Make a horribly generic and uneducated Sci Fi universe that wouldn't be notable at all if it were a book

Can we just take the time to talk about how bad Mass Effects writing is and other badly written games that are considered to be amazingly written by casuals.

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so laughable it's not even worth considering

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..What is there fucking criteria for "best story" here? Because God of War and KotoR can't really be compared, for instance. God of War is a game that is 99% killing Greek Mythology. That's the story. KotoR is about some Jedi shit. KotoR obviously had more attention focused on writing and storytelling, but God of War isn't a game you play for the story in the first place.

Same with shit like comparing Portal 2 to FF7.. Portal 2 is a game that is all about puzzles and your reward/motivator is some silly dialog.

Fucking retarded normalfag scum… Why do they keep doing this shit?

I'm a moron and even I'm not dumb enough to buy into something like that

There are a few real good contenders in the first round, silent hill 2, witcher 2 I liked 3's story better and a few others. Of course most of them lost in that first round and all of them lost in the end because this is literally just a popularity contest.

Fuck off, check my dubs.

you just answered your own question

Actually Ender's Game had this too, but to be fair that came out decades ago.

Gas the normalfags, NEET war now.

Story in video games was a mistake.
You don't need story, you just need context.

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Where is killer 7 on that list?

kek. feels like this should've been said before. why haven't i ever heard it yet

Internet polling which may or may not have had proxy protection, hence the absence of anything resembling high quality videogame storytelling in the semifinals and finals.

But how does one educate a sci fi universe?

oh, its a popularity contest.
youre the retard for taking this seriously and getting assblasted by it

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By educating it's writer so we don't get Generic space Opera # 400000

This whole vote is just a "I recognize this game" contest
Its the only reason you have stuff like fucking Halo on there

Don't question the writing of one of the few genuises left that walk the earth.

OP is one of those retarded autistic fucks that don't understand what popularity is.

The Transformers movies are popular movies but I doubt anyone would call them the greatest movies of all time.

I love OOT but I don't know what the fuck it's doing in a best video game stories poll.

But when you ask the Transformers audience to vote for best movie and offer them Transformers, Raging Bull and The Graduate to vote for…

I mean some of these games have wonderful dialogue or decent humor or even great gameplay/story integration.

But none of these have a really 'Nuanced' story to tell. And is often more of an excuse to get the game rolling in a logical direction.

Come on I can only name like one or two games on this list with a story even worth talking about outside of discussing its many MANY flaws.

Hi Miyamoto.

So you prove that I am absolutely correct. Good. Now delete the thread you piece of trash.

Biodrone Please, calm your cock sucking.

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Well, what does it mean then? I am genuinely curious and never have bothered to look it up.

Also, Halo 2 deserves that win even if it's pretty mediocre.

Anti-Kojima fag please.

maximum pc plebe shit. only goons and faggots who like to pretend it's well written think it's any good. It's shit and has always been shit.

It's Planescape Tournament, you fucking newfag.

what was avellone thinking making a memegame like this

The only people that think the turd sandwich that is ME has good writing are the mouthbreathing faggots that have never opened a book in their lives and Star Trek fans. Them, and the degenerates that fap to gay furry porn and think that shit is acceptable if they do in the guise of ME romanceable characters.

I bet you're a Star Wars cuck.

Yes, it's comparably shit. Star Trek is what Holla Forums masturbates to before they cry themselves to sleep.

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He is sort of right though user, look at what they did to Gol Dukat.

That's Deep Space Nine though, not TOS or TNG, I could easily argue that DSN isn't Roddenberry's original vision. I doubt Holla Forums socialist cucks would be down with a intergalatic federation dominating space, and you know they fucking hate Kirk and probably Picard as well (too white and all that).

They did that because one of the leftist writers was butthurt people actually liked a sensible character instead of a Federation cuckold so they decided to character assassinate him.

Star Trek is trash, always has been. If I wanted to watch communists in space I'd go look up a documentary about the Mir.

I must have missed where the Federation turned over the means of production to the working class.

Reminder that Londo and G'Kar's arcs are ten times more interesting than anything in Star Trek and I like Star Trek.

I've never seen B5, I'll have to give it a look some time.

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You're right. DS9's Bashir and Garak is yet better.

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What is a story?

Shadow of the Collossus story is an effeminate guy tries to save his dead girlfriend, and then she becomes his mother.

I could go on and trek a mountain, have a terrific time and remember the time I climbed a rock but it wouldn't make a great story and yet I would have fond memories of the events.

If this was done today what kinds of games would be in the running? I imagine they'd try to put Undertale and Horizon Zero Dawn up there.

The reddit part is important.

As far as sci-fi settings in vidya, it's pretty good, at least in the first game. Plus we don't get a lot of RPGs set in sci-fi worlds.
ME2 shit all over the lore, though, and ME3 had its own problems.
Also,
Nigger, just say what you think, don't use leddit weasel words.

That pic makes my kokoro hard

Wut

I appreciated how Spec Ops: The Line played with the fourth wall and was a meta-commentary on its own genre. But the story itself wasn't anything special.

That picture is some fucking cancer and a half.

Fuck Gaylo, this was Bungie's finest moment.

I like that it lost to fucking Chrono Trigger.

What kind of people vote in this kind of retarded tournament? Mentally ill forum regulars. This is just reaffirming that retards are retarded.

