GPU General

She's plugging the video cable into the mobo, not the GPU that she was showing off.

I've been using a GT 740 for nearly 3 years now and still see no reason to upgrade.
Graphix whores are the worst cancer

Some mobos actually let you crossfire with the integrated graphics if you need an extra output.

Okay, my PC's mobo doesn't have a video slot. I knew something was off because the socket would be horizontal, not vertical, if the card was really used in the 2nd pic.

Nitro Fury I bought from a NewEgg sale months back. Might upgrade to Vega.

I am thinking about upgrading my CPU. Not sure if its worth to go from a I7-2600k which overclocks to 4.0 for the new AMD cpu.

I would have to swtich the MOBO and the CPU, and mounting a MOBO is always sketchy, at least too me. I worry about shorting out the board but accident.

If you upgrade to a new intel, you would still need to change the mobo.

your socket is 1155, latest intel ones are 1151. You'd still need a new mobo

I had both a nvidia card back then and a amd card, and both of them suck. I had my first nvidia card back then when physx started back then, don't remember which one, and I use amd since years.

I will probably buy amd again since my current screen supports freesync but I hate both of them. Nvidia are a bunch of jews and amd is full of faggots.

I use a Radeon HD 7950, and have been since 2012. I'll be getting another AMD card in the $250-300 range when they launch the Vega products this year, in conjunction with a 2560x1440 monitor. Were it not for the resolution bump, I'd just keep the 7950 for another 5 years. It doesn't struggle with anything at 1920x1080.

The new AMD chips have IPC roughly on par with Haswell, so you'd definitely see a clock-to-clock performance gain plus more threads to work with depending on the model. Whether it's enough of a gain to justify upgrading (to either Intel or AMD) is yours to decide. Do thorough research. I have an i5 3570K, and for a multitude of reasons I'll be getting a Ryzen 5 1600X to replace it.

This is a very convenient thread to ask.
so I am gonna get around 470$ extra next month that I can spend on anything and I am thinking about upgrading my 750ti to a 1070. my problem is I have a 1367*766 monitor so I am not sure if I am gonna be using the 1070 power.

There's no point to. A 1070 is overkill even for 1080p. Unless you're getting a 1440p monitor, there's no reason to get such an overkill card. Of course, you could get it and then get a new monitor later on. Your choice.

Anyone who wants a mid-range card and considering anything but an RX 470 or 480 is faggots. The GTX 1050 and 1060 suck. If you are getting Nvidia, get 1070 or better, otherwise, AMD.

Right now I use shitty old laptop GPU. I'm going to build new computer next month though. Probably getting RX 570 or 580. Anything else would be overkill for me.

280. Might upgrade to the 580, but I dunno

Tell me more.

I'd vouch for their CPUs tho

i am curios, what games can you play with that card that are post 2010

The card came out in 2014, so most of them. Only lately have I been encountering issues

really? i thought it was super ancient since i saw a lot pop up on ebay for cheap like $30

what the fuck are you smoking nigga

It's only two generations behind, almost three. Not that old, but worth upgrading.

When's Vega.

So a 1070 + 1367*766 monitor or an rx 480 + 1920*1080 monitor ?

The monitor is the better and more important upgrade regardless of what card you pair it with.

Latter.

If you upgrade your monitor you'd even be impressed with what your emails look like.

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1070 is leagues better than the 480.
You can just upgrade your monitor later. But upgrading from a 480 to 1070 would just be dumb. On a long-term, I think it would be best to get the 1070, and just save for a decent monitor later.

So think about what you need the most right now. Higher resolution or better performance?

Every time Eddie played a heel he looked like he was dealing with crippling existential depression

I've never had a high resolution monitor so I never thought they were a problem.
I had a lot of performance problems with the latest AAA games tho.

GTX 560Ti
it can run all the good games

Double of truth.

Hi guys, what games can I play with this PC?

none poorfag get a better pc

Blurry ones.

are you a child?

gonna get an rx580 when it comes out if its the same price as an rx480 when it was released

no modern games ill tell you h'what.

wait, what happened to the rx490? AMD will only release mid tier cards from now on?

I'm planning on getting a 1060 6gb mini Zotac
Unless the 570 8gb is better and around the same price

rx490 isnt out yet
so its probably gonna released as the rx580 or rx590

Hey guys, I just got my new apple™© computer and I can't wait to play games in only the highest resolution possible.

I feel bad for poor PC peasants and their more expensive platform with Windows™© 10 always spying on them. :^)

there won't be an RX 490, there will be Radeon RX Vega in a couple of months which will be the high-end card

RX 500 series is re-badges, although RX 580 does use a re-spun Polaris 10 called Polaris 20 which thanks to refinements in the process tech at globalfoundries should be able to hit higher clocks (~1500 MHz) which will put it closer to the GTX 1070 than the GTX 1060 which the RX 480 currently competes against

Radeon RX Vega will come in 4GB and 8GB versions with 1 or 2 stacks of HBM2, the 8GB version should punch a little below the 1080 Ti while the 4GB version should be similar to the GTX 1080 or a little below

source: I work for a taiwanese graphic card company

Any larger and it only ends up being filled with porn, why bother? Another 2.5TB I still have laying around.

