What are some good games with political messages?

What are some good games with political messages?
Hard mode: What are some good games with political messages that you disagree with?

Can videogames be a good medium for giving political messages or should devs never try?

There's no such thing. They're all shit because I say so and my word is final.

I always thought the song "Concept of love" from Jetset Radio was a message about how the government shouldn't prohibit free love until an user told me the director of the game just put in random english words he didn't understand into a blender and liked the way it sounded.

It's not a good medium for it. Sure, it has the potential to be done really well, but very few people ever actually succeed at it and in many cases it is by accident.

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Pic unrelated obviously.

I agree dues ex is shit kek

No, at least not in the sense of furthering an agenda, because a game is only as good as its interactivity, and anything that tries to push a certain political agenda won't have a full spectrum of interactivity unless the devs are really even-handed.
That said, a game that just replicates the circumstances of an issue, such as Prison Architect and privatized prisons, can do well as both a video game and a political message.

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If they only promote NatSoc, then yes.

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What if a game does it through example like bringing the player to the fucked up parts of Africa and shows the player the real shit that goes down there and how it effects the citizens. Or doing MGS style by showing that nuclear deterrence don't work against terrorists.

Ace Combat 5

Moon Doom

I'm surprised there's been no whining about "muh Islamophobia" given the suicide bomber enemies introduced in chapter 3.

That's basically every asian music.

What's the story behind this ?

C&C: Generals
game made in 2003 predicted everything happen after 2016

Not the sharpest bad dragon in your mom's drawer, eh?

The original Deus Ex made me give up being a libertarian.

Care to explain user?

Yeah, you should explain, that would be interesting to read, Deus Ex actually renforced my believes.

Skyrim

But that's not a good game.

But that's not a good game.

But that's not a good game.

MGS3 is pretty cool, but you already have MGS1 listed.

but that's not a good game

But that's a fucking shit game.

But this game is too good for this world.

Fire Emblem 4. If you play entire game, it has themes of it's nationalism and anti-Globalism, but it's grey because a lot of rival factions are misled into fighting you.

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Nah it's just feudal shit. Alien came and gave you weapons while the emporer comes to kill the last of you. You fight back because no one likes the emporer and he is colluding with evil. Also he fucked your mom.

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To sum it up, it's your standard millenial "old conservatives want to remain backwards because they're scared of change". It's discovered that they're operating a cult. Shouldn't be a surprise there since devs are antifa supporters.

However, the game revolves around you interacting with parents, your old friends, and the inhabitants of a town. For this reason, people think that the story is good because it's grounded in reality. It has no fail states, but the storytelling is done in an interactive way as opposed to watching a cutscene or listening to an activated audiofile in first person a la Gone Home and Firewatch. It's pretty grey when it younger characters, but it's pretty black and white when it comes to older characters. ("conservatives are bad for the sake of being bad yadayada").

Arvis and other factions were misled into fighting you because they were informed that your actions were done for power as opposed to defending yourself.

PUT YOUR GRASSES ON

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But that's a game that's only worth it for the sex mods

Bioshock 1 and 2?

New Vegas

A three way political fist fight between the only ideologies that matter.

Thirding this.

That's a good song fuck off

Fuck off poltard

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I am not sure if you are trying to be ironic because your pic is actually a great example of one.

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the whole thing is lefty bullshit about muh environment

But that game is way too good for Holla Forumseddit.

I'm sure plenty of those exist

You're not asking the right question, the question you should be asking is Do good games whose primary objective is to send a political message exist?

The answer is always no because those types of games are inherently fallacious because they will by nature always attack a political strawman.

Trails in the Sky/Trails of Cold Steel comes down hard on the pro-fascist side of things (Olivert's Third Way and all that), but I still think Ouroboros did nothing wrong.

You couldn't be further from the truth retard, just because you think hippies cared for it doesn't mean it's a bad thing, are you saying you wants animals and trees to slowly wither out and then fucking die with large factories taking their place. Blood and soil.

They won't die out you tard. Stop believing everything the rabbi tells you

I can't say much about that game since I've never played it. But I do not think being pro-environment is necessary leftist. It depends on your perspective I think
Is leftist vs
Is more right-leaning

Political environmentalism is just an excuse to impose world government and smother the remaining embers of man beneath jewry.

Yes goyim! Fight more wars in the Middle East for Israel and we reward you with more oil goyim!