>No Ghost Trick dat fucking game got me hooked til the very end
>No Stanley Parable the undisputed best walking simulator ever
>No The Dig Even Spilberg wanted to turn that into a movie at one point
>No MGS2 comboluted as the story may be, Kojima deserves an honorary mention for predicting the rise of the SJWs
>Nothing from the Trails in the Sky series best execution of JRPG cliches i've seen so far
worst of it all is that this kind of shit taste doesn't even surpirse me anymore

Well, lets say that quantum mechanics is real and that two atoms can be in more than one place at one time via the double slit experiment. what would happen if you vibrate an atom in one location, and have it vibrate across the galaxy in another location. couldn't you create some machine to interpret those vibrations into electrical signals that the machine could read. that would literally be the fastest method of communication around it would be instant.

I dont know what you are talking about im just posting this info because you have the idea that it would be impossible.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No-communication_theorem

express.co.uk/news/science/659416/Scientists-make-TELEPORTATION-breakthrough-thanks-to-inspiring-Star-Trek

there was an episode in the original series in wich the federation arrives at a planet looking for a missing historian and they find out the whole planet is acting like Nazis
Why?
Because when the historian crash landed there the whole planet was in ruins because of a massive world war, so he used his knowledge adn created an empire that was able to recover the whole planet in the blink of an eye
When Kirk finds him and confronts him on why did he turn all those aliens into Nazis, the historian answers "because they were the most powerfull and efficient empire in the history of mankind" and Spock (who was there at the time) agreed with him citing how Hitler rose Germany into a superpower from the ashes of WW1 in less than 5 years
You may say the federation is a commie organization, but you can't say the makers of the show were blue pilled

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No-teleportation_theorem

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Germany wasn't a superpower.

dont give me some bullshit wiki article saying its impossible based on half assed theories.

I say its possible and that's, THAT. Someone will create this technology and some retard with low understanding of the universe going on about quantum mechanics that isnt even understood yet isn't going to tell me otherwise.

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Some article from a mainstream news site taken in isolation doesn't count for shit against the current consensus of people who actually work in quantum mechanics.
Nobody cares, you're not an expert and your single source is a joke.
Not how science works.

If i say 2+2=5 than 2+2=5, Math is a human language invented by man. it can be changed simply by believing it.

I don't give a shit about the news site. Anything man can think can be invented and created.

No one invents anything, everything is already there someone just hasn't discovered it yet.

And then he gets killed and everybody realizes Nazism is bad.

You are so fucking retarded, holy shit. Math is not a language. You can't throw 2 apples in a basket, then 2 more, then meme your way into having 5. You're conflating the symbol chosen to represent the concept with the concept itself.


Some things are impossible, even in theory. A cube which is also a sphere, for instance.
You have a child's understanding of the universe.

Nazism was in reality retarded. their main source of unity was to hate a group of people. and when they wipe out that people and realize they are not better off than when the original object of hate was there they point to something else. eventually the people that you will go after will be your own people. the nazi's were developing technology to fry people walking in the street from space.

Easy there, Tyler boy

But only girls play games like that

There are 5 apples in the basket.

Nothing is impossible, Man can literally change the fabric of the universe.

Your science is horseshit and the people teaching you is horseshit. they make you believe you cant do anything unless they tell you its ok.

>Every single succesfull unckuked merican worth his stars and stripes boxers praised Hitler and Nazi Gremany

no matter how you kikes try to spin it, the Germans were a superpower
>>>/oven/

Germany was not a superpower, it was a great power. the only super powers of the world were Russia and United states and the united states is currently the only superpower of the world after russia backed off during the cold war.

Math is a language, but yuo're both retarded

No, there aren't. Again, you're confusing the chosen description for the number with the number itself. Just saying "lol 5 means the number that used to be 4," is all well and good, but the actual number of apples is unchanged.


Has never happened. If it were possible to do, some alien would have done it before us, anyway. Why do you think physical laws are static and unchanging? If it were possible to change them at will, whoever got there first would be changing them all the time. There's nothing inherently, cosmically special about humans.

No. You are retarded. I'm as anti-establishment as they come. That doesn't mean I believe in magic cloaked in pseudoscience.


Germany was a great power, not a superpower. Take a course in international relations, and stop being a kneejerking LARPer faggot.

Defend your position.

Germany was powerfull enough to be considered a threat by both Russia and Merica and was actually able to hold them both back for a while
that plus their avility to recover from ruin as fast as they did quealifies them as super power in my book.
I'd like to see Merica and Russia pulling as strong a comeback as Germany's after WW1

"Doing impressive things" is not enough to be a superpower. You have to have enough influence on the world that you can, for example, drastically change other countries' policies just by changing your internal policy. You have to have outsized, disproportionate influence, such that you force many countries to either join your club or go against you.
They both did, after WWII, though I'll admit America's was less impressive given that they were already steadily recovering since the early '40s.. Russia actually pulled one in the late '20s and early '30s, as well, when they industrialized.

Math is subjective , It only means what we agree what it means. If i say 4=5 than 4=5.

it does not matter what you say how many apples are in the basket, I say there are 5 apples in the basket and that you are wrong.

How do you know? If it did how would you know anything changed? its the same principal as time travel.


yet you are still believing establishment when they tell you, something is impossible?
do you believe that man can fly or is that impossible as well?
100 years ago that would also be called impossible but today we would laugh if you said no.


I'm not denying that germany was powerful but the united states has bases in almost every single country.
the soviet union was also spreading its ideology all across the world. the nazi's were only within their own borders, its allies didnt believe in nazism but their own system.

Chrono Trigger is very well "written." It doesn't waste any fucking time and is plotted very well.

How did you figure this shit out? I thought mass effect was reducing everything's weight so it could be flung around easier by conventional means?

Why do people think OoT is better than Link's Awakening?

Well at least in Mass Effect 2 it was extremely experimental and expensive. It was in Mass Effect 3 and Andromeda that it was everywhere, including inside Ryder's head.

