How the FUCK did Holla Forumstards get so entrenched by this 'DA JOOS' shit...

How the FUCK did Holla Forumstards get so entrenched by this 'DA JOOS' shit? I pisses me off so much everything I see this, it's like they know the problem is capitalism, they're admitting the problem is capitalism except they're not because the blame it on """jews""" instead. Do they not realise capitalism is what enables these "jews", that these "jews" are obviously all also CAPITALISTS? Fucking hell, so close but so far.

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Holla Forums are the greatest friends of Trump's closest ally Israel and you're a cuck if you say otherwise.

I mean, there's precedent, it's not like blaming News for the problems of capitalism is new.

You're being too materialist. Nazism is inherently irrational and highly idealist. Money and economics were meaningless to Hitler, all he cared about was this mystical sense of race and nation.

*Jews

No, they don't. The vast majority of Holla Forums defends capitalism. I've even tried to debate Nazis on this and they openly admit they have no problem with capitalism so long as it serves race and nation.

Jews are an easy scapegoat, always have been. It's nothing new. Holla Forums blames them for pretty much every ideology outside of fascism.

Holla Forums also takes a nauseatingly pro-Zionist stance sometimes. They see Israel as a nationalist model to be followed, since it "contains" them.

No. Most Holla Forumstards are corrupted fags that love capitalism. Even if the majority of them will never, ever be rich and own a lot of shit they still love capitalism, because the illusion of maybe someday they can become billionaires is really intrinsic in them.
The culture of entertainment is to blame for this obviously. But they're too much normalfags to ever understand this.

Being right wing is about fake-machismo, arrogance and bluster. It's about doing what an ephemeral father figure "perceives" as being "strong" which is why a conman like Trump who basically held no so called "conservative beliefs" was able to win, because he could yell loudly and looked more tough than the other old white men and Hillary.

Thinking abstractly about economic systems and how they might be fucking us doesn't feel as "strong" as just hating a random group of people. Which is why racism is always so easy for them to fall prey to. Coupled with a fetish over purity and strong definitions. This is why I think even the ones who do attempt to think abstractly about things like the ancaps and libertarians also fall so easily to racism. Purity is the right wings god on earth, virgins, races, freedom, capitalism, language, etc. It's why they're so easily frightened by things that taint these definitions in their mind like irrelevant shiting.

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then they call others cucks/fags/betas/effeminate lel

I know, it's just they use 'shekelstein' the exact same way you'd use 'porky', except one is a reality and the other is tin-foil lunacy. The answer is right in front of them, but they're too stupid and deluded to see it.

It's different, because "porky" has no race, it has no gender. Anyone can be a porky.


kek, please tell me in which video he does that?

Because at the forefront of practically everything "degenerate" is a Jewish person.

The problem is their analysis doesn't really go beyond "Jews = Bad News", resulting in all sorts of logical contortions to justify changes in mass society that have other causes.

Sweden historically was never what you'd categorise as overrun with Jews, but by Holla Forums standards its arguably the worst out of all Western nations. Does that cause them to reevaluate anything? No

That's the major problem with "white nationalism". It's basically "get rid of non-whites and jews, and we can make any system work". That's why they're all over the place in their stance on economic/social issues

Its different.

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Well, when shabbas goys like Richard von Coudenhove-Kalergi bend over for Jews and hold so much influence over the course of history, then it becomes just a bunch of patterns.
They want what the Third Reich wanted for themselves, and the opposite for everybody else.
Just look at how many prominent figures were Jewish. Marx and Lenin are the biggest two. Marx was the descendent from a long line of rabbis, and Lenin was one-quarter Jewish. Lev Bronstein is another. There are many others, come to Holla Forums and see for yourself.


I know, being more in-touch with your emotional side is so much more masculine, my wife's son told me.

Sweden became what it is now only recently so how is that relevant?

Irrelevant. They were all atheists. The Soviet Union crushed Judaism, Hebrew and zionism.

This isn't true. The argument is the fundamental relationships of capitalist production are exploitative and contradictory.

Being insecure that your wife may have had a son with a man previously when it has no connection or bearing on your relationship at all is exactly the kind of pretense towards "purity" I was talking about in the second half of my post.

Glad you could fall into a trap… That wasn't even really a trap as it was plain as day to anyone who was a non-idiot or in other words not you.

Having emotional intelligence is actually critical to your life, and having a lack of it is sign of mental illness. I'm just saying, the unfortunate truth, many fascists on the internet are mentally ill goons.

