Jason Unruhe calls for the death penalty against Chicago teens who beat up white man

youtube.com/watch?v=PW8f4G0zTJo

Does Holla Forums agree? Or has the Roo man taken things too far?

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4threvolutionarywar.wordpress.com/2016/06/27/the-iranian-precursors-of-the-fourth-political-theory-eugene-montsalvat/
counterpunch.org/2016/12/02/the-coming-war-on-china/
revolutionarydemocracy.org/archive/ChinaAlbania.pdf
espressostalinist.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/class-struggles-in-china.pdf
marxists.org/reference/archive/hoxha/works/imp_rev/toc.htm
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1873/01/indifferentism.htm
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soul#Judaism
marxists.org/reference/archive/hoxha/works/1978/07/30.htm
youtube.com/watch?v=nwtxZatWbTU).
twitter.com/MaoistRebelNews/status/818922186601885697
ricknevin.com/
timwise.org/2013/07/crime-race-and-the-politics-of-white-deflection/
thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/12/10/the-most-horrific-cop-rape-case-you-ve-never-heard-of.html
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Violent lumpenproles should be given no quarter, especially when their crimes are against the most vulnerable members of society. Also torture is one of the most anti-social crimes out there. Under communism actively torturing another would ideally result in immediate execution.

I like that a person cant write all that shit and Jason's brilliant response is an immediate ad-hom and a no true Scots man for turd worldism.

He is an entertaining baby.

I can understand why he didn't take the time to some village idiot from the YouTube left.

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Daily reminder Islamic Communists are the true NazBols.

4threvolutionarywar.wordpress.com/2016/06/27/the-iranian-precursors-of-the-fourth-political-theory-eugene-montsalvat/

Violent lumpen are barely an issue.

Victimizing others is not a revolutionary act. Criminals have no place in a revolution, unless they are actively aiding the vanguard. Even then, once the revolution has succeeded those criminal elements should be purged immediately in order to avoid having to deal with them in government like Lenin had to do with Stalin.

Jason Unruhue is a shrunken-head-faced reactionary turd who should go back to running his country into the shitter and stop sperging out about other people's domestic affairs like anybody not from there gives half a fuck what his faggot ass thinks or like it's any of his damn business. I'm sick of his retardate opinions being presented as something that should matter at all.

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I like how you tried to frame what they did in the most innocuous way possible: "Chicago teens who beat up WHITE MAN" OP

It's really a work of art but why not come out and say what it is: they tortured a mentally disabled man and filmed it for the whole world to say, all because they were upset about the least effectual thing I can possibly imagine: a bourgeois election.

Based Unruhe tbh.

super-exploitation is a meme, it just the new cost of labor power

*whole world to see

But he's the No.1 MARXIST ON YOUTUBE!!!!

According to who? Some surburban basement dwelling white "marxist" on the internet?

Sultan-Galiev's predictions were proven right by Soviet social imperialism.

Assata Shakur is a hero.

Ward Churchill has some good stuff on indigenous radicalism.

"Decolonizing" is a meme.

Doesn't Unruhe claim he isn't white because he's Saami, and the Saami people are the same thing as Native Americans?

Has he finally gone Nazbol?

And Molyneux has the "most popular philosophy podcast."

Third Worldism IS NazBol.

You mean the theory that nationalist revolutions in colonial/muslim countries are communistic by default? That's definitely disproven, friend. Look at all the Asian "communist" they were literally all garbage because most of them had some ties to the American OSS and arose in strength during WWII perhaps the most liberal period of the Lenin-Stalin era.

Mao was a revisionist whose ideas were nothing but Trotskyism with Chinese characteristics and some vague references Stalin to make communists who aren't in power in the rest of the world care about the middle kingdom. His rule was followed by a turbo-capitalist, who it must be said, at least had some economic acumen. Now China is the most unequal country in the world (with the possible exception of South Africa) and a rising imperialist power. I don't see how any of that proves Sultan-Guliev or any of the standard assortment of post-colonialist mysticism you'd see on the Sons of Malcom blog correct–its the opposite of what they generally predict in their """"critique"""' of "Eurocentric" communism.

Almost every country in the third world has spooky nationalist cults and movements but you can count the number of third world regimes willing to resist Western imperialism on your hand. I can't even think of one bourgeois-nationalist regime dedicated to opposing all imperialists at once they just lean towards one bloc or the other.