I thought the 16nm process used for those would be slightly different so they don't eat as much power.

hybrid crossfire is not really a thing; you can use a low-end older radeon with some older APUs but it sucks and it's not really even any faster than using the low-end radeon by itself, nevermind that those older low-end radeons are slower than even an RX 460 which you can pick up for a hundred bucks

you CAN use onboard intel graphics alongside a radeon or geforce card although SOME geforce drivers in the past have disabled GPU PhysX when doing this because nvidia are retarded; I don't think the current drivers do this

less power used at the same speed = more speed at the same power

It was a joke about modern games which now seem to be pushing 25 GB at the very minimum. With a whole bunch being at the 50+ GB mark. Its absolute insanity.

RX480
Hell no

You're right about that user. I have Gears 4 installed and it's over 100GB. GTAV was 60GB but I was too lazy to do the prologue again and remember what a waste of time GTA Online will be no matter how good a PC you have so I got rid.

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Uplay is Wildlands, came free with the 1080. I don't buy Ubishit. It's garbage.

;(

pcpartpicker.com/list/4fyzRG

under $600, has 3TB HDD and SSD for windows, Pentium G4560 and RX 480 will run every game that exists on 1080p ultra settings just fine

$600 isn't "nothing" but it's literally 1 month at mcdonald's

More like 1 week at Ralphs. Coachella fest has started and I'm working overtime everyday. Granted, a lot of Hollywood jews come, but it's nice.

i understand but i got real life duties to fullfill as well, believe me if i din't have those duty's i would have builded a 1000$ pc

1080 Ti
Nah, I am pretty happy with my system now but I might add storage or change the cooling to be more silent.

Question
Is it true that the 4k Benchmarks are heavily weighted for Ultra settings and most cards can do 4k on medium/high?
I wanted to buy a new monitor but I wasn't actually sure what the level of performance degradation would be on my 8gb 480

Is it worth getting more than a 1080p screen?

Every benchmark I see is done with max settings at said resolution.
So if the mark goes like 30 fps or so on 4k, I'm pretty sure you can hit 60 with med-low settings

if you have money to spend on upgrades spend it on replacing that godawful CPU

my best friend has an R9 290X and he plays most games in 4K at 40-50 FPS on high settings (not ultra)

RX 480 is similar to R9 290X in performance

Rate the PC I frankensteined, it started as a shit dell from best buy.

super shitty APU is badly overheating
take that R9 390 and stick it in a worthy PC like an intel or ryzen box, bulldozer family chips are literal trash

picrelated, the FX-8370 is much faster than your CPU

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How retarded can one person be? Maybe if it's on sale, but the price/performance ratio is best at the 1060 6GB. This entire thread is full of retards who don't know anything about tech. Like most things, this is another case were Holla Forums are full of mouth breathers.

Next some nigger is going to tell someone to upgrade when they're current card still in the same tier as new gpus.

hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/73945-gtx-1060-vs-rx-480-updated-review.html

pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/#c=373,370&r=8192,6144&sort=a8&page=1

they are the same price and the same performance, the RX 480 will only get faster as time goes on; you also get 2GB more VRAM and the RX 480 handles higher resolutions better due to having wider engine and wider memory bus

GTX 1060 6GB vs. RX 480 8GB is arguable but for someone who's really value-conscious the real win is the RX 480 4GB because it's under $200 and fast as hell

You tell me.
Look at the games' benchmarks. They're both pretty even and the RX480 is still cheaper

gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1060-6GB-vs-AMD-RX-480/3639vs3634

You should assume that all benchmarks represent a "worst case scenario" as they're designed to stress the card to the limit of its abilities. However, I still see no reason to go all the way to 4K unless maybe you require the pixel density for specific graphic work. It serves no purpose in 99% of games which are designed for 1920x1080 unless you enjoy the look of lazy upscaling.

I didn't see say anything about the RX 480, it's the card I have. I was comparing the overpriced 1060 6GB to the even more ridiculously overpriced 1070. Learn to read.

Yea, no. The GTX 1060 was better at launch then the RX 480, but after a few driver updates, the 480 started kicking it's ass and it continues to improve. The GTX 1060 has stagnated since launch. That's why it got price cut so aggressively to match the price of the RX 480, because it's not as good and hasn't been since it's launch. People only pay attention to launch benchmarks and don't see how the cards mature.

The 1060 is garbage. Don't buy it.

read your post again and tell me your intention was clear? you didn't mention the 1070 either, fuckwit

anyway, what that user was saying was that you need to get an Nvidia card if you want a high-end GPU because AMD has nothing to compete, and that's true

durrr

You learn to read, fool.
You quoted this and argued it as if it was false
If you can admit that the RX480 is a better choice than the 1060 6GB, then that statement is correct.

Every time, kek.

Your post doesn't make sense at all.
If you're talking about how AMD lets you crossfire any gpu then you're right, but if the onboard isn't very close to the dedicated you're only losing performance.
If you mean about how you can use a motherboard's inputs with a dedicated gpu, that's true but it's very rare outside of linux and it works with any gpu.

The 1070 is much better than the 470, and with a monitor of that resolution you'll run basically anything with heavy supersampling and maxed out garphics. However if having more pixels matters a LOT to you get the 1080p monitor and a 480.

wut.

Your post makes no sense at all. I'll try answering anyway though, you'll be able to run any good game that ever came out in 4k with a 480 and at good settings, but if you play modernshit you'll probably have to lower the settings.