Actually, Lenin is Mischling. He didn't believe in Judaism. His heritage didn't really matter, and it was basically never mentioned. For all intents and purposes he was a Russian. Also, Stalin has 0% Jewish heritage and is an ethnic Georgian. To make communism out to be a Jewish thing is retarded, when essentially all the heads of state have been non-Jews.

Conformation bias is a thing and liberals suffer from it too.

Nah, as we all know, Mao was a Jew! Castro and Sankara were Jews!

You forget the number one rule of Holla Forums. Anyone they don't agree with is a Jew.

If they're not a full-blooded Jew, they're partially Jewish. If they're not partially Jewish they still must have someone Jewish in their lineage. If they're not direct descendants of Jews it must be a spouse or a child in a relationship with a Jew. If that's not the case it must be a close friend, boss, co-worker or someone they've once shaken hands with.
If the Jewish connection can still not be found they must be crypto-Jews.

However, if Holla Forums likes someone they can't be Jewish. In that case they're either honorary Aryans or "not really Jewish".
A relevant example of this is Ivanka Trump, who is married to a Jew and converted to one of the most Jewish of Jewish sects but still isn't a "Jew".

Also note that Jews are an unanimous insectoid hivemind. Actually, you can extend that to anyone who isn't "White". They're also feeble, inept, socially retarded and mentally challenged. But somehow they're more powerful than "whites", but still inferior.
It's also never capitalism or economics, instead, as long as the exploiter is "white" it's okay. If the entire federal reserve and every financial institution and regulatory organisation in the world were to be handed over to "whites" than everything would be fine. Because it isn't "oppression" as long as "whites" are the ones doing it.

Good post

If "degeneracy" is a proxy of how much "control" Jews have over any society, how are (relatively) non-Jewish societies in as bad shape as those "dominated by Jews"?

But faith is not equivalent to genetics. Jews are certifiably a race. Try telling them they aren't, see real nationalism, lol.


Be my guest and literally fall victim to believing there is virtue in raising another man's genetic success. There are cuttlefish that abuse gentiles like you: youtube.com/watch?v=QGvHA5-XnEo


Emotional intelligence is not a thing, at least the phrasing trying to hint that it has equivalence to intelligence quota. Or does that not exist, either?


Well, I mentioned his heritage, so it matters if that was the point of discussion I mentioned. You can see it for yourself: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Lenin#Childhood:_1870.E2.80.9387
If you don't believe me, so ahead with the sources. It is common knowledge that he is a quarter-Jew. Mischling involves mixture of Jews, and Judaism and Jews are not linked in the way you think. You say that Jews cannot be Jews if they lack faith. To be Jewish is the precursor for Judaism, not the other way around. I cannot alter my faith and, in turn, alter my genetic makeup.
Well, you admit he is a Jewish mongrel when you say he is a Mischling. Define your own term and see for yourself.
Not contended with at all, of course. His Jewish wives, however.
Well, you just made a weak and obvious interjection of your own point to make up for the fact that Jews were vastly over-represented in the initial forms of Communism application in foreign nations. They spearhead the movements and fool gentiles to do the rest of the work. I'm sure those starved to death at the incompetence of the peasants sure loved the "basically Russian" Lenin or the "basically German" Marx for spearheading these movements.
The assertion is that Jews were over-represented in these political revolutions/implementations.
Lev Bronstein was a very important figure in the original movement. Not Leon Trotsky, but the good ol' Jew Mr. Bronstein. Oops, he didn't wear a yarmulke so I guess his genetics are altered.
Lazar Kaganovich, too! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lazar_Kaganovich#Responsibility_for_1932.E2.80.9333_famine
Grigory Zinoviev is also important: Zinoviev is best remembered as the longtime head of the Communist International and the architect of several failed attempts to transform Germany into a communist country during the early 1920s.
Same with Nikolai Yezhov:
"He was head of the NKVD from 1936 to 1938, during the most deadly period of Stalin's Great Purge." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolai_Yezhov
Yakov Yurovsky was responsible for the execution of the royals. Jewish, too.
Lev Kamenev was the brother-in-law of Trotsky, as well as one of the seven members of the first Politburo.
Look into the Jewish Spartacists who pushed for revolution, and got it, in Germany. Simply pointing out any of this is bigoted, even Jewish involvement in Atlantic slave trade, but whites are held to a higher standard? Bite the hand that created virtually all civilizations that others build off of, great idea.
Usually, when a foreign ethnic group murders the ruling family, it is noteworthy that they are not among the native population. Not with Jews, though.

Well, you love to extrapolate information based off of anecdote. I'm a non-white, dislike capitalism, and frequent Holla Forums.
Give me an example of somebody who is not in a spousal relationship with a Jew or of Jewish descent that Holla Forums mislabels, save for the "haha rabbi" jokes.