Assata Shakur and Ward Churchill's relative merits has little to do with the fact that they have a weak grasp of Marxism and communism from everything I've seen from them.

Given the reddit-tier socialism in this thread, I assume you meant to say "'decolonizing' is not a meme" but if you meant to say this well then that is one thing we can agree on.

*references about Stalin

Explain.

Hail Heidegger!

I thought this was common knowledge?

top kek

How are black people living in the US (living, at least according to Third Worldists, off of the surplus value created by third world exploitation) not "colonists/oppressors" as well?

Honestly I agree that you need to stamp out criminal and reactionary behavior like this with the utmost brutality in a situation for revolution if we didn't crush these two we'd be signalling that not only would it be okay for other revolutionaries to do similar acts but it would be giving idpollers legitimacy

The combination of outreach towards US-imperialism and economic liberalism did not have its roots in the late Maoist-Dengist period:

counterpunch.org/2016/12/02/the-coming-war-on-china/

So I know what the typical Maoist defense will be that this was during the period of New Democracy and Mao only said this to get support etc. and I suppose it would be forgivable if Mao didn't go out of his way to wreck socialism in China.


revolutionarydemocracy.org/archive/ChinaAlbania.pdf

As Bland shows it wasn't the "rightist wing" wing of the CPC who was responsible for the abolition of planning but in fact Mao himself who led a campaign against centralized planning and even against the concept of equilibrium in a socialist economy which led to China essentially not having real five year plan after the 50s: espressostalinist.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/class-struggles-in-china.pdf

Mao even said that with Stalin he felt "like a pupil" but with Khrushchev it was like they were true comrades!

marxists.org/reference/archive/hoxha/works/imp_rev/toc.htm
Read any of Hoxha's major works because he pretty much exposes Mao's garbage line which left a whole generation of radicals brain dead and fighting amongst themselves (more then should've been the case).

Whites are the ones who uphold the system, blacks live in 2nd world conditions.

Meanwhile, in reality:
"It cannot be denied that if the apostles of political indifferentism were to express themselves with such clarity, the working class would make short shrift of them and would resent being insulted by these doctrinaire bourgeois and displaced gentlemen, who are so stupid or so naive as to attempt to deny to the working class any real means of struggle. For all arms with which to fight must be drawn from society as it is and the fatal conditions of this struggle have the misfortune of not being easily adapted to the idealistic fantasies which these doctors in social science have exalted as divinities, under the names of Freedom, Autonomy, Anarchy. However the working-class movement is today so powerful that these philanthropic sectarians dare not repeat for the economic struggle those great truths which they used incessantly to proclaim on the subject of the political struggle. They are simply too cowardly to apply them any longer to strikes, combinations, single-craft unions, laws on the labour of women and children, on the limitation of the working day etc., etc. "
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1873/01/indifferentism.htm

Third Worldism is antimarxist balderdash.

It doesn't. At best you can take the "have your cake and eat it too" line of MIM and say that white people are on average wealthier then non-whites. And that the effect of this is that most whites are bought off except for the lowest portion who are too small to constitute a proletariat.

The problem with this is 1. the classics don't teach that if say only 30% of white people are proletarian then that means there is no white proletariat and you shouldn't bother organizing them. Lenin was constantly savaging people who thought that the proletariat in Russia had no potential because it was a numerically small proportion of the population. 2. too many blacks are employed and ipso facto are labor-aristocracy according to most Third Worldist analysis. So, that means there isn't really a black proletariat either, so what groups like MIM preach is organizing the lumpen which still isn't a proletariat but just a part of it.

Third Worldism also goes against the teaching of the classics that the key is to organize workers across national/racial lines not to promote hatred and disunion against oppressor nation workers. Why do you think Lenin sperged out so hard against the Bundists and their Jewish idpol?

Torturing a disabled person is a level of dangerous antisocial behavior incompatible with life in society. The two options are put the people in a cage (prison) forever or put them to death. I don't see the upside in simply keeping them around in a cage forever, it's a drain on society. Better to put them out of their misery.

Blacks are more or less on the DNC payroll to show up every four years and mass vote for the system to remain in place. This is the welfare state that has been set up, they are more or less paid voters / political activists on behalf of the system. In this regard, they are far more politically dangerous than whites who work in the system and suffer the consequences of it directly.

