How are people playing Nier Automata and enjoying it without the full worldbuilding?

What is wrong on playing the only game with real gameplay?
What is wrong on ignoring the story?

Because then its a 10 hour press X to win experience, there is a LOT of hidden shit to get endings A through P

Start here: docs.google.com/document/d/1vEP2iZ52P-DWhQBQ2Is6R8Wjao99AGi0YuWShTvA-tA/mobilebasic?viewopt=127

That was intentional though. And also an half-truth: there aren't many, especially here, that would shell 60 euro/dollars for a waifu game, especially if they can pirate it i the long run. Contrary to Nier or Drakengard, the game was presented better in the west this time, then there are platinum fags, the pc release, etc. It's pretty fucking obvious that it attracted many people who didn't play the other games. 2B is a plus valor, a big plus in an age of character that seems like oily blobs.

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-and each NG+ after an ending changes the game with new quests and even replaying areas in new ways e.g the abandoned factory intro being a schmup/hacking section as 9S.

because it's all boring and irrelevant? the story in nier automata works just fine on its own, and the backstory is a convoluted mess.

undertale fans?

Yoko Taro is currently being crucified by the western journos for saying "i made 2B wear high heels because they look cute". 2B is a light in the darkness.

Soon you will discover that the church is corrupt and then you will fight Yu Yevon.

What The fuck are you talking about?

Thats good

How retarded do you have to be to not understand people enjoying a good game?

It'd be like ordering a fancy meal from a high-end restaraunt, made with a variety of herbs and whatevers for a unique sort of taste that really gets to you, then when the food comes you just wolf it down and not really savor the flavors. Your hunger gets satisfied but you're missing out on a lot of the dish.

The gameplay is not devil may cry, i love the game a lot but its the most shallow platinum combat has ever been. There are no strings just light and heavy attack and 4 weapon types. Even on the hardest setting you just need to dodge and mash to steamroll everything.

That's always the problem with platinum games. They give you this big fat arsenal of moves (even if this is the simplest it's still pretty complex) and then they just throw trash enemies at you to slice up.

do i have to play DOD3 to understand NierAM?

It's getting around that Platinum has been going down in quality. They managed to avoid too much attention by working on smaller games for smaller franchises.

I don't own a 360 or PS3.

Journos being a bunch of fags as always.If women didn't care about male opinion they would go around with a dirty shirt and surely not promote "beauty at any size, we are all beautiful, marry me and my 600 kg". Hell, most stylists are male, they can't fucking dress for shit.
Also, they can't fucking compete: look at that face and lips,2B more like 2cute

it gives important context to androids and some of their roles in the world. It's a difficult game to play, I suggest watching Clemps' videos.

lol

Watch some videos. If you like Nier its viewing material.

Nice quads.

Is this the final form of internet trolling?

user a PSTripple is like 40 trumpbux now, you go get one and go play Nier, Demon's Souls and all the other games you missed and need in your life.

they either turned into pillars of salt or were made into zombies under a group called legion which was taking over japan. OP also forgot to mention the wall of jericho.

Just Woolies experience at EVO.

Because that would begin the /sp/ and /woo/ summoning ritual.

Man.. I want to get into the series, but I don't have the time or the patience to play through a dozen games, each multiple times to get true and special endings, all while painstakingly digging through moonrune lore.

it's 5 games and doesn't require any sort of replays, just redoing a few sections.

I only played a little of original NieR and finished or got to the A ending of NieR Automata.
And I can only say that holy shit, that game still haunts me, I want to play it again since it was so much fun but the story broke me, only because the machines dindu nuffin.
I'm so sad with this game and the conclusion I got from ending A, its a masterpiece and I will play it again. Since Horizon zero dawn is shit. So now I want to hunt down drakengard and other yoko taro games.

Its worth it. Unlike Dark Souls style "but….perhaps" georgio tsukolous style headcanon fanwank its a concrete story and fun games.

Do it for him.

so you fight the boss but feel bad about it.

The important question here, why do you care?

Because people would be missing out on something good and without it a lot of the game would be gibberish and seemingly random bullshit and its worth pointing that out.

No need to be upset unless you are one of those 'get hype' culture types on the defensive for some reason.

Fine, fine… Is there at least a wiki or some kind of rundown I can get to tie in all the side supplemental material. Is there a play order I should tackle this?

Why do you care? Do other peoples level of enjoyment bother you so much? Do you have autism?

Just watch the games in youtube and play automata

:^)

I want to punch you just for suggesting that.

Lack of understanding basic emotional concepts and responses is actually a sign of low functioning autism friend, get tested and the healing can begin.

drakengard>nier>all the extra stuff listed on the wiki and (docs.google.com/document/d/1vEP2iZ52P-DWhQBQ2Is6R8Wjao99AGi0YuWShTvA-tA/mobilebasic?viewopt=127)>drakengard 3>nier automata

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Do you know what empathy mean?

Wonderful 101, Bayonetta 2, and Transformers: Devastation. I have to agree with They have been losing quality, I wonder why.

can't win everytime.

What fucking OOT references? you dont even have to know anything about OOT or zelda for that matter to enjoy wind waker. Also I watched this niggers analysis of the entire thing, I could have just played Drakengard 1 but the gameplay looks like dog shit to be honest with the exception of the flying dragon stuff.

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The opening cutscene? the ghost of the Zora which do not appear in the game in any other way? hyrule at the bottom of the sea floor?

Got my copy today. Game feels a tad harder than the demo but could just be because it's been ages since that.

Kamiya's virtue-signaling manlet servant Kellams just fucked off and, together with this game, things are starting to look good for them again.

Does anyone wonder what ever happened to the faggots that were pushing 2B to be a dickgirl? Did they leave or they stayed at the BoTW threads?

I'm guessing a bit of both. They realized that it's not canon so they move to the next gay thing.

They were just Marks disciples thirsty for Link, Skyward Sword was too long for them and they needed dick, but now breath of the crossdresser is out so they are occupied.

If it is, Shia Labeoff is going to be Patient Zero.

Honestly I'm not playing it for the story, though I sure-as-shit plan on picking up Nier for that later. I saw the fight against the singing machine way back and was like "Hol up. Is this some bullet hell in 3d?". And figured that I would be all for that, which I was. Nobody told me that after playing 2Butt, I'd get to play a bodysnatching hacker shota. Because I fucking LOVE the bodysnatching shota.

conveniently explains everything so you dont have to play the previous game.
Been a while since I have played windwaker but are there really zora ghosts in it? I dont remember those.

Ok that one probably confused some people.

So is this a NieR thread or just gay shitposting? Because if it's the first, I'm pretty grumpy about the factory escape boss. He has six or seven different attacks, all of which kill you instantly and the camera in the room is fucking terrible. And to top it off, the dodge fails about half the time so have fun getting butt spiked every damn time.

Oh christ I thought you were ranking them by quality

You mean the rolling ball one? Yeah I had issues with it, too. Luckily 2xShort Blade is pleasantly continuous so I just kept hammering it while abusing the R2 heavy attack.

The ball? i just kept breaking its leg armour off and that knocks it down.