If they aren't full-blood, but have some mixture, then they are still Hungarian-Jewish, like Soros. They still have that amount of Jewishness in their genetic makeup. Hungarians do not goad their usury of the gentiles over like a trophy, or make up disproportionate amounts of sectors of influence. If they infiltrate foreign media and advertise pro-Hungarian messages, then are rightfully called out on their hypocrisy because there is no Hungarian tear-jerking event.
Hyperbole is not an argument. By genetic relationship, their own admission that they kowtow to Jews (see, Richard von Coudenhove-Kalergi, shabbas goy), or spousal relationship.
That is not the case, if whites still shill off usury as if its was commonplace, then there will still be outrage. The concept of interest on loans has a Jewish history (youtube.com/watch?v=KNWPYQjXSYA).

It very much is a thing and a lack of an emotional center reveals an enormous amount about a person's mental health.

Lack of empathy, lack of respect, lack of coherence, lack of connection of people towards memories, it's all related because your cognition and your emotions are interconnected.

Emotional thinking sparks life into the brain as you develop, a lack of emotion signifies something along the way fucked up.

This goes for most fascists on the internet, again. I don't need to tell you this, that they aren't smart nor very mentally healthy people.

You of all people should know this, Holla Forums.

I also forgot, the main man who financed it all, Jacob Henry Schiff (Jaen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Schiff).

"Emotional intelligence" juxtaposed to intelligence quota is meaningless. Women are the most emotionally intelligent (those terms are almost joined together to hint towards an oxymoron) because they are the most emotional. Does their EQ fluctuate during PMS?
Isn't that just classified as being a sociopath, disrespectful, and short/long-term memory? Grouping it all together in some form of a rank is bigoted, these hierarchies are clearly the result of bourgeoise divide and conquer.
How do you know me to be a fascist? Can you define fascism? Think of that idea in your head prior to clicking on this link, which is the best definition of fascism: anesi.com/Fascism-TheUltimateDefinition.htm
Holla Forums is Not Socialist, not Fascist. Mussolini was not concerned with race at all, but the Third Reich was because it recognized ethnic/genetic bonds between people. They had a love for their own people and hatred for those who destroyed that future. That is empathetic for the future of their flesh and blood.
They had great respect, and valued honour very highly. Militarism is part of the definition of Fascism, and you don't have a successful military without respect and honour. Not sure where you are getting this from.
I have no clue how you can categorize/rank connection of memory. I can go ask them, I'm pretty sure they could remember stuff. Their officers had pretty high Autism Levels: gnxp.com/MT2/archives/003155.html
Also, your flag is very interesting. Does this mean that you are the most emotionally intelligent? I am very aware of my emotions. I wonder what I would score.
Consider this, what of sociopaths who manipulate their empathy? That is, a crazy guy who can make himself out as being the nicest, most sincere person. If you can manipulate EQ so easily, how on Earth can you claim it as being a valid metric? The "Q" part is obviously a jab at Autism Level. I can try and recognize patterns and categorize things "better" than I actually can, but it just doesn't work that way. If you don't know, you don't know.
Anarcha-feminist? Is that a joke? Do you think that lawlessness, or anarchy, is a solution? Governance is inevitable, the solutions to its absence always result in some form of leadership. Just don't call it a government, I guess.
Also, can you point me towards a matriarchal society that has stood the test of time? Like, a legitimate civilization that had, at its core, matriarchy. They were able to advance along the technology tree and repel invaders, form solid philosophy and contribute something worthwhile.

It's actually based in hard medical science about the brain.

Cognition and emotional development are linked at the hip. If you fucked one up you're not going to be intelligent in the other.


You sound like a real winner lmfao


Thanks I already knew that.

Quotient
noun

1 a result obtained by dividing one quantity by another.
2 a degree or amount of a specified quality or characteristic.

Okay but Lenin was not a genetic jew or a religious one. Mischling's are not Jews.


Ioseb Jughashvili (Stalin) obviously was an ethnic Georgian and so was his first wife Ketevan Svanidize who was the only one he really cared about. So what if he may have had Jewish mistresses that doesn't make someone Jewish.

All these people were killed by Stalin. None of them actually got to take power because of the non-Jew Stalin. So you can't really give a good example of Jews being the head of a socialist state, you can only give examples of people who got purged.

If anything you can claim that actually existing socialism (Stalinism) has been anti-semitic. Both Judaism and Zionism have been consistently opposed and. Also the fact that Stalin removed Jews from high positions in order to please Germany followed by signing the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact (vehemently opposed by the Jew Trotsky and his followers) is also worth bearing in mind.

