Aside from >Windows 10, have I made healthy peashy choices (keeping in mind a low budget)?

Aside from >Windows 10, have I made healthy peashy choices (keeping in mind a low budget)?

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Just leave. Even if you removed the telemetry, you'll get nothing but memed on here.

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Why

I use Windows 10. What's wrong with it aside from privacy shit?

Feels poor man.

that's kind of the most important part, faggot

Please remember to sage in M$ shill threads

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Nice job explaining the problem instead of mindlessly shitposting.

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Please don't make a thread about it though, just ask in the questions thread.

I don't fully understand this brand of autism.

Looks fine to me, OP. Just pirate W10 Enterprise and find a keygen for it. Then follow Microsoft's user guides for disabling all Telemetry.
You cannot undo telemetry on normal version, you need Enterprise Edition AKA Business version.
Microsoft cannot legally spy on companies as they'd """accidentally""" be stealing trademark and copyrighted material, so they allow for business users to disable it, but they're within US law to steal normal user data, because Burgers are fucked and think it's normal for the government or corporations to have complete control, and only ever complain when the side they don't like is doing it.

Oh, and get some sort of automatic Hosts file updater that disables their new telemetry servers, just as a precaution.

Or you could not do all that shit and just install 7 instead.

That's probably because you don't fully understand Windows 10.

they removed the option to disable all that stuff in the business editions after enough people upgraded to it specifically to be able to disable all that shit.

If they're spying on me they're not doing a good job of it.

A) identity theft in case l33t [email protected]/* */ get access to Microsoft(or which ever corporation you trust)'s servers
B) you become a trading card for said corporations where you can be manipulated to discrete advertising that takes advantage that your only friend in high school just died.

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no they didn't. I literally just set up a new system and did this on win10E LTSB 14393

it's working well for funding linux based software anyway. seems like quite a few businesses are simply switching over to debian based systems rather than dealing with the hassle of windows and its nightmare patches.
i wish there was a functional autocad for linux though.

you're either trolling or retarded; either way it's WAY WAY WAY past time for a new CPU, motherboard, and memory, these chips were slow when they came out in 2012 and nothing has changed for the better.

even a $60 kaby lake pentium G4560 will shit all over your CPU in games. G4560 + GTX 1060 6GB runs GTA V at >100 FPS on completely maxed-out ultra settings as long as you leave MSAA turned off.

How? I disabled all of that.


Haha, yeah, I had one of those. Sure.


It's happened to me three times already, I know how to handle it.

no user, that's just foolish

I'm not sure what you're on about.

heh, what is that from, cpubenchmark.net or cpu-world or something?

2/10 made me reply

this is Holla Forums, not /g/, nobody here is using fusionIO storage or multi-port 10GbE adapters

i'm not talking about getting one of those weird alternatives that will end up only being on servers

I mean, data collected from over a thousand people that very plainly compares the two units is at least slightly more accurate than some otaku who doesn't even talk to other human beings outside of message boards – let alone collect data about their computers.

Forget it he's a fucking lost cause, deliberately obtuse or a plant.

technology can move pretty fast but not THAT fast.

We don't even have DDR5 RAM for consumer purchase yet.

All three were unrelated to W10 you fucking asslicker. Unless you pay for everything in cash it's bound to happen.

You're the one who jumped in posting like a trolling sissy.
The only benchmark where that chip is better is single thread, and that's only relevant if you're doing PS2 emulation because it's dogshit

Are you seriously saying that because you're dumb then everyone else must be?

here, user, check the first image – and I intentionally picked one of the worst cases for PCIe scaling, if you play other games or in higher resolutions it makes even less difference

full article here: techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_1080_PCI_Express_Scaling/

wait, are you serious? ok, I'll bite. check the single-threaded scores in your image and my second image here. single-threaded CPU performance is the second most important aspect of PC for games after GPU performance.

full review for second image is at: techreport.com/review/31366/amd-ryzen-7-1800x-ryzen-7-1700x-and-ryzen-7-1700-cpus-reviewed/

It must be nice only purchasing goods by screaming at Mommy that you want something.

and by the way, I again picked one of the most multi-threaded cases, other games run even worse on the FX chips

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As long as single thread is as high as the FX 8320, it's fine. You only need more for PS2 emulation.


Yes, thank you. You took the words out of my mouth.

Make sure you alert Mommy that your nappy needs changing before the shit overflows onto your Sybian and you get another ass infection, manchild.

