Can someone explain it to me?

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I remember instances of cutscene violence being controversial, though.
Remember when people threw a shitfit over the terrorist attack scene in MW3? Where you can't even see the girl get killed?
Yet, I heard crickets for Sarah's death scene which is shown in its full glory.
It baffles me.

…and he was a good friend.

I bought my copy of Rorona Plus physically just for that Rating on the box.

lmao it was supposed to be a dramatic movie scene since what's-his-face loses his 1st daughter literally to sad violin and after 5 minutes of player knowing her.
It's a shitty scene to a shitty tv garbage. If you want to kill kids, on screen, quite brutally, go play Fallouts and Deus Ex.

If so, the devs are retarded. They fell assbackwards into a good meta ending, when they made shit endings on purpose, when they could have salvaged their reputation a bit.

nobody cares about that because the graphics are so dated the kids look like deformed munchkins

Shit, I always forget this one.
This really sucked.

Kids are deformed munchkins.

That was manufactured outrage. IW knew that the whole airport controversy boosted the popularity and sales of the game immensely so they tried to include something even more controversial the second time around

scuse me, lad?

still doesn't explain why that is outrageous but seeing a little girl bleed and choke to death is "artsy"

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Because she's not that much of a kid, she's what, 13/14? I've yet to see this kind of scene with a toddler

old enough to fuck, old enough to die

I would argue that, in this scene, her death is implied. You did not see the bullets actually penetrate her skin in a graphic and detailed manner. You saw a soldier point a gun in their general direction, then you heard gunshots, with accompanying muzzle flash, and then the two of them fell over. Her body was obscured in that scene, and there was very little light, so there's not much detail in what happens. I think this is important to point out, because there's a stark contrast between watching a very quick death that is devoid of any of the chilling details, and witnessing raw footage of gross and shocking material, in which a person is graphically tortured. I mean, consider actual footage of murder victims. What would you rather watch; someone getting a quick bullet to the head, or someone being gang raped, beaten, mutilated, and generally put through hell before they're burnt alive or subject to some other painful death? Yeah, there are some people who are into the "shock porn" but corporations that have to appeal to certain sensibilities aren't going to appeal to them, ergo they will do everything to use visual implication in virtually every scene.

Shitposting aside that probably was the reason. It wasn't interactive like in an action game so the player was removed from it.

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nigga are you serious?
and even then, that's really fucking pedantic. oh we didn't see the bullets penetrate. we still saw a 12 year old girl get gunned down on screen, for crying out loud.

watching enough videos will tell you you have to be pretty damn young not to be able to fuck

(you) didn't read my post thoroughly, did you? You saw a implied death, you didn't see an ISIS-tier beheading or a fucking point blank execution.

What is your point, friend?

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you didn't even read your own post, you contradicted yourself.

and then you went on some tangent about gore for no reason, that's not even what this is about really. Some people are inhuman monsters, yeah

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I've seen toddlers take a dick as good as any woman

Witcher 3 didn't show kids dying but there were child corpses all around. I appreciated it.

woman?
that's the word for a girl who's no longer prime breeding material

I'm even less sure if that counts.
Could be a loophole, but then again all those zombie games purposefully avoided it, when there should be tons of dumb dead kids lying around

You're a retard. However, I have a burning desire to explain to you why you're a retard. This is the internet, after all. So, with that in mind, I will meticulously scour this shit thread in order to point out what you're doing and how you misrepresent my words.
You say that a lot of games "skirt around it or only imply it."
I respond by saying that her death is implied, because it's not actually directly seen by the audience. The camera is positioned behind the main character's back, it's generally a dimly lit setting, you don't see a graphic depiction of blood or bullets; it's all implied, like in sex scenes where you see the bare torso, with maybe some side-boob, but no nipple. The point about gore isn't a tangent, the point is that there's a stark contrast between implied death and graphic scenes of violence, like the kind that you see in shock videos, and that even when you consider raw footage of actual death, it is generally easier for people to watch someone receive a quick and merciful death than it is to see someone be tortured, and it is this contrast that can inform how scenes of death are depicted in popular media

Now, I know you're baiting, so I'm done.

What's wrong with children dying?
There was a poll recently made by a newspaper asking: would you kill a baby Hitler? And 40% replies as: yes.
Welcome to 2017, where killing babies is ok when justifiable.

okay, idiot

most those those faggots wouldn't have the guts, and you know it

yeah right

That's cause everyone forgets that game, which pisses me off cause I love Mad Max, car games and the game was ok when you weren't fighting on foot

So it pisses me off more they didn't even make DLC, which is a sad thought, cause there's a "dlc" option in the main menu. They dropped out so hard after release they didn't even finish whatever they were already planning to shill, none the less release an update. Last the game was pretty solid from what I remember so it wasn't like it was completely unplayable when they abandoned it.