To my knowledge, Merica was the big winner of the war, financially speaking, though i could be wrong, Post WW2 Merican history ain't my forte
About Rusia, I know Stalin industrialized it and little more

not any more user

Wrong. Again, you're saying that a thing's description is identical to the thing itself. A lamp that's 5 feet tall will not shorten because you choose to replace the symbol "5" with "4" in your daily use.

Well, in all of recorded history, gravity has always worked, and light has always conferred heat, so if some aliens changed things up, it must have been before we were around. It never happened, and never will.

I'm believing the consensus of people who actually know what they're talking about, rather than some shitposter on a Korean finger painting site. "Establishment" doesn't enter into it. If every plumber you know says that your pipes are leaking, are you going to go on a tirade about how they're conspiring against you, or are you going to check out your pipes?

There's a difference between that and what I'm talking about. The long, slow, inevitable march of technology makes many feats that allows many things that humans didn't conceive of before. But you're taking on a worldview that effectively allows for whatever you want, because you're abandoning rigor and prior knowledge in favor of magic. You're mistaking a well-considered philosophical worldview with technological advancement.

It's no better or no worse than any other of the main Zelda titles (except Skyward Sword). But it was the one that was around when the internet started blooming into sexistance.

Please stop responding to the moron. He's either baiting or so stupid that he believes the things he said. Which is worse is best left unanswered.

You're right about America. The dollar becoming the world's reserve currency, through its use in the rebuilding of Europe, was a huge boon.
You say that like it's not a huge accomplishment. Stalin was a fucker, though, and it probably would have happened with someone else in charge, too, like Trotsky.

You clearly have no understanding of math. math is subjective.
The sooner you understand why math is subjective the better you will understand reality and use your brain for once.

the lamp is not 5 the lamp is 2

gravity is a non existent force. it is not real. gravity is also a "theory" it is not a fact.
You have to be idiotic to believe in the theory of gravity.

How do those plumbers know your pipes are leaking? did they break into your place to check your pipes? or did they burst your pipe and tell you your pipes are leaking.

There is no difference, the only difference is you cant look into the future and see something because you lack imagination and can only follow what others tell you to believe. your sense of reality is based on what others tell you to believe. instead of having a sense of wonder and using your brain you follow what others tell you to believe and you naysay everything. people like you hold back humanity.

That's how I know you're retarded.

Literally a meme. In science, "theory" means a testable model. The word you're thinking of is "hypothesis."
Maybe they used your worldview and just willed it to be, like magic, and changed the fabric of the universe in order to make it so.

Neither can you. I can (and do) speculate and imagine. I read sci-fi books all the time, too. I just don't try to pass off speculation as fact, because I'm not an idiot or a charlatan. A sense of wonder is a valuable thing. But substituting it for knowledge of the real world is abominable.

How do you know Antarctica is a real place, man? You've never been there yourself. Everyone on Earth is untrustworthy and it's literally impossible to have a reasonable picture of reality unless you've replicated all of science from scratch, after all. This is literally what you are implying.

Literally just a popularity contest.


Kojima's gone full SJW, why wouldn't you reject him?

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Followup because I know you're too stupid to get what I'm saying without help:
Here,
I mean that you're not defining what unit (in this case, feet) "2" and "5" describe.

Sauce?

It's great by vidya standards for the genre. That's what people mean when they praise it.

the unit is a language you dumb shit, it is based on what we agree on. math is subjective. just like we agree that the color blue means blue and not red we agree that the unit means something. if i wanted i could totally change the unit and make " = 1mile. what does 69"=

since when did a single scientist on earth test "gravity"
there is not a single person on earth who can come up with proof of gravity, you can't measure it, you can't see it, you cant create it or remove it.

What people call gravity is actually buoyancy, mass, and weight.

obviously not since you believe things are impossible.

I have the idea that if there is enough funding for something it is only a matter of time before it is created. More people need to have this mindset. the problem with our world today is people are taught to naysay everything and think things are impossible. This kind of idea holds back humanity and leaves only the elites with the power and technology.

What makes you believe antarctica is some frozen continent at the south pole? have you done a single bit of research on it?

I have and i believe they are lying about it. look at antarctic cruises and the only place they will take you is to the antarctic peninsula. no where else. every single cruise you find takes you there. the only exception is 1 australian company that takes you just east of it. even science expeditions are only sent to the peninsula, you would think if they were studying antarctica they would go to some other locations but the only place you will find anyone is this peninsula.

This.

Please tell me how to measure gravity, and give me description on how i can see gravity with any device.

She's cosplaying as Wind Waker Link though.

You've done a wonderful job rusing people, please continue.

The pics are unrelated, tard.

My god you're an idiot

today's scientist replaced real science with made up theories that have no relevance to reality.

Isn't pic related how you measure gravity?

In what manner?

Don't engage him you unbearable faggots.

but this is only a theory, how do you actually physically measure gravity and how do you see it?

like this

No, I really want to see what he thinks. I think it'll be funny.

You think you are intelligent but you are actually the dumbest one here, the person arguing with me is at least challenging the idea.

No, it won't. It never is. It's going to be nothing but autistic screeching from the lot of you.

He's baiting so hard though, I was just on the front page and saw the autism and had to investigate.


Nigger wat, that equation holds true for gravity in all situations except approaching the speed of light or things with a mass approaching a black hole. In what way is it wrong?

How do you see air?

How does it hold true? has it ever been measured in reality other than made up mathematics? you can come up with a billion different math explaining non-reality but when you bring that math into reality you find it makes no sense.

where does a black hole come from? its also a made up theory that has never been seen or tested.

you can see air through many methods, you can collect it and turn it into liquid form or dye it. you cant test gravity, you cant see gravity. even machines cant detect gravity.