Wait, you can break its leg armor? The one that starts with the shield until 9S disables the factory?

Yeah its made of destructable parts that take huge chunks of its hp off and disable it for a few seconds, were you just wailing on it?

Yep.

I was doing just that, actually. This is a damn game changer.

Just remember its not bayo or devil may cry just because it has a lock on anymore than its dark souls or zelda. Its nier. You dodge the bullets and smash the limbs.

Through the level you are being watched by a hologram of two little girls and at the end when 2B strangles 9S's body to stop a corruption spreading they are standing either side of you watching

I'm on hard tbh fam. Hence why every attack instantly kills me.

actually lock on makes hitting parts harder unless you use dodge to straffe to them.

If you pay attention they pop up in several places in rout B like when you are fighting Adam for the first time or when you fight Adam and Eve in the alien underground ruins.

wrong most users on Holla Forums are homosexuals or pedophiles so only care about the two totally naked fujoshi bait.

I wouldn't really know.

Serious question. Why would anyone want to play Dragongard or the Nier JRPG? Nobody cares about story in video games. The only people who care about story in video games are SJW and Mentally ill Transsexuals. Its all about good gameplay and Cute Girls. Seriously the fact that people want to play this just to look at 2B's ass is a good thing. Their are already way too many cancerous queers in vidya.

0/10

I think I love this game

Hello Holla Forums.

Try Gauntlet main + Big sword secondary. One of the attacks is 2b throwing up a gauntlet, then swinging at it with the sword to hit it like a baseball.

No, it was that the mystery of the game was really good. The machines had a mystery about it that I wanted to know more.
And the gameplay of NieR Automata was really good, or combat was really awesome and the animation of b2 was really good.

I could get into spoilers of the story and minor shit that got to me. I did not cry playing the game but did feel an empty feel after getting ending a and if all of it was worth it. Then I got the message NG+ the game for more stuff, I wanted to do it but I kinda wanted to try Horizon zero dawn, later to realize its a bad game.
So sooner or later I'm going back to it, or going back to Nioh

I'm not sure that's true. The combos for small swords at least don't change depending on which sword you're using, just how many hits there are.

For the longest time, Platinum was working on Scalebound, a game which looked far more ambitious and impressive than anything they released during that time (Korra and the TMNT game, for example).

And given that working with Microsoft was making Platinum employees suicidal, it stands to reason that the heavy drop in quality can be attributed to work contracts with Microsoft keeping them from putting their usual level of quality into every game they were suddenly contracted to make.

Because W101 was fucking great in all the right ways that MGR was great. Not just rock-solid mechanics, but also great level design and a variety of play that kept things varied and interesting.

Hopefully, the future will be better for Platinum. They don't deserve to be in this kind of slump and they didn't deserve the shit MS put them through.

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not bait, and not Holla Forums. I genuinely think story in video games is at best a nice distraction but not essential to what makes a game good. From what I hear about the Dragongard games is they are not really mechanically strong games and the only reason people play them is because of Yoko Taros eccentric writing. I hear better things about The original Nier JRPG, but it certainly doesn't look good from a in term of visual aesthetics and it comes out of a time when JRPGs where in shitty experimental limbo because they wanted to divorce themselves form the proven and successful formula of Dragon Warrior. There is also the fact that this entire series has become just a way of for leftist to Virtue signal that they are Cool with Futanari, which essentially translates to being a pro-Transsexual sodomite. Weather the game be Metal Gear Solid, Final Fantasy, or Planescape Torment, the mechanics come first. Story is always tertiary. So to demand people play the other games in the series to enjoy 2B's shapely legs and Automata's fun gameplay is a bit nonsensical. I doubt most (you) people are even really fans of Yoko Taros games. You are likely just hipsters who jerk off to men in drag and hate good video games.

from a

Man i genuinely don't know who you think will actually take such low tier b8. You need to tease the lie so folks buy it.

Don't encourage her.

excuse me?

Gunna get a lot of shit for this, but having never played the original Nier I just sorta like the surreal imagery and setting the game has going for i. It also does the whole "Btw robots might have feelings" sci-fi cliche in a not-overdone and stupid way. On top of all that the game is pretty fun, not as complex as MGR, but still breddy gud, wish more out there visonaries like Taro would team up with devs like Platinum.

2B is also really cute

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Tit&ass + cuhrazy action.
It's how you sell things to men and one of the reason there is massive deflation in western countries among 20-25 years old spending habits (because marketeers don't use tit&ass+action anymore because it's not encoded in feminized behavior, more money for me good).

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but its not bait. Why would someone like me who never played a Yoko Taros game want to go back and play his shitty Dragongard games? I could maybe justify forcing myself to play the Nier JRPG but it honestly doesn't seem that appealing. Most people who are who have good taste in video games known good story is not essential and story alone is no reason to spend hundreds of hours playing a otherwise bad game. You are not helping your case by acting like everyone should just Listen and Believe without question.

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cuntcuntHelp me. Please. I am suffering inside this dank, dark hole.
I need help.
Please.
Someone save me. I cannot save myself.

You will die like the rest.

Amen, story is accessory, like a really beautiful crown. A bad story can detract from a game, better have a small modest story than a bad one, a weird one can be intriguing as well.

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So there are some things I've been wondering that weren't really answered all that well.

Where did the aliens come from? Were they even actual aliens or just Watchers mistaken for aliens? In the original Drakengard the Imperial soldiers are being controlled by the Watchers, so did the same thing happen to the aliens? Why would the Watchers make a race of machines (or use aliens to make them) instead of fighting in person, as they've done in Drakengard? Who actually started Project YoRHa? Why do YoRHa's weapons display the Celestial Alphabet, but the Pod only says anything about detecting magic when you fight Emil?

The aliens made the machines to copy emil, he is a goverment made ultimate weapon after all

But why? The Watchers supposedly want to destroy humanity, but Nier already did that. Wouldn't they just take a look at his timeline and declare mission accomplished? Why bother invading an Earth devoid of humans?

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Not using Javascript is a pain sometimes.

Humans were dead before Nier happened, bar the opening centuries before. The cast of Nier were replicants and the Commander stored the data to make replicants on the Moon, in typical Taro fashion they were attacking the earth and flying right past their actual target in orbit

So they were trying to wipe out the last human genetic data? They should have guessed it would be in space. I thought super-advanced aliens were supposed to be smart.

Why are people so mad? You had to report me to Mark because you do not tolerate the slightest scrutiny? I am not baiting, this is not off topic shit posting. I genuinely want to know why we should worship Yoko Taro? Does asking reasonable questions trigger PTSD that you developed from spending too much time on tumblr?

I hate supperbunnyhop, the guy is the typical hipster faggot who would defend story in video games. Did he just happen to agree with me or something? Why are (you) people avoiding this serious topic?

That's true, I never said story was good or bad. I merely said it wasn't essential and it was not a selling point for a game that lacks polished mechanics. From what I understand Drakengard are not very good games. The first I ever herd of Yoko Taros was the original Nier JRPG which I passed up because I did not look appealing. Drakengard 3 still looks like horse shit and the only game that remotely looks fun to play is Automata. Why should people be forced to tolerate bad games in order to enjoy a good game? It would have been great if Drakengard and Nier where good games (asides form the story), but if I wanted to read a good Story I would buy a Novel. And finally the most important take away is "feminine penis" is jut code for sodomite and the world will be a better place once Queers are exterminated.

