composition, toxic or not (for us), and of course other possible predatory life forms: scratches, slashes, punctures, bludgeonings, etc.
Going against bullets is not a natural situation, and the fact that they are not immune to them don't make them any less of an almost perfect organism, biologically speaking. Their only weakness is their way of reproduction but that is necessary for the horror element.

No because the games that have Predators in it are in the AVP universe.

By that I mean aliens and I wasn't taking into account the shotgun scene in the APC.

Something people also don't take into account is that the hive in the lore is not an "ant hive", it's pretty fucking eldritch/cosmic horror like, in that it starts warping stuff around them, and I'm not talking about the goop that they use to build it.
People start forming chtulu-like cults around a hive, even going to great lengths to protect it. In the presence of a queen, people start to change or go mad, much like in the presence of an elder god, and she can influence people through dreams or nightmares. Xenos are pretty fucking interesting as both an eldritch horror and as a biological creature, it's just a shame people choose to remember them as "just big ants" or "those things that the predator eats for breakfast".

Meant a chesburster, fugg

Makes sense seeing as there are aliens in the predator games, despite how avp1 and 2 (movies) are significantly less technology advanced as they are in the games
Still the whole plot of concrete jungle ends with how MOTHER was created, which is never seen in the AVP movies or predator movies

But i thought they communicated like with pheromones and shit?
Like in that comics with the red aliens?

They're psychic, and they use pheromones.

I think we can go deeper anons
What if the pheromones are psychic?
And rather then the alien queen being the psychic ruler, it is in fact a psychic pheromone that controls everything, including the queen
And that it ranks queens as more important pieces which is why it defends them so much
That also explains why in one of the avp games, an alien drone abandons the queen, because the collective pheromone psyche knows that it has to die in order to prevent the predators and humans from constantly coming and finishing off the aliens there
It also might explain why some people are more prone to psychic attacks than others, as they have been in contact with aliens before

Isolation was such a good fucking game for me.

I think they use the pheromones between themselves to coordinate efficiently (and quietly).
I don't remember if the psychic thing is only the queen or if the other ones have it in a more limited manner, and I don't think they use to communicate between themselves. It makes sense for them to have all the psychic shit from a lovecraftian persepective, considering they're sadistic as fuck. It made much more sense when they were still a mysterious thing with origins that you could only dream of, but I guess Ridley shat on that now.

That reminds me that there's some sort of creature in Routine based off the trailer. Assuming the game is released I look forward to see what it is.

amy dedicated levels for the WAD? Ultimate Doom and Doom 2 levels barely has ammo in the maps.

In some ant species, the queen mind controls the drones with pheromones so that they work for her. Sometimes it doesn't work and they turn on her and eat her.

I'd like a movie that shows what happens between the first colonist at Hadley's Hope getting facehugged and the arrival of the marines. If done well in the style of the first movie and mixed the eldritch elements it could be fugging excelent.

That also can be used aganist the xenos, if humans understand the xenos biology like the drone pheromone receptors and/or the queen pheromone glands, humans can synthetise xeno pheromones to lure them into a kill zone or just block their pheromone receptors.

I though it would be sufficient after I reduced the chance of monster spawning (especially monster closets)
Maybe I was just having good luck. I'll have to tweak it even more, then. I'm trying to balance this for co-op too and one problem I found with reducing monster spawn is that with co-op it could make the whole thing too uneventful. I mean, maybe you can say it helps build tension, but I don't want it to become a joke with more than one person. I need ammo to be enough of a problem that you can't waste it like mad but not enough to make it ridiculous and unplayable. My predicament now is basically this:
Ammo needs to be scarce but not too much. Monster spawning needs to be enough to keep things tense and interesting (even more if you have to watch your ammo), but not like in the original mod where you encounter a monster closet with 50 aliens every 5 meters. That not only doesn't work in this version where the aliens are actual threats (and makes a lot of maps unplayable, particularly the ones with lots and lots of ambushes), it also makes you burn out faster doesn't make for good gameplay.

I think that's where the psychic stuff comes in

Also these are some maps that I have either tested or completed with this mod and seem to work well enough:

I enjoy the variety of evil creatures and mutants but the prequel logic is too convoluted for me. I would love a disaster movie where they hit Earth and are bursting out of elephants and kangaroos.

I've never liked the idea of telepathic xenos, but putting it like that does give it a bit credit. However, I wouldn't there being something that makes it more than just "space magic".

