How many here are actively engaged in revolutionary activities

How many here are actively engaged in revolutionary activities.

What are you doing?

How do you intend for it to progress?

Where do you see it ending up?

Hardmode: Shitposting is not a revolutionary activity

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In all honesty my career choice even if it is hardly revolutionary. Emergency psychiatry is, where I can at least save someone from the depths Capitalism can sink someone into. One prevented suicide because of bankruptcy, because of failure to fit in because of naivety of youth translating into unemployability, helping those who cannot help themselves.

I feel like if I can't shoot a gun, if I can't rob a bank, if I can't give the people what they need and help, I can at the very least offer my duty to serve, as much as I can, to ease the suffering those who know nothing but the worst of agonies of capitalism's failed dream. Heroin addicts maybe.

Perhaps, I won't be able to save someone, someone I invested in and cared about, and how I will deal with knowing I could have done more. How I'll respond that day, when the inevitable happens

Is something I still cannot answer to myself. I don't think anybody is ready for that responsibility. And yet I chose it. Out of self sacrifice for myself, to be to the best of my ability, maternal to those who need that warmth most.

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Fair enough. I've needed mental health services before. I imagine maybe half or more of this board have at least considered them at some point.

What about outside of that though? Part of any groups? Anything like that?

I'm not really in anything radical at the moment, though I plan to soon. I'm just, really cynical to what they can provide for my patients.

So, as far as I'm concerned, I will join up with anyone who can 100% guarentee the safety of whatever patients I have to care for that our current system doesn't. The political branch, even if I'm an anarchist, extends into the workplace for me. I don't have a choice but to support whoever can fund us more.

So I will get into politics, I just don't exactly know who could even give the help we need at this point.

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I joined an entryist trot party to fuck ugly girls

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I educate friends and family on socialism. Whenever people complain about something I explain how the problem is rooted in the economic model, and I vocally support and validate their complaints. I occasionally hang out with and discuss with the local ML- party. Getting a job soon, hope I'll be able to reach out to more people. Hardly anything to celebrate, but it's something…

>Gook Anfem is the diet-Doomed Man
you actually made me feel.

You're not half bad, Anfem. Sorry for bullying you.

I dont pay taxes as much as I can. I give my students anarchist texts

Like 1 or 2 layers fam im sorry

How would you feel about being funded by a network of co-operatives instead of a state or private institution?

How is that working out? Girls and communism? I steered clear of my local trots but there is virtually no anarchist presence so I keep being tempted.

Where do you see it progressing? Do you see these Trots securing the revolution?


I didn't say it wasn't, just that it wasn't in hard mode. Jeez of course it is.

Have you ever considered being part of organised leftist activity?

Whatever frees the working people of their collective stress of the weakness of their financial security, worthlessness of their labor, and the funding I need to work my labor the best to my ability.

Cooperatives sound revolutionary, which is the problem. I have to pinch my nose sometimes and consider getting into the cluster fuck of American politics, and join up with communist organizations, but, I don't want that to effect my employability either

I mostly stick to myself because I want to make the right choice if I'm going to act, since I have to keep in mind whatever I support has to support a better mental health care system in America.

I politely yet firmly disagree.

trip came off.

I wouldn't even know what to do in this country (the Netherlands) to further the interests of revolutionary socialism, considering it's small, weak, super liberal, and basically an economic appendage of its big brother to the east. I almost feel like I'd be better off immigrating to Germany and helping out there, as I legitimately believe only a German revolution could ever save the Netherlands.

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het beste wat ik kan doen is grafitti spuiten

Talking about Egoism with friend

They drop race, nationality, religion and more

Union of shitposting

Who the fuck do you think you are?

Yes, but it'll have to wait because I'll move sometime the next 3 months. Also, these orgs are riddled with liberal idpolers, edgy faggots, larpers, and soviet nostalgiacs. :/

I've been thinking about checking out worker representation stuff at my future workplace. Also I mostly apply for jobs in social security depts, in order to meet and talk with truly struggling workers, though I expect to see in others and experience for myself lots of alienation.

