Overwatch General: Welcome home overcucks edition

Overwatch General: Welcome home overcucks edition

"SO WE HEARD YOU LIKE MANN VS MACHINE FELLOW KIDS!"


So new younger Mercy, Tracer and Widowmaker. SFM is going into overtime.

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Fuck off

Is Donald a Hanzo main?

Leaked frog language for trailer.

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obligatory sage, blizzcucks
Will overwatch be banned from Holla Forums, finally?

(heil'd)
mmmmmAAARRRRRRRRK!!

These cute girls are the only thing holding back a total /cutboys/ invasion. You saw the breath of the wild threads user. You know they lurk in the shadows, scared of the waifu games power.

good call with those lucio changes i guess, i always thought he was so safe and boring. but heres one change i dont fully understand.
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Sonic Amplifier
Alternate fire now considers vertical orientation when knocking targets back

by vertical orientation do they mean your position relative to the enemy you hit with the knockback, or do they mean where you are aiming, or both?


/cutboys/ what, christians?

user, they have a thread dedicated to playing overwatch.
>>>/cuteboys/332093

THE TRIPS DEMAND IT
MARK GET TO IT!!!

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Wait, what ? How can I play that ?

You just party up with friends or que? its basically mann vs machine with waifus and models with elbows.

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POST THE PORN ALREADY

This do anything for you?

GO HOME OVERCUCKS

I was asking because I didn't see the mode, but it just updated on me.

Yeah just went live now


I love our times together user.

So theres two modes a timed event thats live. Ones a set 4 character story mode and a permanent arcade mode for all characters to play pve with its own unlocks

Oh man, I missed the dubs general.

You did it champ. You're the guy.

Can't hear you over the sound of my dubs.

I meant trips.

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competitive is getting worst by the day nothing but salty fucking game throwers even in masters/gm

Competitive shooters are always cancer. Always. shooters are for fucking around and fun, it was in quake it is in overwatch.

Signed, that fucker who plays D.Va and Mei.

No one can even say this is unexpected.

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Overwatch is a huge fucking slut for having 30000 people in a line just to have a round.

25million+ sold user

do not lewd the rogue military organization

i dont know what they expected.

how are there still queues in 2017


I think that's not true tbh.
It sold well, no doubt, but 25m is impossible.

d3 sold that well alone with just pc user overwatch has console versions as well

Maybe directly to resellers, not to people.
It's just a really really hard number to believe.

Did you forget we live in the nightmare timeline? Diablo 3 sold more than Diablo 2 ever will.

It's Blizzard user, of course they're going to inflate their numbers.
Only an idiot would believe numbers released by Blizzard, EA or Ubisoft.

There are still queues because as pissed as people get having to wait to play every single new release or update it's not enough to make them actually stop playing so there's no reason to spend any amount of time and money to set up more servers to prevent it being an issue.

You're thinking of shipped. They've sold 30 mil copies of D3 as of a few years ago.

They can twist numbers (which they've already done with 1.2 mil 'sales' coming from WoW annual pass) but outright lying to shareholders is a quick and easy way to get sued.

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didnt the enemy lose too, in that case?

It was PvE

why do you think I've never touched a second of competitive?

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Overwatch sux, but I want to fuck that brown girl.

not bad

Why even play?

because equality means dragging everyone down to the lowest common denominator

Ruining other peoples good time as Mei gives me sexual pleasure.

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Thank you. I've been calling it Communism: The Shooter for awhile and couldn't seem to get the reason across to anyone.

Nah if that were true Sombra wouldn't be trash.

NACHO GOBBO ALWAYS WINS

Eat shit and die

That's a turn off

Well, we liked it on Halloween, so yeah.

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Is it because symmetra has no peanut butter?

They're going to add conga taunts, by the way.

Because Jeff Kaplan is a happy merchant.

The only problem with emotes in OW is how some of them should loop or stay until interrupted, no, not just the sitting ones.

Why do they do this though? Haven't they ever watched a movie? What ever happened to the whole comeback mentality?

the ranking system is fucked so they get no motivation, individual ranking on a team based game, heavily team based.

How is it fucked? I don't play competitive and I even have this problem on casual.

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Reminder to report threads like this so they can get taken down.

There is more or less 3 roles you have as a player in the game, damage dealer, tank or healer, the former is usually the one that gets more individual points in a lot of categories like eliminations, objective kills, damage dealt, etc. compared to the others who are supposed to get some obj. time and obj kills, not to mention healer.

The way that system works prevents the later two from registering a "high impact" during the match, which means only players proficient in damage dealers will get the most Skill Ranking increase.

Some of its consequences are:

Grouping with friends for placement matches can give you a variable SR among them which can even mean you are placed in different tiers, for balance reasons you can't group up with friends if your SR has a difference of 1000 points, healers are prone to be placed lower than the rest of their teammates.

This also encourages people, specially streamers to buy alternate accounts to boost their friends or just to show off in lower ranks, which in turn disrupts the poorly implemented matchmaking system.

It also means there can be people among your teammates in partial stacks or SoloQ that are purposefully deranking.

And well, it is a team based game but ranks you based on individual performance, anyone who would prefer a global average ranking from team performance will get called out for expecting to be carried for example.

Decided to heal the new event on very hard as zenyatta

how to tell the junkrat and roadhog never played them before: the match

Hey OP, where can I get that amiibo?

Healers do fine in SR if the player is good. Lots of shitty healers out there that think they are good because unlike damage there's not really much to tell them otherwise. Lots of shitty damage players who think they are good too, but healers are worse in that.

Other than differences in actual skill, SR in placements is largely based on previous-season SR/MMR. You stay pretty much where you are plus or minus a few hundred SR, and in almost all cases it's minus. The devs have specifically stated this, that they base off the previous season's numbers and try to reduce your rank a bit so that you can get the feeling of climbing in the early part of the season.

Of course, it's not like the facts have ever stopped people from doing stupid things based on their assumptions anyway.

My friend on the phone
Some people seem unable to wait for a couple of hours to get what they want

Some people seem unable to wait for a couple of MINUTES to get what they want

Just wait through the queue, it shouldnt be more than 5.

I got in around 2 minutes, but doesnt matter cant find a team who knows how to play anything more difficult than hard on PVE

Bad healers are the worst. And people who stand in front of you when you play as Bastion always infuriate me.
The best team for PvE seems to be Orisa + Mercy + Bastion + Junkrat

I like the concept of younger characters but seriously they arent even trying to hide the fact that they are just coping directly from TF2.

Something has to be a modern replacement for that autistic daiperfur flooded shitstain its become post F2P.

Nah

Fair point.

