Would another gaming crash "fix" the gaming industry, albeit only temporarily?

Lots of conflict in your statement.

No the only way to fix the industry is to completely ban vidya.

No brother, it must be crashed with no survivors!

No, a gaming crash would lead to opportunistic leeches currently being at the teat of the gaming industry being able to actually climb to the top.
You're a fucking faggot for not understanding this and fuck you for being the kind of fag who is actively pushing for the environment for nongame shit to because marketably viable.

Don't reply to redditors

"Muh industry crash" is on the same level as "muh communism has never been tried"

What replaces the industry you claim to hate would horrify you beyond your imagining.

The crash is equivalent to DOTR
Lurk more you insufferable faggot

wouldn't game crash = loss of consumer confidence in good entertainment = no one buying games perod? The walking simulatores are already not very profitable, and if they were to climb at the top of industry positions during a crash, would they not be worth dirt at that point?

lessons were learned in the 1984 crash unlike communism. it's why you have to deliberately look for most shovelware now (XBLA indie section).

That would be a shit thing too you insufferable faggot.

No, it's so shit even a crash would only make things worse or have no effect at all.
You can thank marketing or internet video game communities in general.
The hardest, although maybe the only possible way to save it would be convincing everyone to vote with their wallets, and a big step for that would be getting rid of yiddish 'mystery trades' like preordering.

They did this shit with VR too you fucking retard.
And Steam in general.

if deviantart crashed, would bad art die?

A full-blown crash, like what happened with atari, would make things worse than they already are.
HOWEVER
A burst of the AAA and indie bubbles would do quite a lot to help rid games of their endemic cancer (distinct from the political cancers of socjus, etc.)

The "crash" would have to be gaming returning to a negative light in regular society, something only done by children and undesirables. This would either shift companies to making games for the niche market, or force them into different avenues of media. It would also kill most attempts at entering the industry for profit, returning to the good days of making games out of passion.

Oh so it's never going to happen and fat losers are going to masturbate over it?

good, let the fear flow thick and the horrors walk the earth, for this ride will never end.

To fix vidya would require the death of all big vidya companies' execs and SJW developpers.

Daddy Orgasms The Rapist?

Nah, it would just drive away normalfags and big corporations. When they're almost fully gone, it can go back to being hobbyism.

only a gaming genocide would fix it

Yeah, which flooded the market with glorified tech demos. VR itself is basically a niche interest at this point until unless more actual games come out, and the desire for the tech is gradually decreasing until then. not a good example.
Irregardless of Greenlight, which is being phased out as we speak, To the fresh user (No Curators, Just registered), Most content shown on the front page is AAA Titles minus the occasional simulator & indie. couple that with the ability to refund if you're not satisfied in a two month period at most. You're whole prediction already happened with comics as well, and the big two are having financial trouble last I checked, even though they continue to repeatedly double down.

only if it crashes so hard that EA, micro$oft, sony, nintendo, and actiblizz go bankrupt
then if the new devs that come around decide to make games that are actually good instead of just pandering to status-signalling hipsters who buy the game then don't play it to start themselves up, then it'd get fixed… temporarily

How much overlap is there between the mobile gaming market and the normal one?

Seems like they live in their own little world of shit.

Forgot zenimax.

No, and the people who think it will are stupid. There are still good vidya being made, but they get overshadowed by the shit ones. They honestly think that a crash would mean a return of good vidya when in reality its like saying the solution to obesity is a heavy famine.

It's a solution.

But you see, a heavy famine wouldn't just change the state of the people, it would create a new normal. Which is exactly what crashfags want, which is exactly why you don't get it.

Jews infiltrated it firmly, thus it cannot be salvaged.

Jews didn't infiltrate sony. No need to

There is nothing to fix.

Heavy famine would cause mass death in those who aren't members of the party, just like communism did. So, crashfags want EA, Microsoft, Konami and actblizzard to have a near monopoly?

They don't already?

Not really, although normalfags do make it really possible in a near future. Not to mention non-SJW or non-scamming indies are near extinction

YES
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Continuing this weird allegory, the idea is that a crash effects the ones on top more than the ones on the bottom since they have more to lose from decreased normalfag interest than obscure developers, who have a devoted niche audience crash or no crash. The AAA devs close up shop due to lack of mass appeal and interest, and their normalfag-centered concepts of paywalls and other trash dry up, thus killing their model; underground stuff made by small teams of passionate developers sell regardless of mainstream popularity, thus instilling that as the new normal for what a videogame is. A crash would serve to bring more complicated, detailed, niche, and intricate games to the fore, while mass appeal garbage no longer has an audience.