The same way they "enjoy" LotR without even taking a glance at the books, or being hyped about Warhamemr witout even knowing what a Kodex is.
Hype and peer pressure makes them want to "belong" and enjoy as well, so they pretend to like it as well, but ask them one little more indepth question and you get a blank look back, or some stuttering or whatever.

They're in it because they think they have to for god knows what reason and forget it the moment the next big thing appears.
some user once said it better then how I ever could but I never saved it

don't be retarded mods, this guy is free to think what he wants even if he's directing it in totally the wrong fucking area it's at least funny and he's getting something off his chest and nobody is taking him seriously.

literally no harm done.

In true Yoko Taro fashion the alien invasion comes from a joke track on a drama CD, where Emil is fleeing a boar only to run into stereotypical cartoonish aliens. There's a translated summary on GameFAQs: gamefaqs.com/boards/960449-nier/59214532?page=2

I'm pretty sure they have no direct connection to the watchers.

its not the mods, its mods getting stick of people reporting me for having a valid opinion that triggers them.

but LotR is a Novel not a video game. I don't want to play shitty video games just to understand something that amounts to eccentric ill conceived fiction. If Yoko Taros wrote Novels and this was a game based on his work then I could understand the snobbery. It would be similar to fans of Andrzej Sapkowski or fans of Michael Moorcock's Elric comics taking the piss out of CD projekt Red. Instead you are taking the piss out of people who rightfully see Drakengaurd as trash and instead of making a substantive counter argument people are crying to the Hot-pockets to remove "harmful opinions".

good job

If the aliens have no connection to the Watchers, why would Eve have the symbol of the Cult of the Watchers tattooed on him? Why would the machines look like Emil, who derived his powers from magic introduced by the Watchers?

Also, is there any reason Eve shares both his English and Japanese voice actor with Noctis from Final Fantasy XV? That's not very common, and given the collaboration with FFXV and Automata it's eye-catching. There's also the fact that both characters are distraught over losing a close relative. Eve lost his brother and Noctis lost his father. And we have the evil Noctis from the FFXV Omen trailer who has red eyes, just like the machines.

So, I just played the demo. The game is pretty fun, the way it switches between hack and slash, to platformer, to bullet-hell/2d shooter is pretty sweet.

Would it be recommended if I tried to play the predecessors before playing this ?

Play Nier then read up on the rest and then play automata.

For a game that is RPG heavy how do you just put the mental block on cutscenes or just skip through text dialogue and in game dialouge when you literaly can't care about the story? How do you know the next places to go to? can you also describe how you do it with games like Planescape torment and final fantasy.

the older games are harder to get into, nier is the best of them, but drakengard 1 and 3 especially have massive poor areas that make it hard to recommend them. The stories however are extremely good, and if anything I suggest watching Clemps' analysis/reviews of the games to get an idea of what's going on, why people like the games, and what answers to anticipate in Automata.

(((you)))
You seem to believe that everyone who likes a good story in a bad game are SJWs and the like, you also believe that anyone who likes futa is a "pro-Transsexual sodomite." You're likely just one of those faggots who project themselves onto their opponents, as evident by:

No user, you fail to understand. I did not say story should not exist in video game but that story good or bad is peripheral. Games like Planescape and Final Fantasy have solid core mechanics that facilitate an environment where a story may or maynot exist. The latter games in the FF fancies are key example of where the quality was of the gameplay was subverted by the idea that story was important. Instead of having a fun game, latter FF games suffer on account of there emphasis on story. Video games are also an inadequate delivery system for story telling, so the story suffers on that account. I would have no problem if Yoko Taros works where a novel. My issue is having to be forced to play woefully inadequate poorly made "games" to appreciate a good product (and yes Nier Automota is good) . Why do you exult yourself as "true fans" for eating shit when it would be better to just read a summary or ignore it all together?

then why are the majority of (you) people acting like SJW and not answering the question with any sense of integrity or in good faith? Why cry to the moderators when someone questions your hugbox? Do you actually think Holla Forums is a hive-mind? Do you actually demand people respect your opinions if you are not willing to defend them without being intellectually dishonest? If you said the Berserk Manga was good to appreciate a Berserk video game I would understand. But if you demand that someone must appreciate the Berserk Musou in order to be a true fan of the works of Kentaro Miura then I would tell you to jump off a cliff. "Good writing" does not excuse shitty game play and story is not a prime requisite for what constitutes a game, therefore story will forever be auxiliary no mater how much you complain to Mark. I hate to say it but Senran Kagura are better GAME's then what i've seen of Drakengard.

Because it's popular right now and Holla Forums is full of bandwagoning faggots.

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Is this going to be worth the bandwidth once it gets cracked?

There are 4 fucking threads up right now. How do I survive Truck Emil's 1 shot AoE attack?

Kill him before he lets it off. It takes forever to charge.

So I have to grind levels for more damage? I didn't even realize it was a timed fight.

What do you mean "may", the story exists, there is a set goal where you are a character that plays a role in the world. Even with open world games where most people fuck around in there are explicit points where you continue the story in those games. If not you would be wandering aimlessly in the world like minecraft.

Wrong, the quality suffered when SE decided to go full retard and make "RPGs for the wider audience" cinematic action games, or "MUH WAIFU" idolshit games instead of putting focus on the RPG part which is what the main audience wants.

I haven't played those games but doesn't SK have a story as well?

If you want to grind easily The robot statue in front of the amusement park is an enemy, you can hack him as 9S and kill him straight away and get fuck loads of exp

Nigga the game is shit, don't ask me how I know, I haven't played it or seen any gameplay, but I know it has to be shit.

Oh I forgot You need to hack him while controlling a machine and you need to get rid of all the surrounding machines first

Also, I've died to it three times now. The first two times it took awhile, so on my third try I decided to try hacking and it blew up way earlier

Recently accidentally found that out. Haven't done it yet though.

That will save me much confused frustration.

Pretty common imagery associated with bad guys tbh fam. Also they probably kept the same voice actor because he fit the role.

On another note, just beat the first ending. I feel bad for murdering the sexy beep boop boys.

Actually red eye is a thing in the Nier cannon to do with the WSC outbreak in Shinjuku onwards.

He just misses his brother

When I use the machine brand weapons does the base attack actually change on the weapon details? Will I have any indication of when it's maxed, or do I have to count manually to 500 in order to be sure? Which weapons benefit the most from this?

Does that apply to the robots?

I meant all three tbh.

I'm not asking moderators to get rid of your shit opinions, nor for anyone to respect my opinions, all you are doing is attacking anyone who likes the story in the games, as noted in your first post:
I haven't seen someone say they are reporting you, so if you direct me to the post saying such a thing, that would be the first kind and productive thing you have done in this thread.

and you wonder why I assume some of you are SJWs?