But they could just release TF3 as a non free version of TF2 without the hats and it would be a more well rounded, more developed game.

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Despite the skins, how was the new game mode?

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they make more money off crates than they would selling a game for $60 though. the only way i could see that happening is if it came with a huge amount of skins that make your eyes bleed on release.

Man it's a dubs party isn't it?

Just a reminder that the vols are still defending this trash because they themselves play it.

Can someone explain these Lucio nerfs

He was the only champ you played if no one wanted to play healer because of how brain dead easy he was and how no one can complain if he did bad

Now they removed the thing that makes him viable for shit players as well the thing that makes him viable for pro players since his self healing is his Fucking bread and butter

Now he's just a trash mid skill healer that no one wants to play

Prove it.

Not even trying


Been proved a long time ago where any dissent in the general was banned and kinda still is, and we all know the reason why Markie boy bought it.

This and Granblue are the most Hotpocketed and cancerous threads and both are played by the vols.

Prove it.

It's worse than that.

He was so fun to play and had so much utility compared to mercy he became meta, which made mercy mains cry and scream at blizzard to fix it.
So blizzard proceeded to nerf his healing twice, and make his speed boost shit.

Then Ana came in and became the new meta because utility and good healing. Mercy mains started crying again.
So Blizzard nerfed Ana twice, and made her ult shittier.

Now people are STILL not playing Mercy because a vast majority find her boring and uninteresting (all you do is hold down one button), so what do Blizzard do?
They nerf Lucio's healing AGAIN, and decrease the range of his healing to less than Mercy (literally 1/3rd of his original range).
But fret not kids, he now got a huge circle around him ala League of Legends to indicate where his healing is, so you don't have to flail around trying to figure out where to stand to heal.

And of course we get a whole new gamemode centered around forcing people to play mercy. Maybe if we make them play her enough they'll learn to like her.
Of course this isn't going to change anything so expect a nerf for Ana next patch.

That's really low blizzard
Hats when?

Stop bumping this shit, niggers. Also, check my singles.

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If mods don't come down hard on these threads they'll just keep coming back. I don't know why it's suddenly "ok" now to have an OW thread when they've been getting deleted on the spot for months prior. If Mark still made meta threads this would probably be one of the more important things to ask him.

In any case sage bomb and shitpost like always till you reach your quota. Consistency is the key to removing cancer.

I honestly hate how blizz always caters to the faggots that scream the loudest on their forums.

Mark never deleted Overcuck threads
They were just shitposted so hard that he had to bumplock them once or twice.
We all know who posts in these threads, why they're still alive and the overabundance of (1)s qnd we all know it ain't good.

You're as unwanted as the OW threads, fuck off nigger.

There is nothing wrong with overwatch threads.

So r34 loli pics of Tracer are guaranteed now?

You're a fucking retard, go join them >>>/topv/

>>>/suicide/

lol niggered

fukken dead

is that a pic of battlefield one?

Someone has to keep the 4am threads alive user

They've been deleted on the spot for a long time. I know they've been bumplocked before as well but for a while I genuinely thought they were gone until summer. I guess one of the volunteers was just based.

Overcuck actually


WE


I really don't remember them being deleted.
I don't believe they never were, just shitposted to death.
Got proof?

Consider it done.

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>>>/cuckchan/ seems more your speed; they don't protect your free speech.

You're gonna need a lot of sockpuppets to try and revise history; at the very least collaborate with your fellow dissenters before making wild claims.

New Lucio isn't that bad since the new radius is about where your teammates should be when getting healed and boosted.

I was in the threads? Sorry I don't have pics or anything. I just remember being in them and seeing the thread being pruned/deleted when I tried to further shitpost. How am I the only one that remembers this?


Nobody liked those threads after a certain point except gay furry pedo's. This is just reddit and them needing to leave.


Keep posting. It'll just kill this thread faster.
Also
This is what reddit actually thinks criticism is.

Never had a plebbit account and I won't have some fucking sperg telling me what games I can talk about

impressive

Yeah you're gonna need sockpuppets if you're actively trying to revise history while even people that dislike OW threads are fucking doubting you; provide proof or fuck on off back to SA.

Only blizzard ever creates drones dumb enough to defend this.

Just as cancerous and also need to get the fuck out along with their leftist counterparts.
Your accusations are baseless just like your taste is shit.


>Doesn't know about >>>/topv/
You and the other user fit very well in this thread.


Probably a duplicate dude

Go back to leddit, faggot.

Don't forget that Blizzard will remove your account if you even think about cheating, griefing or playing with certain characters.
Don't forget that they'll filter "bad" words and usernames with the possibility of an account removal.
Don't forget that Tracer is a lesbian and nigger lolis are top tier scientists.
Don't forget about the removed porn
Don't forget about the diversity talk
Don't forget this game is published by thr kikes at Acrivision, its shallow as shit and the meta and Blizzshit moderation gets progressively worse by the month.

Muh waifus though rite fellow 8gaggers?

It's not baseless. They did it with the Undertale threads and demanded they'd be outright banned because muh shills and demand and conquer

If it spread out of these containment threads it'd be different but it hasn't and no-one outside these threads like or talk about it


I regularly shit-talk, insult people and call them faggots. Teenagers are really fucking easy to wind up and they're too retarded to report people

I thought that was a LoL thing?

Thats a new game fellow channer?
Who needs words anyway, right?
I'll just go make a thread about a game and just post porn about without actually discussing it instead of playing vidya.

do we have porn of these

Try saying nigger or mudslime or repefugee on a german server in most online games. Ban guaranteed. No questions asked.

canon version is boring, free for all hero version is a hoot.

Divide and conquer

I'm not defending the word-filters I'm saying that they're easy to by-pass if you have a decent grasp of the English language and aren't a retard

Sure, that's why you find better and subtler ways of saying the same thing. Barely even talk politics in-game anyway. Mostly it's just someone moaning about the meta so you call him a useless butthurt faggot

This reeks.

whats with all the rage in this thread its unattractive

I haven't been on cuckchan in years.

Maybe you should try more of an adult game like Insurgency? I regularly crack jokes about removing kebab and the holocaust being fake. I've never been reported or banned and sometimes others join in.

If you really cared about western society you'd pull a murder suicide on your family to remove your aspergers from the gene-pool

The salt overwatch threads generate encourage me to perhaps starting overwatch threads.
That's all these faggots reach to establish

By salt, do you mean from the people who are discussing Overwatch despite shitposters, or do you mean the ones who immediately start crying like tumblrtards because "y-you're playing a game I don't like!!! Stop it!!"

CHECKED

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People who gave even a single penny to Blizzard deserves worse.