Of course, but we are discussing EQ, which is defined as: the capacity to be aware of, control, and express one's emotions, and to handle interpersonal relationships judiciously and empathetically.
Let's go off of the word control. Sociopaths do this very well. They can control their empathy, does this mean that they have high EQ, even though you cited lack of empathy (which they ultimately do have if they are sociopaths, they just don't wear their hearts on their sleeves from the get-go) as a "measurement"/part of the metric. You cannot manipulate Autism Level that easily, or at all. I cannot "will" myself to recognize patterns at a higher rate than I am capable of. It's the same logic behind not being able to finish a math question because you don't understand what the problem is, I can't just will myself to understand it without first being capable of understanding it (let's say I took a snooze during that one differentiation lecture).
Glad to make you laugh. Is that another metric of EQ? Sure sounds rigid.

Well, that does nothing to answer my question! What was your pre-conceived notion of fascism before reading the link?


Let me rephrase: emotion is not something as rigid as intelligence. In fact, overly-emotional people are not usually thought of as being intelligent. A female who relies on her emotion is not very intelligent. Appealing to emotion isn't an argument.
They can be measured, but one is much more questionable.


Define Mischling. It literally means partial Jewish ancestry.


I never denied his Georgian heritage.
The "So what" is that he is not outside of the Jewish sphere, his predecessors were all Jews, his philosophy was spearheaded by Jews (Marx is the founder of modern Communism), and he had Jewish mistresses. He is a shabbas goy if I've ever heard of one.

Please read my initial point:
They spearhead the movements and fool gentiles to do the rest of the work.
The groundwork was laid by Jews. Of course the purges got rid of the Jews, even Stalin realized their nefarious capability. My point is not concerned with that, but with, say, pointing out how Yakov Yurovsky executed the royal family. That does nothing to alter Schiff's funding of the whole revolution.
That's the whole point. If Japanese people/half-Japanese/quarter-Japanese stage a revolution, fund it, push for the social changes, operate secret police killing squads against the, say, Brits, and all the while masquerade their true identity as "totarry British", then pointing out how they spearheaded these such movements is nothing but the truth. Of course Brits took it over for them, that is not up for debate because it obviously occurred. I don't think you are understanding this, I already admit that, but that does nothing to change the Red Army's first chairman, being Mr. Bronstein.

Just like to take my hats off to you guys, I would have usually been banned by the tolerance and diversity squad at plebbit, while you goyim are holding strong. Congrats.

This is all completely irrelevant to the actual contents of communist theory. Why should I care about the supposed "origins" you claim? That's like saying we shouldn't use nuclear energy, or lasers, because jews pioneered their invention. Completely irrelevant.

What you got is some monstrous confirmation bias, compounded through much time and many people's delusions.

Looking at you from outside of the antisemitic rabbit hole is like watching a train wreck. Sure, I'm aware jews practice nepotism and tribalism but EVERYONE does it. You're bonkers.

They actually don't. This is a myth. A virulent myth.

Sociopaths lack empathy, but they also lack self control from it. In this way, they act extremely self interested and become loners, hardly ever "manipulating" anyone beyond a step, they crash and burn in embarrassing personal friendships and relationships because they're a sociopath.

End up living a lonely life. Not very bright either.


No, I am saying, quite clearly, medical consensus is that emotional development and cognitive development are linked, as abstracting emotions in such a way we do is critical to mental growth as a human being.

If you praise yourself on not being emotional you are essentially saying you're crippled or disabled.

Which is funny, because I didn't need to know this to point that out, you're from Holla Forums, you said so yourself.

And here we go again. If we can't prove they're Jewish, it must be their ideology. (Or again, crypto-Jews)
Which is funny of course, because it follows the same pattern as Holla Forumss labeling of "Jews". Any ideology they don't like is Jewish.

Libertarianism? Jews. Socialism? Jews. Capitalism? Jews. Liberalism? Jews. Civic nationalism? Jews. Non-Nazist-Fascism? Non-White Nationalism? Jews.
Islam is crypto-Jews, as is Catholicism, Protestantism. Really any Abrahamic religion. Atheism is also Jewish, but so is "paganism" and Eastern religions, which is just kike D&C.
Psychology is Jewish, Sociology is Jewish, any science that doesn't agree with Holla Forumss dogma is Jewish.

Only their infalliable perfect brand of Nazism and snowflake religious beliefs aren't Jewish.
*Yawn*. What a tired intellectually shallow ideology.

It's pretty tough to take your complete insanity, but we shall soldier on and maybe you'll learn a thing or two.

Now don't run away.