Windows 10 also has shit compatibility with older games, even including stuff released around 2010 or a bit later. It's sad when fucking Wine can play Windows games better than the latest release of Windows, but that's what you get when you trust Microsoft with not fucking up.

I mean, if you're satisfied with getting reduced performance out of the rest of your hardware, then sure, yeah, it's "fine"

me personally I'd rather have a $60 pentium that will get me higher (and more importantly, more *consistent*) framerates in every game, not to mention snappier overall system performance, DRASTICALLY reduced power consumption (and heat output as a result), and lots of nice modernities like USB 3.1 and M.2 sockets

do you mind providing me some examples of games that run well on Windows 7 but don't run well or at all on Windows 10?

I just beat Slave Zero again on Win10E LTSB and it was a blast, I love that fucking game

Shame about the complete fucking lack of music.

I though we reached an agreement, don't be so angry.


Could say the same thing for a chip that performs worse in virtually all things except some games that failed to optimize for multicore.

can you provide some examples? the new Kaby Lake pentiums have four hardware threads, very few games scale past four threads

check the Doom result here, even in a Vulkan game that DOES scale out to many threads well the FX-8370 gets stomped on by the ancient Core i7-2600K

look at the compilation result. program compilation is one of the most multithreaded things that exists. notice the strong performance of the 16-threaded Ryzen chips and how the only thing that beats the 1800X is the 20-thread 6950X. now notice how the 8-thread quad-core FX-8370 loses to the 8-thread quad-core 2600K, a chip that came out fully a year earlier.

the thing about single-threaded performance is that it *IS* multi-threaded performance. having more cores is no way to make up for having extremely poor single-threaded performance. I don't like Apple, but they are the only company outside of Intel (and very recently, AMD) who seems to understand that you need a couple of fast processors before you start scaling out to lots of processors.

I don't remember, it's been a while since Windows 10 came out. Most of the games were triple-A titles, shit like Bioshock.
Still, installing Windows 10 is a sure sign of cuckery and doing so gets more retarded by the minute as radeonsi gets dramatically better with every release and Wine's DX11 support constantly improves for the few decent games that need it.

Holy fuck look at this guy going full autism over this. What the fuck is wrong with you?

We're on Holla Forums.

hmmm.

well, the original bioshock also has issues on Windows 7, though.

anyway, there's a lot of FUD about Windows 10 and I certainly don't recommend buying it (or giving MS money for any reason), but if you're using native windows on bare metal (i.e. not virtualized) there's very little reason not to use win10 enterprise at this point


why would you ask a question you answered in the same breath? (*'▽')

anyway, I'm just trying to dispel some myths and help out my fellow anons who are trapped under a bulldozer

Sure, I just ran this on my computer, I added your chip as a baseline.

Intel just canceled IDF and is starting to sell off property. You can post your pretty graphs but the fact is Intel sucks now.

Pentium is not "4 hardware threads", it's two physical threads and two logical ones via hyperthreading. Hyperthreading only improves performance in some multi-threaded tasks, sometimes it can even hurt.

Intel and the kikes in tech media keep telling people they don't need more cores, and then they buy a shitty CPU with few cores and need to upgrade in a year or two. My FX 8350 lasted my like 4 years, and my 1700x is going to last me another four or five, easily. And instead of spending money on a new motherboard and CPU, I'll buy a nicer graphics card.

You Intel fanboys are the worst, specially when you act like you understand technology and you really don't.

You are going to buy a dual core CPU instead of a quad, because of some small differences in frame times. Good job man, 5% faster in single thread and half the speed in multi-thread, but that 5% is totally worth it!

I chopped off the last result. It was just an average.
Basically, Fx-8320 can achieve nice enough framerates for most games, even if that chip does grant better results in some cases, and performs better for most other tasks that are not gaming related.
I only ever had issues with PS2 because the emulator is not very optimized.

those are mostly "embarrassingly parallel" compute benchmarks that have absolutely zero relevance to gaming performance. divide your chip's results by eight (four in the FPU and SSE benchmarks) and the Pentium's by two and see how they match up.

the only thing that DOES relate to gaming performance there is the single-threaded CPU test where, surprise surprise, your chip gets flattened.


Holla Forums pls go


refer to my previous post here:

oh, and I already have a Core i7-5775C, no need for me to upgrade

I was curious about Ryzen, considered it strongly, but I don't do anything on my PC that takes real compute besides gaming and (see the rest of the thread)

kill yourself

How unsurprising

The CPU is the second oldest piece of hardware in my computer. I upgraded the Graphics card and added 8GB more RAM today.