I mean that with those examples, the story is not necessary for the games to be fun. Final Fantasy on NES is still fun despite its story and the Mechanics of Planescape torment are based on Advanced Dungeons & Dragons 2nd Edition rules in the infinity engine. The mechanics of AD&D2nd E are solid and can accompany any story module or a Creative DM could use those tools to improve their own events that felicitate the fun mechanics. Where as if I am to believe these screenshots the argument is as fallows, that Drakengards mechanics are shit because they are supposed to be intolerable because and the fans are effeminate nihilist sadomasochist who to feel like they are being raped. It does not sound like a good selling point for any game.
Yes and a focus on story telling in video games is "cinematic" and a way to bring in a female/casual audience. Are you trying to defend Jennifer Hepler? A good game does not need any story. The story is just frosting on the cake.
this it the thing that I think is triggering anons. They don't understand that I am not saying games should not have a story, but that story alone is not a selling point. More importantly, if what everyone says is to be true (and what was reiterated in ) is that the gameplay mechanics of the earlier games are frustrating, clunky and poorly implemented. Core Game Mechanics > Story, therefore story can compliment the other but Story cannot take the place of the Mechanics. In my assessment Bad Mechanics then the game goes into the trash, story be damned. The author should have written a novel. Thankfully Nier Automota has good gameplay mechanics to carry its convoluted story, the backlog of poorly designed games just seems to be an unnecessary burden dragging down a otherwise excellent game.

nice strawman, how about you read a few of my other post that explain my position instead of doubling down on the "I'm not a SJW and Mentally ill Transsexual". I've been saying for years that story in video games was a mistake. It wasn't just a funny meme. I honestly mean it. Now please stop being so easily offended by words on the internet and try to argue in good faith fam.

final fantasy and planescape would be utter shit without any story because the gameplay sucks 5 inch nigger dicks

but that is not true. Do you really think people cared about the story in FF on NES? Moreover, as I already pointed out AD&D2E is the mechanics, people play AD&D2E without the writing of Chris Avellone. In fact Chris Avellone has been cancer to every single video game he touched. If you honestly think Planescape was good because of the writing then you are operating in a fantasy land divorced from reality.

The NES ones were basic but what about the SNES ones, PS ones, and the PS2 ones?

I would like to hear an explanation on why the writing in Planescape is shit?

is there a place i can read lore of nier or whatever it is i need to know before i play automata?

yes?

you realize the roleplaying and story are important in rpgs (tabletop and computer), not the shitty combat/leveling mechanics?

were you a lil bullied bitchboy in school or why do you act like the biggest supervirgin on Holla Forums?

This guy does a pretty good summary.
youtube.com/watch?v=EnwEbOHo7Aw&index=1&list=PLI1L9JVl6TFdwfvKUuebNp_zOAL5XXDT5

My base attack is definitely increasing. The question is, does the max 500 mean 500 enemies or 500 more attack than the base? If it's the latter, that would make the machine weapons one of the strongest set in the game, not counting low or max health bonuses from the cruel and virtuous sets.\.

they had good core mechanics. The story was not the only reason to play Final Fantasy.
Final Fantasy 10 was garbage. More importantly the story was Garbage as well. You are not really helping your case.
I would rather hear your explanation why other infinity engine games and other AD&D titles where so popular if not for the game engine and core mechanics. If story is so important to these games then why are other games with the same mechanics just as popular. It would seem that story alone is not integral to what make these products entertaining being that the mechanics more or less stayed the same while the narrative was interchangeable. Even Never winter Nights expanded on this idea by making it into something where players could create their own custom story modules. Or look at Shadowrun Returns, the developers thought if they created author tools that custom modules would sell the product. But the core engine behind Shadowrun Returns was garbage so the game was a peace of shit.

You realize I used to be a Dungeon Master and understand RPGs better then you might first assume. You also realize that RPGs are not dictated by an Author but are interactive experiences that takes a party of creative people to play. You realize that having friends and using the tools are necessary and if your friends are boring people that no amount of good storytelling can make that session fun. That if it was merely a game of Improvisational storytelling then the RPG would have no foundation and you might as well just be playing make believe. Games have win conditions and rule sets, without rules its not a game. The strawman that I am against good stories is absurd. The framework for the game must exist first. If the game is merely an afterthought to facilitate a story then their are better mediums to tell a story. My argument is as fallows, why play a admittedly shitty game for a convoluted story when you could instead play a good video game with little or no story, or a great video game with both? Drakengard is by everyone's admission a clunky peace of shit. If people had said the gameplay was solid I wouldn't even have asked the question to begin with but it seems to be a consensus that Yoko Taro's games are frustrating garbage in terms of core mechanics and the only redeeming quality is how "t3h CrAzy, c0nvoLUtEd & RaNd0m" his nihilistic story is. If the story is the only redeeming quality, then why PLAY the games? Why not just read a summary, watch it on jewtube or a novel or ignore it all together?

one of the strongest set
The strongest set

Fucking nobody is saying that, ignoring it won't make it go away
also

ignore id change
How did I make a strawman? All I did was call you out for attacking people who like Yoko Taro's stories and stories in video games in general. And I like how you ignored the last bit about requesting where somebody said they were going to report you.
I shall now follow advice and give you your final (((you))).

and here I thought my ip changed.

I admit that I asked questions when you tumblr faggots started shilling your shitty RPG. Same sort of questions I am asking here. You tumblrtale faggots got triggered so I decided to ignore you. Same brand of "Listen and Believe" bad faith argumentation. If (you) are representative of the Yoko Taro fan base, then I think its safe to say that Yoko Taro fans have the potential to be as cancerous as Tumblrtales or My Little Pony.

but I didn't change my ID
I did not attack people who like stories in video games. I just made a generalization about the fanbase and it seems to be true considering how upset a simple question had made you. I attacked the idea that a good story does not make a shitty game good. Everyone admits that Drakengard is shit in terms of gameplay. Why Play shit just because it has chocolate chips sprinkled on top?
Oh you mean the fact that I was banned for rule 8.
Rule 8 = Marks catch all rule for people in the thread had their jimmies rustled and now I have to deal with poopy diapers.

See a problem?
Nobody is saying listen and fucking believe, just try for yourself and see what the fuck people are talking about.
If you don't like the game, then leave, you're not adding anything to the discussion but political derailment.
One of the major reasons NieR is such a well liked game is because of the variance in game play, there's side scrolling, top down baldur's gate game play, and other fun things to do. Hell, it even becomes a text based adventure at one point. But it looks bad in pictures and video so it must be bad, right?
Am I getting your argument right user?
Are you going to disregard most of this post user?
Like you've been doing this entire time user?
Have I saved the website from you spamming Fuck off nierblr for 5 months straight user?
No, no I haven't because no matter what anyone says, they're always the victor of their own argument when nobody knows who is who. I'm only representing myself, just as you represent yourself.

>8ch.net/bans.html

welcome to Holla Forums
where lime hates everyone here
good job on just now fucking learning that

the problem is you lack of being able to communicate your idea son.
dude "listen and belive" mean accept a proposition on blind faith. People are infarct expecting others to assume that they are right and I am wrong on faith alone.
But I never said that. Why do you demand this is a Hug box? I like Nier Automata. I am talking about the previous games from the Author. Just asking why anyone in their right mind would eat shit with sprinkles on it? Let me explain this again. If the game play is shit, and the writing is sprinkles then no amount of sprinkles would justify eating shit.