Only if you replace the CPU

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You're one sad little faggot.

Nope, didn't quote that part. I already said I have an RX 480 myself. Prove it to me. Screenshot it and post it.

no, you can do it on any version of Windows since 7 with any intel IGP since sandy bridge

sorry, I meant "use the IGP for extra display outputs while using a discrete GPU"

If you two are both done with your autism, let me explain. The GTX 1070 and 1080 have nothing to compete against on the AMD side. If are getting something that tier, then Nvidia is the ONLY choice, there is no argument to make.

At the same time, anything below that, the 480 vs 1060 and down, the AMD line-up consistently crushes Nvidia's offerings in price to performance and often over all performance. The 1060 benched better at launch, but has barely improved with driver updates, while the 480 and 470 have massively improved with each driver revision. The RX 480 and 470 are objectively superior to the GTX 1060 and 1050 and they continue to improve, while Nvidia is showing no sign of the same.

That's it. It's simple. Spending 200 or less? AMD, no question. Spending 300 or more? Nvidia, no question. It's not fucking hard.

Maybe that's because windows' implementation is shit, but you can do it with pretty much any gpu ever because it's as simple as writing frames directly to the framebuffer of the integrated gpu.

Aye, my CPU is the problem child of the part family, been meaning to replace it.
Thanks for the advice user.

Yeah my monitor was from scrap too, it was a hand me down.

if it's a toshiba HDTV it may have "dot by dot" mode that you can enable (on the TV itself) for a clearer picture

y…es?

Also even if the gpu is shitty enough not to support it (i'm guessing that would be intel's GMA series) it still means you can turn a frame into a texture and make a simple 2d scene that happens to have that texture occupy the whole screen.

Thanks, I had no idea.

Why can't you admit you fucked up instead of being the sad little bitch you are?

Don't put me in the same bag as him nigger

I could've sworn we had this exact same thread not that long ago.

Then calm down user. Here's some moe.

We did, with the same OP image.

My mobo is nearly a dinosaur in terms of modern gaming. My only option for AM3+ are the 8-cores and it's not worth it to upgrade at this point. I did get a cooler to overclock to 4.1ghz. My build's meant to last until at least 2020. Then, I'll make a new PC from scratch. Not sure which OS to use though.

intel integrated graphics 3000, contain your orgasms

My toaster finally died so I'm getting a Ryzen 7 1700 + RX480 4GB next week.
I was originally aiming for a i7 7700K, but then I found out the fucking kikes at Intel and Microsoft blocked off Windows 7 from running on that processor, so I moved to Ryzen instead.

I really don't know whether I should get the 4GB or 8GB version.

I have some bad news user

techreport.com/news/31741/updates-for-windows-7-and-8-1-on-kaby-and-ryzen-are-now-blocked

I can tell you are truly a scholar. Only the most intelligent of men could have produced such wise comments. Truly someone of intellect you must be

*tips fedora*

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Holy fucking shit
I mean I'm sure there's a way to bypass the block, but what the FUCK

*tips fedora*

tbh just pirate windows 10 enterprise LTSB

it's the best version of windows yet (yes, really) – no telemetry, no forced updates, no windows store or UWP bullshit, no cortana – it even has the old-school calculator

and you get all the conveniences of modern Windows

So is it blocking windows update or is it blocking the actual installation of drivers?
Because windows update is virtually fucking worthless for Windows 7/8.1

it's just windows update, you can still install and use the OS just fine

the concern is that you'll be missing security updates which can make your box vulnerable to hax0rz

if you don't care about that then by all means

with that said, as I said above, really, just get win10 LTSB. it's win10 without all the faggotry

The "block" is referencing drivers obtained via Windows Update. Don't get me wrong, Windows Update is actually a great way to get drivers for little things like System drivers/Chipset drivers automatically and they're usually fairly up-to-date as well, but if you don't get drivers from Windows Update it really shouldn't affect you

So, it's fucking nothing?
Most of those security updates are just definition updates for windows defender, that you can actually update without even having windows update enabled.

Will keep it in mind, thanks.
I will update when the time comes, but there's still the antivirus spyware that sends info about your files to Microsoft that you can't disable

Windows Update obtains and installs drivers for you for a lot of smaller chipset-related components, Microsoft will block Windows Update for this shit on Windows 7 with older. That's literally the only thing that's changed

Oh enlighten me then, jealous god of recognition! How can I lowly scholar undue the faggotry that is the kike block towards Windows 7 on Kaby Lake processors? Because I googled that shit for weeks and found no results at all.

Read the article. It talks about security updates.

Reminder that Ryzen and the latest Intel processors work perfectly well on Linux, and the open source AMD graphics drivers are rapidly improving in both speed and quality.

Yes, because Windows 7 Mainstream support is ending. Are you underage or are you too retarded to understand Microsoft has been doing this for decades?

Fucking idiot.
Those have backdoors as well. AMD's FX chips are the last chips with decent performance with no spyware nor backdoor.