Shit, forgot to sage. I hate when this happens

i want paper dva

Both

And I want all Blizzcucks dead, but we can't always get what we want.

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Standard version on legendary requires careful tactics and focus fire, especially for the last section where you kill 4 orisas/OR14s. Haven't beat it yet myself but basically you are going to want to take each bastion/orisa individually and then regroup before moving going for the next one.

In the all hero version you can take an overpowered comp and just blow through everything without even slowing down. Did it with Bastion, Orisa, Soldier, Mercy. Half the time I didn't even have to move as Mercy, just stand behind cover boosting bastion.

Orisa+Mercy+Bastion+Damage really. That 4th slot can be pretty much anything that can do a large amount of damage, preferably from behind Orisa's shield. Soldier works great, Torbjorn, McCree, Hanzo and maybe even Zarya could work too. I've also seen Genji a lot but I'm not too sure if he's good enough.

Try not being retarded

When the fuck do we get to fight korean robo-kaijus
You can't just make a backstory like that and then not put it in the fucking game

POST THE PORN

jerk off to an autistic muppet and call it day

NIGGERS

i don't get why tracer being homosexual is such a big deal
tf2 had a lesbian way before overwatch did

Because America. And America has a ton of religious people who absolutely abhor homosexuality in all its forms.
It also doesn't help that they all feel like they were "tricked into sinning" by Blizzard revealing their favorite character is gay after they've had a couple of months to play her.

But all in all it's mostly just people being stupid and parroting what their parents been teaching them.
I mean you see plenty of images in that game of humans having relationships with omnics, but no, people get hung up about a character in the game preferring boobs over pecs.

Here you go, mate.

I want that Mei. Mei is bei.

Answered your own question buddy

The devs have openly said they're just making popular shit from fans canon so you might as well make up your own. It's just as valid as the dumb shit tumblr dreams up

Say what you want but watching Overwatch animated shorts gave me a short glimpse of feeling happy amidst a decade of depression.

I think I'll give this one game a pass, simply because they managed to make me to remember what it's like to be alive.

Widowmaker is best girl


fucking plebs


The second it gets made canon is the second it stops being fanfiction.

You live a vapid shallow life akin to one of a normalfag, I hope your death comes quick.

Definitely not because they made the character gay for the sake of being gay, right? It has to be because "muh religious parents". Next you'll tell me people are upset about Symmetra being autistic because the alt-right nazis want to kill disabled children.

Understanding what makes one happy and doing it is the farthest possible thing from normalfaggotry. Normalfags lack the self awareness to understand happyness at all, instead doing what they think SHOULD make them happy and often even believing they are happy (without actually being so) because they do/have the things they think they should.

The desire to fit in however is perhaps the most normalfag thing possible, and often manifests as the ridicule of something so as to be accepted by those others doing the same.

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Why? Do you hate yourself? Is the mutilation of normal things aid you in your wallowing to find even the closest thing you can relate to?

No. Tumblrtale was banned you people will be banned too take it to >>>/vg/

Fuck off and die. You people are CANCER on gaming you support Nu-Blizzard? You support SJW game? You support low skill ceiling game for eternal children?

GO DIE.

Is OverCuck a good game?

Now is the faggot clone rip off designed for retards and liberals with no self worth good yet?

DONALD PROVED IT! BANN OVERCUCK THREADS!

Ah shit. I got dubs to.

Ban OverCuck threads.

Remember that if this is the DESIGNATED thread please do not bump the thread when making DESIGNATED posts.

Are you a jewish puppet?

Now there's a meme that needs to die.

The real skill ceiling in overwatch is incredibly high. The reason is that it's NOT based entirely on twitch aim and memorized actions. You want a low skill ceiling game try Counterstrike were even such things as grenade angles and timings are literally written up for you online. An ideal game of CS is played with pre-determined positions and timings, literally limiting the skill involved in the player's thought process and therefor the only area they can really get better at is aim and reaction.

A game of Overwatch still has plenty of aim and reaction tests, hero-dependant. High-aim required heroes do a job that low-aim heroes can't replicate, making it a valuable skill and generally required on any team, though not from every individual player. More importantly though, the game is heavily dependent on positioning and team coordination, the ideal state of which is in constant flux throughout a match, putting the burden of skill on the teams and their communication, game sense, and decision making abilities.

In truth, anyone complaining about "low skill" is probably someone who expects their aim to carry them without any game sense and therefor gets dumpstered by people who actually know what they are doing. They bitch that their opponents have no skill and are just playing easy characters in an easy game, when the truth is they are getting outplayed due to a lack of skill themselves.

Now I'll grant that twitch aim in Quake is impressive as hell, but the breadth of skill required is actually fairly tame. I'm not saying it's just aim either, I know that pro quake is almost entirely map-control, but there still just aren't that many angles to apply other skills to the outcome. It's why Quake pros DON'T automatically dominate in things like Overwatch, they lack the other skills.

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THIS IS WHAT BLIZZDRONES ACTUALLY BELIEVE

I always find it amazing when half the posts in a thread are from haters like BOTW and some animu games. But this one is always the best because Holla Forums gets salty as fuck over the fact the game has niggers, faggots, and aspies.

Get some gatorade and head back to your containment board; after crying that hard you'll need some electrolytes my dudes.

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You're getting triggered by spooks that are not even real

This is what Holla Forums has come to.

I can only assume the average Overcuck wasn't born when FPS games were actually good.

Will every blizzdrone die a horrible and painful death?

what were the last good ones?

that's some nice pasta

quake 3, all it needs is some minor updates and to become popular then we can re-enter the glorious multiplayer fps age minus the fun of lan parties.

Anything pre-Halo since that game was the death knell for going fast in shooter games. If we're talking MP shooters: Quake 2, Tribes 2

Sure if you want to repost it, I don't usually save my own, I prefer to write a new response every time. Does a good job of triggering the haters into showing exactly how retarded they really are.

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I'm not pretending anything, but a response like that does show you lack reading comprehension, along with argumentative ability.

So you admit to not only writing tl;dr texts to defend Overwatch, you also admit to not knowing what "Only pretending" means.

If ever there was a poster who clearly doesn't belong on Holla Forums, it's you. Congrats.

No, what I'm saying is that I meant, and continue to mean, everything I wrote. The fact that you couldn't understand that from my first response to you and thought I was only pretending to like overwatch simply shows you are an idiot.

In truth, it's the idiots who simply shit on games to try and fit in, rather than making reasoned arguments for OR against, that don't belong here. That kind of hivemind activity belongs somewhere like neogaf.