I was previously running with a Radeon R9 370 for Graphics.

I decided not to upgrade the CPU because it still works great and it's never given me guff. It can wait another year or two for better things to be cheaper.

I wouldn't say zero, games are starting to get better and better with multicores.
Besides, don't move the goalpost. YOU are the one who brought up system performance to the table


I'm really glad you said something as dumb as this so I know not to bother replying anymore

That kid is a retard. You could have spent $150 on an FX 8320 5 years ago, and it'd still be a decent CPU for gaming.

Now if you bought a Core i3 5 years ago, you'd be fucked completely.

Intel fanboys are retarded. Anyone who is trying to tell you to buy something that's 5% faster in single thread and half the speed in multi-thread is a total dipshit.

FX 8350 and FX 8320 are fine CPUs, and they only got better with age as more games became more multithreaded.


Allow me to refute your points by calling you names.

Most games are already using four threads, with DX12 and Vulkan we're reaching peak of 16 threads for games.


haha, you fell for the intel iris meme. I assume you bought an intel iris because "lol great igpu" yet have an Nvidia because AMD's "drivers suck."

Please, for fuck's sake, no one listen to this kid.

I spent less than $80 on it when I first got it about a year and a half ago.

If you bought an FX 8320 for $80 you can tell that kid to fuck off, you got a really good deal. FX 8350 when bought for $200 when it first came out was a very good value. The kid's just mad your CPU you paid $80 for is so close to his $360+ CPU in multi-threaded performance, and he is a beta, autistic cuck who needs to go online and defend his horrible purchases.

I wish I was a kid, I'm pushing 30…

the Core i7-5775C is unlocked for overclocking, see here: ark.intel.com/products/88040/Intel-Core-i7-5775C-Processor-6M-Cache-up-to-3_70-GHz

Mine runs at 4.3 GHz, see the image here:

re: Iris meme, I don't even use the IGP, I got the chip for its 128MB of L4 cache and I got a pretty nice deal on it ($300), it was a minor-but-notable upgrade from my 4790K which is now in my wife's PC. it was at the time of its release (simultaneous with Intel Skylake) the fastest CPU on the market for games, and it still competes favorably with Skylake and Kaby Lake processors depending on the game particularly when the latter parts are using stock 2133/2400MT/s memory

as far as your assumption re my GPUs, I have a pair of R9 Fury X cards in crossfire. I love AMD GPUs and I'm a big proponent of open standards. I wish AMD CPUs were more competitive on single-threaded performance, because, yet again, it is really the only thing that matters for games (which is, again, the only thing I really do on my PC that demands high performance)

AMD is pushing the DX12/Vulkan meme pretty hard and they do offer nice gains on some chips, but they're not a magic bullet for a slow CPU

I only have 5 more years before I'm this guy.

don't worry, I'm confident you won't reach my levels of autism

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missed this earlier
not really. games are simulations, simulations progress in real time or an approximation of it. a certain amount of work has to be done every frame; no matter how many cores you have if your slowest core can't get through the work fast enough your framerate will drop. it's as simple as can be, look up a concept called amdahl's law.
I'm not moving any goalposts, multi-threaded compute performance has little-to-nothing to do with system responsiveness because virtually all client tasks are purely single-threaded and usually reliant on either user input or the result of the previous task meaning that there is no -way- to multi-thread them.

in a way, I feel bad for you, because I used to be like you, and I do hope you get over this phase sooner rather than later

I used to be a huge AMD fangirl, I was running an expensive Phenom II X6 processor on a fancy ASUS Sabertooth motherboard, I had crossfire radeon HD 4870s (before they even worked properly, because lol no frame pacing), I even had an AMD wall scroll hanging in my room at my parents' house and stuck AMD logo stickers on everything including my 60GB PS3 and my dumbphone (cringe)

when bulldozer came out I was like you, I kinda lost my mind and insisted that MULTICORE IS THE WAY OF THE FUTURE and got in a lot of really heated arguments on the internet, I also got banned from various forums. after a certain point it became impossible to deny reality anymore and I started to learn more about computer science and microprocessor design, and since I have done so I've come to realize that bulldozer family processors are garbage and multi-core is really more or less a meme past 4 cores on client workloads. Intel understands this; they're not "holding back consumers" because they're jews, they're offering consumers the best performance possible because Intel's engineers understand that multi-core is not useful for the overwhelming majority of workloads.

here's another example; video encoding is one of the few common client tasks that makes use of multi-threaded compute, and the Pentium G4560 is basically a Core i3-6100 with 3.5 Ghz instead of 3.7 GHz. look at the results in the image

kms tbh

Bulldyke or tranny?

yeh I'm a rugmuncher
why do you think I bother hanging around here to help anons like that guy I was helping with his DPC latency in another thread? stupid maternal instinct

Oh, I'm not arguing with a retard, just a woman. Makes sense.