There's nothing yoy can find on Google because a processor level OS-block doesn't exist you mouth-breathing idiot

Holy shit you're really fucking retarded. Good God.
First of all, mainstream support for Window 7 ended in 2015. What we're getting now is extended support until 2019, which still means security updates.
What the article says is that if you have a Ryzen processor you won't even get that extended support

No, you're right I'm the retarded one

There's also that recent batch of leaked NSA spyware that allows any faggot on the internet to hack into any Windows install. Totally nothing to worry about.

My current dumpster of a PC:
CPU: i5-2400 (3.4ghz)
GPU: Nvidia Gtx1050 (2gb vram)
WAM: 16gb ddr3

What I plan to get when I can afford it:
CPU: Amd Ryzen 1500X
GPU: Radeon rx 480 (Or vega GPU if they come out soon enough)
Wam: At least 16gb ddr4

I am arguing the substance you imbecile.
The argument is this: You said
I said this is wrong and the proof is in Microsoft's own statements. The argument is over and you're a faggot.

This. Use FX with Linux if you're paranoid

Well fuck me, I asked in five different places and they all said the same bullshit. Is it my fault I was fed false info?
I'm still sticking with Ryzen though.

RX Vega is early july for market availability, I don't recommend ryzen 5 processors because they are still using two CCX (core complexes) that communicate across the memory controller, just with half the cores and cache disabled

Who the fuck out it in your head Intel or AMD would implement an arbitrary OS block into their processors?

Naw naw, you're moving the goalposts now. The point is Windows 7 support is ending, which is true. But no man you're much smarter than me

I heard ddr4 ram was still pretty pricey, I wonder if the price will drop

This is false.
As I said twice before now, it has support until 2019.

Well, yes. I know when to pull back when I've obviously lost the argument and I don't make uninformed statements

same price as DDR3, and it's just ultimately superior all the way around

prices went up on RAM overall because there's only a few companies that make it and they're blatantly colluding to raise prices, but there's no government that cares enough to do anything

GTX 970. Bought it a few months before the 3.5 thing, unfortunately.
Not anytime soon. Eventually when I need to upgrade I'll probably get whatever AMD is offering, since I don;t want to give more shekels to Avaritia if I can help it.

Mainstream support for Windows 7 is over. Extended support is nearly over. Windows 7 support is ending. This is a fact, you want to actually argue or are you going to continue on with attacking the semantics of what I said like some screeching autist?

No, because the argument is done. I proved the block referenced security updates and not drivers, that was the argument and you got proved wrong so it's over.

GTX 750 ti
Eventually, but having a not-so-great GPU gives me more reason to optimize my shit and I should probably spend those shekels on a Nintendo Switch dev kit instead.

can you homos get a room please

I argued that the reason Windows 7 is being denied security updates was because support is ending. Which is true.

I guess the argument is over because you aserted it though. Retard. This shit is getting autistic anyways and its clear you have no intention of actually carrying it

If Windows 7 is really dying, as in MS is actively sabotaging it and whatever support it's got, then where the fuck do I go next? Linux is still not fully capable on its own and I fucking hate W10's interface and the fact it's slowly morphing into some sort of appstore.

*still not fully capable of gaming on its own

Oh yeah, move the goalpost to security updates and not drivers which is what I talked about. Great.
They have no reason to deny support to the new processors when they're still giving support to older processors until 2019. I'm sure someone will make a registry hack that enables those updates

Says the guy who can't let the argument go after being proved wrong. I said it like 4 times: the argument is over

Linux is compromised too, boo.

Planning to upgrade when 2nd gen vr headset comes out. Am4 and Vega GPU. Because Intel is Jewish and nivdia are assholes.

Currently rocking i5 2500k and r9 280x.

You can also log into most Linux machines by hitting backspace 28 times apparently

I'm planning on moving to Linux. Fuck Microsoft.

I'll play vidya using GPU pass through or wine. And run windows shits on a virtual machine.

windows 8.1 embed

I've asked this almost everywhere on the internet, how the fuck do I get rid of this shit? I've tried editing registry, doing some CMD, looking up processes and disabling, but it always comes back no matter what. Imagine being in a crucial moment while playing videogames and suddenly have microsofts big blue cock shoved in your face while you die behind the scenes.

why is life so expenisve

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YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

980Ti is more than sufficient for [email protected]/* */ or [email protected]/* */ unless you have no idea how to moderate settings so that you aren't wasting performance on 0.001% graphical improvements

also, what kind of a fucking nigger pays $1200 for wheels holy fucking shit my wheels were $80 a piece and those were the nice ones that came with hubcaps

4K @ 60 FPS nigger machine

Thank you so much user holy shit

which gen fag?

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Serves you right for buying overpriced German crap.

Does it matter, fag?

Protip, it doesn't.

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i just wanted to bully him on different degrees depending on what beemer shitbox he has

x 1000

this can't be healthy
it works again

I used to carefully measure out thermal paste and smear with a credit card but heck, as long as it doesn't get all over the slot and mobo I guess. Will my PC cause a nuclear explosion because of this?

still waiting for the $30 settlement on my 970, fucking nvidia.

Could sell your used dragon dildos tbh

no, it's completely fine as long as temperatures are OK, but if you used metallic paste make sure it doesn't get on anything that will short out

the best way to do it is simply put a small amount of paste (like a large grain of rice) and smush it with the heatsink

thermal paste is a much worse conductor of heat than metal-on-metal, the goal is simply to fill in microscopic air gaps not to create a layer between the heatsink and the CPU, that will drastically worsen thermal performance

you want as little as possible without missing too much

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I see now, thanks for the info.