Well if you were being funded by a network of co-operatives it would be free. Maybe you should start pushing for such a network.

I agree that politics is a clusterfuck. So working outside of the system is better. There is no need for a co-operative to look bad on your CV? Why would it?


I already covered this. Its hard mode. It isn't true, its just hard mode.

Disparate left all over Europe seems to be a problem. have you ever considered creating your own revolutionary group?


This is good. Are you part of any groups or anything like that?

ITS FUCKING HARD MODE GOD DAMN IT

You're right, I'm just being careful because you know, who knows what might happen in America by the time I graduate since I'm aiming high for my degree, not just getting off with a masters.

Might take a while.

I don't want to be taken away from my purpose in life.

See this is why I think we need a completely new left. Something a lot more like


But we need to synthesise the revolutionary and the reformist. Worker representation and workplace democracy are a great management principle, but a poor revolution by themselves.

I think there needs to be some sort of group, completely outside of the current left miasma, which turns workplace democracy into a revolutionary rather than reformist course.


Sure and its definitely a good ambition. I might now be dead without head people. But do you walk around all day thinking everything should be different? Like in everything you see there is some kind of corruption and you know it doesn't have to be like that?

What if you diversified your dreams. What if you were Hoochie Minh PHD but also Hoochie Minh Activist at the same time?

Like Chomsky?

I don't want it to be like that, I just am also aware any return of the radical, civil rights era left, that will probably come, might come with our new 21st century Joseph McCarthy and with the NSA now? Our own J Edgar

So, I'm, cautious about it.

On one hand I am a staunch anarchist and some days I want to just go full that, on the other, I have a responsibility, a responsibility to my patients who are victims worse than I.

If, what I think might happen, might happen, I don't think it's worth the risk to compromise my career in medicine to these poor innocent people, because if I were to be separated, and never able to be hired again, I would be devastated.

I put myself in such a position where I might compromise direct association with popular party or group, but, at the same time, I am here to help those regardless of how events unfold. If things get sour for the radical left, I am very sure I will be needed to help fellow comrades, who very well may be at that point suicidal.

It's a difficult question I'm still trying to answer, and I really fucking hate this world I even may have to consider this a possibility

I study Economics and Sociology, while reading leftist litterature as to not fall for any memes my micro/macroeconomics teachers want to push down my throat.
I would love to be part of a student union, but my uni is social-democrat at best, full on neoliberal for the most and nationalist (Action Française is really active)
So idk i think i cant do much more in my current situation, maybe ill do a phd in economics and throw out some half decent Theory™ someday

So you have reasons you couldn't take part in activism, but what if you took part in a strictly organisational or recruitment fashion? Or just spreading the word.

There it is again.We need something NEW and REVOLUTIONARY but revolutionary in the sense that it has never been done before, truly revolutionary, not repetitionary


Sorry fam didn't see you. What do you teach? How do you slip the anarchist stuff in?

Agreed… Though it seems like a monumental task.

Is it so monumental though? Sure for 1 person or 2 people. But think about what would actually have to take place for such a movement to come about, its really always just a case of getting the idea out there and talked about in a good light.

As far as I can see it, unless the media REALLY and I mean REALLY heap on the shit it would be difficult for them to smear workplace democracy.

I just don't think its something many people have heard of. Also individual co-op enterprises tend to be fairly inward looking.

I take part in a non organizational part in the left as well, as long as I don't sign anything I'm good.

Putting your name on something, really anything, is a paranoia factor for me, I don't trust the long term potential fuckery going on to be anything but covert about it. Just to be safe.

