You can't bring jobs back, they said. Globalization is inevitable, they said

You can't bring jobs back, they said. Globalization is inevitable, they said.

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The only country that can afford doing this is the USA.

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sounds like a recipe for success m8, better to be unemployed with you're commodities being made in china on the cheap than employed in an economy where manufacturing has relocated to america

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Funny how right wingers can go from freemarkets to protectionism at a whim

Am I a shitty lefty if I believe that people shouldn't bother with global change just yet? I think it's much harder to facilitate worldwide change than local change.
Shit, I don't even buy from global/national brands if I can help it. There are only so many local businesses in suburban Dallas, but I'd rather my money help them than Wal-Mart or Target. Yes I know they aren't inherently better for being local but at least the exploitation is relatively minimized

They can't. It's like when SocDems do it, you're working against the natural logic of capital.

It's because they have no idea how economics works
Almost every right-wing economics book says that international trade is excellent because of the lower opportunity cost, but since hating neoliberalism is the hottest new craze after NAFTA, rightists will just now ignore capitalism's only way of survival in the US

The only problem is that the world market won't be able to absorb all the Chinese goods that previously went to amerifats esp. in the short-term.

The only thing they care about is class power

If you want that shit, you can have it.

CRASHING THIS PLANET

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and the rest of the world will follow as usual

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Uh, weren't we supposed to be in socialism like a century ago, according to Marx?

no

Fixed that for you.
It wasn't even their lowest point this year and the year is less than a week old.

Wages typically form a very small proportion of the total costs of goods.

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Maybe that is because wages are so low where these goods are made but if they are forced to be made in the us proportion will rise greatly

Gee its almost like Capitalism is required before Socialism and any revolution that does not follow this is doomed to fail whoda thunk

Gee, it's almost as if the tensions between the working and capitalist classes were mysteriously ameliorated contrary to Marxist doctrine in the advanced industrial nations, and the only nations with successful revolutions based on (ostensibly) Marxist principles were backwards, undeveloped, agrarian ones.

Urban workers were "supposed" to start the revolution, not peasants

If you think the tensions between the proletariat and bourgeois has been ameliorated and mysteriously at that you are blind

Except Marx did think there could be a revolution in Russia and that it could blossom into communism provided it happen alongside revolutions in the west. Read Communist manifesto Preface to the edition of 1877. Kill yourself, also what happen in Western countries is completely compatible with the immiseration theory, in places where the state is not heavily involved in industry, wealth inequality is high.

The price of goods may rise but it would still be a net benefit to the U.S. working class.

How is it a net benefit prices go up and wages stay the same if not go down

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If this were true why would these countries be struggling with unemployment and shrinking levels of wealth while the biggest business owners are making more money than anyone can possibly imagine?

Tensions between the classes are much, much lower than they were in Marx's time. Marx would be flabbergasted at the "apathy" of the modern worker, given that he lived through a period of tumult and revolution

You're not really disproving my point that it was the advanced industrial nations that were supposed to fall to revolution first, with undeveloped agrarian nations being an afterthought

Just because the proles are brow beaten to submission does not mean that tensions are low

In USA people literally get their own property, cars and travel with mediocre jobs something that only qualified workers in third world counties can do.

If workers want to live the 3rd world dream let them taste it.

What do you think "alongside" means? Are you retarded? It means simultaneously. Marx's exact words are that is the revolution in Russia "signals" revolution in Western nations, communism can take hold. In fact, later editions of Capitla were edited by Marx to reflect this idea. So are you going to force me to reiterate my point again?

This is a Neoclasscal theory, you know that? Consumption may rise, but the jobs that are brought back can incite real growth despite this.

Nice ideology

Bringing manufacturing jobs back to the United States would in all probability have a non-negative effect on wage levels, and there's little reason to believe that it would significantly raise price levels. As stated before, wages of factory workers only form a small proportion of the cost of a final good, and this is especially true for capital-intensive goods like motor vehicles.

Is it the biggest long-con ever? Has China's "capitalist" phase just been a ploy to gain industry and wealth to build the groundwork for socialism?

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Who needs fucking toyota motors anyway?
Invest in public transport. infrastructure
=> Jobs + affordable public transport + climate change delayed

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But the new supra!

Holy Stirner, OP!

Because of Trump, Toyota's stock in America dropped 50 cents from its previous days close

Foreign automobile companies BTFO!

dialectical materialism operates in mysterious ways

Yeah man the Russians and other deep states don't run subterfuge and interference with our news cycles or elections ever

Good little chattell slave, believe everything that Holla Forums says

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Not big defense, agro, tech or chemical firms or private banks or mega telecom companies. No they're all huwhyte owned and operated. Nothing to see there

Only ((they)) are the problem. Soros and ROTHSCHILD. Pay no attention to Trump's ties to Russia and the mob

FIRST AS TRAGEDY

this

you can hate hillary and recognize that russia likely influenced the election

Only the Ayys can save us now.

Ha! What do you think this is, the seventies?

Prices wouldn't be that much higher. I don't think you realize how much profit porky makes.

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in other words Marx was wrong about some things.

Wow this thread really made me think.

That's basically what Deng Xiaoping thought says, expect it's not really a ploy.