480 4gb or 1060 gb?

1060 6gb*

1060 6GB although if you have the money for that should get a 480 8GB

That settlement is funny as fuck namely because it involves all sides except nvidia themselves not knowing anything at all about the subject. And the reason why that's funny is that it is exactly what nvidia tried to exploit with false marketing and exactly what got back at them.

Would a 430w PSU be enough for either and an i5 ivy bridge?

yes, easily, as long as it's good quality (80 PLUS Bronze or better – avoid 80 PLUS units without a "metal" after, or units without 80 PLUS cert)

Just get a preactivated version from extratorrent.cc the latest updated version of wincucks10 is already there. Easy as pie to set up. Also use rufus to create the install usb . I tried other programs and they fucked up.

The guys who came up with 80 PLUS must be rolling in dosh. What a fantastically successful marketing gimmick for a part that previously had none.

t. Heden/Advance marketer

they are pretty good especially in laptops

Except before you didnt had a way to reliably know if a psu was made with good parts besides reading reviews. I had bought 2 "good" cooler master psus in tje times before the 80plus meme and over a couple years each one failed. One got too weak and the other just died. Then I bought a Corsair 80plus bronze about 6 years ago and it is still working like a charm. Coincidence? I think not

Just buy a Windows 10 OEM key on ebay. They cost 10-20 dollars at most.

It's not necessarily a bad thing. It does cut down a lot of time spent reading and filtering through anecdotal reports to find useful information. There are still shitty OEMs that pass cert with shitty parts that make unreliable pieces of shit, though.

See, you didn't do enough research.

True but the worst you can realistically expect is ripple, target voltage being kinda crappy and the PSU dying in a couple years not shit like embed related.

Aren't their high end shit FSP manufactured?
it's not the best but FSP stuff ain't that bad.

sick a console war thread
but its OK cuz its about PC shit

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Can you actually pick up a 1070 for $300 in US or is this some kind of meme math?

I got one 1070 founder edition for $320, my case have shitty ventilation and it looks nice don't bully.

Is Radeon RX 470 a better choice than GTX 1050 Ti, or GTX 1060 for that matter?

nigga that thing is like $10 or $20 from a 480, just sell some shit you don't need right now or wash your dad's car for that extra if you are some neet

40 eurodollars more. And for that matter, it would make an 80€ difference between 1050 Ti and RX 480.

A 470 is about 25% stronger than a 1050Ti and about 25% weaker than a 6GB 1060.

Using GTX770, I'd upgrade but I need to convert savings to currencies and save for when socialism memes end with hyperinflation and despair.

depends on what you plan on using it for
avoid AMD if you wanna go deep into emulation.

1920x1080 is pretty ideal for the 1070 if you're going to 144hz, otherwise it's recommended to go 1440p

Can somebody explain to me why nvidia cant anymore into drivers now?

I got a RX 470 because my 7850 died, but now my FX 6300 is holding it back

I decided to use Linux and play consoles for everything that doesn't work.

I've always been a physicalfag anyway.

Did you overclock it yet? The reason I buy overclockable parts is so that I can squeeze more shelf life out of them once they start running slow.

Do you not know how to work a screw driver?

spend that money on a 480 or a 1060 and a decent 1080p monitor

doesn't look too dumpstery tbh

I'm never giving up windows 7. If you switch over just because Microcock$ are threatening to cut off support, dx 12 and kaybee lake compatibility, then you're acting like a lemming.

Why not jump ship to linux or pirate win 10? Just seems like you're fucking yourself over in this situation.

Use Linux for as many games as you can, use Windows 10 when you absolutely have to. Linux just gets more and more support, you'll only end up spending more and more time in Linux. I dual boot, I only need Windows for new games, and most of them suck.

the waiting is killing me, I bought a new computer last year in august. Fucking Holla Forums told me that the upcoming rx480 would be their high end card so I build a new computer with everything except for a gpu (used my old amd 6950) because I thought I would go with the rx480 which was supposed to be released any moment back then.

Turned out the rx480 was only a mid end card, so I am since then waiting for amd's high end card. Freaking shit is pissing me off. The problem is when I put money aside, I tend to waste it.

I'm waiting for either my pc to explode or to have enough money to build an entirely new one, smaller, with a mini-motherboard that I can put on top of my desk instead of below.

And even then I'm not sure it's happening like that. I think it'll be a part by part thing, so my GTX 660ti still has a lot of juice left in it, considering I turn off blur and depth of field in all games I play.

I also have no clue what the best artstation/3dDev/gaming/mini gaming build is any suggestions would be fine.

Fucking manchildren

just get ddr3 ram. you could build a computer for the cost of 16gb of ddr4.

Ryzen 1600 6 core with an ASRock motherboard. Keep your PSU, graphics card, case, heat sinks (if possible), storage devices, fans, etc. Upgrade graphics card in a little bit.

What does ASRock have that Asus doesn't?

Aren't HDDs 2TB and above unstable? Or at least have a higher failure rate? Or is my info outdated?

was never true in the general case

you can't install an OS to a larger-than-2TB HDD without using a different disk format (GPT vs. MBR format classically used) but you should be on GPT+UEFI anyway

lol, speaking as an AMD fan, tbh if you have the money just get a 1080[Ti], Vega isn't going to be competitive with the higher-end pascal parts in terms of perf/watt and while it might be slightly better price/perf is it really worth waiting another 3 months?