I know Evolve is pretty disliked game, but it had some pretty good ideas on how to make the creatures feel "scientific" while giving them the Lovecraftian horror of unknown. The monsters' capability to spawn massive amounts of energy and biological data out of nothing was explained by their DNA-equivalent having some sort of resonance to a dimension that humans used for warp drives, "Cherenkov space". There was a really cool bit of dialogue where the one character explains how the monsters' DNA is too volatile control in lab environments, but when controlled with a similar equation and energy that humans use for FTL they managed to sabilize it. Some autists had looked at the equation that was explained somewhere and it was basically a vector. Meaning that they stabilized the creature's DNA by synchronizing it something that moves inside that Cherenkov space.

I think Alien could make use of their own version of elder gods, and I think it still might be possible with Scott stating that the Engineers were created by something greater. Just hope that they have the brains to write it well rather than doing even bigger whiter and balder dudes.

I want this meme to die.

If you actually watch and pay attention to the movie, the aliens were not dumb at all.

and this too

Alien purists need to stop shitting on Cameron's Aliens.
Both Alien and Aliens are great.

Alien 3 was average and Alien Resurrection was a steaming pile of shit only worth watching as a flick.

They already have a mutant gene tonic, that when consumed makes the guy who took it a target for being torn apart by xenomorphs. They respond badly to the wrong pheromone combination.

Aliens, the film itself, was badly-paced and the movie is too popular for its own good like Half-Life, Doom, and Pulp Fiction where people think it's a masterpiece or 1,000,000/10 work of art that will blow your mind. Aliens felt like an hour long movie by how little happens and little articulated in how much time it's running but I'm probably just a lorefag.

If you're a lorefag you should love Aliens, because it expanded a lot on the universe and background as well as sparking the AVP games.

The marine campaign in the AVP games all re-create the Aliens movie with a similar vibe and atmosphere.

I like the lore it added but the movie didn't really have much exposition with them, I haven't seen it in over a year so I need to rewatch but I was a little disappointed with it.

Fun fact the smart gun and the pulse rifle fire the same time of ammunition. That thing isn't dangerous because of its high rate of fire, but because of its accuracy.
The death rate is higher as the movie could not have played out as it did, if the Xenomorph population wasn't decimated enough.
Xenomorphs in Aliens die to 9mm Pistols at the end.

The problem is not that the Xenomorphs are stupid in Aliens, because that can be excused by them not having great knowledge about human firearms, but that the Alien purefags act like their Xenomorph was like some kind of nobel prize winner, when it actually just acted like all the other rubber suit monster from hollywood horror movies. The only difference that movie has is the camera perspective.

Alien
Aliens
Predator
Aliens versus Predator (game)
Aliens versus Predator 2 (game)

Alien 3 (had serious issues but still a decent atmosphere)
Predator 2 (it wasn't bad, just not outstanding either. felt average)

Alien Resurrection
Prometheus
Alien Covenant
Alien vs Predator (movie)
Aliens vs Predator 2 Requiem

AVP comics

You should rewatch it then because your memory is clouded.

Gives us a more clean picture of the xenomorph. In the first movie it was just a scary unknown creature. In the second movie it was fleshed out and shown how they really operate.

Unarmed space truckers had no chance, but what if we send in the space marines? They still get fucked. I don't see how you couldn't like the story tbh.

The only legit complaint about Aliens is how Ripley's affection for Newt comes out of nowhere. In an early cut scene you have her learn about the death of her daughter while in space for all those years, so that explains why Ripley became so overprotective about Newt.

And all of that happens within the first half of the film, it could've been better if it was longer or just had a different director.

Oh and AVP 2010 game also belongs in shit tier.

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The only way it could've been better is if the actors were more utilized.

They all felt organic and natural, but many interesting people got killed off early.

Bill Paxton's performance was fucking great, but it would be interesting to have seen more of Apone, Drake and the silent nigger.

Rifle fires 10x24mm and Smartgun fires 10x28mm actually. It's not the pistol round that these things are firing, obviously, even though it uses the same dimensions.
there is one point where the bullet hits at an awkward angle and bounces off (when gorman shoots one) and there's another point where it is shot at point blank by Vasquez and it penetrates. Again they are resistant to it, not immune. Depends on a lot of factors like angle, muzzle velocity, bullet type, powder load etc.

