I really like alot of your theories on capitalism and new methods to combat it lefty/pol/...

I really like alot of your theories on capitalism and new methods to combat it lefty/pol/, but at the same time I thinks monarchs and ruling families/people can be dank as long as there are great and good people within them. Ultimatley isn't it easier to teach a young prince to be a good and effective ruler then a populace of voters? And even if you get a few generations of shitty people isn't it worth it for the occasional Ceaser, Napoleon, or Reinhard von Lohengramm?

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No. The American welfare state is about to be destroyed, and that made it about 50 years. An incompetent monarch could destroy any accomplishments of an enlightened monarch in much shorter time than this. You have to ask yourself - if monarchies provided so well for their citizens, why did they overthrow it in the first place?

That true, but benevolent dictators don't exist, and shitty dictators destroy more than the benevolent ones can create.

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Why would a prince want the people to question his authority?

It's easier to have a vanguard that's in constant check by the people.

Also, Caesar and Napoleon both didn't step down when they had to.

There was a Roman guy that was appointed Dictator to fend off an invasion, and after he went back to plowing his field, but I don't remember the name.

Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

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JACOBINS DID NOTHING WRONG

If the history of 20th century communism tells us anything it's that communists in favor of aristocratic government, parliamentarianism, or any kind of state body that puts power into the hands of a small group should be regarded as being on the same level as nazis, they are totally useless.

Yet history has not shown us any situation where revolutionaries were anything but a small minority in society. And there's no reason to believe pure popular rule would be immune to the infighting and purges that disrupted the old leaderships.

The goal of communism is to put all power into the hands of communists. To that end, I can not possibly recommend anything other than an elective kingship. No fucking joke, I am a deadly serious monarcho-communist. My program seems the only way to enforce proletarian sovereignty without sacrificing centralism of action. And make no mistake, without centralism there is no communism.

They were overthrown by the bourgeois though.

Just because a nation falls on hard times doesn't automatically mean that it's the fault of the regime. Ups and downs are inevitable.

A funny thought: in many cases the monarchs and bourgeois actually collaborated to oust the aristocrats. In many ways the were natural allies, the aristocrats stood to heavily restrict the rights of both.
So might that not suggest the natural ally of the proletariat might be the aristocrats?

They don't?

I've always considered it being a result of ideologies coming out of the American and French revolution. If they hadn't happened we may have ended up with an >H>R>E style elective monarchy, or just oligarchies where the nobitlity is constantly battling against the monarchy (like they were always doing).

Does it though? Or is it simply an eventual loss of perspective created by their position, just as in any other government from the U.S. to small scale tribes?

Then again I kight just be a closet Stalinist.

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Gee I wonder who OP is?

Are you implying the perpetuation of a welfare state is a good thing?

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Who dat?
kinda cute

Great job arguing with yourself fam

Aristocracy didn't want to go, cause it was a think of the past. Of feudalism.

Appart from the fact that there are no aristocrats anymore, why would they want to ally with the people that would cut their heads off?


The more unchecked a power is, the more it will be corrupted.
See r/soc for example.

There was ONE roman guy, that was a retired general that was fine farming his land and was CALLED to defened the city.

Ceasar, Napoleon, Stalin WANTED the power and weren't going to give it away.

You want a leader?
Have a guy that doesn't want to be the leader and make sure he's gonna leave when he is no longer needed.

FUCK YOU REBEL YOU CUTE PIECE OF SHIT

No gods, no masters

Considering that many Americans may die because the fascist state removes their access to health insurance or ability to feed themselves, we may consider the welfare policy of the fascist state to be better than nothing.

It's Rebel Absurdity this is not the first time he's made a thread like this and he's also been sympathetic to Monarchies before.

Also, Rebel Absurdity you should just move to Saudi Arabia if you like Monarchies that much.

Only an idiot that believes in religious spooks and divine rights would be swayed by the fantasy of a mona- ah fuck OP.

Indeed, aristocrats shouldn't ally with the bourgeois.
It's not really useful these days but it's interesting to think what could've happened in say, russia.

Jesus christ I had no idea Rebel was such a cuteboy.

Leftypol must do everything we can to emasculate Rebel, slowly turning him into a sissy slut that might be utilized for the collective of this board. In fact I encourage all 20 something beta males to follow suit, as a victory against masculinity is a victory for socialism

Never thought I'd see the day I'd agree with an anfem.
A sissy boislut for every comrade, the revolution demands it.

When do we guillotine Rebel?

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When the revolution eats its own children

Wouldn't it be better to educate everyone? And if nobody had to struggle to have the basics: food, clothing, shelter, they'd have a much easier time focusing on education and civic duty.

Don't insult Saint-Just by comparing him to that girondist cuck.

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You are saying "shitty people" as if it's the same as another 8 years of Dubya when it'd lead to the arbitrary exploitation, repression and even genocide of people for objectively stupid reasons.

Even in monarchies, most good done by government was from constitutional legislatures.

Daily reminder to behead ALL royalty.

Technically a socialist monarchy is possible.