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Well that's new. Oddly though it found a match in 21 seconds, with near perfectly equal SR Might be a little buggy

it actually isnt all that reminiscent of mann vs machine, other than it being a pve mode where you kill evil robits. no upgrades and you arent defending a static point

Console shooter kids certainly do belong in neogaf

I don't think they were. People just lost interest and stopped making them. It'll be the same with OW.

The real problem is Holla Forums sticking it's nose where it doesn't belong again. There was threads on Holla Forums demanding Mark would ban tumblrtale threads and if he didn't we'd get infiltrated and how he was compromised etc.

No one asked you to police Holla Forums. No one cares about your butthurt faggotry and muh degeneracy. If you want to bitch about blizzards retarded diversity bullshit just do that. That is more productive than just pissing and moaning about how it should be banned and people can't talk about games you don't like.

No one wants you here. Go back to your hugbox and suck some more mod-dick.

Better be pasta man. That's just fucking embarrassing.

Time to stop posting Overcuck, playing this garbage is no better than playimg Call of Duty or LoL.

God-tier comp for the PVE mode: Bastion, Orisa, Mercy or Ana, and Dva.
Bastion sets up in turret right in front of the largest concentration of enemies, Orisa pops a shield in front of him and keeps refreshing it as soon as it's charged. They both unload on enemies in front, one focusing right and one focusing left, and combining fire on threats like enemy bastions and detonators. Dva watches the rear/extreme sides since she's more mobile with the boost. She can also block incoming fire from enemy bastions to more quickly end them with less threat to yourselves. Healer just hides behind and keeps everyone topped off or powered up. Mercy is probably the better choice for powering up damage to take down big threats faster. Ana can do some damage to enemies in her down time but it's pissing in an ocean of piss when you've got a bastion turret and orisa unloading on them.

My friends and I tested this and it works pretty much flawlessly. The only time we failed, our Orisa fucked up the shield placement and left us vulnerable, on Expert. There also doesn't appear to be any difference between the difficulties except the enemies becoming bullet sponges, so it should work for Legendary as well.

No, all legit. Really Overwatch takes a far greater range of skill than nearly any other game, and counterstrike pretty much only requires aim and memorization, and even the aim is fairly limited even by comparison to overwatch's aim-dependant heroes due to the limited movement.

Overwatch may not need the same mechanical skill as Quake, but really mechanical skill should be the very least part of any skillset. It's like judging RTS on being skilled based on APM.

Higher difficulties increase enemy damage, aiming speed, and possibly fire rate. I'm not sure if they increase HP at all, I know they don't increase it for the smaller enemies, those are 200 in all modes.

I play Overwatch but I won't defend it, because half of your argument can be completely destroyed by the fact that even the characters that DO require you to aim gud have abysmal aim-assist built in. There's a video of someone getting sniper headshots on characters that are around a fucking corner because their "head" hitbox is so large.

What I meant was there's the same number and type of enemy coming from the same place every single game, there's no randomization to the waves at all. In our strategy, the shield and D.va's projectile blocker pretty much negate incoming fire as long as you kill them fast enough, so the issue becomes "who do I shoot first" so you don't get overwhelmed from the left while you're shooting right, or vice-versa.

Overwatch hitboxes are actually smaller than MOST shooters, quake 3 arena included. The hitscan hitboxes in particular were adjusted a couple months after launch to be extremely close to model, that video you mentioned is outdated.

And in case it wasn't obvious, it's not "aim assist". Console probably has that, but fuck consoles. It (was) just an oversized hitbox.

I'm not convinced, because I still see Hanzos ripping off shots like those 360noscope fags in the good ol' days of COD4. They don't even pause over your head, just release an arrow on the way by. I know there was some aim assist magic in COD that made fly-by noscopes more effective than zooming in and I suspect the same thing is at work here.

Sure is too bad Holla Forums is a bastion of free speech, huh? Go make your own board where you make the rules and Overwatch is bannable. See how many visitors you get.

None at all, it's all just a combination of hitboxes, latency, and not 100% accurate killcams. The arrow hitbox (not the body) is still fairly large, though not as large as some people might claim.

I guess I should mention that Ana's healing does have something that could be described as that, so that's the one exception. It technically works by the models having a larger healing hitbox and then redirecting where the visible tracer goes so that it's always on model, but that just makes it aim assist by another name.

Doesn't really impact the skill ceiling much outside of that one character, who has enough to worry about. It's only for healing and not damage.

free speech also allows the mockery of overwatch shitters

Why would someone get this fucking mad about it then? As I've said I've seen Holla Forums throwing an autistic fit about the diversity shit and demanding it be purged.

Why would you give a shit that someone is playing a casual online shooter as long as they don't spam it in other threads? I just want to talk in the occasional thread about a pretty casual game I bought to play with friends.

If you don't like it don't read it or just post in the thread why you think it's shit. Just stop shitting up the thread or demanding people shouldn't be able to talk about it.


Sure, it's a game I start when I just want to jump into the action and shoot for a while or I play with my cousin while chatting on Skype.

And it allows me to continue triggering you by talking about overwatch. What a world we live in.

Basically it's a focus fire issue, but since Bastion is really the only one who's damage matters here it's not much of an issue.

I meantioned earlier, but the All Heroes game is pretty easy regardless. Take Orisa, Bastion, and Mercy, and it doesn't really matter what your 4th hero is. Bastion and Orisa do enough damage, as long as Orisa puts her shields down in front of bastion and bastion shoots the dangerous things first, you shouldn't have any issues. Mercy can just hide behind a wall and damage boost/heal.

But why? Just kill yourself instead. Pretty please?

Literally thousands of games to do that, shitton of them free.
This is nothing but a shitty excuse to justify your purchase.
I found out about long time friends of mine that still played Company of Heroes inbetween their ASSFAGGOTS sessions.

LOL

Just want to say that overwatch is as casual as you make it. You can just jump in and shoot some shit for a while, you'll never really make it far in comp (if you even play comp) that way, but nobody is forcing you to try to climb either. There are enough people playing the game that with matchmaking being the default you can easily find a game with people reasonably close to your level to play with no matter what, unlike some games where you would just get your shit handed to you by pros no matter where you went.

Meanwhile if you do play it seriously you can climb ranks or maybe even join a team at some point, there's plenty of room to grow your skill set and get good, if that's what you want to do.

Gee, sure smells like cuckchan in here

This lack of self awareness is just fucking shocking.

people default to bastion when they want high damage turret action, but ive actually had more luck with torb, at least with uncoordinated randoms.


we just had an update. its even described in the op. you big silly

Bastion+Orisa gives you enough damage to take down the enemy bastions/orisas, Torb doesn't Torb makes a great 4th slot though, and he's absolutely MVP for the standard mode.