QUESTION

Why don't some people rate Alien 3 the same as Alien and Aliens? I personally love it as I see it as a great conclusion to Ripley's story. This beast that has haunted her for a good chunk of her life is back again in her life, two people she cares about are dead and to top it off she is surrounded by rapists. That to me is really oppressive atmosphere that most people would be crushed under as there is danger from every angle. I personally find that as engaging as the previous two.

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That was a waste of my time, literally 20 seconds out of an 11 minute video is all that was committed to criticism towards the final product. It can be summed up as this.

Hicks and Newt were killed off.
Prisoners were in effect the protagonists.
The movie can't make up it's mind if it wants to be action, eldrich horror or a religious film.

The first and second points are subjective and perspective so I see this as a case of "I didn't like it" than bad. The third point is the only one that has any weight to it yet this can be counter argued that the theme of Alien 3 is oppressive. I like that and it's something that it excels more at than the first two.

The point is that Alien 3 is considered a mix bag.

By most it is nowhere near Alien and Aliens, others (like you) find it underrated.

Just be glad that it isn't as shit as the recent garbage.

Okay let me ask this comparison from a different angle. Explain why Alien and Aliens are better than Alien 3.

Another point is that it's fine being a "depressive" film, but it should at least end on a good note. Instead, it's depressive from start to finish, not even trying to finish it with a good ending.

Alien ends in a sigh of relief as Ripley sleeps in a shuttle.
Aliens ends in a sigh of relief as Newt, mommy and daddy are sleeping.

Alien 3 starts off saying "FUCK YOU" and killing off beloved characters right off the bat and ends with a bald depressed woman falling in a lava pit while a chestburster is coming out.
Terrible way to end the trilogy but still better than Resurrection which had a lot more problems

Prison planet I can handle.
Depressive brownbloom mood I can handle.
Dog alien I can understand and makes sense.
Unimpressive forgettable characters, fine.
Shit CGI is pushing it.
But not conclusively wrapping up the story? Fuck that. The ending was bad.

They were just executed better and had clear visions of what kind of films they wanted to be. Better acting, more cohesive plot, etc.

because alien and aliens didn't end up with a dog chase and ironically killing the doglien with boiling acid?
but no in all seriousness, i enjoyed aliens:resurrection more than i did alien 3 it helps if you completely mentally block out all the scenes with ripley and robodyke

better dead than living with the pain, mang

see this is why aliens:ressurection is better than alien 3
no prison planet, no depressive brownbloom and an exciting atmosphere, no dog ayy lmaos, no shit CGI if you don't count the intro
The characters were actually memorable
Excluding ripley, there was the wheelchair guy, The dreadlocks guy, the redneck and the robodyke
And i mean at least it didn't kill off the main character, hell the entire movie was about trying to undo alien 3 without retconning it as much as possible

It was like:
How do we get another bishoip? easy, robot rebellion
How do we make ripley alive again? Cloning, if Jurassic park can do it, so can we
How do we get back aliens? see above
How do we innovate the alien like in every film? Humanalien hybrid
How do we get a "cute" innocent girl to protect? Lets combine it with the android, problem solved

Alien 3 ends in a sigh of relief that the alien has been destroyed and kept out of WY hands, and Ripley's suffering has ended.
A really happy ending from the situation the film created would've felt contrived and more disliked than the movie already is.

It is at the end of the day a horror film after all.

Its not like shes the veteran of some war user, killing people off because they've experienced horrible things is kinda immoral
Also When you take into account she is actually quite young, its almost like a spit in the face of the previous 2 movies
also why would you want to kill xenomorphs? They sexy

A:R felt like a fucking parody.

It felt like Deep Blue Sea in space, whereas Alien was Jaws in space. It's one of those "so bad it's good" flicks you watch with friends just to get a laugh. I liked DBS btw, one of my guilty pleasures. It's a fun shark movie.

The problem with Resurrection, Prometheus and Covenant is that they leave little for imagination. They are so explicit and careless when expanding on the universe canon. "Here's the space jockey. Yep, a tall pasty white bald dude. Oh btw they didnt create the aliens, an android did."

The first 3 films (yes even Alien 3) still retained that mystery and isolated feeling to it. The suspense and atmosphere did most of the work.

The way Ripley died didn't feel satisfying though. She has this red-blood in her eyes and looks depressed as fuck, at least accept your situation and die like a badass like Hudson did.

This is different strokes for different folks. You don't like the idea of having no hope at the end, I like movies from time to time having no hope, or in a sense a suicide mission.