I have a pair of fury x cards and I am considering moving to a 1080 or similar myself even though I don't like nvidia as a company

better to pick up a $199 RX 580 8GB

seems like a fair point at first but the difference is that yours is the choice of 2 bad options while both of these choices ultimately lead to the same place

I would argue that FSP group is in fact one of the very best PSU OEMs

I meant 4GB

I meant for general storage, whether internal or external. I might've rushed into getting another 1TB HDD instead of getting a 2TB one (preferably that WD Black). I suspect that if I were to move stuff (everything that aren't games; it'd be too big a pain in the ass to reinstall elsewhere) to the other drive, that would be strapped for space too. And the less stuff I put on the SSD, the better.

Nigger, eurozone. Everything's at least 100 bucks more here.

I ordered a 144hz monitor. I saw that rx500s just came out. I feel bad for upgrading early now.

sorry? it doesn't change the value proposition much

get an RX 480 over a 570 tho

they're just the 400s with a tiny clock bump

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Is more than 4gb really necessary for 1080p gaming?

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on different PCs of course

I'm still using a 760. It's aged like milk.
Currently waiting for Vega.

Woah, everybody look at rich boy over here!

I think I'm going to go with integrated next. It's enough for the games I play.

GTX980
Waiting to see what becomes of Vega, 980 is fine at 4K for most games that I play currently, I've had no interest in any recent demanding AAA titles. M&B2 is the only upcoming title I am interested in for the time being which will likely run even on a potato.
I do own a Vive HMD however which is fairly demanding and can do with more grunt to crank the settings up and get more out of its displays.

Another reason is that I use GPU passthrough and play games on a windows VM, passing Nvidia gpu back to linux host OS is a massive hassle, it is easier to do with AMD cards apparently read of a few people pulling it off with a 290X.
Nvidia has also been actively fucking with GPU passthrough giving error code 43 when windows is detected running in a VM to get businesses buying their expensive quadro GPUs which coincidentally do not have this "bug".
There is a simple workaround for now, but I am concerned that they will continue to fuck with virtualization on their gaming cards. None of the AMD cards have this issue, I hear the open source AMD drivers are improving on linux as well which should make life easier in addressing OS related problems.

The 1080Ti on the other hand has SMP for optimization in VR (reduces amount of pixels being rendered that get discarded when warping the image to match the optics), which I am interested in if the performance gain is worthwhile. Few games in my library make use of it though, and it is likely that a hardware agnostic approach yielding similar results will be released anyway either by game engine devs, or VR API like SteamVR.
Nvidia's freak reaction of releasing a second Titan card and announcing their next lineup of GPUs early on increases my interest in putting off a 1080Ti upgrade and waiting to see what Vega has to offer.

If it turns out to be a disappointment then I can either wait on the next lineup or grab a 1080Ti especially if it receives an enticing price drop.

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GTX980, don't plan on upgraded until at least 3 more years. Want to pick up a second one when they get cheaper and run them in SLI. My main use for it is video editing/encoding. I still game at 1080p and don't see the need to go to 4K/VR for a few more years. I generally just max out everything in a game's settings and it runs all of the ones I play with no problems. I mostly play older /fightan/, some modern /fightan/, SHUMPs, and older FPS games. I also emulate a lot of stuff but since I'm a child of the 8-bit/16-bit generations nothing ever gets close to stressing the GPU/CPU. I'm thinking about emulating some newer stuff though. I already emulate Wii for TvC and Dreamcast for Project Justice but I want to see how PS2 emulation is on this machine.

Just got a new cooler for my CPU to replace the stock piece of shit. Going to see how well this CPU overclocks the next time I get a day off. Need to tear down the tower, dust it, and clear up my wire management.

My next upgrade is probably just going to be an entirely new machine. Will probably give this one away to a friend when I build that. Going to make sure to get something that plays well with GPU passthrough in Linux so I can just run Windows in a VM and be done with having it on bare metal. Waiting to see how the new server line of AMD CPUs are. If they're good I'll wait a little while for them to come down in price then build a new machine around that.

Next upgrade is a new laptop though. My old one is nearly dead and I need one when my home network is having issues (I wired up an entire farm back to one cable modem) or when I do tech support for the family/normalfag friends.

What's a legitimate reason for getting higher tier hardware?
Modern games are shit, and graphical advancements are being pushed away for shitty VR projects.
There's no reason to get 1080's, Titan's or whatever,
because there would be nothing to play that wouldn't run fine with a 960 or around.

For running games at higher resolutions and higher refresh rates.
Hell, the only way I could get nier automata to run at a stable 60fps Not counting the framedrops from loading was to overclock my gpu. I'm not even running the game at 1080p, I'm running it at 1600x900. I would probably have to get a 1070 if I wanted to run it at 4k on the highest settings.

still running a 7850, no reason to upgrade, there's been no good PC games in years.

Why must you spread lies, fag?

I said PC games.

Here we go again

I don't really want to keep playing stalker and mount & blade mods for the rest of eternity. They're fine games, they don't really require demanding hardware however so I don't have a reason to upgrade.