I mean I am pretty stupid, but at least I'm not the one shitposting about MUH MULTICOREZ in the face of all evidence to the contrary ┐( ̄ヮ ̄)┌

Don't adopt children and fuck them up without a father figure.

haha I spend too much time taking care of little kids here anyway

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Slave Zero does have music. Except in the awful Dreamcast port.

Every time.
Joke's on you, I like /ara/ and /gfd/.

it sure does! embed related


no – I'm not belittling anyone – I'm talking about the literal teenagers here and elsewhere who I reply to every day asking shit like "do I need a core i7/ryzen 1800X/GTX 1080 to play minecraft"

On cuckchan maybe, but I don't see much of that here. You're still cancer for shilling Windows 10, mentioning your sex on an imageboard, and being a carpetmuncher.

oh no the mean man called me cancer which is certainly a completely original insult that I have never heard before what ever shall I do

I'M BEING BULLIED BY A LESBIAN

You're not interesting enough for that.

Just the way you type shows that you've never even been on a fucking chan. Fuck off and die, you cunt eating dyke.

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but apparently I'm interesting enough to get your (You)s (ゝω・)ノ

the fact that you think this is pretty amusing considering that I was here before the second fullchan exodus and I was THERE in 2009 not everyone makes it a priority to fit in with other groups particularly when those groups are mostly made up of crowd-following children

I was an oldfag before you ever heard the word meme kiddo

That's one way to cope with lesbian bed death.

And I was here before any of you cuckchan fucks were here. I came to this site in its first few months, and people like you come to shit it the fuck up, with your bullshit like
Maybe if you weren't such a leftist faggot, you would know that places like Holla Forums and Holla Forums were paradises of legitimate, mature, engaginf discourse, and over those periods of time between each exodus, of which you came right after the first, meaning you are part of the shitty halfchan wave, the site got shittier over time.
And you're still here. Fucking blog posting about how you like to eat pussy because it's all you can get.
Admit it, you can't get dick for shit, so you come here to where you know you can get your rocks off a few guys who want to talk about games and their builds by pissing them off, because its the only male attention you'll ever get.
Am I wrong?

wait… who's a leftist? you don't know anything about real lesbians lol my wife is an apprentice armorer and bartender (at a bar & grill not some faggy dyke bar) and I am a systems integrator, both of us are pretty fucking far right politically (at least by the rest of the world standards, by amerifag standards we're centrists)

who is blogposting? I got asked and I answered in literally four words, you guys are the ones who keep talking about it tbh you are just making yourself look like picrelated

I came into this thread for the same reason I come into about half the threads I go into and thats to talk to someone about their poor hardware choices; I don't really care if you don't like me or what I have to say and I'm not really interested either way – I'm just here to talk about PC hardware

you know, the topic of the thread? sorry if you're mad about the truth that AMD CPUs are inferior for games I also wish it wasn't the case

No, you're not. Faggots are automatically degenerative to the fabric of society by emasculating men, and destroying the concept of the familial unit being the smallest unit of society, needing to be kept nuclear to uphold the rest of its society. You automatically make the world worse by making being gay acceptable.
You, you dumb fuck, because you literally just said
Your faggot wife being an armorer and you being a systems integrator has nothing to do with this thread or this website, or your illegitimate political views, yet you feel the need to bring it up. Being a part of your personal life, you posting it is fucking blogging. It doesn't add to the discussion, you just feel the need to bring it up because, once again, you are blog posting.
Really? Because you haven't filtered me yet and you keep responding. Get the fuck off my website if you're not interested.
Really? Because you seem to be blog posting the other half of the time.

You and your pathetic faggot of a wife need a good visit from Uncle Pence.

sigh

good point

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Good riddance, you daft fucking degenerate. Now get the fuck off my website, and swallow a fucking bullet.

yeh, yeh, laff it up. I think OP abandoned thread anyway

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You're gonna be pushing fifty before you get out of here shithead, and that's in a body bag. I rolled an 8 ball.