Bad games attract bad posters, like yourself.

Beautiful

Yeah, sure is self aware in here.

Meanwhile I'm just playing a game I like, because I like playing it. Let me assure you that I do NOT do it to try and fit in, with anybody. In fact I tend to be quite the opposite. I like to take an unpopular opinion (only one I actually share though) and then defend it with every bit of logic and reason I can. It earns me few friends, but I feel it just goes to show that I can think for myself, which is something normal people can't really stand.

If you had the ability to fight back with logic, to think for yourself, you'd have my respect even if we disagreed. Instead you simply hurl insults at something you don't even really understand. It just shows that you are what you claim to hate, makeing you even worse than the typical normalfag

By not being a part of any group I am exactly the sort who belongs here, whereas someone trying desperately to fit in is exactly what isn't wanted

I want this meme to die already.

Fuck this casual shit.

Mercy Mains are the fucking worst

i haven't found expert too bad, lost a few because of a retarded rein or torb.
legendary is going to cause me some difficulty though.

And this is how you weed out the shit Mercys from the good Mercys who know her pocket pistol is fucking amazing (like myself).

And somehow I'm the one whos not self aware.

You have no idea what the term "hugbox" means and you're just spewing buzzwords at this point. Fuck off, reddit.

Overcucks are literally pozzed.

How does it feel to be a fucking retard?

they didnt nerf his healing, they buffed(un-nerfed?) it at the cost of range. it was coupled with a 'nerf' to his self healing, but thats so he isnt harder to kill and it should actually come out slightly ahead of its old value if the wiki isnt lying. you also forgot to mention how he gains a speed boost while wall grinding.
the overall theme of this seems to be to make him feel more involved instead of the guy whos healing everyone from a baseball stadium away which coupled with his own slipperiness makes him an extra big pain. hell, they even made his gun slightly less terrible, playing an effective lucio should be more fun than ever.

besides that, would you actually have them buff mercy and zenyatta? the healing in this game was always terribly powerful, even before ana was introduced.

You, more than anyone, should know this because you are the one who plays SJWwatch here.

Okay so you don't have an argument and are now trying to save face over believing some fake shit on the Internet. It's amazing how retarded you are. Do your parent's know how retarded you are?

They don't. I should tell them to ask tips on how to raise a retarded son from your parents.

So you're saying you're retarded and your parents need tips for raising a retarded son?

Yeah, but I'm leagues away from being retarded like you, who gives Blizzkikes money in exchange for them pozz your neghole.

My neghole is pristine and remains with its virgin status. Your pozzhole is smelly and full of AIDS.

I'm not the one who pays for Overshit, you are.

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Nice proxies
I'm sure its just pure coincidence that most of the posts here are made by (1) and done faggots.

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"Not an argument" is not an argument

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But I wasn't making an argument, retard.

Blizzdrones are the reason vydya industry sucks so much nowdays.

You're never going to get your 10bux back

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Never gave Blizzkikes a single penny.

I wasn't talking about Blizzard, goon.

Never gave Blowtax and his CIA outfit a single penny either.

Sure you didn't, even though you act and smell like a goon.

But goons love this game

Goons love kosher things. It comes with the package when you're a shadow government disinfo agent.

goons also like being the only voice around

That's what happens when most other voices come from mouthbreathers and normalfags.

Then team up with me so I can get the shitters off my team. Tracers who don't attack the backs of bastions, Reinhardts that hit things instead of protecting against slicers and eliminators, and Mercy's that waste their ults outside of having multiple people down is driving me nuts.

Why are her thighs so thick?

Granted they still can.

Technically, it wasn't the chinese but rather some faggot from Everquest or whatever that game name was. Tigole was his name I think.
Some people have that pic that describes how Tigole and his guild of uber NEETs beat every content thrown their way and demanded for more of it, essentially creating threadmill lategame.

I really don't see something like that happening over to Overwatch, though.

I really wish they would keep these PVE modes in the game for good and add more of them.

Except WoW went to shit when they dropped raid progression, added catch up mechanics so any time investment is pointless and then killed server communities.

usually if its rough enough for someone to die its going to take an ult to unfuck the situation anyways, and the longer that teammate is dead the easier it is for the rest of you to get overwhelmed. of course, id rather rein hold his shield over them while someone else revives them but if hes not available and the body is too far from cover then theres no choice.

speaking of mercy, does anyone know how her damage boost gets applied? say reinhard charges a big bot, do i have to have the boost beam on him before his charge starts, before he 'pins' the enemy or as the damage is applied from hitting a wall?

is there consistency to this? as an example, junkrats bear trap. would i have to boost him before he throws the trap or as its triggered and the damage is applied?

WoW was never good and never will be

This

Damage boost works the exact moment damage happens, so on charge it only counts if you are boosting rein the instant he hits the wall. This is always consistent.

What isn't consistent is exactly what kinds of damage can be boosted. Torb and Symmetra turrets can not be boosted. I do not believe Junkrat's traps can be boosted either. The general rule is that those count as seperate entities, however Riptire and DVa's Self Destruct CAN be boosted, and I think Junkrat's mine works fine as well.

One of my favorite ultimates to boost is Hanzo. I can boost Hanzo at any time while his ultimate is in flight and the damage will be applied to anyone it is hitting, which means I have ample time to find him when I hear his callout and start boosting.

Boost this

That's implying "raid progression" is good to begin with when it's essentially the same game but with bigger numbers. As far as MMOs go, raid progression is nothing but padding, not real content.

The garrison thing should have been done a long time ago but focused on server-wide PvP between factions, not just more PvE with gear that only matters to do even more PvE. Some of the races they added should really have been their own faction so it wasn't just Aliance and Horde all the time either.

>Tfw main D.va
How fucked am I?

I think there's no hope for you.

out.

i really like this image.

I honestly think I suck at the game, but somehow it seems to work

You're like a fucking child, holy shit.

Honest to god question, how old are you?

I don't like it. I can't go fast and half of the characters use the same playstyle.
At the end of the day Blizzard still has my money, but I won't buy into this scheme ever again.

I main Mercy myself and I'm between Master and Grandmaster. I suck at aiming but I've gotten pretty good at Mercy's movement, positioning, and reading the situation.

Try the new Lucio. You seem to already have the game, so you don't really have anything to lose there.

If you like going fast there's like 3 different heros you can choose from;

Tracer, Lucio and Sombra, in that order.