Fuck off kike.

A rightist perspective also incorporates the respect of the land you live on because it provides your nutrients, housed your own kind for generations ad infinity, and is simply your land.

Fucking how, wouldn't using your own resources oppose one world government because you aren't reliant on anyone and boost your own economy.

All of the environmental legislation of the last hundred plus years hasn't kept us out of foreign entanglements. I somehow doubt additional solar and wind capabilities will cause us to withdraw when the destruction of several continents did not.

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Also
Speak for yourself burger.

Persona 5. I'm surprised that the sjws are creaming themselves over the game. It's basically a millennial wet dream.
As much as I hate the Holla Forums stuff damn the game is just too much fun to hate. The music, the combat, the dungeons, and the stylish look of everything is just too good.

You completely miss the damn point then. "Enviormentalism" as a political movement has nothing do with environmental conservation.

It's not political it's purposefully modeled after naive and angsty teenage world views, it's a high school movie.

I'm not speaking of political environmentalism I'm speaking of actual environmentalism, we are on the same page friend :).

MGS series, Persona 4 and 5(although the message is a bit convoluted), Emil's arc in Nier, Sniper Ghost Warrior 4, Mother 3, Deus Ex Mankind Divided, Hotline Miami series, MGR, and several arcade games that tried to shove DEA propaganda down my throat as a kid.

kill yourself anytime.

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Deus Ex.

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Remember, someone got paid to do that.

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SJWs don't play such old games with ugly graphics.

Indeed fellow goy

Only niggers don't care about environement and destroy their natural habitat. Just look at Australia.

I think everyone on this board has already played deus ex, or at least they should. There needs to be a "must play" chart of the essential games to play before you even post here.

There are, don't have it on me at the moment, but here's a related chart.

>Game starts without any type of currency, almost a classless society

The game SEEMS pretty bluepilled, though, when you see the pig army as Jewish controlled US troops, it makes some more sense.
I don't disagree with this, but I do feel like it was to take a jab at capitalism, which is a flawed system, but it's functional.

Ultimately, the message feels ambiguous enough to make you enjoy it regardless of what you support. I'm surprised not enough people talk about the messages on this game.

Add to the list partner.

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This needs narrowing down to one or two games a genre.

is that real as that actually made me a bit sick

Am I supposed to take this as "you are a jew/jews supporter because you have libertarian views" ?
I'm genuinely interested in his experience with Deus-Ex too.

Impossible mode: What are some good games with political messages that aren't also forced.

Because we all know the SJW's love doing this in people's faces with games now.

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In my Opinion it's Jews taking over the traditional ayran way

I don't agree with DOOM's message that demons should be killed.

Ethnic Cleansing

Open world survival bullshit like DayZ and whatnot through the natural evolution of player tendencies.

Survival of the fittest. I guess this is what Rocket meant when he said DayZ is flawed at the core.

Shin Megami Tensei IV (It's a good game, just not a good sequel.)

Persona 4 (See above)

t. a demon

But what if a game has multiple routes through it which further different agendas? The closest example off the top of my head might be how DX:Human Revolution lets you pick sides in the transhuman debate. Or maybe different campaigns like GDI Vs Nod count better

I want to cum deep inside Jontrons hairy bara asshole

I'd like more porn of that redhead.

Syrian Warfare is pretty good if a little limited right now

He should do another video where he reads comments like that out loud on stage.

Fuck off, marine. Demons don't deserve to be killed and we were only trying to defend ourselves.

THEY DINDU NUFFIN

You deserve Jews.

Where do I find girls like this? Sure she's a fucking retard but she looks a whole lot better than most $60 hookers.

Isn't that the standard price of a retail game?

I guestimated USD as I'm not 'merican, it would be ~$90 here but you also don't get much of a looker for $90 here.

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I'm wondering the same thing. If I'm paying for sex anyway, I'd rather it be with a girl who doesn't do it for a living. Hookers around here are about 50/50 between ugly junkies and women who were probably cute 20 years ago.

I thought the JC Denton ending in Invisible War was interesting, but I didn't agree at the time. I'm still torn on whether convergence is the right thing.

Full disclosure. I didn't hate Invisible War, although it was inferior to the first title.

I thought Wolfenstein was pretty generous in its depiction of nazis as well.

Fuck off, SJW.

It's a tool to control other countries' industry

Because nobody is as autistic as you.