But outside of that I'm an anarchist so, I'm very vocal about my opinions. Honestly don't have any friends who aren't collectivist to at least some degree

I didn't really finish that. What I mean to say was, all it really takes it getting media attention. All media attention needs is some kind of spectacle. It isn't actually so hard to think up various ways spectacles could be created.

The trick is, creating the spectacle and then linking it back to exactly what you want to do.

I think with a lot of the left right now they just want 'a fairer society' or some such Corbynism.

If we could really shake it up, add something completely new, add real goals and real steps towards them, it could really revitalise a left that seems to be without direction.

The problem with Trotskyism and parliamentaryism is that everything takes so long that its impossible to get passionate about. In a liberal democracy the passion of people is extremely important, because they need to continually vote in the same way often over a 30 year period or more to get something through so this almost never happens.

We need to show people that there is a solution. and there is a solution right now

So you have leftist friends mostly?

I create a coop

They all identify themselves as communist in one form or another

So basically, we need a new fresh left. What if, now this sounds absolutely insane and far fetched, but what if the new left could only come from a place like leftypol, because the new left needs to tone down on the idpol and the reformism, but saying that in IRL leftist circles will get you socially ostracised.

What if it needed to be here, because these organisations are doomed to be forever what they are today.

best answer I could hope for. How is it going?

Do you think you could convince any of them to take part in a fresh form of activism?

Yeah probably.

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Getting the message out there isn't hard, the problem is getting people to really get it, and to let go of much of their prior understanding of society. And people with food in their belly and a roof over their head are loath to take risks. The word "revolution" makes people very uncomfortable.

No, for two reasons:
1) I'm a socially awkward loser who couldn't run anything to save his life.
2) Even if I were Lenin 2.0, making the Netherlands socialist would only cause it to collapse economically because it's a glorified German port. This nation can't do anything beyond servicing the needs of Germany, and its ruling economic system will either match theirs or fail. Also, most of the economy consists of trade and banking so trying to convince people to turn hard left whilst the capitalist system is in place just doesn't make sense.

Can I have your email address? Not kidding. Give me a burner on here and then a real one later? Allow me to talk to you until you at least trust me to do that? I promise I'm not a cop or pervert and I won't ask for any ass pictures that you don't willingly send me of your own free volition.

Which is why we have to frame the revolution in such a way that it does not and will not bring anything crashing down, but will just gently let it evolve into its next form. This is why I talked about synthesising reform and revolution. It needs to be revolutionary reform.

I think its pretty easy to get, worker democracy. It probably appeals to most people on a basic level also.

Convincing people to join your revolutionary group is not making friends with people, its trying to get to join a specific cause. You don't have to explain yourself, just the cause. You might find having this a talking point would also get you over awkwardness.

You sound very defeated user. What if your attitude was like it is because the left HAS been defeated. What if we needed to accept that, move on, and move forward. What if the only thing that could save the left, netherlands, and the world, was a new revolutionary form that is yet to come?

ONLY IN HARD MODE AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Missing the LeftCom flair.

In this day and age, the only way to help a revolution is to pack up and go fight in it. So unless you're posting from Rojava or Naxalite-held territory, you're a LARPer.

I don't believe that. I actually believe the opposite, that in the west the days of picking up a gun and fighting are over.

We need to work with what we have, and that can never realistically include armed conflict on the streets of liberalwestopia

Sure Rojava are the best example of a revolutionary force around, but material conditions mean their doctrine as it is cannot be applied in most of the west.

Normies are on board in Kurdistan because they are getting fucked straight up, there is no bread and circuses making them believe they are not being fucked.

I'm not larping because there is currently not anything to be mimicking because I want to do something new, even if that new thing is a conglomeration of old ideas, I want to present them in a new way.

I have taken it upon myself to try and recruit people to a new revolutionary strategy as you may have seen. I am trying to start a co-op in real life. I am trying to find people to participate in direct action.

I made this thread to gently show people that perhaps there is in fact room for such action in their lives, and perhaps a revolution is actually achievable