Yeah Alien has the best cast but Aliens cast is mainly 2 dimensional. They did their role great but that's as far as they could go. The prisoners we more interesting and unpredictable than the marines.

Those characters were as Saturday morning cartoon as they get. I'm all for dumb action heroes but they were like some kind of 80's action hero knockoffs.

I'm not saying she deserves to die, I'm asking whether you really see a happy future for Ripley after that point?

Honestly I like her death, she shows extreme courage and moral resolve in that she would take her own life before allowing something like the xeno to go to WY, which would almost certainly cause untold misery in the future.

There is nothing wrong with how Ripley died and if you disagree you're a faggot.

The actors in Aliens felt organic and natural.

They spent a lot of time together before the shooting the film even began, they were instructed by a real Vietnam vet and worked out just for the movie.

You felt the camaraderie and even minor characters with almost no lines were memorable. You bought that these marines knew each other to the point of fooling and playing around.

You guys only think that because you grew up long after it came out
And as such have already been introduced to similar character tropes
You sound like those faggots who think that scully and muldur from the X-files are basically copying the sam and dean from supernatural
Also Deep Blue Sea was a great movie and its main down point was Samuel L Jackson getting killed so early in

yes and no, I would've preferred it if she died like a bad ass and didn't look depressed, I also would've preferred her living and not coming back as a retarded clone in aliens resurrection

No you're a faggot

I will agree that A:R is silly shit.

you would have to be retarded to think Aliens Resurrection isn't silly

It felt like one of the shitty fan fiction tier Aliens comics that they released before 3 frankly.

Yeah and that's it. Nothing wrong with them, they are very enjoyable cast but they are two dimensional. This is the limit of them. When I say weak I don't mean bad, far from it. They are more of a point down rather than a substantial gap.

I'm 36, I watched Alien Resurrection at the cinema. Stop defecting with weak rationale.

That must have been a disappointing evening.

Alien 3 is the best of the "worst" movies in the franchise.

Let's put it that way

I'm sorry but Predator 2 is pretty bad.

Another bonus point is that Alien 3 for the SNES was the first good alien(s) game ever made.

Why?

I don't think Predator 2 is bad, just not outstanding either. It's average, but that ending is really good.

Its just a mediocre verging on crappy action movie.
The first is much, much better. 2 really isn't that much better than A:R.

Ripley's death was bad ass, regardless of if you're too stupid to acknowledge it or not, faggot.

At first no because I was coming of the high with it being an Alien film but the more I thought about it later the more I started to find things I hate because I realised what I watched. The core ideas of Alien Resurrection are great and this is what I was absorbed in when I first watched it but with repeat viewings I started to hate it because the dumb shit was impossible to ignore at that point.

Also being 17 at that point you're more forgiving with shit. As I've got older my tolerance for crap is near eroded away.

Pretty much my experience with Prometheus, especially after I read the Alien: Engineers script (I think it was called that) and really became aware of how weak and stupid the changes were, though it still wouldn't have been that great a movie.

yes but what about fanfiction for Aliens:resurrection?
Do you know how bad fan fiction is for alien:resurrection?
Heres some lesbian smut fanfiction user
archiveofourown.org/works/6296578/chapters/14429305
RobodykeXRipley

I felt like AVP3 (game) was more mediocre but not particularly shit, also why didn't you post the pic for avp:gold edition instead?
And i think the avp film wasn't too bad, but requiem was complete cancer

Okay Frank Miller, sorry everything can't be retarded extreme for you. Jesus what a massive faggot.

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I thought it was tacky. Way too "cinematic" with her falling in lava and holding the thing with her hands after it blew a hole in her.
I also have a problem with killing off Hicks and Newt but less the idea and more the reason for it and the execution. It felt like he wanted Ripley as hero too much and didn't account for these characters at all, so he had to find a cheap, quick way to deal with them so he could focus on her. Their deaths are not really taken advantage of, they're just there so she can shine. At this point it just feels forced, what with her having to deal with these things yet again.
It honestly would be better if we accompanied different characters in the third movie, in a different situation which would also give us a good excuse to show new and interesting things not yet seen, like some of the other Giger concepts.

Is Aliens Colonial Marines worth a pirate just to experience it for yourself like Daikatana?

