Criticizes jews in the media and politics for their lobbying for israel and it's imperialism/expose it

What? What happens in the Middle East. I can't decipher this, seriously.

And right wing american jews propagate it's support to israel piously.

Still, the creation of israel was made by the british empire, pretending it is just american doing is innocence.

Of course it is you tard because without America Israel wouldn't exist. You think the elite joos wouldn't sell out other Jews?

Imperialism faggot.

They were going to get around to being grateful eventually user. We just have to work through some more holocaust guilt first.

Motherfucker, where are you from? Can you talk in whole sentences in English please? Or is that above your speaking level?

Call it a strawman. The only people it's going to convince are rabid zionists and muh greatest ally fags. Other burgers won't be convinced and hilariously the anti-zionists are usually jews themselves so if you need to pull out the Finkelstein.

It's called containment and Israel who is paraded like a women in distress is often used as a further justification for our need to be in the middle east our "muh" allies would be swarmed with scimitars. They also want "independent" because they know it will get dumb x-tians on their side who think Jerusalem needs to be protected.

Your time is coming soon Anglophone.

Well we already did the "you break it, you buy it" with Iraq and Afghanistan, what more use do those Israeli fucks still hold?

Even the nuts trying to rebuild the temple to start Armageddon and the second coming must be getting tired of this shit even.

MOTHERFUCKER! WHY ARE YOU ON AN ENGLISH LANGUAGE BOARD THEN!

Point out that both the US and the EU have a lot of times expressed their desired intention for a two-state solution for Israel and Palestine. Not to mention that latest US veto at the UN when it came to the illegal Israeli expansion, which completely goes away with saying that the US are lackeys for Israel.

Yes AIPAC has still too much sway amongst the US politicians, but saying that Israel is behind every US foreign policy move is just as foolhardy and pointless as saying that Saudi Arabia gets its way with the US foreign instrument too.

The only conspiracy that should ever be considered heavily the General Motors streetcar conspiracy

The reign of the eternal anglo shall be destroyed soon. fam.

I'm not even Anglo. It's just the only language I know so far.

*Maybe part if we start going into 1/8ths and 1/16ths?

But then again maybe not Scottish and French and shit doesn't count as Anglo right?

You have to be both retarded and an antisemite to believe this

Israel absolutely does not fucking control the US or its foreign policy AT ALL

ignoring the thousands of drones and spy planes Israel uses for us and the hundreds of anti terror ops each year and the data on Jordan and egypt and lebanon

A few years ago America wanted war with Iran and before that they wanted to do a new "surge" again in Iraq. The main motive for both being oil speculators valuing the commodity low without a war in the middle east. Israel and Saudi Atabia wanted this desperately so they could see Iran and nations close to it further destabilized. America didn't end up going but it's still something they all want and Israel will play a part in it for sure.

Where's the paperwork on that? Or is it one of those "trust us, we're doing a lot of super secret spy shit for you, we'd tell you what it was but it's all classified!" kind of things?

We can beef with Iran without Israel. They're a whole US occupied country over. Besides Iran is on the fucking coast. We got 19 fucking carriers.

Why we do we need Israel? They're more of a liability than an asset.

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I don't really care if Israel exists as a country or not. I'm saying the US keeps them around because the military perceives them as being a valuable asset in middle eastern dominance. They would be one less ally against Russian and Chinese interests in the region if they didn't have them. Also they take a lot of the blame for things we do in "their" name. In a way the stupid "fight them over there" slogan bullshit was already happening but with Israel as the surrogate punching bag.

But how much easier would it be to make and keep Muslim allies if we let them go?

Considering Muslims do make up the majority of the population in the region and all…

probably in wikileaks or classified. I wouldn't know I don't live in Israel or communicate with spooks. I know that Mossad-CIA-MI6-BND are tight and they share everything about each other with each other. Making Israel just another organ of the intelligence complex in the west.

Why don't you fuck off faggot

We really shouldn't be focusing on Israel at all. Same thing with Saudi Arabia. Its irrelevant. So is China and Russia. All that matters is getting rid of porky in the West and stopping our state sponsored terrorism. That's it. What they do does not matter. If we oust porky, it will spiral into other nations like Saudi Arabia and Israel. And if we're going to worry about MENA regimes, SA and Iran ARE the biggest problems. Iran is a threat to security in the region they've contributed to two bloody civil wars. Israel has not. Egypt is a literal police state. Turkey is a police state committing ethnic cleansing and protracted genocide. This fetish for Israel seems to stem exclusively from rabid antisemitism which is very real on the left and the right. Again WHY should we cut off israel or give a fuck what they do? We can wipe them out or ignore them at will.