He did not finance the Bolshevik revolution, one Swedish Cooperative banker did. Why do people take everything Holla Forums says at face value?

Well, you can go look it up, it isn't supposition, it's fact. Be my guest, though, do your patented fact check.
What? Political philosophy is not equivalent to natural phenomena, like half-life/decay rates or the electromagnetic spectrum. That is not remotely close to what I am talking about.

We aren't talking about the merits OF the system, but its origins. You are quick to defend it, but that is not the point of contention.

So you claim that the workers don't control the means of production and that a state existed, ergo not true communism/socialism/whatever. They certainly weren't the end-goal, but they were transitional stages. Just get rid of the state and a few things fall into place and bam: your true communism.
But if the transitional stages failed so spectacularly, then why persist? The kulaks got their status not because of illegitimate hierarchy, but because they were literally the right fit for the job. The peasants obviously couldn't control the production of goods. Executing intellectuals or the non-agrarians isn't a great idea.
Also of interest: Marx wrote his conclusive case for world Communism prior to writing the theory for it. Remind me, isn't that antithetical to the basic tenet of the scientific method? Don't go into something with a preconceived conclusion? I used to think Lenin was fully Jewish, but the truth is that he is not, he is a quarter Jew.
Appeal to perfection, we can still observe the Jews and their nepotism. Asians and Ashkenazi Jews have about the same Autism Level, Jews a bit higher. There are more Asians than Jews, and they are about the same capability, yet Jews absolutely dominate the Ivy League. Certainly nothing to do with their nepotism or strong in-group preferences because everybody does it, right?
Just let me know if you want to name-call.


So what is it called if somebody can manipulate their empathy? I can do it, people do it all the time (to varying degrees) to feign interest or get out of social obligations. They can alter their empathy levels, which means they decrease their "lack of empathy" quotient.

Not denying this. The point of contention is the validity behind the quotient at-hand.
Deliberate misrepresentation. I feel emotion all the time, the difference being I do not let them dictate my life, so to speak. I do not rely on emotions to make judgements, whereas a high EQ person would see empathy and save a dying rabbit on the street, lulling it and tending to its wounds, I would kill it immediately so as to put it out of its agony (some cooing won't save it, it is as good as dead in the wild).


When I say "his ideology", I am referencing the political philosophy of Marx. What was Marx's heritage, again?
Rothbard, Mises, Rand, Friedman.
The most recent and famous example, Mr. Barnie Sandlers.
This ties into an-cap, which had many influential Jewish figures, listed above.
Not necessarily. That is a massive phrase, a huge umbrella term. Jews are more "liberal" than conservative, though: pewforum.org/2013/10/01/chapter-6-social-and-political-views/
It would be in the best interest of any minority to ghettoize and assume political positions of power to influence the host nation, not just Jews. AIPAC is pretty good at it, though.
Can you give me examples of this?
They are literally Semitic, just like Jews. It is an Abrahamic religion.
I'm not a Christian, so I don't know. I'm not really religious, but I believe in some creation.
Who the heck was Abraham?
Isn't Sam Harris their Jesus or something?
You could have listen Satanism, as Anton Szandor LaVey was a Jew. Odd, maybe it lapsed your mind.
Not sure about paganism, again a huge term. Most people used to be pagan, actually.
You mean Buddhists? Pretty sure they aren't Jews.

Advertising social/political beliefs is not equivalent to the social/political belief itself. Pushing for mass immigration of Indian Sikhs is not equivalent to the Sikhs themselves.
First name that comes to mind is Freud. Also take it easy Dylann.
I don't think anybody respects sociologists, in general. Here you go, though: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Jewish_sociologists

Kind of life those bigoted Chinese Jews who…believe in race: archive.is/pxlcm
You must be tired, nobody rational can hold such a train of thought, trying to link such massive concepts/painting the opposition as claiming them to be Jews. Sikhs or Hindus are clearly non-Jews. Liberalism is a huge term, so is Protestantism.

Fantastic argument.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Schiff#Last_years

This says absolutely nothing about him funding the revolution.

Report and move on

This is a good read: wildboar.net/multilingual/easterneuropean/russian/literature/articles/whofinanced/whofinancedleninandtrotsky.html

here comes the tolerance and diversity squadron, 12th battalion.

You haven't answered: why should I care? How is the origin of the theory relevant to the theory?

Don't post another useless wall of text if you can't even answer a simple question.

Report submitted!