Tracer goes fast by default and can gotta go fast with blink. (The equivalent of Scout from Hat Fortress)
Lucio can make the entire team gotta go fast, can wallride and even AOE heal if you want to.
Sombra goes somewhat fast and can troll with hacking and teleport, and also go invisible which makes her gotta go real fast.

I'm old enough to remember games that are good and require skill.

I'm old enough to tell when something is objectively trash for idiots and SJWists.

As for you nonsensical greentext and ad hominem not an argument.

Tigole, AKA Jeffrey Kaplan. You can also call him "that greasy kike from Overwatch", as now he's on Overmeme dev team.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Kaplan_(game_designer)
Jeffrey Kaplan, better known as Jeff Kaplan and whose alias is Tigole, is Vice President of Blizzard Entertainment and game director for Overwatch.

Look up activision and all the shit they've done to games.

Speaks fucking volumes.

Also it's not an ad hominem because I was never trying to argue with you dumbass.

wow you're telling me a jew is an executive at a company started by jews

how did that play out

What did he mean by this?

Generic circumcised vs uncircumcised penis argument

Ah, penis envy for a 2d girl, gotcha

Nice non-argument there. Everquest was fucked due to "moar raids!!1!" being considered good late game content, and that shit naturally progressed to WoW when that guy went there.
What does that have to do with Overwatch (that has no raids or item progression) or lesbian characters or clang? Nothing.

I get that you don't actually have a point but you were taught that, as long as you present something SJWs like, it's bad and therefore an argument.
But that's not really how discussions go, that's non-sequitur.


Actually for once, you can blame the players. They said it themselves that a lot of feedback they got from the players was "if there isn't an unlock system with progression I can work towards, I'm not interested in the game!"
That's why there are lootboxes and unlocks, because a lot of players are fucking idiots that prefer to collect virtual goods over playing the game. Call it the Counter Strike Syndrome if you will.

So I should answer a disingenuous question that isn't connected to a coherent point or idea that also contains insults?

Why? Why would I do that for you?

If someone came up to you and said "You're a fucking dum dum lol can you answer a question for me idiot?" would you do as they say?

There isn't much going on in that head of yours user. Well I guess that makes you Tumblrwatch target audience anyway.

He's not the sole reason, but he's one of them. With jews, you always lose.

Oy vey, gotta keep business in the tribe.

Tracer does NOT go fast by default. Her default runspeed is exactly the same as everybody else. The ONLY hero in the game who has a different base run speed is Genji. Still, between her blinks and small hitbox she certainly feels fast, re-acquiring a target after you blink takes a good bit of skill as well.

Sombra doesn't really go fast in combat. Her stealth run speed and translocator are both good for positioning, but once she starts doing anything her speed goes out the window. Not really a good recommendation.

Lucio, like I mentioned above, gets a 30% move speed bonus with speed aura on, 70% during his Amp, a 20% speed bonus while wallriding, and another 20% when he jumps off the wall. They stack (amp replaces standard of course), so he can get up to either 210 or 245% speed. Not really sure whether it's multiplicative or additive. Anyway, with jumping on and off walls and speedboosting being something you do all the time in combat, he should definitely satisfy the "go fast" need.

Sounds like something by some salty casual to me.

Spotted the kike.

You're confusing gear treadmill with raid progression, which is stupid considering modern WoW is ten times the gear treadmill that Vanilla/TBC was.

Raid progression had a meaningful impact on the server because it meant different guilds with different ability levels could work on content suitable for them and make progress. People who started playing late in Vanilla or up to near-late TBC still experienced content in the intended way because they'd be able to join guilds still working on early content (or recently created) and work their way up.

Now they're so scared about consumption numbers that anyone joining late in an expansion can skip everything except the last raid, jump into LFR for it and see the most watered down version of it. And then they wonder why their subscriptions are dropping like a rock.

Sounds like something some elitist NEET would say.


One thing comes along with the other, treadmill gear isn't even the problem but rather a symptom.
As the game goes on, if more and more new raids are made, the previous ones will obviously see less players. And since they have to have better gear and harder opponents to make sense as "new content" for players that already completed the previous raids, then you have a linear progression that only increases as more content is made.

New players will always have to play catch up with everyone else since experienced players won't be wasting time on previous areas and the game becomes an actual theme park, where everyone visits rides 1,2 and 3, then wait for ride 4 that requires finishing ride 3 first, then wait for ride 5 that requires finishing ride 4 first, etc etc.
Meanwhile, nobody is doing rides 1,2 and 3 and the company is shitting their pants because if 60% of the playerbase does ride 7 in less than 3 months, then they won't have enough time to make ride 8.

It's shit. It's no different than "episodic content" or the multiple iteractions of CoD.
There's nothing wrong with PvE and cooperation, even making an entire game surrouding it. But expecting said game to have player progression and then hoping it stays alive for several years is stupid.
You either have player progression but a limited playtime (normal singleplayer RPGs with cooperation) or you have no player progression and unlimited playtime (Left4Dead)

You want player progression, longer playtime and actual content? Make it about PvP since you can't beat player's creativity and competition in terms of content.

Did you even read my post? My entire point was that all content was used because different guilds with different skill levels could work on content. The fact you think everyone saw every raid in vanilla or TBC is absurd. Did you even play back then?

Okay you're just functionally retarded then.

So you are saying that the "game director" of Overwatch has nothing to do with Overwatch, right?

Are you butthurt about people online pointing out that he is jewish, or that he used Overwatch to shill homosexuality/robosexuality, or both?

I like overwatch a lot but the matchmaking system is utter crap. Even CS:GO has a better one.

>>>/reddit/

Nothing bad with the other game, but why the double standard?
If you really wanted to criticize the creative decisions in the game you don't need to be reaching so hard. Just point to the fact that Mei's Chinese New year skin was modified in order to appease the "impossible body standards" faggots once they started reporting her waist size as a "bug". The worst thing about this is that they didn't fix the actual bugs with that skin, like the jutting in her butt of how the canister on her back is floating.

So is this game the new LoL fanbase game? I'm getting those vibes.

It attracts the same crowd

The problem that Tigole imported from Everquest to WoW was related to raids and post-game content that pretty much screwed both games.
That has not happened with Overwatch nor does it seem likely as it doesn't even make sense.
Your bad attempt at relating lesbians and clang to this make no sense either, you just want something everyone can agree with to appear you actually have a point.

Unless Kaplan makes Tracer's cunt a late-game raid for every Omnic


2B is a girl. That Omnic ain't. That's the explanation and yes, it's petty as fuck.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
Confirmation bias, also called confirmatory bias or myside bias,[Note 1] is the tendency to search for, interpret, favor, and recall information in a way that confirms one's preexisting beliefs or hypotheses.[1] It is a type of cognitive bias and a systematic error of inductive reasoning. People display this bias when they gather or remember information selectively, or when they interpret it in a biased way.