As someone that lived through the first crash I can tell you the conditions for another crash will never happen again.
When the first crash happened many people weren't sure if vidya was just a fad so when people refused to buy trash many suits that knew nothing of vidya had no idea if it was because a fad was over.
Now it's clear that vidya isn't a fad and if a game doesn't sell it isn't assumed that it's because people aren't interested in vidya anymore.

Don't get me wrong, I'm sure it's only a matter of time until some $500m budget game fails to get $5m in sales and this may scare many suits into selling publisher stocks crashing the market value of many AAA publishers, the difference is that when that happens it's going to be viewed as a change in the markets taste rather than the market ceasing to exist.

The only way to fix videogames would be to make them yourselves. But even then, you will never be able to change the eternal normalfag, which is one of the main factors for the decline of anything.

the best way to genocide normalfags is to kill all the shitskins and make sure survivors will never have access to vidya.
notice how as more shitskins come to the developed world. the more we dumbdown games to their beaner sub iqs.
it's why you got so many niggers and spics in "RPGs" and sports games, but they can't even touch real sports games, stradegy games, simulators or actual RPGs.

Like, just stop buying pure shit, guys. Stop going to gaming media. Stay away from hype trains.

It's that simple. You can game away happily without being part of a 'scene' that's marketed toward 12yo boys.

I see no problem with this.

Hence, the burst of a bubble instead of a full industry crash.
Niggers here don't get that the crash wasn't just "vidya became niche," it effectively fucking ceased to exist.

Someone should do something like this but for vidya

Youre just jealous that someone is making more money and fame than you

No. If you just wait for consoles to die out things will begin to improve from there. The first crash only hit the USA anyway so it was hardly responsible for 'fixing' the industry worldwide.

No. Companies have already seen how much money they can make from season passes/pre-order bonuses/day one dlc/f2p. Even on some miracle chance that the highest money making entertainment media somehow crashed, they'd quickly go back to their old ways.

Got enough air in that there bubble you absolute faggots?

Make it fucking happen.

Hilarious because how false it is. PC was chugging along happily.

Tbh the industry might not need to crash. People are waking up and good games are being churned out/ported/remastered
At the very least companies are giving pandering to the older crowds more of a chance than they've done in a long time.
Etc.

A vidya crash would completely purge the indie scene of SJW shit. Big publishes will take a huge hit. Sony/MS would likely either greatly downsize or completely destroy their gaming divisions. Nintendo will survive to to retarded fanboys.

The only way I could see that even remotely possibly happen would be when the "Nerdy XDXDXD" fad finally fucking dies. Which will likely last a few more years before normalfags get sick of it due to extreme saturation.

Movies and comics too

Yeah.

This is never going to happened. The Video Games Industry is around the world and have the most income of any industry. No crash could damage them enough to burn their ship down. Than you have the usefull idioty who preOrder any shit that is hyped my the media or shilled by PR user in a forum. These usefull idiots are too many and if you know how to exploit them you can get rich. And at the end you have different region who operate without being dependent on each other, see when the gaming industry in the west burns down it will not affect in any kind the japaness market. The only thing you can hope for is a little crash, in a specific region. Wake up the usefull idiots and it will happen. But only for a short time, depending on how much money was lost.

yes

it would force everyone to rethink and not be such homogeneous literal faggots next time

TBH I think that Kikestarter crashing would be a net boon while being less risky to vidya as a whole.

Instead of a crash, splintering may be better for the industry.
The normalfag market is so big - making money for the suits - and it isn't going to go away so they'll keep churning out shit for profit.
Effectively there's room for a secondary industry, concentrating on making decent content, aimed at core gamers. There's money to be made in that - just not as much - so it's still viable commercially.
The difference is the time it takes and the integrity of the devs doing it - driven by their own passion and not under the thumb of some board of suits. Of course the big boys like to think they can buy out anyone smaller who produce something successful, which is where the integrity needs to come in. Basically respond to those offers with 'Fuck off.'
It would take more seasoned devs - or at least independently minded - to do that. Newbie devs having money thrown at them think they've hit the jackpot and sell out straight away, whether they end up continuing to work on their game for their new boss or not.
Another thing nowadays is that everyone and his dog who owns a laptop thinks they can make a game, since Make-Your-Own-Walking-Sim takes far less time to learn than say, Unity. Throw in the socjus zombies who gotta push that Narrative - cos some sponsored studies said 'people are influenced by games' and you end up with places like Steam being overrun with dross.
More competition to Steam wouldn't be a bad thing either - especially dedicated sites for core gamers, without all the oversaturation and play-on-your-mobile stuff. The market is big enough to handle all that, though the suits won't go that route cos they want minimum risk/maximum return - thinking of sales as 'number of units', not games or content. It would take dedicated medium/smaller devs to do it.
The support from core gamers, including financially, is there for such to happen - it was those gamers who grew the industry in the first place.