You're right, why care about the origins of a movement, just follow it because the origins are not relevant to the movement, at such a level to care who wrote it.
I say this to inspire a moment of self-awareness, but I know that is lost with your kind.
If you cannot refute the information, then you do away with the concept of taking in information (see, wrongthink) altogether.
Let me relate this to a sandwich. An inquisitive mind asks where the ingredients came from, they don't just eat it for the sake of eating it, or because their neighbour is eating the same sandwich. They are hungry, so they see to finding a sandwich which fits their needs. Of course, this is not a perfect analogy, as one usually reads the literature of a movement prior to taking part. We analyze the work to see if it is aligned with our views. Part of this is looking at its origins. Who wrote it, how did he live his life, where was he from, how did he get inspired, etc. These are important articles of information, if they weren't we wouldn't have been recording them for thousands of years.


What does the flag mean, newfriend?

Voluntarysim :^}

With or without a state? So I can do whatever the hell I please? Opt out or take part? What is stopping me from killing you and taking your land/resources? Your neighbours will "opt out" of saving you without a state, what straw do they have in our quarrel. If I give them half of your land, it's a sealed deal.
Again, with or without a state?

You use an awful amount of words to say an awful lot. I'll address bits out of here I think are worth correcting:


What do you mean? His theory of Capitalism was disseminated in earlier forms, such as the economic manuscripts of 1844. There's also Wage Labour and Capital - 1847. This is all prior to the Communist Manifesto

Everything else is drivel, logic games using irrelevant walls of text. Questions that have already been answered millions of times, and which you would know the answer to if you possessed a modicum of reading comprehension.


Right, which is not the Bolshevik revolution. What nonsense you spew. I've read that nonsensical article before as well, they pull all this shit from Anthony Sutton.


And once again: how does that have any bearing on the theoretical merits of the text?

Its defined by the Nuremberg laws which distinguish Jews from Mischlings. Thats enough of that then, its clearly defined if you want to look it up.


So if I fuck a Japanese women once am I an honorary Japanese person?


The Bolshevik revolution was funded by the Germans. The leader of the revolution, Vladimir Lenin, was sent by train to Russia by the Germans to cause trouble with their war effort. Lenin was the most vehement opponent of the war, which was killing millions of people on both sides including Germans so he was chosen to lead the revolution to cause trouble with the war effort, which they did. They were denounced as "Germano Bolsheviks" long before the Nazis created their stupid anti-semitic conspiracy theory for their role in the war including by the Left SRs who opposed them as "Germano Bolsheviks" and assassinated Mirbach so the war would continue. Why don't you look at what actually happened? There is no evidence Schiff had anything to do with the revolution.

Yes

No. Ideas have merits of their own regardless of origin.

Appeal to tradition and or authority. Also authors record their names to be credited, not to be autistically overscrutinized.

State is not voluntary is it (^:?

Perhaps you're more at home at /r/socialism. Echo chambers are cancer, head over to Holla Forums and see it yourself if you think otherwise.

Jews were prominent in early Italian Fascism, just as they were in Hungary and Romania.

However, the whole problem is that the merit of ideologies and individuals is primarily related to their "Jewishness". And it isn't even consistent.
Someone like Noam Chomsky: A libertarian anti-Zionist, anti-Wall street, Anti-Capitalist thinker who's also atheist and just happens to have been born in a Jewish family is denounced as a subversive kike shill.
While Trump's family, - who are largely married to ultra-orthodox Jews, are pro-Israel, have Jewish children - and his advisors and cabinet members - some of who are also ultra-orthodox, pro-zionist and sometimes openly globalist, and have deep connections to Wall Street and Jewish organisations - are somehow "honorary aryans" and part of Trump's 1488D masterplan to nuke Israel and gas the Jews.

Pol's worldview is inconsistent, hysterical, schizophrenic and delusional. There is little sensible critique outside "niggers and kikes" and little economic or political theory outside of "kill the shitskins".

???

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Worst of all: If you point this out you are accused of being a "JIDF" (Who are pro-Trump btw, just check their facebook group) kike shill, and most likely banned.
Any attempts to explain social and geopolitical situations other than through the lens of the "Grand Jewish Conspiracy" - such as by bringing up economics - is either ignored or denounced as "cultural marxism", "Frankfurt school revisionism" or other irrelevant buzzwords. Or again, as plain shilling.


Hi /r/socialism.