When it's really cold and you breathe: you can see air coming from your mouth. You can't breathe to see gravity.

what i believe "gravity" is, basic buoyancy. when you throw an object on the surface of water it either sings or floats depending on its mass, an object like a log floats because its mass is not as tightly packed as for example a piece of metal. the log has many air pockets while the metal is dense. it sings while the log floats. air is a form of "liquid" as well, light objects float while heavy dense objects sink.

if gravity was real than a hydrogen atom for example could not freely float, hydrogen is a light element so it rises. if gravity was real there would be a liquid layer of hydrogen at the surface of the earth since the gravity would obviously hold onto the light hydrogen atom, gravity wouldn't allow for gas to exist unless it was in liquid state.

I don't know why i kept typing sings

Yes, you can go outside right now and measure the time it takes for an object of a certain mass to hi the ground and come up with the acceleration due to gravity. We've sent people into space who have measured it in microgravity and it holds true. We have telescope and have measure the speed at which objects in space move towards each other and it holds true.

So what makes an object dropped from a tall building come down to the earth?

that's not gravity, that's basic buoyancy within a medium.

if you did the same experiment in water, does the water defy gravity?

Replace that Congo nose and you'll have a passable brown waifu right there.

Are you retarded? That's not air, that's water.

So I can drink it?

Technically, yes. If you just breathe onto a surface like a window or a cup. Condensation, my dude.

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So how long would I have to breathe into a cup in order to fill the cup with water from my breath? That would be a useful survival skill if I was lost in the desert or stranded at sea.

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but what is being pushed onto that surface to create that condensation?

the soviet union was a superpower. im talking about the one from the cold war during the 1980's not before that.

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leftytards, everyone

it wasn't a superpower whe nnazi germany was around, don't be dishonest

Water. You don't see steam as air, do you?

Quite a while, I would imagine. It also would be a wasted effort, really. The amount of water that you sweat and breathe out would ultimately be more than what would be caught in a cup. Might be a neat experiment, though.

I said it was a great power, Even the united states was not a super power. read my post again.

So you think air does not exist?

Sure he does, he said so himself: air is water.

If I released a feather midway in a vacuum jar here on earth, what do you believe would happen? Do you think the feather would rise, fall, or float there? If you think that the feather would rise or fall, what do you believe is making the feather move?

The neat thing about this experiment is that it's something you can do in your own home for

No, but cold breath isn't "air," it's water, much like steam. I would say smoke or aerodynamics is a better representation.

Okay, not smoke, bad example.

What part about microgravity and observing objects in space did you not read?

But there is buoyancy in space: What do you think makes satellites maintain their orbit?

This is what happens when a writer forgets the mantra "write what you know."

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orbital_mechanics
Literally five seconds in google.

there is no medium for them to be bouyant in

"Infinite universes" will turn any story into shit. The only person who used them right was Araki when he wrote Steel Ball Run, and even that was with the caveat "there is only one Jesus corpse in the entire multiverse" Parallel universes can be a cool story mechanic though.

How do you think the sun's light gets to Earth?

my explanation was very simple. i don't have time to go into detail how or why something falls.

just because you remove the air from a medium does not mean that suddenly it will have no mass, buoyancy or weight.

the earth has a very large mass, which everything is attracted too.

fundamentally every atom is electrically charged, this electric charge creates negative and positive charges like a magnet. the more of these atoms that group together the more mass an object has. the more mass an object has the more it is likely to sink rather than float. some objects will have empty voids in them, while other objects are more dense. this is the reason a log which is very heavy but less dense but will float on water, and a piece of metal which is very dense and can be light but sinks.


no one is in space, and no one has gone to space. if you are talking about the ISS they are not in space. I don't even believe they are telling the truth that they are actually up there. those "experiments" you are talking about are done through centrifuges which use gyroscopic techniques to "defy gravity" or you can also do this through free-fall from an airplane.

satellites don't exist, they would literally burn up in the upper atmosphere due to the melting point of its metals reaching extreme temperatures.

satellites are in reality high altitude weather balloons.
here is a REAL satellite.

But if they're balloons: how can they float if they're made of metal?

Before this goes any stupider. Maybe people should state at exactly what distance from the planet, what part of the atmosphere, or what threshold of earths gravitational force constitutes where space begins.

thats a balloon filled with light gas such as helium or hydrogen gas. there are thousands of these giant balloons in the atmosphere, you cant see them from the ground, they can stay up there for months or years.


Melting point of aluminum 1,221°F-660.3°C

Trick question: space doesn't exist. It's a hoax.

I just realized that we might one day make AI that might begin to question if the 'physical world' is real.

Imagine two AI's arguing with each other.

"Come on bot, Three dimensions? Why would you even need three dimensions?"

This satellite would be virtually invisible reflecting the atmosphere.

Are there really three dimensions? Maybe we only see in two dimensions but we trick ourselves into believe there are three because our brain perceives things like how artists paint pictures using illusion of depth and such things to give the impression that their paintings are 3D but you're really just looking at a flat piece of canvas.

You're trying too hard.

Jesus Christ you are fucking retarded. And you have 28 goddamn posts, I'm sure all of them are equally retarded.

The ISS orbits between 330 and 435 km, and your temperature graph is literal fiction. Get the fuck out.

m8, you have two eyes for a reason. If reality was really two dimensional you'd only need a single eye. Depth perception works because each eye is intentionally off-center so you are in face seeing two slightly different perspectives of what is in front of you. Because we do live in a 3 dimensional space you are able to make out angles shifted in front of you. Your brain more or less does the rest

The only fiction here is your brain, go do some basic research fucking moron.