THEN SOMEONE CRIED TO THE VOLUNTEER
but you have a point I guess

user you don't fit in yet. At least post 2B lewds if you are going to shitpost. I mean, come on lets be honest people 2B's ass and good gamepaly is what is selling this game, not t3h CrAzy, c0nvoLUtEd & RaNd0m writing of Yoko Taro‎.

this shit confusin

So you gonna spam every thread on Holla Forums until every mention of nier gets bumplocked?
We doing this again?

see pic related
you should listen to this user

The point I'm making is you weren't banned because of your opinions about Nier/Drakengard/stories/Yoko Taro/futa/whatever, and certainly not by Mark, as you so claimed. You either shitposted about Al Gore making the internet or something or avatarfagged. I accuse you of lying about being banned.

Looks like it.

So, compared to overwatch, where would you say this game is compared to it?

Okay, what the fuck is up with the damned Emil bosses sidequest? Don't tell me I have to do both fights with fucking 9S. I have made the trip down to Emil's house a dozen fucking times now. Do you have to go directly to Truck Emil, then the desert, while still playing as 9S? That's fucking retarded if so. I don't want to fight the hardest boss in the game with 9S's shitty fucking moveset. I'm already pissed enough that you have to do it for the part first of the quest. Please tell me I can at least summon Truck Emil in debug mode.

You can fight the second Emil boss as anyone

noice, this looks like just what I need user

I suggest you be about level 65 and hack him as 9S.

I switched to 2B because I thought the second fight was already unlocked. It wasn't, so I looked it up, and it said I needed to talk to him after beating the first one to be able to access the second one. I went to talk to him, and now he acts like we just met again. Does this not mean I have to do all that back and forth bullshit again? This is retarded. The first fight should have been an official sidequest, just without a map marker, so that when you're done, you don't lose all your damn progress when you switch characters.

While I'm complaining about things I'd like changed. Normal needs to be harder, and hard needs to be easier, as most of the time it's in practice equivalent to playing on very hard. I would have made the first ending cut off when 2B kills 9S, before the machines begin blinking. That way there would at least be some difference between the two instead of getting the exact same ending while waiting for what you believe is going to be some inevitable twist that never comes.

Already Lv 99 mate, and hacking is no fun.

are you crazy? This is the only Nier thread I've posted in.

As someone who only played a bit of Drakengard 2 at a friend's house, this is mindblowing. Still, there's plenty of things that are still grabbing my interest, writing-wise. What you're describing is less the main dish and more seasoning, if that was worded right? I may not know the full story but what's there is already blowing my mind. Pascal is gonna get killed, isn't he? God it's that or he's a traitor and I don't know what's worse.
I gotta say though, thanks for mentioning the sun never setting. An NPC mentioned that and I was expecting this to be foreshadowing to a Blood Moon-tier transformation of the world.

well
here's to hoping the filter button doesn't fucking break again

If you want to be spoiled on Pascal The village gets attacked by robots that are infected with a virus that makes them like zombies so Pascal moves the child robots to safety at the factory. They're attacked again but while Pascal and you are fighting the robots outside it turns out the children killed themselves out of fear. Pascal blames himself for teaching them about fear and asks you to either wipe his memories or just kill him because he can't live with the pain and guilt.

It's got a lot of bullshit in it, but I found it had a lot of lore about the world which made the game interesting and wanted me to continue on with the story and see how it would conclude. Having a good story in an RPG is essential. I hated FFX-2 because the story was shit, and I refuse to buy FFXV after hearing how square butchered it. I think the moment a person puts a story in their games and claims it's an RPG, the story becomes essential; It becomes a weak product if you have an RPG and the devs and publishers go "who cares", and barely tries with the story.

I would simply say its because of the story being good.

I would presume IE is a good engine that is able to implement D&D roleplaying. Also most IE games were made by black Isle, and had the same audience that liked RPGs or that style of gameplay.

I would say that story is what made them the great and notable games that they are today but you would disagree. Also not every character had the same role, they would be different depending on the story. Look at planescape torment where you would rarely fight, while in icewindale you would fight most of the time. I would also say since the IE was aimed at one type of gameplay style, what differentiated each one was the story itself, making it an essential part.

Which shows a need for a story in your RPG, a role to play.

I wouldn't know about the new Shadowrun games, I haven't played them or the old shadowrun games.

People who like videogames are just gonna want to play the video game themselves. The people here on Holla Forums like video games and play them, for the story , for gameplay, for the music, for jacking off, etc. . People are saying that this game is worth it for the story and everything else in the game compliments that making it a great experience and you just disagree on a fundamental level. I don't think any amount of discussion is gonna change your mind.

Also what do you think about deadly premonition?

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okay just finished watching clemps' videos on nier. is ps3/360 emulation any good?

NO I DON'T WANT TO CHANGE YOUR COMBAT SETTINGS I WANT TO OPEN THIS FUCKING BOX

Is it cheesing to rely on pod shoot/blast as much as I do?

I only saw one easteregg hologram near the beginning of route C.

PS3 emulation is getting better, there was a video that showed Demon's Souls being played on an emulator, though there was still some problems.

Holy fuck, there's no way to spare him?
My day is legitimately ruined, but no regrets reading that, though. I honestly have depressive episodes when a character I like betrays me and this was murder on the nerves. No, seriously, I'm so awful with betrayal that I once missed a day of school because of Baten Kaitos. I was a strange child.

How is the artbook for the game? Any short stories/extras like Grimoire Nier or just art?

Nier: Automata is a great game user. Pay attention to what is being said before you start sperging out.

wew
that is just sidestepping the argument. The game engine (Program) and game mechanics (rule-sets) are what I am saying is paramount for any game even an RPG. Role Playing Games are defined by the rule-set, if there is not ruleset then its not a Game and just Role Playing which is just costume parties or shallow make believe that any moron could do. What set RPG's apart form playing dress up is its very nerdy mathematical mechanical sophistication to attempt to simulate the rules of the world the player inhabits. This is why Girls traditionally did not play DnD because it involved a very height rational intellectual barrier to entry that naturally prohibited casuals for enjoying the hobby. To devalue the core rules so that more low IQ normalfags who partake is to devalue what made the game appealing.
What is "them"? Stories interchangeable yet the mechanics still are essential. Therefore you are incorrect. I am not debating weather you liked or disliked the story. I am saying that stories are non essential to what makes something a game. You can have a blue ball or a red ball, you may have a preference for the color blue but the color is not essential to what makes these two objects Balls. Do you like playing with balls user?
now you bring me to another point that pertains to the point of the colored balls. You are conflating "dress up" with what constitutes a game. As I already explained you don't need a rule set to pretend to be a fictional character. Dressing like a woman does not make you a woman, likewise role playing does not make it a RPG. The Game component is essential to the formal and its those who have been trying to undermine the GAME aspect to the RPG that in my opinion have been a cancer to the genre.
but I am saying that they are ether categorically wrong, or are lying about the adequacy of the mechanics of the game. If it is to be assumed the core mechanics are garbage as people claim, then their is more optimal ways to consume the story. Ether with a novel or a summary or any other method. I am merely asking why one must PLAY the game if the mechanics are in fact shit as assumed based on people's testimony.
I don't think anything of it. In fact I needed to google it. Open world survival horror sound like shit. but it might be fun, who knows Why would you ask?

more 2B lewds pls.