Partially meant for

Would you like to see me argue as you do?
Your post is drivel, a wall of text post. Tell me, how many number of characters before you dislike the conclusion? I think it has nothing to do with that.
Why should I engage if you wish to be dishonest in your debate tactics?
Marx arrived at his conclusion to global Communism before writing the theory of his work. Not that his theory worked out all that well, either. Even the transitional stages of his work failed.
If this place had IDs, I would remember to trace back this argument to you.
Who do you think the original Bolsheviks were? Look at the First Politburo, it reads like a Jewish telephone book.
I wonder if you're the guy who makes the genetic fallacy point below. Interesting…
We still record it, that's my point. It is valuable information to have. The point of contention was NOT the application, but the fact that he was a Jew. You asked why this is important, and I said that it is information to record. We know that Socrates was Greek, we record this information. This has nothing to do with his work, I never even mentioned it. You asked why we should know this information, and I said that it is because we have records for this purpose.


So it literally means mixed Jew! You just contradict yourself when you say he wasn't a Jew.
Ah, how convenient. You lot sure are intellectually consistent.
No, your offspring is half-Japanese/half-Jewish.
And the Jews. It is documented. I already showed this above, you can go see the links yourself.
Yes, I read about this. That is not debated.
It's not like the Marxists had a great relationship with Germany to begin with. Germans outsourcing cancerous belief system to their enemy, good tactic. Sure worked out well for them.
Well, it didn't start with the nazis. It isn't conspiracy if it's true. Jews are nepotistic, tribalist people who want that for their own, the opposite for others. They practice usury. All of this is documented. Watch the goy's guide to history: youtube.com/watch?v=KNWPYQjXSYA
You can take a horse to water, but you can't make it drink. Not my fault if you refuse information.

Never claimed the two were dependent. Quote me on that. I said that we record these things because they pertain to the information, not because they dictate the validity of the information (i.e. genetic fallacy). As I said above: We know that Socrates was Greek, we record this information. This has nothing to do with his work, I never even mentioned it. You asked why we should know this information, and I said that it is because we have records for this purpose.
We do it not because we used to do it, ergo it is correct. We do it because it is a valid practice to sign your work and affiliate your name with your identity. Otherwise we would not know anything about anybody.
I guess we should stop listing place of birth or ethnicity, that is so bigoted and only autists care about that, we are all the same kind of people and autistic retards care about ethnic makeup of individuals.

So without a state?

Easy to say that without looking at the critiques first. You arrive at the conclusion and base your judgement off of that, which is not an argument.
Left-libertarian. That is ideologically inconsistent. It makes no sense. He can be anti-Zionist, that does not change the fact that he is a Jew. He is a kike (by definition), the subversion is because his beliefs are self-contradictory, and a shill is anybody who pushes their brand/name. All non-anonymous people are shills. Jews are more liberal (see link above).
Trump is very tied to the Jews, but he is not genetically Jewish. Also, strawman taking memes to be reality, nobody thinks he will use nuclear weapons against the state of Israel. That is literally never a coherent statement made by anybody, unironically.
His cabinet members are not the individual. Noam Chomsky is not defined by his peers, but you extend that standard to Trump? He is not globalist or tied to Wall Street (he is as rich as they are). He is a Zionist, but not interventionist, only for Republican brownie points. He spoke at AIPAC, too. Literally everybody knows this. I'm not sure what boogeyman you are attacking.

I know, I hate fascists, too, Sven. Let's go down to the migrant centre for some bumplay, eh?

I'm not the Holla Forumstard but I know he's gonna say it's some convoluted mind control plot to subvert and control all the goys.

When Holla Forumstards say shit like that it shows how poorly they think of the goyim's ability to look for themselves. This in turn is a reflection of how poorly they think of themselves. Sad!

Which is why you report and move on

Answer the question already!

Alright mates, I'm employed so I have to go to work. Nice chatting with you, here is my response (as per your "rebuttals" of my argument).

Anything you type is a block of text that is fascist drivel, also don't make genetic fallacies. Everything you type is not true because something else occurred in tandem, which means the one I disagree with is cancelled out.
Everything you type is actually not true because of this hyperbole which actually super represents your argument.

hey, looks like I was right already.

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You're defining Stalin by his piers and his ideology, even though he purged Jews, opposed Israel and tried to organize a literal holocaust against them in the USSR before he croaked due to a stroke.
Trump might not fit into the globalist camp, but he's tied into Wall Street (See his close friends and advisors) and Jewish money (look at the list of people that gave him money in the past). Again, that of course doesn't define him completely. Which is exactly my point. Just because you have ties to Jews, Jewish children, are sympathetic to certain Jews or even love Israel and have taken Jewish money doesn't mean you have to be part of some grand globalist Jewish conspiracy.

But this same reasonable judgment is not extended to people like Chomsky, or really any other anti-zionist, anti-capitalist nominally "Jewish" thinkers.
Left-libertarianism is hardly inconsistent, it's about realizing that debt slavery - which Jews are so often accused of, state power - which Jews get accused of usurping and manipulating , and censorship - which Jews are accused of applying to pro-white views , are inherently a threat to liberty and personal dignity. Including the integrity of (culturally distinct) communities.
That's not the same as saying personal wealth or the free exchange of goods shouldn't exist, which is something even all but the most hardcore marxist-lenists agree with.