And there are good PC games that came out recently. have fun not playing Ace Combat 7 when it comes out.

could just play them on consoles really. lots of issues with some of the pc versions for those games too. not worth the headache.

bayonetta is from 2008 i think, dunno why you'd think I'd care.

Even with a 960, Nier Automata performs better than what it would on a PS4. So why would I play it on my PS4 rather than on my PC?
Also how would you play spark on consoles when it's a pc only release?
It's broken free from the limitations of the 360/ps3 and can now be played without any frame drops at 60fps and at higher resolutions. So now it doesn't run like shit.

didn't really run like shit on the 360, just less than optimal. It's 10 years. All you're giving me is weebshit. console weebshit. Give me a real PC game.

What?

Wait for it lads.

but I just bought myself a freesync 1440p screen, I have to go with amd this time. Also I had nvidia cards in the past, I don't want to support those jews anymore. AMD is kinda jewish too sometimes, but I say they are a little bit less jewish than nvidia.

you are listing console ports of japanese games. give me PC games, not ports.

Oh geez, thanks. Sooooo many good examples to chose from!

Here's a good non japanese game that was made for PC.

actual weebshit? its on ps4 and vita btw. how about a real PC game.

Every AMD GPU I've owned I've regretted it.

Mostly because AMD GPUs tend to put up a middle finger to backwards compatibility. And it tends to be random which games it shits a brick with. Like for the longest time I was unable to run Max Payne 1 without framedrops.

Now I can't run Star Trek Voyager Elite Force without having sub 20 fps, Elite Force 2 barely runs at all and runs at like 10 fps. These games run on my Nvidia card flawlessly.

With EF1 I was only able to fix it by downloading a special dll from a really old ati driver and putting it into the game's folder. But even then that didn't fix it 100% when I tried it after reformatting it. Elite Force 2 I was never able to fix.

Oh shit I'm sorry, I'm thinking of the wrong kind of "PC". Is this game "PC" enough for you?

yes, this suits exactly what I'd expect and exactly why I stopped upgrading

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Great, thanks. I can rest easy, gaming has been restored to pre-07 levels of glory.

i7-3770
Nvidia GTX 1050
16gb DDR3
~2tb storage space (1tb Linux and 1tb Botnet10 partition)
Garbage Linksys PCI wireless card
750 wat PSU
Shitty Gigabyte LGA1155 Motherboard
Some shitty DVD burner
Some shitty black case with blue LEDs

What should I change?
I plan on dumping the whole thing and building a Ryzen/Vega machine later.

Either actually buy Windows or get out. I use Linux as a daily driver and even I can pirate and use windows better than you. Sad!

Seems good enough. The 1050ti is a good card if you do 1080p gaming. If you get a vega/ryzen build, wait a few years for cheaper parts and maybe some games to take advantage of it. And maybe by then you will probably have a 4k monitor or some shit.

This. I use it on my laptop and it's really good tbh.

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Only the GPU. Your CPU, properly OCd, would still be good for years

If I buy more ram to add to my PC, does it need to be exactly the same make/model as what's currently in there? Do I really need more than 8gig of ram?

Is FX-9590 good?

no (though you will want to make sure it's at least as fast as your old ram to prevent it from throttling itself) and probably not.
just fine out what your peak ram usage is, open task manager, and if it's below 7 gb you're fine.

no, it was over priced shit even before ryzen. all it is is a fx-8350 with an included water-cooler

why not 480 8gb?

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yeh I don't like NV either but AMD just has nothing to compete right now

yes. even at that price it is overpriced garbage a kaby lake pentium will trash it in every game and compete or beat it in almost any other task

Do not buy pre-ryzen cpus, it's only a toaster sentence that will result in a $300 bill later.

The FM2+ socket is still good for extreme budget builds. FX processors should be avoided altogether. They have a poorly designed FPU architecture. Anyone building a system today should just get a Ryzen 5 1400 if they want to go with AMD for anything over $500.

With most games, performance is dependent on a small number of features that can be tweaked. Many of the settings do not affect performance in a major way. The settings that have the highest cost do not always have the largest impact on visual quality. For instance, Fallout 4's graphics settings are absolutely retarded. Go from Ultra to High and it limits render distance severely and drops several options that do not impact performance. Many cards can actually play the game at Ultra for most settings and at maximum render distance if two settings are lowered, render distance for shadows and god rays. GPUs are limited by their shader processing. That is often wasted on effects that are overused.

Your PC is nowhere near a dumpster. Also don't do that "upgrade". All you'll do is is swap your cpu with one that uses less power and will have worse performance in all games except ones that can make use of all cores and a gpu that uses much more power while performing slightly better. Wait a few years before you get new parts.

That's true but it's not like AMD ever had good FPUs. Compare any AMD cpu with any intel cpu on superpi and you'll be left wondering why a much worse performing intel part gets 4x the performance of the amd part when doing floating point math.

do not buy pre-ryzen amd cpus, period. It's just stupid and will only end up costing you more money later on.

If you needed more than 8gb you would know, 8gb is fine for now so long as your aren't getting RAM stutter.

The make/model doesn't necessarily matter, but both RAM should run at the same speed e.g. the faster RAM will run slow as the slower one (I don't know about the RAM timings however).
Yes, you need 12gb of RAM. I've seen some games will use more than 8.