Bump, I am not done with this thread, there is still discussion to be had here, this is a pretty good thread and I am writing out an autistic post that I am going to finish later.

Its like Deus Ex. The blackout ending sounds good in theory, but it really just delays the inevitable and soon enough you'll be in the exact same situation. The correct solution is to kill the executives, take direct control of the industry, and fuse with an omnipotent AI.

no thats retarded. it would just consolidate shit

This is something I've always said should happen. It exists in a ton of other industries. For example, Porsche isn't trying to sell to people who normally buy something like a Mazda 3. They're selling to people who take driving more seriously. In the same way, it's perfectly possible for the video game industry to split between the AAA for normalfags and a smaller industry for people who actually enjoy games. The only reason this will never happen is because everyone wants the CoD audience.

i think that will be up to "gamers"i really hate this term to create. and even then, ea and the bunch are going to attempt to muscle in on it

SJWs removed from vidya would have us see major improvements.

obviously it would not.
you still get the same nerds and faggots making the games. Games have always been filled with faggots and liberals, issue is that they knew to shut the fuck up about it, but now are encouraged to talk about it. Dev's are more concerned with trivial matters rather than larger issues, such as we see with games such as that new shitty Mass Effect game that killed the series. Nearly every oldfag in games from the golden age has become a fucking moron that doesn't know that the audience doesn't give a fuck about them. Every game company has alienated their audience and casualified games as a whole. You want to point a finger at anything it's these fucking man children who made it normal to like childish bullshit, like Mario, Zelda, Star Wars, and any other number of child oriented media. Games were mainly for children until Sony came onto the scene and PC solidified itself. Nothing will save games at this point because everyone buys games at this point. Everything about games is fucking shit, from the ads to the games to even the goddamn reviewers.

Even Nintendo has been infiltrated by kikes, are you reatarded?

Your idea is actually something I've been contemplating. I'm a game dev who grew up when video games were ripe, fun, and plentiful. And then once I get to the stage where I can be a full time dev, the industry turns to shit. I feel like this is probably a good time to do something like rebooting the industry and splitting off.

Either things will be profitable and thus exploited or not profitable and leave only trash. Video games are a commodity, not a necessity. People will stop buying them and cause a "crash" when they don't have spare money to spend.

This.
What we need to save video games is not an industrial crash but a cultural crash. Video game needs to become niche again so that the companies cannot get away with being mediocre. As it is right now, you can make a sub-par game and attain quite a success with it as long as you have connection and PR funding. This coupled with normalfags buying absolutely anything even if it's shovelware in doves even at 1 bucks per game because it's "bargain bin" thanks to Steam sales, helps even the shittiest piece of shit have a chance at turning in profit. Look at Bad Rats, 500.000 people bought that piece of shit at a buck each because it's a fucking meme. Nobody gives a shit how much impact it made on the company that made it and on the industry.
tl;dr cultural crash > industrial crash. Kick normalfags out from vidya is the only way to save it.

The current industry is lost. The best thing to do is start a new one.

that's not how industry works

How do you think the video game industry started?

industry refers to everything within a sector of enterprise. You can't create a new industry for games because that hypothetical industry exists within that industry.

Why the fuck does nobody understand how the crash worked?
The 1983 Crash 1.) Only affected the home console market and 2.) only affected North America. Arcades were still fine, Home Computers still thrived, and the console market remained unaffected outside of North America

A crash cannot and will not happen to all aspects of the game industry, because games are an entertainment medium, not an entire industry in itself. If a market segment faults then others like mobileshit will still thrive. Because that's how this shit fucking worked

where do you honestly think we are?

Commercialized gaming exists.