You're defending Holla Forumsacks from ever getting their well deserved beating, as they are "disabled persons".
Neither of those options make sense as jails should be completely abolished eventually and death penalty, if put in place, and i'd even argue against it, should be reserved to (potentially) fatal and politically motivated acts.

The sentence for these Lumpen should obviously be 5 years of Gulag.

Literally only fox news hosts think this

and whites are operating it.
uphold the system*
is this a joke?

Shut up idiot.

While those fuckers were horrible, I wouldn't give them the death penalty. Sending them to prison or forcing them to do community service would be better.

Third Worldists often repeat reactionary rhetoric. They are a bit like tankies in that way.

and anarchists are stupid edgy liberal faggots

What is this even supposed to prove? Did they not have any data on the rest of the world? How exactly is the figure tabulated? Have you never read any of the critiques made by Marxists (including Marx) on how welfare can actually be perverted and used as a measure to support capitalists in a direct or indirect way?

This map doesn't even have data on China, Japan, and Taiwan which from everything I've read about them have relatively high social expenditures.

If this happened in Maine or Washington they would have just been shot by the victem anyway.

They would have been shot by an alcoholic actor or some kind of alien lamp-monster taking over people's brains with cell-phone signals.

Also the ending would suck

I would have the teens shot.
This is the first sane thing Jason has said.

Jason would say so.

Jason would be drawing the right conclusion based on his Third Worldist analysis. You can criticize that analysis as being based on a faulty premise but at least Jason isn't trying to have his cake and eat it too like the idpol libs on /r/communism who flirt with Third Worldism.

this
Leftypol thinks everything minorities do is idpol

meant for

I disagree with the entire criminal "justice" system. They should not be punished at all. They should be prevented from causing further harm and then rehabilitated until they either die or are deemed to no longer be a danger.

Humanity is still far too emotionally primitive to support such a course of action though.

You fucking people sure are sperging harder about this than about any of the daily violence black people experience in the US. Was this act horrifying? Yes, but the level to which you're dedicating your time to it is telling of the racial demographics of this board, as well as this , IE, that you retards are so deep into ideology that you have begun to believe that for all intent and purposes any struggle that remotely relates to the social condition of a minority is "idpol" and no different from a tumblr otherkin rights activist.

I don't this guy is himself a Third Worldist, rather he is just trying to point out what he sees as inconsistencies in Jason's Weltanschauung.

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libs just resort to various rehashes of the same line over and over again.

you want to bring back the good days cunt?

She says it's not her view that all whites and Jews are guilty of colonialism/Zionism.


Correct.

Did you people not go to school?

This kind of stuff happens between young people all the time my god, calling for teenagers to be executed for it is obscene even by roo roo standards.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soul#Judaism

A "tough of crime" policy does not work as a deterrent and execution is obviously an ineffective punishment. Execution has always had a populist appeal but does nothing to actually improve society, and in reality having any sort of execution policy guarantees that people will, at some point, be wrongly executed. While someone who's been wrongly imprisoned can be released and giving reparation, someone who's been wrongly executed can never be let free.

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No, that's not idpol. It becomes idpol when they start saying "it's [identity]'s fault" (often white people).

What kind of ghetto did you grow up in when young people kidnapping and torturing another teen was considered the norm?

It's not about being "tough on crime." It's about removing anti-social individuals from existence.

And anti-social behavior isn't necessarily pathological. Real life isn't Batman where criminals are born to be lumpens. A couple of people are unchangeable, but most of these people would probably be considered mentally ill.

yeah pretty much

Is that idpol as well?

I'm from England we don't have ghettos

No, I dont agree because I hate death penalty

If it weren't for the statists and the government anyone attacking another person would be executed without quarter.

You do. Ever been to the Muslim ghettos outside of London?

The Independent Caliphate of Londonistan is not part of England. It is a sovreign state and loyal only to The Prophet Mohammed PBUH.

I see.

at least they took over a city that was already a shithole

Indeed. Northern England FTW. Those southerners must be sent into the bin.

I still don't see how this implies Mao was a Trotskyist. Did Mao believe in Permanent Revolution?

As in did he call it permanent revolution? No. But there are pretty obvious similarities between Trotsky's idea of permanent revolution and Mao's conception of the Cultural Revolution. Since, there is more to Trotskyism then just permanent revolution I'd say Maoism is similar to it in a lot of other ways as well. Bourgeois scholars in Mao's time drew a correlation between Mao's theories and Trotsky's; and so did Hoxha: marxists.org/reference/archive/hoxha/works/1978/07/30.htm

Just look at the practice and rhetoric of Maoists and Trotskyists and you'll see that there are a lot of similarities. Maoist groups especially in the West even split over everything too because of "muh two line struggle."