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formula*

Here you go!

I see your point, not all games need a story but video games as a medium can incorporate text as well as audio and visual, and some games, Like RPGs, will incorporate that. If you have an RPG, as claimed by a developer, then it's most likely going to have a story in it. Why are you fustrated that Nier Automata has a story in it when it would be well known in advance that it would have a story in it?

The Drakenguard has only been improving in that area and it does incorporate story well into the gameplay; you feel like a souless monster cutting down thousands of enemies, you see all the work you've been go nowhere which compliments the depressing story, the choices you make and the items you collect can change the outcome of the story. People play these games to experience that. If taro would rather make the books than the games then sure the story part is cancer; Until then I question why you would buy and RPG game, come in a thread about it, and then complain it has a story in it. Is there another game you had in mind when coming up with this?

consume the media as it was intended, through the videogame format

I ask because that game is similar in nature where the gameplay is weak but the story and other aspects around the game make it a great experience.

on an unrelated note how come i can get off to ara and i can get off to traps but futa does nothing for me

The moral choices is handle like half life 2. Theres no dialog wheel, you make your choice with your action. you can reset his memory which make him a vendor that sell the body part of the vilager to you, you can kill him or you can just walk away.

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Nier pc port, when?

Isn't it out on the 17th?

Youtube's made it ez mode for casuals to pick up the game.

Why are you people responding to this autistic bater instead of filtering him?

if the game is presented made well you can enjoy the story as it is without needing to know all that stuff.

is the strange resistance women wearing that head supposed to be yoko taro talking to the player? I really like how they emphasize that there is no auto save since so many games have auto save now

Reminder that nu-Nier/Drakengard fanbase will be like ed802f.

Because I'm playing from the perspective of 2B and she doesn't know any of that shit.

It's like going into The Witcher 1 without having read the books, it doesn't matter because Geralt has amnesia. I did read the books though.

But MUH CINEMATIC EXPERIENCE!

it was just announced canceled, there's been a mailing campaign to SE since last night.

Do the reset chips that have an xx% chance to keep you alive with xx% health work on very hard? I've never once had them work. What does the revival % chance stacking max at?

>playing as A2 with taunt chips installed
I'M BURNIN UP

Did we read the same post? He was suggesting watching a let's play instead of playing the damned game.

Has anyone gotten the final ending solo? Is there a video of it? I want to see it done.

Also isn't the final ending unsustainable? If each player that wins and sacrifices loses 2 or more other players' data, the number of helpful data would continue to decrease until no one is left to help, ergo they are either not truly deleted or the numbers are padded with fake players. Either way, that makes your sacrifice meaningless. Thus, you're all fooling yourselves if you think getting the final ending is in any way special. That is, aside from having to sacrifice your data to truly complete the game. This makes it equivalent to Nier, does it not?

so i went back to the area with the boss fight int he desert and enemies just seem to endlessly respawn here, any particular reason other than grinding or something?

i also learned that taunt chips + beserk + deadly heal is a hilariously broken combination

I'm going for it since no online, expect mp4 posted from mobile/vid.me embed if I get it

Yoko Taro is a hack
I don't know why Holla Forums has a boner over Suda 51 Square Enix version

So are there any quests that aren't interesting or worth doing? While what you do often seems standard mechanically, I can't recall a single quest that either wasn't interesting, or didn't give a good reward.

That is the best place to farm pristine screws late game. There's one other infinite respawn area that is the best place in the game to farm large gears. It's at the place where you kill Adam.

so it is just a grinding area, thanks for the info. i was fighting there for like half an hour wondering if there was gonna be a trick

Like YoRHa, it's an illusion to provide you with the motivation needed to keep going. Even if you ignore the sustainability, the first player to reach the ending sequence would not be able to beat it in order to sacrifice their data to assist the second player. Unless they had fake players to help them out.

All of the side quests were boring to me they lacked any interest at all this game is essentially the skyrim of yokos games

>just encountered the secret level 99 emil
oh my christ is that even beatable

Get a plug-in chip that slow down time and auto use item. Get shock wave plug in to turn your melee into range attack. You can slice the projectile instead of dodging them.

Because waifufaggots jumping on a hype bandwagon. Anyone that hasn't played drakengard before automata should be hanged tbh

i'll give it a shot another time then

There's probably all kinds of lore embedded in the fourth wall breaking. At the end of the first Drakengard, Caim and Angelus go to the real world, and Angelus asks if it's the land of the gods. The gods are the ones who created the Watchers and the DOD world, so in an out-of-universe sense, the DOD/Nier community would be the gods, since the devs created the games and the players provided the impetus for their creation. YoRHa's motto, "Glory to Mankind", supports this by giving humanity a godlike level of reverence from the androids, since humans created them both in and out-of-universe. The battle at the end of Automata is effectively a battle between two sets of gods, with an illusion provided by the devs to make the players destroy themselves meaninglessly, as YoRHa does. And, just as the YoRHa units were built from biomachine cores, and both the YoRHas and the biomachines have human traits, the two sets of gods are related because both groups are made up of humans. DOD and Nier are similarly related. There's a lot of evidence linking the biomachines to the Watchers, so any entity that knows about the Watchers and isn't with them may want something to get rid of their agents. Project YoRHa could have been created partially for this purpose as well as boosting android morale, but the only one we know of in Automata who knows about the Watchers is Accord, who when we last saw her in DOD3 was searching for timelines where the threat of the Watchers had been stamped out, using her special phone to help Zero, and addressing the players directly. She also supplies vendors in Automata with weapons that can be sold to the player, acting in accord with the players' will both in-universe and out-of-universe by facilitating a war between the machines that mimics the war between the Replicants and Gestalts, which happened because of the war between the Empire and the Union where the Imperial soldiers were being controlled like machines, which are all ultimately wars between the devs and the players where the devs send the players enemies to kill, because that's the only way Yoko Taro can get the budget to make a AAA game.

So why is all this happening? Well, much like real armed conflict, it's an exercise in futility where people who are only interested in their own personal profit send people who have a lot in common to kill each other in pointless wars. Even when there isn't an official shooting war happening, people constantly try to one-up each other in the rat race to get ahead socially and economically. That's what ending E is all about. Playing the entire series and fighting in all these contrived wars is something that you do when you could be living a real life instead. Since it's doubtful that enough people actually beat ending E on their own to even offer their data to begin with, it's highly probable that the data from other players is fake, and therefore when you give up your save data, you're effectively sacrificing yourself to the game for no reason - which is what you were doing by playing it in the first place, and what you're forcing the characters to do by fighting for you. In the DOD/Nier series, and most major video games, you the player are deriving enjoyment from the characters in the game world suffering and dying, and it's just as futile for you as it is for them. In-universe, the world gets fucked by apocalyptic magic and hyper-advanced technology while the player characters risk their lives and do retarded sidequests that sometimes leave them worse off than they started. Out-of-universe, your life is fucked, partly because you spend so damn much time playing video games, making up autistic theories about them and reading other people's autistic theories about them, and partly because it's hard to even blame you for doing those things when society is utter trash.