Is Isolation worth playing for someone who doesnt like horror games or is it just run from the oogey spooky monster insanity meter nonsense? I pretty much know nothing about it

user suidicing by possibly one of the most painful ways possible doesn't equal badass no matter how much of an edgy faggot you are

Couldn't you bully the aliens in colonial Marines?
like push them around and shit?

Alien Isolation is good but ACM is not really worth it. You're better off playing the doom mod I posted earlier, no joke.

Fuck you user, you have no idea what good writing is.

at what point does she know the corps coming?
I can't honestly remember its been years

It's great how Apone appears so little and yet he's one of the most memorable characters.

They have her surrounded and are ready to capture her at the end.

that does sound better then i remember, that constipated face she makes and the bad cgi acid probably made me forget

Don't get me wrong, it has horrible CGI, but that aside it's a good moment. The movie has lots of problems and I don't want to defend all of it, but that ending is good conceptually. Ultimate sacrifice is a good way for such a character to go.

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I loved Isolation, and it's honestly one of my all time favorite games, but I can see why some people hated it.
There's no insanity meter but it goes on a little too long, and has a pretty sequel bate-y ending. Some people didn't like the AI and this and that, but I think it comes down to expectations. If you like stealth and horror you'll probably like Isolation. There is combat in it but it's not that great, and the game does pretty much force you into it at points, but not that often. It's also pretty hard for a AAA game.

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lacking so many games and also comics tbh

I can live with that.

Isolation is a game about being hunted by the Alien. If that sounds fun: have at it. It does the "you are being hunted" thing very well, I really like how the AI will specifically pick up on little things you do. I would always wait to hear it go back in the air vent, so eventually it would start going in and out of the vent multiple times. Made me feel like an intelligent being was working against me. It's not the best game ever made, but it's pretty good for stealth horror and alienfags.

The Mode 7 version of the ending on the SNES version was pretty sweet too.

Can't believe all you faggots have forgotten about this game made by fucking WayForward. You all need to re-evaluate yourselves.

I find you really have to specify Alienfags and not Alien(s)fags.
If your expecting something like Aliens you will be disappointed.

I think average should be replaced with Mixed but thats pretty spot on

Yeah, that's an important point. Good you stated it. It's Alien, not Aliens.

Personally mixed makes them sound like we all think they have good and bad parts. I think Alien 3 is better categorised as polarising rather than mixed. I see Alien 3 on par with Alien and Aliens. I have very little to complain about when it comes to it. This is not the same for others.

we're doing this now

also found what the mmo was

Extinction should've been on the fucking PC.

Great concept, but RTS on consoles just don't work.

People like Isolation?

I thought it was pretty shit.

Doesn't really look like an MMO. Just a multiplayer only shooter.

I see

Ah fuck, I'll try it.

Also, did any non-vaseline blu-rays for Predator ever come out?

Meant for:

No love for Predators.

change and add my superior nigger friend

What's wrong with it?

The only issue is the mundane "go there and press this button" fetch objectives. Wish there were more puzzles and diverse shit to do like in Half-Life.

It also drags on for too long and the second half stretch can feel tiresome to the point you just want to end it.

It was mixed, there were a lot of bugs and stupid shit in it
However the preorder campaign that they later added as dlc was actually the highlight of the game
The one where you play as the original Alien cast

Wasn't that just a fan movie?
They also made one set in the medieval ages.

that's what I'm getting from it too

It was in cinemas, and I found it pretty enjoyable.

No.
Just no.

Did he even kill it?
I haven't watched it since it came out, but I thought he lost the fight, or at least died.

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They both died.

What, you wanted him to strip down, cover himself in mud and wrestle it first?

Nothing wrong with that, it got me to play it in the first place. However, that's only for the Xeno. The human AI is pretty fucked.
Agreeable
While it had some few good shots from here and there when you could see outside the spaceship, the rest was pretty passable for generic spaceship, other than the trademark triangular hallways in a few scenes.
Pretty much only used the Xeno, and the androids look nothing like the actual ones from the films. They're supposed to resemble humans with human features, not just pale, bland, feautureless humanoid robots.
That's my biggest problems with it. Had virtually no depth other than "do this and hide from xeno/humans when appropriate". That, and the amount of bugs/glitches within the game. Felt pretty unpolished.
This too.

what trash cinematography too

Why doesn't this exist?

Shouldn't his sword have been destroyed?
I though they established the preds have some kind of super alloy not found on earth in 2.

I really hate the "9 billion folds super weapon" meme.