Even the Athlon X4 845?

They'll increase.

Okay user here's a tip for a lifetime: NEVER, EVER GET AN I7. They perform EXACTLY like an i5 in most tasks (0 of them are gaming) unless it's one of the extreme editions which normally don't get i5 versions. If you need an i7 and the differences of an i7 benefit you in any way, you'd know you need an i7. It's one of those things where if you learn about them, you probably need them, and even if you didn't need them you'd know it because you just learned why. You should've gotten a better GPU and a slightly lower end unlocked i5 (the difference between all i3 model numbers, all i5 model numbers and all i7 model numbers (save for extreme editions) is a few mhz of clockspeed and cache. Which do mean your cpu will perform slightly worse but the cost to performance ratio is much better and the unlocked models can overclock.

Yeah. Even the lowest end intel dual cores (that aren't the piece of shit they call atom) will perform better than any AMD dual core. They really dropped the ball in recent years.

Whoops, on the i7 vs i5 part I meant to say that the tasks i7s perform better than i5s at are never gaming. And i meant to say intel dual cores vs AMD quad cores. I should go to sleep

This, I have an i5 6600 and it runs everything I throw at it perfectly.

For me it was games development.

I've got a single gtx 770. torn between picking up another for sli or just getting a 1080 and being done with buying gpus for a while

don't, its a bad value and you get additional issues like microstutter with some games.

yeah I'm leaning towards a single card solution so I can free my other PCI slut to stick an SSD in

I hope that is not idle

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wait for vega faggots

150 - 300 dollars on a gimped card now is 150 - 300 you could have had towards vega

100% this. As soon as the midrange Vega cards come out, you'll be golden until 4k becomes the standard. probably

Checked.

Fucking degenerate.

I'm currently using a R9 Nano. I would like to upgrade. I have a FreeSync monitor, so I am waiting on AMD to launch Vega.If it disappoints, I will buy a 1080 Ti and call it a day.

AMD HD 7970 3GB
Probably give it another year or two, I'll eventually do a new build with a Ryzen or newer Intel processor and DDR4 ram. My current build's about 7-8 years old not counting the 5-year-old card, and yet it still serves me very well.

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Pretty well balanced as far as buying a FX series goes. If your RAM is recent you should overclock it.

Just bought the 1700x. Can't wait to get rid of my 4690k.

it works every tim

why?

It's alright, not planning to upgrade in a good while now, it can run all the games I want to play.

I just built a 1600 system, got the more expensive x370 motherboard on the off chance later am4 releases will just werk. Was using a i7-950 until now. Long haul best haul.

it's an upgrade if he does lots of video encoding or something

downgrade for gaming tho, unless he can get a big-boy overclock on it **but he can't because ryzen is overclocked at stock speeds*

Like said I do a lot of video shit, and it takes up a lot of my time with the current CPU I have. Also I want to be able to stream more than FFIX.

yah the ryzen chip will do nice make sure you stick the fastest RAM you can find in it and use single-rank DIMMs if possible, DDR4-2933 is the gold standard but 3200 and even 3500 are possible with a little persistence

on ryzen the memory frequency is also the speed of the "data fabric" which connects the two core complexes (each 4C + 8MB L3 module on the chip, of which there are two on all AM4 Ryzen chips) so faster memory has a HUGE effect on the performance of tasks that have to be split across both CCXes

Oh thanks for the heads up user. I got some DDR4-2400 from a buddy of mine, but when my next paycheck comes in I'll definitely look into it.

Heads up for people getting 1600 and below, they can't do more than 3000mhz ram. Dunno if there will be an update that fixes it or if that's just how it is.

Probably gonna switch to Ryzen when Vega finally arrives.

Speaking of DDR4. There are people who treat DDR3 as worthless already. I managed to get 3 8GB sticks that got my ram from 8GB to 32GB (one went unused) for free because some idiot thought they were worthless. The only issue is how much they mismatch, one was a 1866mhz i forgot what latency, the other 1600mhz CAS9, the other 1333mhz CAS8 and the other 1600mhz CAS10. But after some overvolting I run all 4 at 1600mhz CAS9

Should I even wait for an AMD GPU to come out, or should I just go for the 1080ti?

You don't need a Vega to play 1080p maxed.

CPU and FPU units used to be separate 8086 (CPU) and 8087 (FPU) processors. Pentiums combined both into a single processor. If you were to say CPU core, it doesn't necessarily include the FPU. AMD's previous architecture was 2 CPU cores and 1 FPU core. AMD did this to cut costs, but they also did it because computers generally perform more integer operations than floating point operations. Unfortunately, that isn't true for games. Ryzen has the same number of FPU cores as it does CPU cores, and the FPU cores are far improved over earlier processors. I'd agree to dump all other AMD processors for Ryzen when you can. FX processors shouldn't be considered at this point. They aren't enough of a deal to justify their purchase. FM2+ socket will be obsolete once Ryzen APUs are available.

They are worthless for people to waste time selling. I've bought computers and monitors off of companies for a couple dollars. They just want someone to take it off their hands.

I actually aggregated shit for a friend who was looking into themm and it was 36% better in average compared to the ti(did'nt bother comparing it to the 1060)

exanima is pretty great even if it has a steep learning curve but it is early access

Dont mind if I do.