That's what I'm saying. It's all fake and pointless. There's no reason to sacrifice unless you're a trophy fag. Best case scenario is that it's a mix of real and fake players, such that as long as there is real player data, that is used first and then permanently deleted.

This is so many fucking levels of meta I think I'm going to forget about it and just look at more Kainé porn.

That's some of the shittiest writing i've ever heard off, literally fanfiction tier. Glad that i didn't play that shit.

But that's gay

Astute observation.

If you actually read all that, you proved my point.

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8/v/ has Overwatch threads which are basically stickied, and you worry about Yoko Taro building convoluted storylines?

If everyone else in the world was Kaine would you?

So how critical is it to play the original Nier to understand the plot of Automata?

Oh boy even Asanagi is getting on the 2B hype train and you know what that means.

I don't know much, but there are, at least, three characters that were in the first game that appear in Automata and Kainé is referenced.

That ain't a QUICK rundown.

Also, what's with Holla Forums's obsession with this game?

It was made by muh based jap who aint afraid of no sjw and has waifufaggotry so duh.

i don't consider myself a faggot but i want her to wear actual pants

it is breaking my immersion

What is there to be immersed in?

Looks totally meh tbh.

Was that image compiled by 12 year old?

The change is unwelcome, but her new character worked pretty well in the game.

I'm curious as to what game a person like yourself considers good. Just for reference.

Jedi Knight 2
Rune
Severance
M&B

Super Mario Brothers 2

Go back to 4chan.

Careful, you might trigger someone with such strong bait.

That juicy android ass.

A better question is

How are people even enjoying a Yoko Taro game? The man is a hack.

Where is kaine referenced? I must've missed that.
Also, the 2 androids technically aren't the same character as in Nier, but are you still including them in the 3?

It's a platinum game with a yoko taro story.

How many endings have you lads got? I'm at 7 now. The game is great.

Windwaker was my first and only Zelda aside from playing the very first one as a gameboy port without knowing any of the secrets so I basically didn't play it. I pretty much understood what was going on just from osmosis and the few questions about things like the splitting of the time lines I which I had a friend answer.

finish the lunar tear sidequest

What's with you fags' fixation on ass?

I've got a good handful of endings. Some of them blindsided me for hilarious results, like running away as 9S at the start of route B or ending J. The one where you murder the robot village is the saddest so far.

>>>Holla Forums

Taro threatened to fire people if the ass was not perfect, and so it was.

God mods are useless.

Does no one else realize that Adam and Eve are literally "oldfag" and "newfag" ?

ADAM: He born out of a logical wish to repel outsiders at a time when pair of outsiders threaten a tribe of autistic machines doing the equivalent of shitposting, that I dub thee junkposting, ultimately decide to gestalt themselves as one to face outsiders together. The moment he is born, he starts LEVELING UP just like all the controversies _Gates we they're participated and won like Saturday morning cartoons. Adam craves human knowledge on a search to rediscover the meaning of human nature, builds a city all by himself like we would used to be playing SimCity, and plays games all the time with Eve while trying to raise his little brother right.

EVE: Looks up to his thoughtful older brother who feeds him "fruits of knowledge," just like we dispense red-pills. Guys like him were on the sidelines cheering when it came to ____Gates. When he loses ADAM, EVE goes full "dehumanize yourself and face to bloodshed" on the defenseless dorks of "Le Resistance"

the hambeasts from /leftycuck/ are really asburned. Especially because of robot ass and bizzare storytelling from previous drakengard titles.

take your shitty catgirl comics and blacked posting back to reddit.

Holy fuck my dick.

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>Accord interfering in timelines again
>Eve has Cult Of The Watchers tattoo when he berserks
>Tower and Resource Gathering Units use angelic language and Cathedral-themed architecture
>Watchers are never mentioned and never show up, Accord is only mentioned once, and the story we get instead is mostly predictable twists and shallow character writing
Fuck me, I did like the game but I brutally disappointed.

There's no politics in this thread, unless you brought it with you. I haven't seen any threads there or here like that.

They came here because Reddit considers catgirls misogynistic. Wonder what they'd think of android catgirls.

[spoilers]Unless the aliens are Watchers, of course. Drakengard 3 showed us that they can look like many things.[/spoilers]

Those headache pills better kick in soon.

Now you're disappointing me too.

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Robot sex!

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Someone send this to Yoko Taro and watch him actually make a game called Creepy Robot Porn Simulator.

THAT ID!

Do not feed your (you)s to the trolls ironically acting like a newfag with ids. You will get cyber aids.

Got bad news for you

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Remember to practice your triple jump

I just approached from the right, fell down, swung my sword, and jumped up. Didn't even need mirage.

Its faster and flashier

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should I preorder this game for pc or wait until it drops in price to around 30 dollars and buy it later?

Wait for bugfixes and a denuvo crack, unless you want to give support to the dev.

I would. It seems like a genuinely good game. The main thing turning me off from even buying it though is Denuvo.

honestly who fucking cares. i just wanna play a good game

bless lad

Eating the mackrel was my favorite ending

For some people, knowing what makes the world tick leads to a greater enjoyment of the game. Why are you so triggered by worldbuilding?

gamepad or kb+m? How did you guys play metal revengeance? I played it, but forgot. I think it was with gamepad though

I bet you give (((localization))) a pass because it doesn't affect the gameplay with the exception of NISA.

Pre-load requires 46 GB of space, reports say actual filesize of the game amounts to 26 GB after decrypting.

Needs the text. Also needs the mole to be erased since the image was flipped.

steam always does that. whenever you install a game, it requires twice the amount of space the final game actually takes up.

Not true though.
Most of the game are compressed, so you actually have to download way less than the game actually takes up, and sometimes, pre-load are encrypted so takes heaven more space than the size of the released game.

So is no one ever going to talk about the shit ton of philosophical allusions and references all over the damn place? Taro includes some pretty obvious and, what is to me, some pretty obscure shit in the boss names alone.

Adam & Eve
Beauvoir
Marx
Engels
Immanuel
Ernst
Grun
Kierkegaard
Hegel
Boku-Shi
Ko-Shi
Ro-Shi
So-Shi
Friedrich
Auguste

Most of the boss names aren't revealed until the second play through. What does it mean that Marx is/are the arm(s) of Engels? Do Friedrich and Engels both refer to the same person? Why does Friedrich call Auguste his brother?

The game is is around 46GB for PS4 though

All notions of showing support fall out the window when DRM gets involved.

Does backing up saves with PSPlus really prevent full deletion?

nier has deepest lore

In the end, it's all one large theatrical play. When the masks fall, we wish to do nothing but dance until exhaustion. Then we are reminded about the play, put our masks back on and resume playing our roles in the cosmic play until the end of time.