Is it so dark to hide a crappy predator costume or because they thought it would be "cinematic"

They nailed a lot more of the little details than that.

They're not supposed to be the same. It's a different company that makes cheaper, shittier versions on WY stuff.

Fair enough tbqh

Predators are physically stronger, faster and jump higher than humans.

No way could you best a pred in fucking melee, they are extremely durable.

It's just as retarded as AVP2010 and ACM where you can beat an alien in melee and physically knock it back.

The whole humanity shtick was that we have marines with immense firepower, but physically frail and slow as fuck compared to the other 2 species which basically stalked, hunted and preyed upon the marines which are always on the defensive.

Elaborate
Oh, seriously? That would explain some stuff
To each his own but it was a meh tier game to me

his katana would certainly need repairing since they do dent on hitting bone even if it wasn't that super strong and light weight alloy

I think the director watched some anime and figured he'd have a go and left it as "good enough"

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What about the time Arnie beat one.
Do we just not count that even though it happened in the first Predator movie?

Best Aliens game. Prove me wrong.

A lot of the decals are the same as in the movie, in general it is almost exactly the same art design as the first movie. Rewatch 1 paying careful attention to the little details of the Nostromo and you'll realize it really is exactly the same art design.

Yeah it is rare for people trying to copy the 70s/80s retro futurism to completely nail it like that. I give the devs credit for that at least.

Had good ambient music.

Took incredible ingenuity, improvisation, clever traps and a little bit of luck.

They also re-used the Alien theme.

Oh.
So I guess humans can beat Predators in melee fights. But it only counts when you say so.

I just don't like how the AvP movies made the predator seem even more robust than the alien.

blame aliens tbh

Strategy > Raw fighting
you retard

I think I'm gonna put some music from both Alien Trilogy and Isolation in the mod next version.

Fuck, that could set some killer moods for barely discovering corridors building up to the xeno reveal

Well why wouldn't they be?

Predators are overpowered in the AVP games, just like how they're meant to be.

They are balanced in the fact they suck at fighting more than 1 opponent. The Predator arsenal is designed around 1v1 and methodically changing weapons to suit the situation and enemy.

They're hard to master, and they also come with less quantity than the marines or aliens. And you get more points for killing them in MP. Pred comes with a lot of responsibility and skill cap that most people don't have.

I'm an alienfag actually. The freedom to do whatever the fuck I want, scaling any surface, not feeling any pressure, not needing to worry about weapons, ammo or pickups, etc.

It's fun playing as the alien in AVP games and looking for ways to catch marines off guard or run circles around a shitty pred who spams his shoulder cannon

if by doing what you want you mean serving the queen that is

I meant robust as in physically resistant, not as in harder to kill. It stands to reason, I think, that the predator would be more fragile than the alien, but not as much as humans.

checked and heil'd

I really wish there was something like a dynamic music system in GZDoom

Also reminder that you get to play as a facehugger and chestburster in the alien campaign of AVP 2.

avpunknown.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1455892050

Has the expansion pack and bonus goodies.

It's still retarded how Steam/GoG can't get the rights for AVP 2

The way I see it, the Alien is a fast dicking thief.
The Pred is a warrior tank.
The Marines are wizards, glass cannons.

well predators are also jacked as shit and bred as such, not to mention high on steroids most of the time tbh

they accept challenges from prey they deem worthy but otherwise they'd no sooner dickass you

That works nicely for a game, but not in the lore. Predators don't have bullet resistant chitin, for example.
I actually want to make the predator have only about 190hp (as much as a runner) and then change his AI so that he uses the cloaking device agressively instead, and turns really invisible with it, both to you and npcs. "If it bleeds, we can kill it".
First I need to strike a balance between ammo and monster spawn, though. Also need to change praetorian hp because they're overkill right now.

wait you talking about idea fagging here or are you actually making a gayme? or is it just ss13 codebase

I'm dicking around with a doom mod. check the thread

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doom mod avp styled natural selection clone when?

As soon as modders take their heads out of their asses. I suspect if I posted this version of the mod in the zdoom forums official thread or listed as an addon on moddb that the owner would enter in an autism induced rage state, even though I didn't even change the name of the mod or anything.

AVP for the Atari Jaguar.

reminds me that there was an user making an ss13 mod for doom

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he's still working hard

I'm really curious to see how this shit will work

Fool.

Why the fuck do people keep adding all kinds of extra appendages that mess up with the silhouette?