Is it sad I kind of just want a post apocalyptic game with cars and some light survival mechanics that's good? Not the ones where it's pretty much a racing game with guns, but being a vehicle, even a frame with an engine to be able to go far enough to find supplies, maybe eventually finding enough armor and a bit of ammo so that you an go from scavenging like a rat to raiding or chasing down others. Gas scarce enough you need to gauge if it's worth it to try and out run or try and put up a fight in the hope they only have the gas chase others down but not the ammo to be a legit threat.

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they fucked up real hard at the end

what's your point?

What if the baby is armed and strikes first?

Would you kill a baby Anita Sarkeesian?

Worse.
I'd take responsibility and teach her to love and embrace vidya all around instead of what she is today

That sound Beautiful user

As the other user said that was manufactured outrage, like remember the ad for Dead Island? That had a lot of media attention too.

The thing is most media won't cover something like The Last of Us Ending because that takes way too long to get to the end of it and it's not even really as gory and without purpose as say Postal 2. Even though it's a bit in your face The Player isn't dismembering her. It's on par with 2B strangling 9S in Nier Automata

The whole industry is corrupt and nepotistic. The good goy cinematic experience games that are beloved by all journos get a free pass from the ESRB to do whatever they want, but the gook games must be censored and butchered, out of fear that some 10 year old might see a navel and become a serial killer.

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It's allowed if it's a pretentious QTE game or you have friends in the industry. In Tekken 7 you throw a child into a fucking volcano via QTE. If you were actually allowed to do that in a way that's fun then it would be censored. game's still sick though

It's ok for story cut scenes, it's not ok when it's gameplay. Also, context.

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I know they're a little crazy on the sex innuendos but that shit's still dumb.

there'd be no point. You kill her and another idiot would do the same thing she did. It'd be better slap her parents in the face for not being assertive and/or caring enough to actually be disproving of the choices she made.

Because let's face it, aside from the "consolation trophy" shit the blame also lies with the parents.

To be fair Kazuya doesn't die.

If you're popular, you can claim "artistic vision". That's how Salo tends to get a free pass for all the shit it got up to, pun intended. If you're unknown, you can do anything so long as no one cares enough to check. Anyone remember the kids getting murdered in Prey? They weren't originally going to look like ghosts, that was them getting spooked they'd get in trouble. They still left in the first two, though.

Would you feed her daddy's cummies?

This, if its a kid dying in a game they dont like you better believe there is going to be a shitstorm.

1. Because they're naughty dog
ND has been in the game long enough that they can get away with just about anything and get praised by it, and since the pre-release hype for TLOU was mostly about "muh deep story" when the press got their hands on the game and saw the little kid die, they knew it was supposed to be heavy hitting, because they were told that, and wrote it down accordingly

2. the scene was handled somewhat well
Compared to a lot of moments in that game, that was one of the less heavyhanded ones

3. game media is desperate to be mature
this sorta goes back to the first point, since TLOU presented itself with a serious tone, journos who are desperate to be viewed as big wise adults at it up even more. these fucking animals will go on for months about how they're so above anime titties in a game but i bet if you had two characters suckin each others dicks in black and white with some acoustic guitar notes playing randomly in the background they would lose their fucking minds at how they think thats apex storytelling

All pedos will hang.

The irony is seemingly lost on you.

There is nothing edgy about killing pedos

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In original Prey and Painkiller you went around gunning down demonic alien children and no one gave a flying fuck.

I remember there being at least some controversy about prey though

look, you can say it's disgusting, but pointing out a fact isn't edgy

it's the intro of the game, dude. The hell you on about?

don't. fucking. remind me.

also, they got censored because of that ad, no dead kids or zombie kids in the game at all. I think there's even one girl that was clearly supposed to be a child but they used an adult/teen model for it

I've heard of even worse monsters that had kids skin wrapped around them or something that was cut out, never seen concept art or any proof though

prey also censored itself since the ghosts were supposed to be tangible, and there were supposed to be flayed children, etc

over the hill

That only comes off as edgy because they idiotically gave the protag no reaction to just seeing two kids brutally killed

the whole rating system thing is an excuse the hacks use to self censor and nothing else.

There's a difference between children dying in cutscenes and killing them during gameplay. One always adds a negative spin to children dying, and the other is the player having fun by way of killing obnoxious midgets.

What bothered me the most was the way they got rid of everything the game added so they didn't fuck with the plot.
It's like the shit Injustice pulled with alternate worlds, so they could retcon everything that happened if they wanted to.

yeah, fuck with the plot
never mind that Scrotus is never mentioned in the movie. you'd think Joe would have mentioned that Max killed one of his sons
Never mind that the girl Glory looks completely different in the movie and was also shown dying totally differently (she also dies differently in the comic tie-in. That's three different little girl deaths for the price of one.)