He's joking m8, Peo's law sure is a bitch aint it?

get out of here you stupid shit.

You want passable cute brown waifu?

Fuck you, you get Triforce of Poz.

I never bought into that "depth perception" thing. When I cover up my left or right eye: I see just as fine as when I had both eyes open. If it was true that you need both eyes for it: people who wear eyepatches would be unable to function in society.

but its not your eyes that are seeing, it is your brain. your brain interprets what your eyes see but it is your brain that creates the reality.

Mesosphere: 50-100km
ISS orbit: 330-435km
You: fucking retarded.


For 5 posts maybe, not 28+

No, he's pretending.

You underestimate the power of concentrated shitposting my dude

hey at least i'm not a fucking dumb shit that believes the iss is rotating around the earth at 20x the speed of sound while falling at 20x the speed of sound.

That's very well animated.

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Any reason your retarded faggot ass thinks that's not completely trivial accomplishment in fucking space?

I don't even know what the fuck you are trying to say here.

Thats what the average cartoon looked like before Hannah Barbera kick-started the age of Limited Animation which eventually led to ToonBoom and Adobe Flash Tweening shit

its like the fags that got butthurt at the gayfags best game ever poll

It's impossible for it to be doing any of that because anything that tries to exceed the sound barrier would disintegrate and, if it was falling at 20x the speed of sound all the time: then it should have crashed in Peru a few seconds after it was put into space in the first place.

Oddly enough, I was about to use exactly that as a point of comparison.

That is the point

Except for all the aircraft that exceed the speed of sound on a regular basis you fucking retard, and that's under normal atmospheric conditions, not in FUCKING SPACE WITH NO ATMOSPHERE.

Where the FUCK are you getting the retarded idea that it's "falling" at mach 22 like a lead bar?

The fact that Deus Ex isn't on the list proves it is shitty. The game was made almost 20 years ago but was so well researched and in dept that you still find things that you can relate to today and be stunned.

Hell it even predicted a Meme War, 9-11 for conspiracy theorist and was just plain interesting from an intellectual standpoint.

Shit, you're right. We'd better tell everyone on board the ISS to get off right now. They're already 20 years overdue for their crash into the earth! Somebody had also better warn Peru before the station realizes that it missed its crash date.

obviously you just take anything that is shoved in your face without doing research or using basic common sense to see if it makes sense or not.

they are falling at 20x the speed of sound while circling the earth at 20x the speed of sound. all doing this while having instantaneous communication with the ground and not dying from the temperatures up there.


your an idiot, as objects go faster than sound they get hot since they are colliding with atoms, it is called basic friction. going 20x the speed of sound would increase the temperature of the fucking thing to such a degree that it would literally melt. not to mention they claim they are in "space" How are they cooling this fucking craft? the inside should be a fucking oven.

NO ATMOSPHERE
NO FRICTION
THIS IS A SIMPLE FUCKING CONCEPT

do you know what happens to objects that go faster than sound you stupid fucking ignorant trash? they get hot.

You are falling for bait. The same baitmaster I fell for. He is a master of his craft, but in his hubris he is growing bolder and getting careless.

if there is no atmosphere than what is the craft pushing to gain thrust?

there is friction everywhere

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But I thought there was no friction in space. And besides, space is cold so they got the cooling problem figured out, yeah?

undertale is a good game btw tbh :^)

Grade school science faggot, for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. You exert a force in one direction, you get propelled in the opposite direction of that force.


Now that's some weak bait, you need to step up your gain.

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But if that was true: Bruce Lee would have broken every bone in his fist every time he threw a punch.

Bruce Lee never actually punched a person, idiot.

space isn't cold, and space is not a perfect vacucume. there isn't much in space for it to heat up. on earth the atmosphere heats up. but there isn't much of that in space. what happens to an object in space like the iss, the sun's radiation would heat up the metal of the iss like conduction there is nowhere for this energy to go except to penetrate the inside of the iss which would fry anyone inside.

But how does this work in a vacuum? as soon as you release the gas it would be sucked out into the vacuum. how do you produce thrust when you need to create fire to produce the thrust. how does fire work in space?

Heat from the sun? Shit nigga, just make the thing out of those sun blockers they make for cars. Problem solved.

No, that's actually correct.
t. scientist

Who is the Rainbow Socked one, I wanna know/see more…

Sylvester Stallone then. He punched that big hunk of meat without gloves on and it was frozen solid with a coarse, frost-bitten surface so, if what you said before was true, he should have broken every bone in his hand and gotten severe abrasions.

You don't need to argue with him. If he wants to assert his claims without evidence, then we are free to also dismiss his claims without evidence.


They tried that back in '98 when they first launched the ISS, but the astronauts forgot how to fold it back up to put in the seat pocket. They had to switch to heat dissipation panels after that.

Those hollywood wizards really can make it look like that was real meat he was really punching cant they?

But he did it for real. There's loads of documentaries and film analyses that confirm this.

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…You got me there.

Because I'm not some retard who shits on a good game just because one of the people who worked on it disagrees with my political views.

Such a memorable series

do you know the only thing separating the vacuum of space with the iss crew is a rubber o-ring.
can you believe this horseshit?

what is keeping the radiators cool? if the radiators are taking all the heat from the inside and sending it out and its also getting the radiation from the sun how are they not overheating?

also where is are the radiators radiating this heat to? it's not like there is an atmosphere where they are radiating this heat too right?