What I'm wondering about is how well the PC port is done. I have a DS3, but I'd like good KB+M support as well (I still play all souls games on PC with KB+M, even after about 1000 gameplay hours combined), and I am wondering about the optimization and performance.

yes, nobody who cares about fun video games give a shit about ｌｏｒｅ. Only tumblr faggots care about that bullshit. DRM and developers not property compressing files so that the game takes up over 40gb is worse then shitty localization.
damn straight, when "localization" mean console-bricking/game-breaking bugs and content stripped out of the game then into the trash it goes.

Cause not everyone played the Drakengard(DOD) series? I was super interested in 3 but never got around to it, don't have my PS Triple with me so I can't play it or Nier rn. Also, thanks for brushing me up on the lore!

It's not unheard of to play the older games after and appreciate them both once you understand the big picture, I look forward to going through DOD and picking up on the things I'll remember from Automata.

Amazing, underrated post. I've only played Vanquish and MGR (two of my favorite games) and I never got this P* backlash. Their licensed titles didn't appeal to me and the whole Scalebound fiasco definitely seems to correlate with a quality drop.

As far as Automata goes, I'm not far at all, but it definitely feels like a Platinum title to me. The combat is fun and stylish and there's plenty of room to be skillful. I haven't gotten any other weapons, is switching on the fly a thing? If so, that will definitely add some depth I think.

Not just weapon switch but pod switch as well

A2 does that descending attack at 0:29

I still can't figure out how to do it.

Also I noticed that with the small sword/spear attacks sometimes they stick the spear into the ground. It's NOT the large sword/spear setup. But the small sword.

I've never been able to re create that but I've seen it twice while playing.

Every mid air heavy attack strike downward. Your weapon attack depend on button placement. If you want small sword to do heavy attack, put it in heavy attack slot. 9S can only do light attack so he got a very limited combo

Yeah, but the small sword descending attack is two hits, and straight down. Not one hit and diagonal like in the video.

Sweetness. The simplicity complaints are baffling me a bit, I've always tried to be creative when playing a P* game cause if you're not, it certainly becomes less fun. I didn't even start falling in love with Vanquish till I started messing around with guns I didn't use on my first playthru.

Are new weapons/pods unlocked upon completion?

You get weapons from finding them in the world (from chests and in shrines), and through sidequests. As well as buying them from a few vendors.

You also get Pod Programs from sidequests, but some of them you'll have to find in some places you won't even think to look. But you have finish Endings A and B in order for them to spawn.

after talking with pascal they told me a Goliath machine was going to the resistance and i had to go there to save them but i wanted to go to the amusement park for a side quest and it said that 2b abandoned her mission and yohra will soon fail. the credits rolled but super fast and i got kicked back into the start screen and had to load my last save file

wtf is this shit i was in the dessert and now i have to walk all the way back!

Sometimes you can get a joke/non-canon ending if you abandon something that you have to do urgently.

Why do you abandon your mission? This ain't like your typical game where you take "an emergency" mission then messed around with side quests and come back 3 days later to do the main quest.

i have a question
i've read somewhere that if i'm a pirate i won't be able to get one of the endings
is that true?

it's not even released until this very moment. How could anyone know let a lone crack it already? You're naive and retarded

what is that stuff you get when you pray and retrieve someones body?

it's released on consoles, and the one i wouldn't be able to play (if it exists) probably relies on internet connection

so ye, not hard to pinpoint it

Try to follow up a perfect counter with heavy attack

Reminder that if you use lock-on at all during battles that your casual scum and you should probably just delete your save files.

It's doesn't need an internet connection to get any of the ending.

In mid-air? In the video at 0:29, she dodges on the ground, does the small sword counter that lifts the enemy into the air. Then I think she dodges back in mid air and then does the diagonal, downward attack (0:30). Huh, maybe it's dodge and attack at the same time in mid-air.

Its Japanese I think. So dont expect any of it to make even the slightest bit of sense.

Like their amines. No coherent storyline whatsoever. Just enjoy it as a fun show full of lights and scenery and characters. Dont expect them to act like real people or have any depth.

I just did

You say that like it's a bad thing.

Yep, just started up the game and tried it. Dodge and heavy attack in mid-air with a small sword on the heavy slot.

Damn, now I gotta try other weapons.

Using lock-on isn't fun at all. I think when playing on normal, the pod tends to auto-lock-on to enemies on occasion, making it not shoot in the direction I'm facing the screen. This is especially prevalent when I try to shoot downwards. Anyone else have this problem?

I think auto lock on is for easy mode only

No, not the plugin chip. I mean occasionally I will aim the camera to shoot somewhere else, but my pod seems focused on trying to kill some other enemy, usually one above me.

Do ya'll think lock-on potentially hampering combat was one of Yoko Taro's anachronistic design choices?

No

I don't think so.

I know he had a hand in messing with the combat bracer/heavy sword finisher, though.

I can only get that to work occasionally. Am I supposed to only do one light attack, then heavy? I want to end a combo with it.

It's percentage based. You won't hit the gauntlet with the sword all the time.

You mean pure RNG? What the fuck Taro, I just wanted a home run.

Yep, its RNG.

I love it but the RNG is the sole reason why I don't use the heavy sword/combat bracers combo.

I think I heard there was a way to vertically attack the gauntlet from above with the heavy equipped large sword as well. Any confirmation on this?

2B's ass and the fun gameplay courteously of Platinum games.

What do you guys think of the ability to cancel your attack with the dodge? It removes the capability for thew game to punish you for your actions, but it also allows them to send more enemy's towards you.

Also I'm not sure about the infinite dodge this game allows, Bayonetta's limited dodge cut out the spamming and cheesing Automta allows.

Furthermore the pod is a interesting mechanic that reminds me of weak infinite ammo pistol's in other action games with the downside of also allowing one to cheese the enemy.

I don't mind any of them, especially infinite dodge. They straight up said the game would be easy for people not familiar with Platinum's action games. I like that they were actually out front about that.

I haven't cheesed anything with the pod except some of those annoying flying enemies (the basic ones that back away from you when you get near, as well as the long snakelike ones), mostly because it feels like it takes too long.

I really hope they improve on it if they're making another. I think a lot more could've been done with the plug-in chip system. I thought for sure Taro was going to include that in the story, like making you have to remove your OS chip at a certain point.

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How do I get the Pearl Harbor Assualt archives? I was told you get them by talking to Anemone as A2 late game. I did at the very latest point possible and got nothing.

When you need the fuel filter, go to the resistance camp and talk to Anemone. She tells you about Pascal.

Then talk to her again. She points out a computer under the tent that you have to use. That's how I got them.

danke

(wasted)
What about games that have well remembered stories like "Dude Sex: Gay of the Year edition"?

Completing the unit data is starting to piss me off. Anybody know where some of these enemies spawn? Desert Medium Flyer: Kamikaze, Enhanced Medium Flyer: Gunner x2 Kamikaze x2, Enhanced Reverse Jointed Goliath, Enhanced Small Sphere: Axe Equipped, Enhanced Linked-sphere Type: Drill Equipped, EMP Small Biped?