But that's not a good game.

someone post MGR so we can end this thread early

Video games aren't a good medium for anything other than gameplay, technological achievement, visuals and music.

The only good political game that could possibly exist is a completely player-run MMORPG, like Topia Online [vaporware] if any of you remember that one. Get a bunch of nationalists, marxists (Jews and otherwise), and normalfags on the server. Watch the communist societies completely collapse or turn into totalitarian governments while the nationalists attract the normalfags and build up a mighty army to invade and hang all of the marxists, every last one except the qt3.14 ones.

I really wanted Topia Online to be real. That would have been the perfect MMORPG.

Are you saying you shouldn't care about the environment? You would put corporation s above your god given land? This is some new form of cuckoldry.

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It's more The Jungle meets Dances with Wolves with telepathic mystic shit

How about this game's themes?

I remember how PBG was the only one that actually took offense to the comments. He was visibly upset about being called a faggot. I was not surprised at all when he was the first to disown Jon after he participated in a Sargon stream.

This user gets it. If we don't let the jews and the chinks ruin the world then we let the "leftists" win!

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This isn't "right-leaning", it's castrated bugman-speak.
How about "I want to save the environment because wilderness is beautiful and necessary to human sanity."

If you fags want the empire to fuck off you'll need to cooperate more and actually use reasonable laws, if the Telvanni had it their way Morrowind would be borderline ancap.

Kill yourself, /leftykike/

Eat doo doo Caca head!

Oh yeah, that clown always seemed overly sensitive. No surprise there.

I would normally agree but I like how the dialogue feels like getting lost in unhinged conspiracy theories.

Ace Combat Zero

There a full pic?

tbh ME: Andromeda looks so bad I want to play it just to enjoy the shitshow

Witcher series. You get to see that each of the options has positives and negatives, and that when they clash people in the middle are the ones that tend to be fucked over the most. It is also a rare case when "the rebels" are actually worse than their oppressors, and where discrimination and doubt are not automatically 100% evil and unreasonable.


You either take care about environment or end up like Middle East and Australia. In both regions people were dumb enough to get rid off most trees.
Another example is China and India. Both of them produce enormous amounts of pollution. In case of China it is horrid air in cities, and in case of India horrible water quality. You have to be a complete retard to think that having to wear mask in the city to avoid black lung or having lakes and rivers and fucking seas full of poisonous water is acceptable.

Final Fantasy 7. Good game, but the content of its messaging was pretty fucking stupid.

It's not that I can't believe a corporation would be so sociopathic as to build their own city on top of a slum
I also find it credible that a society like the one festering beneath the over-city would be crawling with degeneracy — the bathhouse, the brothel, the fag tailor, the gangs, etc.

Come to think of it, what am I even disagreeing with, here? I just think it's a bit faggy because the game presents this undercity as dangerous, but also as if it's not a problem because everything is the rich guys' fault. It's Shinra's fault that these people live like animals instead of leaving Midgar for some place that isn't filthy and perpetually dark, or just choosing not living like animals.

There's a point toward the end where Barret repents of all those people AVALANCHE killed in the first couple hours of the game, blowing up reactors. They all felt the ends justified the means, but later on Barret had become somewhat more nuanced in his thinking and was no longer certain that killing people to save the planet was the right thing to do.
That's pretty good.

Oh, but that whole Cosmo Canyon thing can go straight to hell. Buncha crying indian bullshit. Muh noble savages. That kind of thing sets the "political tone" of the game, so to speak. The actual political content isn't bad, but the tone is ridiculous leftoid nonsense.

Do it. I did, pirate the game it is 50gb I think there is a repack.

The game is very very bad but still it feels like a Mass effect game but stripped down. Vetra is waifu and Drack is bro the rest of the "Team" are airlock material.

Oh be CAREFUL about the guns you research. The angaran sniper rifle "Goodbye" and the Kett "sudden death" are worth investing in.

MGS was a big deal for me, tho it took me a while to really get the philosophical aspects of em.

Deus Ex Human Revolution was a big deal for me too being my first Deus Ex game and I really like the idea of trans humanism, but its a shame that transvestites are tarnishing the term.