Let's do an experiment then. You go outside and punch a concrete wall as hard as you can. You should probably repeat this multiple times for consistency. If you break the bones in your hand, then we know that each action does have an equal and opposite reaction. If your hypothesis is correct, then your hand will be fine no matter how many times you punch the wall.

Air conditioning?

in space?

No, in the radiators.

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The ship is carrying air for the crew the air conditioners probably use the air the crew used up.

It's a chain of A/C units all the way down to earth. Each one takes the hot air of the one behind it and cools it, and then sends the next unit all of its own hot air. At the bottom, it feeds into an Nvidia factory. They bottle the heat and put it in their GPUs so they can catch fire more easily.

what air conditioner can withstand those temperatures. 2000+ degrees and survive. some ac's stop working on earth after getting a few degrees too hot.

These are the only elements that can withstand those temperatures and i doubt they are using any of them in satellites or the iss other than carbon.

but that's not hot enough.

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Observation and entanglement can be used to technically effect things faster than light and backwards in time but it cannot be used to send any information because you need both particles in order to interpret what happened.

Over time, heat decays and radiates as a photon and similarly it can 'behave' as a particle as opposed to the nominal perception of thermodynamics. Thus it is completely capable of radiating through perfect a vacuum (which even "space" is not). Though this does not wick away heat nearly as fast as having a convenient heat sink, given enough time the rules of entropy will have a measurable effect and objects with a surplus of heat relative to the environment will converge to a background temperature. This radiation action is proportional to surface area and thus satellites and other space-craft often employ the use of large fins (radiators). These are often erroneously identified as solar panels.

What? Only in language but the meaning of 5 doesn't.
You are arguing semantics but numbers exist outside of us using them.

What kind of new age religion are you trying to sell me boy?

If man were capable of changing the fabric of the universe, why can't he change the universe so that we all believe his bullshit?

This thread is getting retarded really fast. How long until we get the "Black holes are invented by Jews" and "evolution is a communist conspiracy" anons here?

Makes sense considering they aren't real.

A particle can be in superposition of states and is only defined by it's probability wave function. By doing specific things with it, you can collapse its wave function and it'll settle at a specific concrete state. Entangled particles' wave function always collapses for both particles simultaneously, and both particles settle in appropriately correlated state. One naive and ignorant interpretation is that you can use this to transmit information faster than light. But sure enough you can't - you don't know particle state until after you measure it, and if you measure it in two places and times that are outside of light cones of one another, it's not even possible to tell which measurement triggered which state change. From either state of reference, their own measurement triggered particle state change and information didn't travel anywhere.

What if you are constantly measuring them?

If it happens for every individual particle, you think it's like this if you do it continuously as well?

I'm not following. So you're observing a particle, and it changes state, can it be assumed that change was due to entanglement with another particle somewhere else?

Causality is not defined if two events are outside of each other's light cone. Mechanically it's impossible (duh) and if you concieve a thought experiment, you can clearly see that neither observer agrees on the causality order. From your frame of reference, you measuring particle's state caused its wave function to collapse, while measurement on the other end didn't happen yet.

As for quantum eraser specifically, in normal setup the light can't interfere because only non-orthogonal linearly polarized light can interfere, and they're opposite axial polarized. This produces flat image. Then, past the axial polarizer but on the other path, linear polarizer is added. This destroys slit polarization dependency retroactively, and it produces two overlapping interference patterns for left and right polarization, which together also produce flat image. You can't tell which way it went without analyzing data from both parties.

Can you say this in a way a non-physicist understands? I thought that quantum entanglement means that if I do shit with one particle, another one will be affected reardless of distance

So then what are all those observations of black holes user?

Play Star Control or any oldder Sci Fi PC game. Mass effect is shit by other game standards.

even if it decays, it is quickly replaced by more radiation by the sun and the heat from inside the iss.


it's not semantics, 5 only means 5 because we say it's 5, we say 5 is 5 because we have 5 fingers, it was an arbitrary system created out of convenience.


because you have free will to believe in it or not. but you have no power to stop others from changing it.


what's wrong with half life 2? i think system shock 2 is good too.


einstein was a jew and his theories are all bullshit made up jew science, yes its fake science.


can you point me to the transitional fossils between species? because it looks like they are simply thousands of different species not one thing transforming into another.>>12411700

Thanks Mark!

All species are transitional you retarded. Evolution doesn't just start and stop.

but can you point me to a fish that is turning into another animal?

You don't seem to understand what transitional means. where are the ape humans? because all i see are different species of human that went extinct.

Sad!

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See

It's better to watch this then try to explain a concept not even science fully understands yet.

Seriously, did you even try?

There is no such thing as a "particle" There is only a Wave.

what's your problem with starflight?

Once observed a wave collapses into a particle and it happens for both it and it's entangled parter. But how would someone know that the entangled particle was observed befell since observing it collapses it. It means you can't tell if it were collapsed by you or by someone else since observing it collapses it.

waves don't collapse, when you observe on a wave you are also sending a wave to the particle causing it to collide into a particle.
it's the same as sonoluminescence.

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First off, humans are apes. 2nd every species is in a state of transition at all times. It's like goes from one color end of a rainbow to the other and taking snap shots at random points. Every color between violet and red is a transition and in between the starting point and current "end" point. There are literally infinite subjective colors between 2 colors just like every fossil is in transition from one thing to another.

sounds gay

so where are the humans who are turning into birds and where are the humans who have night vision ability naturally? where are the humans who are turning into fish?

where are the humans turning into polar bears because their environment is so cold.

Humans are NOT apes, we are a species on our own.

please point me to some fossils where it is going through transition.