I remember that one of the dickhead Blizzard developers leapt on the SJW bandwagon during Gamergate and essentially said that he wanted to set up a system on Twitter to blacklist people from employment for talking positively about it. Naturally everyone told him it was illegal and he backpedalled in a day, but it shows what kind of people they employ.
As for Overwatch: never played it, never going to.
Not falling for that one again, Blizz


This game is cancer. I tried to play a game with randoms vs AI once and there was a cunt who spent the entire game as Mei throwing walls in front of me everytime I wanted to kill an enemy.

Yes. The playerbase is fucking cancer.
And this is coming from someone who really enjoys the game.

Fine game, but the community is absolute fucking garbage. The GTA playerbase is miles ahead, and that's saying something.

only reaper gets a younger voice for the pve mission? not ana or soldier?

>>>/reddit/

I want Widow to sit on my face

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is this spray called handheld because lolis are small? if shes smaller than the onion doll she must be fairy sized

I think it's supposed to be a bigger pachimari than the ones you see in game.


It wouldn't make too much sense for them to have too different voices. The event is set not too long before the organization is disbanded.

maybe youre right. im confusing "without the edgy reverb" with "younger"

>cries >>>/reddit/

Nice Tsundere.

Sombra seems fun but I can't into not dying with her
I'm level 15 in this cancerfest please help

Guess Forbidden Planet was Jewish propaganda as well.

Go to the opposing team as a disruptor, not as a full-on flanker, and only do so when your teammates are doing a push.
Give priority to enemies with movement-based abilities like Tracer or Pharah. Most players using those characters will lose their shit once they are unable to reposition themselves, so take them out by yourself if you see them flailing around.
Tanks like D.Va or Zarya will be near useless once you hack them, too. Also keep hacking any medikits that are accessible to your teammates, every time they use them builds up your ult.

I just tried this on someone elses nogaems4 and I think I have cancer now.
Console shooters should be a felony

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Monsters of the subconscious is coming to get you user, only a Jewish shaman psychoanalist can save you.

Says you.

It's an implied romantic relationship. Which is wrong because as we all know, all sex is good for is procreation and therefore she is wasting her eggs on a machine instead of producing more white babies to die in some pointless war defending those that wouldn't risk their own neck for themselves.

I can't wait for sexbots to be an actual thing and we can finally ignore these "you must make more soldiers for MY army!" faggots. Sexbots ain't gonna give me kids, but then again that stopped being a benefit for me a long time ago.


You suck at killing people and that's pretty much Sombra. You're not supposed to "1v1 me fgt", you're supposed to be a fucking cunt. Steal medkits, hack people, attack from one side to get their attention then relocate out, engage them when your team engages too, go after snipers, etc.

Your passive is the biggest hint to this, you're supposed to go after weakened targets, not shoot at someone with full health. Provide utility, flank with your team, not alone and ALWAYS HAVE A BACKUP PLAN. Be it an Hacked Large Medkit nearby or a relocator to get you out or cover you can retreat to and Invis-away, never engage without knowing you can get out because you'll need that plan always.

I'm serious here, I once took down a Roadhog alone by consuming the same Large Medkit 3 times during the fight, relocating around him, using cover and knowing when he was reloading while hacking him so he couldn't hook me.
Got lucky a bit but it was pretty cool. He got a Mercy to follow him and they were waiting right on top of my relocator for me to teleport back. Too bad I walked invisible there instead and I got to kill Mercy right under his nose.


Does he look like he wants to psychologically torture you, exterminate your entire race, produce neurotoxins, zombies or some other plan to buttfuck you and give you a cold shoulder or passive agressive remarks?
Then he ain't a female robot.

The reason why Overwatch is so poorly balanced is due to one man, Geoff Goodman. This is a guy who Kaplan brought in just to get advice from and to help out, and now all of a sudden he's in charge of balancing this entire game.

I wouldn't say Overwatch is poorly balanced (with maybe an exception to Symmetra having some really dumb range with her lock on fire). What I will say is that it's pretty really oversaturated with characters that do similar things too much (Hanzo was the first symptom of this since he's the second sniper and doesn't do much different from Widow and was originally part of Genji's kit in the first place, and Orisa is kinda a clusterfuck too) and if they're going to add more characters they need to either A. give more abilities to other characters B. actually redesign maps a bit to accommodate more choices in characters and C. maybe even redo certain characters all together

Hanzo, played properly, isn't at all like Widow. He wants to play in the same range as Soldier or McCree and he's a lot more mobile. Basically he's an offense hero with tons of burst damage and a very high skill floor.

Anyway, the game is looking fairly balanced right now to be honest. Were in more of a nitpicky phase where everyone is good but some heroes might be just slightly better. Yes there are some heroes that are extremely niche, but I think they were intended to be that way from the start.

The real problem child is Ana. Ana is the main reason why the tank meta exists, and yet Blizzard is seemingly refusing to nerf her. The D.Va nerf, while needed, went way too far and made her close to the bottom tier of heroes. There is clear indication Blizzard has a bias towards certain heroes, since apparently Scott Mercer's favorite character is Ana.

I wouldn't say the skill floor is very high with the borked hitboxes on the arrows. But yes I agree with everything else you mentioned.

I'll disagree with you on all 3 examples.
Symetra's range always looks longer when you're the one frying, try playing with her and it never seems long enough.
Plus, her damage always starts small and she needs her sentrys to slow you down, otherwise you'll break the beams easily or even murder her first at that range.

Hanzo also performs very differently from Widow. He's a "stealth sniper", more effective at a closer range and expected to stay more mobile than her, hitting from the sides, not from long range. He can also give information to his team more reliably but localized, which changes how it works. You want to know routes and set up ambushes with both arrows, not predict the entire movement of the entire enemy team.
He can also help more against all kinds of targets while Widow is specialized to hunt supports and other high value targets.

Orissa is essentially what the Heavy in Team Fortress should have been. She can take a punch, actually protect people in her team (not just having a bigger hitbox) and do some decent harass with her gun that doesn't even need to actually kill people, just force them to run for cover, and even brings ultility with the Alt-Fire.
For someone that actually liked to play Heavy, let me tell you. She's a dream come true. Instead of being an innefective killing machine compared with other characters, you get a ranged tank to protect your team and put pressure on the other. It's pretty cool.