A new crash would do what? Keep Steam going as usual? Make literally no difference because all games from all over the world are online? Be useless because PC isn't a centralized platform as are consoles?

wew lads
If you long for a "crash" you're retards

agreed, gaming should be a community industry

It has the potential to. With the failure of large corps and the gaming crash, those corps would leave and move to another profitable industry. On top of that, the shitty indie sjw devs that are trying to co opt gaming for their ideology or money, would die out, and it's doubtful they'd stick around during the hard times when they've no love for the industry. This leaves those that actually love developing vidya keeping at it, even if as a side project while working elsewhere. It could potentially lead to great gains in vidya again.

As for all the "people" claiming that it'd just ruin gaming forever. The golden era of gaming came after the crash during the PS1 era when a good deal of the leeches and parasites moved to another corpse to defile.

Also, keep in mind, the people trying to convince you that a gaming crash would be bad are most likely shills, and/or /leftyniggers/ who want to keep the status quo of the sjw media and further corruption of vidya. On top of that keep in mind the retards worship stalin, nuff said.

Did someone say new devs?

No it would not. As I see it, the issues with western vidya industry are essentially mere symptoms of a deeper issues.

Is it just a mere coincidence that as western countries are going down the toilet that the quality of video games produced in west is degrading as well?

the problem is technology has stagnated. won't matter when the crash finally destroys everything. there is no affordable way to bring in a new age gaming machine.

Sauce on this doujin?

Underrated post. Once big companies start realising that they can't milk gamers fucking hate using that term but it will suffice in this instance for their money anymore, they'll either move on to another industry or start satisfying their new interests.

I think that as long as the crash does something similar to the crash brought about by the E.T game, when people realised that the games they were playing were actually shit so the devs had to try harder to captivate their attention again, it would really work.. But if the normalfags don't change but the companies do, then I really doubt anything would really change because things would just gradually return to the way they are now.. I mean, they would anyway at some point because there is always new people coming onto the scene who haven't played these older games and the cycle would just repeat itself in that way.

But if games start to come out that are AAA that are so fucking bad that even normalfags hate it some people still liked andromeda somehow.. Probably because of the fanservice or the franchise or the pandering And actively go out to seek games not ruined by people who don't know what the fuck they are doing/too much publisher involvement, then we may have a chance, for at least under a decade anyway.

Found it:
exhentai.org/g/469858/9ee304c4bc/

Remove the barriers to entry.
Make development tools cheaper.

Make it so every tom , dick & harry can make their game, market it and get fair attention without having to kiss the ring and you'll notice quality shoot up.

Until then, we have to "enjoy" shitty indie games that for some reason get more attention than great indie games.

Development is already cheap, every gaming PC is a low end dev workstation. Better games have been made for less money even in a time when you actually had to buy specialized hardware. Modern day vidya budgets are all bloat and money laundering.

This is why video games are shit and will remain shit. You're coming back to AAA like a beaten wife as soon as they pretend to give a shit again, offering you turds that could be made for a fraction of what they charge for them, pocketing the difference.
They'll keep floating right above the "good enough to sell" line and not an inch higher because that would require them to sacrifice profit.
You think marketers don't read forums? They know you're desperate for a renaissance of vidya, and they'll pounce on any chance to subvert it and herd you back to their camp.

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It will likely affect one platform only, console, mobile, PC.
And when it does happen, I think it'll be like what happened to PC in the mid 2000s.

So, if the gaming industry as we're familiar with did crash.

/thread

Why are you here, then, if you hate games?

it would be extremely painful.

Most if not all of them are one-trick ponies, so whether their game does badly or does well, they fold soon after anyway. Most of them use methods rather than direct sales to raise money to make their games. They aren't PART OF the "video game industry" any more than that Mexican dude on the street corner selling the avocados that grow on his own property is part of the "agricultural industry".

If there is a crash, there will be nothing left EXCEPT indie developers! Right now the only thing pushing back against the "SJW shit" are the few old farts heading up the AAA companies that still want to cling to the old ways. Oh sure, they might throw in a token "minority" character or two into their games, but it won't affect the narrative at all and ISN'T the reason the game will suck. Ryder wasn't intentionally written to be autistic; he/she was just written very, very badly.

But if they go, all you're going to get is games where every character is NOT a normal heterosexual white male. You might get a "token white guy" thrown in sometimes. Maybe.

This guy

I think you're forgetting how many autistic indie devs exist out there. There are some truly uncucked gems.

Such as?

He was saying Sony was always kikes, dumbass.