Apes isn't a species, it's a subjective category of primate that includes humans. Evolution only goes forward, not backwards or side to side so we can't transition into species that already exists. You have an amazing misunderstanding of biology. Humans that evolved in cold areas have light skin and used fur, humans in very sunny places evolved dark skin.

*subcategory

evolution is not something that favors the best outcome. by your definition there is a end goal of every species. what is this last form that every species is thriving to be?

dark skin and light skin has nothing to do with cold or hot environments.

white skin originated in the middle east, europeans were dark skinned 8000 years ago. and they live in cold environment. white skin first came to europe when middle eastern farmers migrated north into europe. blue eyes came to europe from siberia.

please point me to humans who naturally evolved to see in the dark.

I can't even comprehend where you think I implied there was an end goal. Also yes Sark skin evolved in sunny places. Nearly every people who lived near the equator or lived in a desert has dark skin. I have no idea what you are talking about with night vision.

Night vision is something that humans require since many predators hunt humans are a species that can go to sleep at whatever time they want most of human work is done through night and times when the sun is going down. why is it no human has ever developed night vision naturally like cats or other animals? Evolution would create this in species that are trying to survive. Where are the humans with nightvision? where are the humans with fur.

Nigger, what the hell are you talking about! How the fuck did you hear about natural selection and think that means humans should become polar bears?

Apparently humans don't need night vision since we did fine with out it. Humans used fire for vision and spent most of their waking hours during the day.

Was this poll even about story? That was obviously edited in afterward, and a lot of those games don't have a story worth shit.

Also by your retarded logic every animal should have wings because flying is so helpful. Every adaptation has trade offs. How can you be an adult and not have taken a basic biology class? Do they still not teach evolution in America's shit states?

It was. I remember when that poll was happening. Yes this is your normalfags taste in games.

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all of you are litteral morons, how can you determine what is useful and what isn't? you cant tell evolution to change one thing but not another. humans separated by thousands of miles all somehow evolved the same way. very weak against the elements and physically against all animals.

nigga go read a book, you don't even understand the bare basics

Natural selection selects for it.
Big words for a hick that apparently never finished middle school.

you don't understand. You aso cant answer my question and keep denying it as if that proves your point. where are the transitional fossils of one animal turning into another.

the only hick here is you, go use your brain for once in your lifetime. it's very crusty,

You dumb nigger. EVERY FOSSIL IS IN A STATE OF TRANSITION learn how evolution works.

analogy isn't PROOF. i said show me fossils not tell me.

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I see different species, I don't see transition.
3 is a fucking gorilla or monkey, its totaly diffrent from 4, 5 is looks closer to 3 than 4, 6 is closer to 3 than 4 7 is closer to 3 than 4,

3,5,8,7,8, look nothing like a human at all. How did 4 go to become 5 isn't that devolution?

Lucy, the oldest skeleton, was found to have baboon bones in her skeleton.

other bones were found to just be humans with deformities.

The chart is on the bottom of the page. They're not all from the same branch.

More have been discovered since 1999 as well: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_human_evolution_fossils

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There were many different species of human, they are not all transitioned from one species. they went extinct while our species of human survived.

there were hobbit species, and many other species. this does not prove that humans came from fish.

the ancient sumerians claim an "alien" species came to earth and mixed our dna with some ape like human and created humanity as a slave race to mine resources for them.
it also explains the stairstep evolution of technology 9000 years ago.

I think you should stop watching Ancient Aliens for a bit.

it's not ancient aliens, its ancient history. this is literally what sumerians wrote. go research it.

oh man his ban must have ended recently

how bout you prove your claims instead

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I was just passing by when I saw this.
For fuck's sake user. The one useful thing high school is still supposed to teach you is to avoid using wikipedia as a source.

elaborate, I can't read ancient sumerian

Wikipedia is usually fine for anything that doesn't involve conjecture.

How do you still not get it? If evolution doesn't stop that means every fossil is a transitional fossil. That means all I have to do is post any fossil ever.
You are so stupid I am more amazed then mad.

That isn't a thing you retard.

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Oh wait, I figured out what this idiot thinks.
He literally thinks there is something called an "inbetween" species or something. A species doesn't one day become a new one stupid. It gradually changes over and over and what is defined as one species and another is all subjective when all the fossils are ancestors of each other.
Why am I and 3 other anons here having to explain basic concepts to someone who should have learned this in middle school?

Its probably the same retard that I was arguing with on friday.
He ended up posting (102) posts and eventually got banned for shitting up everything.

Holy fucking shit.
At first I thought you were some creationist christcuck from /christian/ but you are even dumber than that.

Wave function collapses. And it's not some mechanical collapse, it's a word to describe transition from superposition of states to a single concrete state.

It will, but not in a way naive or ignorant interpretation suggests.

I went through all this trouble explaining how evolution works and you go
I hope my taxes don't go to your medical bills retard.

it's blatantly communist, you're just not seeing it because there's no food lines since they have magic machines that make food out of nothing but energy

I remember that thread. Fuck, how can one user produce so much shit in such a small amount of time?

Autism.

This is Araki for you. He makes great concept, realizes how overpowered and absurd it is and fixes it by doing something stupid.
Also we just knew there is only one D4C, not Jesus.

(136) or 7 actually, I don't remember

Yeah, they're "technically" not a superpower, just like Austria was an "Archduchy." They just made up the word after WW2. Technically the US is the only superpower left.

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Fuck, meant Sudetenland. Wanted that "peace in our time" reference

black people
:^)

The worst part is I called it a few posts done.

Hello. I also have tetrachromatism and can see waaaaay more colors than you. My eyes look so abnormal people assume I wear color contact lenses all the time.