You're being way too kind here. When half of the entire cast is useless in competitive because of the tank meta and Ana, you know something is seriously wrong. It doesn't help that, when it came to Symmetra, Blizzard was so adamant that we just didn't know how to play her right that it took them months to finally admit Symmetra needed a massive overhaul. Sombra is in the same boat right now, with Jeff and Geoff telling us we're not playing her the right way. So why the fuck didn't they tell us exactly how to play her to begin with?

Point is Blizzard doesn't listen to feedback. They were yelled and screamed at that the Bastion buff was going to make him way too OP and they still went through with it anyway, and it took Jeff Kaplan playing the game to finally figure that out.

Orissa's problem is that Reinhardt is still mandatory in all levels of competitive play.

Wanted to add: Matchmaking is still fucked. Its hilarious how badly Blizzard rolled out this update. Its like every good idea they have automatically goes to shit because Blizzard is seemingly incompetent at actually balancing anything.


Blizzdrones will defend him to the death, and will often use the "Wrestle with Jeff prepare for death" meme to defend him.

Bad Hanzos are a meme for a reason. Hitboxes or no he's a very hard hero to play well enough to not be dead weight. Anyone can get a random headshot/scatter, but very few Hanzos can replace a soldier/mccree and expect to win. When they do though, he is actually quite good.;


Pro level is another story, but in the matchmaking scene pretty much all heroes are viable to some extent. I've seen plenty of Sombras played well. The only heroes I really doubt right now are Reaper, because Roadhog does everything he does better, and Orisa, who I expect will be incrementally tuned for a while.

Most people use that mockingly, you dumb cunt. Also in all seriousness: What's the problem with matchmaking? That it takes too long?

Why can't you faggots just stay on halfchan and make your generals there? Why do you insist on bringing your cancerous SJW blizzard garbage here?

Its 2017 user, let it go.

Completely agree. At this point the sniper who's dead weight right now is Widow. I've seen way more cancerous players "maining" her, while most Hanzos who are fucking up during the match end up realizing this and switching accordingly.

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Bad players who wont switch or can't play anything else. Some of the best widows in the world are actually pretty cancerous in matchmaking, I've had the misfortune of playing with both Taimou and Kephrii. Widow can be pretty devastating at times, so she's definitely not a bad hero, but her usefulness can end quickly in a match and then she needs to switch fast.

This picture is particularly infuriating.

Character balance is near perfect right now, it's the commie matchmaking system in quickplay that's the problem.

In diamond, about to hit 60% winrate and your mains are weak to pharah?
Well fuck you fight this grandmaster duo-queue PharMercy; back to fucking 50% winrate you go.

Protip: Everyone is weak to Pharah. Pharah is weak to team coordination

pharah is weak to hitscan player with gamesense

it's just an example regarless

Nope. She has the advantage in a duel with Soldier or McCree. Widow is good against her if she can keep a large distance, but if Pharah is able to get close she has the advantage there as well.

In order to beat Pharah you need teamplay. You protect your hitscans and get them to better positions, focus her with multiple heroes, or as the pros do it, ignore her entirely and kill her team faster than she can respond. If your team is staggered, uncoordinated, and taking long engagments Pharah is going to wreck you no matter how good your hitscan player is.

Boy do I love being against teams of 4 plats and 2 actual diamonds (3000+ rank at the time) while we have 5 golds and 1 plat
If I have to wait 20 minutes to queue atleast try to make them relatively even Blizzard
Hard to win, or even leave spawn when you're being matched against people 2 whole ranks above you with 700+levels on you
why doesn't their matchmaking system git gud, since I'm not being paid to play this shit, they're getting paid to manage it
That makes you lose ~70 mmr, can't try to avoid that forced 50% ratio goys
Also most of the new skins are absolute steaming shit, the only good ones are orisas and widows

Mercy skin is pretty good, its just that the Witch skin is better.

Did something happen on halfchan last week?

Oh, also Genji and McCree skins. McCree more for his weapon.

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Pharah's weak to D.Va if you pull up your DM, charge her and blast her ass while falling.

I main D.Va, too - she's still viable, but you have to compensate for her newly obtained squishiness by shifting the fuck away the second you armor and first 100 health are gone.

Your main role is now not flanking, but actively tanking using your DM against ults and high DPS characters. It's hard because you have to know when to use it.

Of course, applying ample amounts of seasoning to fatass enemy heroes still applies - and with Roadhog you can do both!

Did they make any adjustments to the leveling system? I feel like it takes forever to reach a new one, even with a group.

It only feels like it takes forever if you are actively trying to level. Ignore the levels entirely and they just keep coming and you are level 700 before you know it.

For your actual question, they changed it once, many months ago, making it faster in general but making the first levels after prestiging up slower. If you are in your first 20 or so levels it should be unchanged, after that just keep in mind that it's faster on the whole.

The different between Widow and Hanzo is that you don't see how you're fucking up and how you're negatively impacting your team as much with Widow.
At worst, you just miss a lot of shots, get 9% accuracy and kill 1-2 people in a match, but since nothing is happening, you don't notice that you reduced the match to 5v6.

With Hanzo however, you're in the thick and when you fail to support your team as a sniper, you're next in line for a bullet, so you directly see that you're not helping.
Even if out of frustration, you'll pick something else while bad Widows will just stay up a balcony missing their shots all day erryday.

Good Widow mains know very well what her actual role is and they know when they fuck it up.
Bad Widow mains couldn't handle Spies in TF2 so they changed to Overwatch.

Genjis hardly ever are in a good position for you to heal them and they should be consuming kits from the enemy team anyway.
Soldiers and Bastions that need extra healing are just bad players, let them win Darwin Awards. Stick with your tank and slightly tough characters, like Reaper and Mei.

Tfw no Easter bunny skin for Mercy

I think that's supposed to be shipper faggotry, not characters that Mercy should focus her healing to.

I'm so sick of players who do not care about objectives, literally standing away from it during overtime or never contesting, I feel like it's more than 60% of my games.


Mercy is still a huge asset with Bastion when using her damage booster though.

keeping soldiers heal on cooldown is just dumb, top him off do your job. look at it this way since youre such a selfish jew, he wont be able to drop it on you.

well, his poor mobility and relative predictability make sure youll rarely ever see him in 6v6s outside of special picks but that has little to do with his effectiveness as a killing machine. maybe after the nerfs but i havent played since before that.

are you fucking retarded or new to this game? Pharah is in the lower spots of tier at the moment, next to Reaper and Torbjorn. She is decimated by McCree and Soldier, can be oneshot by Roadhog if she's not careful, can be sniped easily (her mother is one of her best counters), etc

She's only in low tier in pro tournaments, which happen to have high levels of coordination at all times. Even there, she's got 25%+ usage right now (reaper and torb are 0)