He's pretty awful.
Death penalty isn't warranted, but they should probably go to jail or juvie

Thanks.

Yeah, I actually agree with this. Iran was very close to being a Marxist revolution until the clerics backstabbed the communists.

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I agree with comrade Unruhe on this.

How accurate would you say persepolis was on this score?

I've never read/seen Persepolis.

They are all adults. They knew what they were doing. Lumpen who violently attack and torture others should not be given mercy.

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pretty fucking first worldist t b h

Demanding black youth be put to death by a known racist system is racist.

We've been over this they aren't really "youths"

And By a similar logic any attempt to punish them at all is racist too. Well I guess its gonna be pretty racist when we hang Obama and watch his feet kick until they stop.

Long Live Unruhe

I'm not saying it's racist to hold them to personal responsibility. I'm saying it's racist to have faith in a "justice" system that's known to be racist. All of these black kids will get harsher punishment than white kids with the same charges.

Since when does:

That's like saying people who say "jail the bankers" or "arrest Bush! Bush is a war criminal" unironically believe there is nothing wrong with the justice system.

Life not being fair =/= get out of jail free card. I can't even think of a case that has the same charges off the top of my head except maybe Dylann Roof's murders and I don't remember anyone arguing against the death penalty in his case.

The closest thing to it in the news recently was a white guy who sexually assaulted a disabled black student. While it was a somewhat similar crime the main difference is that 1.it wasn't racially motivated 2. he tried to hide what he did not conceal it from the world.

While I don't agree with Jason's line he's not being inconsistent by supporting the death penalty in both cases (youtube.com/watch?v=nwtxZatWbTU).

Death to torturers! Solidarity with the disabled! Down with lumpen gangsterism! Up with proletarian unity!

*not broadcast it for the whole world to see

I like how this Jewess used actual examples from history to prove Jason wrong and all Jason can respond with is an ad hom.

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How is the system known to be "racist"?

Blacks get harsher punishments than whites.

They also commit far more serious crimes. Blacks are overrepresented in violent crime statistics, committing nearly or over half of all violent crime despite being ~14% of the population.

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No, I'm suggesting that they receive harsher penalties for harsher crimes.

You're still wrong.

All sociological statistics have proven this false.

Statistics don't work that way you retard, individual blacks are treated more harshly than individual whites with the same rap sheets. If you can't tell the difference between quantity and quality you have no business arguing about anything objective

Reminder that Unruhe is based and only edgy first world anarchists dislike him

The Jewess in the image is right: Unruhe is a terrible third worldist. He argues for his ideology solely on charts and graphs denoting the cost of living and wages.

So what, men get harsher punishment than women.

Top fucking lel.
twitter.com/MaoistRebelNews/status/818922186601885697

Also, isn't Jason addicted to Burger King and refined sugars?

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I'd much rather be feminine than a fatty honestly. I'm a weeaboo though so I am probably biased

hail Unruhe, hail our comrades, hail victory

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See:

Maybe in fairy land. Face it, blacks commit more violent crimes than any other demographic, and this trend remains true even when you account for income and education.

That's because blacks are more alienated and poorer. How much crime is committed by suburban blacks compared to ghettoized blacks?

Also, population density is strongly correlated with crime.

aka fucking nothing

ricknevin.com/

What part of "this trend remains true even when you account for income and education" don't you understand?

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The citation is in the bottom of his image, buddy.

Shit, wrong pic.

O noes impoverished niggers and injuns be criminalzz! Ignore these low-income whites!

And, what, if crime really is part of their genes, is the solution? Does it start with G and end with enocide Mr. Holla Forums?

I agree with this tbh.

I don't know about rape specifically but I assume its included under "violent crime".

Maybe you'll find this article interesting from professional ally, cuck, and Jewish conspiracist Tim Wise: timwise.org/2013/07/crime-race-and-the-politics-of-white-deflection/

My opinion is that if black crime is a serious crime we can solve it under socialism. We didnt have gulags for no reason fam.

thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/12/10/the-most-horrific-cop-rape-case-you-ve-never-heard-of.html

According to your evidence, reality is wrong.