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after shit like that you have to post them

I don't own a camera.

Post eyes
that sounds rad as fuck

so you're making shit up

nor a smartphone?

Even then that doesn't stop evolution. The first mistake Creationist tards do is get evolution and bio-genesis mixed up.
Though MUH SOUP is a pretty clear cut explanation and adding aliens to the mix only complicates things.

Actually, I don't, but let me see if my over a decade old brick phone can take a decent picture and I can figure out a way to get it to my PC.

Link's Awakening came out in 1991. Ocarina of Time in 1999. These people never heard of Link's Awakening. Remember, OoT was babby's first Zelda for the current fans of Zelda. the 1986 original is de bes

Inb4 that video where some faggot goes on about how it's impossible to complete without help

Fuck it. I'm not spending my lunch break fucking around with this.

Just imagine a dude with this eye color and weirdly large irises and you've basically got it.

So you've got extra parts in you that are useless and have a different eye color. Cool about the eye color, whatever about the spare parts.

>Another study suggests that as many as 50% of women and 8% of men may have four photopigments and corresponding increased chromatic discrimination compared to trichromats.[19]

Did the aliens come out of soup or did the alien aliens plant the stuff there and the alien alien aliens planted stuff there or….

yes

When does it end?

it doesn't

k

Very few images in all those rage threads ever got to me, but this one. This fucking one still makes me angry to this day.

Fair enough, I didn't read the whole article.


"In 2010, after 20 years of study of women with four types of cones (non-functional tetrachromats), neuroscientist Dr. Gabriele Jordan identified a woman (subject cDa29) who could detect a greater variety of colors than trichromats could, corresponding with a functional tetrachromat (or true tetrachromat).[21][22] [23][24]"

So in reality your benefits are mostly theoretical, and it took a person who dedicated their fucking career to proving the theory, and in that time they found one person who could demonstrably see better.

Whatever, keep thinking you're badass, I guess. I'm going to be my completely uninteresting self and go back to not getting laid and making lots of money to spend on nothing meaningful.


Truly, the suffering in life never ends.

Not that I haven't thought about this before, but yeah, that's basically what happens at the end of every part. Either something completely out of left field removes the problem, or Araki just forgets about things.

>part 1: who cares it's part 1
>part 2: Kars powers up and becomes an invincible shapeshifter but gets blown into outer space by a volcano
>part 3: DIO powers up enough to increase how long he can stop time but it turns out Jotaro could too because reasons and he finishes him off
>part 4: Jotaro's time stop is rarely used since he barely shows up for anything; Kira gets Bites the Dust and almost manages to kill everyone except he accidentally blurts out his identity when Josuke shows up and has to stop the bomb to defend himself
>part 5: Silver Chariot becomes Chariot Requiem and fucks with everybody but gets defeated through some trick I don't remember well; Gold Experience becomes Gold Experience Requiem and causes Diavolo to die infinitely; Araki then forgets about Giorno entirely
>part 6: Jotaro gets knocked out of commission for pretty much the entire part; Pucci powers up his stand a couple times until he gets Made in Heaven and manages to reset the entire universe without any of the good guys in it, but then he breathes himself to death and the whole universe resets again but different this time
>part 7: shoving all the corpse parts in Lucy allowed Valentine to become invincible, but thanks to crazy golden ratio shit Johnny and Gyro are able to defeat him even in all parallel universes; alt-Diego gets tricked into having his head blown up by his original head

Now I'm just left wondering what crazy shit will inevitably get introduced in part 8, and what stupid/clever (depending on your point of view) thing Araki will pull to deal with it.

On-topic, I'm with . I've never played either but even I know enough about both to know that Planescape is a game that actually has a story while Zelda games have practically nothing beyond "defeat Ganondorf." I think this is just proof that if you put OoT in any poll, idiots will vote for it over and over again, even if it makes no sense to.

Put another way, if we were to believe the results of such polls, then OoT is the pinnacle of the medium and everything since has been irrelevant. Yes I know you're going to put in a joke about how that's true but we all know it isn't.

Well, there was always the gayfaqs poll that had OoT beaten by a memegame

I want /christian/ to visit over more often, it's fun.

OoT is at least a game. The only decent thing about PST is its story. Might as well read the novel instead.

the salt from that was great specially the one that came from here

It's not like Mass Effect stole the entire actual plot of Deep Space 9 or anything.

How did you get a color photograph of H. P. Lovecraft?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue–green_distinction_in_language
Language influences color perception. The more colors you can name, the more colors you can perceive. I've spent so much time doing pixel art that I think of colors in RGB format and see so many subtle differences nobody else can pick up on.


same tbh

I think it's been said that at some point in primate history, an ancestor transitioned from night vision with no full color vision to poor night vision with full color vision like we have now.

These best game ever lists are always shit. They're just popularity contests that never take into account how good or groundbreaking a game actually is. as proven by that GameFAQ's list that had Undertail win.
You never find games that are actually the best of there genres win and trying to say which games of entirely different genres are better is retarded anyway.

Also I'm salty because Ninja Gaiden Black is never on these lists.

leftyfur has creationists now? I'm not even surprised

the reason undermeme won that poll was because it was raided by shitposters

Any proof it was shitposters, I assumed it was the autists fanbase.

i had some pics but my image folder is an unorganized piece of shit and im too much of a lazy fag to search for them also the undermeme general here raided it too to get fags on gayfags and here butthurt

Meh I can believe it.
Anyway that would be more proof that these lists have zero credibility.

It would be dishonest to say that (((reptiles))) aren't pushing some influence in that area for how long, but yes there are some woke individuals with power levels beyond comprehension tbqh