You better have beaten the real DX and loved it.

couldnt. it hasnt aged well and is confusing as fuck to get the hang of. I cant even figure out how to get across the pool of water in the tutorial. I'm not even gonna lie about it, I've beaten all the MGS games on Euro Extreme and I cant get the hang of DX1's gameplay. I tried playing System Shock 2 as well, but the sound is fucked. Thief Gold's controls are confusing for me as well and it doesnt do a good job of instructing me how to play

That's okay. You can leave now. Don't come back.

sorry dude. I'm just not old enough I guess

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Arcanum
Tropico 3
Victoria 2

Arcanum
Tropico 3
Victoria 2

Any quality game with a political message is purely incidental and not worth acknowledging and encouraging the practice of propagandizing the medium.

I'm so sorry but I understand too, you must have little autism to play old games

Mirror's Edge had some kind of political leaning. I can't remember what it was. Something something fuk da po-lees gurl pawa? I get the feeling it was mostly autofellatio about how The Man is constantly out to get you for literally no reason.

I just came here to tell you to kill yourself. Please never post again.

this is true. for example, FTL and other micro managing games are usually too autistic for me to focus and become completely unplayable to me. I cant even comprehend how guys play Dwarf Fortress

How about you try a lethal playthrough first?

youre like the 3rd person to tell me this. Is that really what it is?? I played DXHR as if it were Metal Gear so it was pretty easy for me, so if DX1 isnt balanced to be easy for stealth/melee only, that makes sense.

This is why we must ban reddit and cuckchan filth on sight.

Stealth is perfectly fine in DX, it is simply that lethal is better for new players until they get hang of the game. The game is actually very lenient when it comes to enemies detecting you. Also DX:HR casualises non-lethal/stealth by making the enemy completely unaware of the fact that you hit them with a tranq dart, replacing melee with a small cutscene at the end of which enemies are instantly dead/stunned, giving you a stun gun on top of the tranq darts and removing sprays/gas grenades.

You've got to be fucking kidding me.

Y'know, that sort of thing would actually be really good to stick up in the Rules/FAQ/whatever page.

user its JEWS taking over the the world which is caring and helps each other because thats what people with values do.

Capitalism being poked at is secondary.
Wildlife and our world being polluted by consumerism is another topic.

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so they can never learn and grow up to be retarded Holla Forumsiticians?

It's a real shame more politically charged games don't add a psychological horror element to them. I feel that's really all politics have become. You have these people doing evil things that sound like they belong in a horror movie to get what they want on a larger scale and that scale is more horrifying than any leviathan that waits deep under water.

Any more games like MGS2 and Deus Ex are the only sort of things that creep me out. I really want to do a VN or something that tells a similar sort of large scale, real world horror story but it's hard to remain subtle with it and not just go on a tinfoil rant.

Just in case you don't remember or don't want to remember, Hot wheels shilled Holla Forums on reddit.

Okay so if I believed Hitler was right but qas a vegan would I be left wing?
Jews deserve to be hurt, cute cows don't.

HItler didnt eat meat so.
fuck that though i love that shit

I just can't bring myself to eat meat. I think it's because I went to a petting zoo once when I was a kid and later that week saw Jews mass slaughtering chickens for that fucked up Holiday they have.
Eat meat if you want to though, user. Just know that Hitler was right whilst doing it.

Hey man, you can choose not to and I can choose to. Much like fetishes, no one cares what you do until you start pushing it in their face going "lol meatcucks, check my vegan gains brah"

Hitler didn't eat meat for dietary reasons.
Animal protection from a national socialist perspective is more is about preventing unnecessary suffering than ending farming entirely. There is something to the vegancuck talking point that meat is energy inefficient, though

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They do, but only if they're featured on shitholes like HG101 or bogleech. Even then they don't actually play the games, just listen to the music and post fanart on Tumblr.

Jesus fuck kill yourself

Politics are operated by humans.

if anything the left is anti-environment.

example: China.

Explain

He's probably referring to the fact china burns the most coal in some of the "uncleanest" ways, and their major cities have smog so bad it impairs vision and people are buying air filters and respirators.

short answer: China
long answer:
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Leftists don't give a shit about the enviroment because it's all a front they put on, while
CONSERVATIVES
(ie the right)
are in favor of
CONSERVING
the enviroment because that shit creates real jobs, is an industry all it's own (purification technology production and other technologies and systems are needed to keep that shit going) while leftists are all about population control which means shit all for industry.

You see, the person who wants the dollar the most is better then the person who wants to be your nanny.

Reminder that China hasn't been communist since Xiaoping.