So basically you're just pulling shit out your ass.

You got me bruh!

timesofisrael.com/israel-us-to-sign-accord-to-share-information-on-cyber-threats/

here you go there's literally dozens of these agreements they share basically everything they record with us. The CIA also spies on Israel a shit ton, don't believe me go look up "CIA spy plane israel photos"

I am not humoring you because the only people on this board who are super butthurt about Israel are Holla Forumslacks who are trolling OR Muslims who are not our allies as theocrats can never be leftists ever

You're a stupid faggot. Why would we care about Israel if our goal on here is class consciousness and achieving a left wing revival/revolution in the West.

Arabs are not socialists, they don't want socialism, they have never ever actually tried to be socialists. They have been Nazbols, Turd Positionists, Monarchists, Fascists, Soc Dems, Dem Soc's but never actually socialist EVER!

Because they can't be, because all their wealth is from Oil and from weapons and from raw materials that they sell to porky in the west. So why the fuck would we want them as allies? Why does it matter? If they really are socialist they would not be hell bent on exterminating jews and christians because they would be too busy denouncing Islam and their leaders like the House of Saud or the Qatari royal family or Sisi or a million other despots and warlords in MENA

What is the big deal about Israel honestly? Do you think they control foreign policy? you really think a bunch of smart Germanics and WASP's who hang out with some jews who are more than wealthy enough to stand on their own are controlled by a very small number of billionaires? Seriously? What is the motive, why should we fucking care? Hamas? They're fucking islamo-fascists. Hezbollah? Same fucking deal and Iran is not a socialist country so they're a complete dead end. The Kurds don't give a fuck about Israel, i'm sure they want them gone but mostly because they're anti-imperialist and muzzies

So what is your motive user? Seems like its posting like someone form Holla Forums

OF COURSE israel is beneficial, they have gas pipelines, they do R&D for Intel and Boeing, they ship millions of pounds of raw materials to the west every year. They buy billions in weapons from us and the West.

Now if you mean not beneficial to a leftist government NO SHIT. But neither is porky Germany or Turkey, or Egypt, or Iran or a million other dysfunctional evil states that exist.

So again what is the fucking fixation on Israel other than MUH JEWISH ZIONIST CONSPIRACY? If that's the case, fuck off faggot this isn't a board for you

haaretz.com/israel-news/1.757541

Here's more shit. Remember how I said British Intel is part of 5 eyes/7 eyes and how they all spy on each other and are in disagreement and do not control each other at all? Yeah this has happened before, the CIA have been caught spying on Israeli leaders before. Why would they do that if they were controlled? They're not. Israel is a fucking client state that occasionally does its own thing like during the cold war and with USS Liberty. They piss off America and UK all the time. You think Iran will be more loyal really? Because they're already building intercontinental ballistic missiles even though we fucking told them not to. None of these states should be our allies. NONE OF THEM, including the muzzie states. We are in no need of any more allies. We are fucking fine. We should just not be involved in MENA politics at all. And again why not talk about Saudi Arabia and Qatar and Yemen and Egypt and Jordan and Syria and Iran and all these other fucked up countries that do the same exact shit destabilizing the region. Israel didn't give a fuck about Iran until an Islamic theocracy was established. If Mexico was explicitly anti-america and said they wanted to wipe us off the face of the earth and armed militias in canada to attack us, we would resent them a lot like israel does Iran. There is no reason to take sides in this issue. We should cut ALL of them off. We should get rid of the CIA and stop talking with the Mossad, we should stop trading with Israel and the rest of MENA as they have nothing other than oil and heavy metals to offer us. Arabs are not super cool POC that love socialism they're tribalistic fucking theocrats. If anything the Kurds, Jews and Egyptians are the only ones who show any socialist inclinations at all

Unless you are a Holla Forumslack who doesn't give a fuck about leftist politics and you just hate Israel like the rest of Holla Forums in which case fuck off faggot like i said. No one else here but muslims, black people and fucking gigantic anti-semites spergs about israel

not him but

Just like I said in the OP, someone critisize israel and you sperg up with "do you think israel literally control foreign policy" and "you are le Holla Forums".

And you call arabs "tribalistic theocrats" while you throw a persecuted shitfit defending israel pretending nobody blames other countries and that people are fixated hating it.