To be fair, it's an ending in two of the routes

explain

I think I'm mistaken. I'm talking about Nier Automata. I never played The Last of Us. Is her dying an intro to the game and I'm mistaken?

Yes. The intro of The Last of Us is Joel's daughter getting killed by the military during the first day(s) of the outbreak, then a huge timeskip to the Cliche Zombie Apocalypse Era.

Oh well then I'm retarded about the first statement of journos not playing long enough. Sorry

The word you're looking for is moral.

you'd have to hang the entire european continent

how do you kill off a child and not make it heavy handed?

Like this.

Europe isn't fully filled with muslims yet. Just give it time, goy.

by having it fit the tone, in this case the death of joels child was a large factor into how he acts throughout the game so i will give the credit that within context of TLOU it worked

don't think i'm necessarily defending the game though, Joel becoming a broken man being bent on just surviving and doing fucked up shit like he implies would be a lot more interesting than listening to ellie talk for 8 hours

I've always thought the same thing. You could have also saved it by making Ellie much younger somewhere between 5 to 8 years old or maybe by just making Ellie the sole, and mostly silent, player character. I would still drop her age to 10 to 12 even in that case.
This is completely aside from how they squandered the mushroom apocalypse scenario.

they were making movies with full frontal child nudity and legal cp magazines in the 70s, long before any mudshits took over

so nice try, europoor. their karma was sealed long ago

also not make her distractingly resemble Ellen Page, which sucks your right out of the game.
that would be nice.

Walking Dead season 1 did this well, so I agree with you.
Also change her so she doesn't distractingly resemble Ellen Page, which sucks your ass right out of the game.
That would be nice.

*anglos

last of us is the citizen kane of videogames, it can do whatever it wants.

Have you played Prey?

Why would you attempt to massively change history? That shit's dangerous as fuck.

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So guys, which do you prefer if a game is set in a universe where children should be everywhere but your main purpose is to murder everyone in sight?

1) Children just somehow aren't anywhere to be found (like in Destroy All Humans)?

2) Children exist, but are literally unkillable (like Bethesda games)?

Both of them rustle my jimmies HARD, and totally pull me from the immersion. If I had to choose, I'd go with the latter because I'm not very wont to kill children anyway, but it still sticks in the back of my mind: "If I shoot this fucker, he won't die." and that's annoying.

most likely this

again, they put in no reaction when the kid actually gets impaled or if you go to inspect it

que?

The latter.
You know, at least in Bioshock they came up with a bullshit excuse why you can't hurt little sisters. Although it doesn't really explain how harvesting works.

There is nothing bad with murdering kids in videogames, kids or girls showing skin however is grounds for discomfort, rage and mobs carrying pitchforks and torches in the streets

why do people on Holla Forums tell blatant lies?

Because you already get multiple reactions to people dying in horrific ways in front of him before, if a character keeps freaking out the entire game it gets really fucking annoying. But you didnt know that, because you didnt play the game.

I prefer that kids are killable but the game actually ackowledges it and differs from grown people.

Technically, kids are "the future hope" since their parents clearly fucked up but their sons might learn and be better or some shit, therefore being intrinsically more important.
Also, they are mostly defenseless compared to adults. No real strength or agility, they may be smart but as much as an adult, etc. It'd be ethically and morally wrong to kill them on the same grounds as killing an unarmed man or playing in Easy Mode, I guess.

So have the game acknowledge this and NPCs do try to protect kids. For instance, let's say you're playing Skyrim because you have a mountain fetish. You enter a town and start doing the sensible thing, ending everyone's lives like you're Alduin yourself. Everyone starts running except for the guards that try to stop you, but the moment you hit a single kid, every single adult grabs a weapon and rushes against you, at the very least their parents.
Kids would still try to run away with maybe some exceptions for close friends.

Fallout 1&2 kinda did this alright since you can kill kids (and they are fucking little shits too) but the game brands you an outcast that can't visit any town. An interesting take on it.

Dying Light: The Following

You'd think that by now, with all the advances in digital distribution more devs would be willing to take more risks when it comes to content.

A lot of the gaming population is adult, so for example, why are game devs so afraid of including this like a pair of tits,or torture scenes, or as OP said, killing children?.
At worst they might get an adults only rating from the ESRB, and maybe even some polemic press, but if you design an adult's game as an adult's game, instead of something that you also hope to sell to edgy teenagers, then you shouldn't have issues with that.

seeing children die is infinitely worse than anything else

I will forever be baffled that the Ellie model has pubes but most adult models don't

Yep, well said.