Can't you go bait somewhere else?

You can relate equally the pollution controls on the west pushed by the goverment and say that clean industry is thanks to a left measure.


i dont think pollution controls are exclusive for conservatives, it's a technical action that even a liberal (classic liberal) goverment can do (do not be confused whit anacap), whit conservatives it's not that effective since generally those institution protecting the enviorment are more centralised on a central goverment, so they can be bribed and controlled entirely and locals who neighbour as polluting industry will not notice the industry negligence inmediatly since many kinds of pollution are not perseptible at frist sight such as ground water contamination, micro-particle pollution and the disposal of industrial waste.

then explain china, or as I like to call it
china

China hasn't even pretended to be communist in like three decades, it's a pyramid scheme shaped like a country where Communism is the flag that the people in charge wave to distract the peasants while they steal everything that isn't nailed down and flee to Vancouver or Melbourne.

There's failed communism, which people like to pretend doesn't count against communism, and then there's I Can't Believe It's Not Communism!, where it is literally not communism and the word is only invoked as a branding exercise.

it isn't now, but remember when Mao reorganized the industry and made farmers make steel dangerous foundries using giant pots heated whit coal and the output was some impure steel that was totally useless? the goverment doesn't make these kind of direct actions anymore.


in china it's illegal to talk about pollution, the goverment defends the corporations above the citezens security, it's a corporate olygarchy protected by a left goverment, i pointing that these institutions work better on a decentralized goverment whit local authorities, something that most conservatives on other countries are aganist.

China IS an example of communism, in that it failed and turned into the jewy center of asian money-grubbery it is to survive.

China is what happens when communism DOESN'T end in a bloody revolution, the people live in hell and it's basically a nation of theives, more white collar as opposed to Brazil's blue collar ratio.

Communism doesn't work and no matter how you state that "it's not real communism" it is communism and the results of such a system. Communism is shit, so shut the fuck up and accept that capitalism is the better system until something else is found, which is likely not gonna happen anytime soon. and the found system sure as fuck ain't gonna have anything to do with communism.


Because they lack the infrastructure to deal with it because they aren't conservative and can't adopt conservative policies because it's an admission of defeat.

It sure as fuck fails to work in china, because every town is a goddamned shithole. America and Japan may have their problems but they're a million times better then china.

None of this has anything to do with what you originally said:
China isn't leftist, it can't even be described as political. It's an ideological void of a country, the only policies it has are what best lets the people in power steal from everyone else without provoking an uprising. China didn't open its borders to every company that wanted to strip its lands and poison its air until after they stopped pretending to be communist.

Do you know that conservative faction ideals depends of theit nation? conservatives in my country are crooks, they dont support enviormental policies and are interventionists.

You act like that makes it ok.

Ah, but communism always ends the same way, no matter the differences.

badly.

A lot of
POLITICIANS
in my country are crooks as well. You're acting like the opposite side doesn't have it's hefty share of crooks by virtue of omission. Let's get this out of the way, your country is shit so of course it has crooks in the balcony.

Wings of Liberty actually does it rather well, in my opinion.
Go look at the newscasts, its really rather interesting
Its almost a verbatim letter to how the political climate was in 2016
All the while, cancer and evil spreads throughout the galaxy, heavily allowed by the incumbent emperorship, even used as a tool for his corruption and cronyism
Its pretty funny, I think Arcturus represents how an evil Trump might look like

From now on make an effort to git gud.

It's a shit game and I will fight you about it.
Even taken as a stand alone the game's garbage, the endgame devolves into "spam damage as you don't have a hp/defense stat and 1 shot them before you they decide to kill you"

Still better than most Final Fantasies.

Except not, even FF1 had the decency to have a defense stat so that damage wasn't 100% all that mattered.

And even aside from that Smirk and the uncontrollable NPC partners who can force the boss to smirk. The horrible way Fiends were handled (lol a 1/256 chance to spawn when you load the area the first time after a game load from the world map). The awful story pacing.

Apoc is only slightly better than it, and it's still a shit game. Fuck Apoc is awful.

The message is that Utopias are doomed to fail because people will always be people. What's wrong with that?

You shouldn't blog about yourself on anonymous imageboards.

Actually it's

From here on out it's spoiler town


In essence the game is more about free will than anything.

Mmmmm. We have roasted blasted ass for dinner? Cuz I can smell the butthurt a mile away!~

Sure!