How about we start opening a new discussion thread about Israel every day. It's a country of a few million people. Nobody seems this eager to discuss Syria for example. The accusations of anti-semitism are not without merit.

It's a made up controversial country associated and dependent in western countries that have it as a top foreign policy issue to be discussed and Muslim countries that have to worry about it.

Fuck off.

Why do sort Israel neutral and pro Israel posters here always assume that we don't care about the Gulf Monarchies too? Most anti Zionists including myself hate those countries just as much. Its not like the KSA and Israel have opposed interests either despite the "official" opposition they have to each other.

I still wouldn't mind if they were taught a lesson and be puted in their place. Other than that i really don't give a fuck about Israel and they can exist.

Iran a threat? kek, fucking hell. You can throw that over to the pile of irrelavancy.
Saudi Arabia are the really threat of the region. Saudi Arabia, UAE and Qatar. The porky monarch muslims. Utter cancer. USA friends of course.
Saudi Arabia is by far the worst. Fucking executions is public for adultery and apostasy. Meanwhile their dear royal family spends their time in fucking London/Paris at expensive hotels fucking escorts and drinking booze.

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Anti Israel protest: 800ish people.

Anything against anything Saudi Arabia, Turkey, pro-Rojava… like a dozen people.

There's a reason why people who are neutral (or even pro, if there's any here?) on Israel believe that segments of the left are anti-semitic, and they're not doing anything to counter that perception.

Turkey and SA also don't inspire cult like devotion(outside of said countries) like Israel with Evangelicals and cuckservatives.

This.

Not just in the US, in my country Jews go into evangelical churches shilling for Israel and demonizing Muslims.

Dont be a political infant, debate them.

The truth is on your side wear it like armor

That must be why they're training and arming Christian militias in Qalamoun.

In my country there are no Jews left. We have killed them all. So the fight for the Palestinian cause can go unhampered.

we are an American proxy, and everyone knows it here.

t. Israeli

"but I am not antisemitic guys I swear"

Underrated

Easy. Many jews are wealthy and/or powerful. for many of them this jewish nationalist agenda is in their interests to promote. Many jews aren't so influential while many other people who aren't jews are influential. Where Holla Forums sees powerful jews and claims race and magic are the driving forces of history, we look at the powerful jews and claim that wealth and political influence are the drivers of history, but disproportionally large number of jews have had such influence at times for historical and non-magical reasons (the jews in Europe particularly valued education, were able to monopolize the lucrative banking industry early on because of anti-usury laws, etc.)

'Anti-semitic' is passe.

The terms "anti-Semite" or "antisemitism" came by a circuitous route to refer more narrowly to anyone who was hostile or discriminatory towards Jews in particular.[15]

Anthropologists of the 19th century such as Ernest Renan readily aligned linguistic groupings with ethnicity and culture, appealing to anecdote, science and folklore in their efforts to define racial character. Moritz Steinschneider, in his periodical of Jewish letters Hamaskir (3 (Berlin 1860), 16), discusses an article by Heymann Steinthal[16] criticising Renan's article "New Considerations on the General Character of the Semitic Peoples, In Particular Their Tendency to Monotheism".[17] Renan had acknowledged the importance of the ancient civilisations of Mesopotamia, Israel etc. but called the Semitic races inferior to the Aryan for their monotheism, which he held to arise from their supposed lustful, violent, unscrupulous and selfish racial instincts. Steinthal summed up these predispositions as "Semitism", and so Steinschneider characterised Renan's ideas as "anti-Semitic prejudice".[18]

In 1879 the German journalist Wilhelm Marr, in a pamphlet called Der Weg zum Siege des Germanenthums über das Judenthum ("The Way to Victory of Germanicism over Judaism"), began the politicisation of the term by speaking of a struggle between Jews and Germans. He accused them of being liberals, a people without roots who had Judaized Germans beyond salvation. In 1879 Marr's adherents founded the "League for Anti-Semitism"[19] which concerned itself entirely with anti-Jewish political action.

Objections to the usage of the term, such as the obsolete nature of the term Semitic as a racial term and the exclusion of discrimination against non-Jewish Semitic peoples, have been raised since at least the 1930s

wikiwand.com/en/Semitic_people

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meant

And the light-bulb conspiracy.

Just because the Saudi's are robbing us blind doesn't mean the Israelis aren't. And it is a conspiracy because our lawmakers shouldn't be serving foreign powers. That's treason.

And the Powell Memorandum.

And the Commission on Presidential Debates.