But no, because Chomsky was born into a Jewish family he's a kike shill, and because he's associated with left-libertarianism - which actually eats away and seeks to abolish the very institutions you accuse the "Jews" of using to destroy the white race - the entire ideology and all of it's adherents are subversive kike shills as well.
Again, the arbitrary definition of "Jewishness" enjoys precedence over what would actually decrease or even destroy "Jewish" influence. As said earlier: Inconsistent and hysterical.

Think about this: If a system allows a subversive clique of rootless cosmopolitans to usurp it and use it to destroy your (white) society, perhaps it should be abolished?
This is exactly the position of left-libertarians and it's derivatives. Yet because it's associated with nominally Jewish philosophers it's denounced outright. Instead you will gladly cling to a system that paradoxically gives those same "Jews" the means to subvert it and use it against you.

Jews are literally a deus ex machina in far right ideology. They have to be a magically omnipotent force of pure evil to fill in the gaps in their retarded logic.

not really they have logical conclusions to their beliefs once you wade through the semi-literate skinhead crowd to the deep recesses where the intellectuals reside
nepotism is one reason jews are disliked so much by the right
jews practice nepotism all the god damn time whereas the right prefers a pure meritocracy

So much bullshit right here. This type of simple minded, gross blanket statements is why you're not taken seriously.

I'll say it again: what you have is confirmation bias. You go in looking for joos and you find them through mental gymnastics (he's a quarter jew, guys!). And through the same mental gymnastics you arrive at the conclusion you were looking for: it's da joos!

It's absolutely fucking bananas from outside.

Modern Communism is a Jewish invention, pushed for by Jews in its early stages in foreign nations, like Germany and Russia. Stalin, like I said above, realized the nefarious capability of Jews. I never related Stalin to his peers, he had purged Jews by then. It is his ideology and history.
Trump is not a Jew, but he IS Wall Street and is pro-Israel, but not interventionist, which means little if you are not willing to go to war for Greater Israel (WMDs for Iraq, now in Iran). I do not disagree. He literally is not globalist.
You're right, you have to be Jewish first. Shabbas goys have a tougher time. See Richard von Coudenhove-Kalergi

Chomsky is Jewish, though. That's the difference. Read of the history of the Jews, nothing we see today is original. Same decadent social movements were pushed for by Jews in media during the Weimar republic in Germany.
Same logic applies to Finklestein. The Jews play both sides of the coin while remaining behind the curtains. They are both the defendant and the prosecutor, all in order to fool the gentile. Even all the Jews still latch onto their universal truth, the guilt industry of the Holocaust. Even Chomsky, even Finklestein: all of them.
Read the flow chart, please. How can you enforce social justice without a state. Just don't call it one. Governance is inevitable.
Not necessarily state power, but influence for subversive means.
Getting rid of the state instead of getting rid of the Jews? Why not just get rid of the Jews and let your own people rule in your own nation? Oh, I forgot, only Jews get to have sovereign nations and the right to self-determination. White nations are for everybody.
Debt slavery? As long as morons exist, people will take out debt. Do away with morons if you dislike debt, or do away with usurious activities. Just don't be an anti-Semite!
Chomsky is literally a Jew, though. He is, by definition, a kike. He is a shill because he is non-anonymous.
No, left-libertarianism is like sinking the ship because there's a flood: there's water here, why not everywhere! Jews can subvert nations from the state, so no state at all!
No, name the people who subvert it and do away with them.
Strawman, a Jew can say 2+2=4, it will be correct. It is denounced because it is illogical and self-contradictory. I want to start a bank and loan money out to people, I want to deviate from the collective. If you live in this voluntary society, I ought to be able to do all these things. What is my future? I deviate from social justice, you strike back in order to remain consistent with your beliefs. So much for individualism.
Watch the goy's guide for history; better yet, read the Jewish revolutionary spirit. This is not original what we see today. If you call it a conspiracy, though, then you are relying on non-arguments to form your beliefs. You can see the "cohencidences" line up for yourself. All those Goldbergs are just the anti-Semites being bigoted and…recording ethnic makeup of people. It wasn't in the twentieth century alone that they became coin-shavers.

I had to get this one last one in before work.
Let's summarize my rebuttal.
Wall of text, you are a bigot, and, in your own words, you are "inconsistent, hysterical, schizophrenic and delusional". I'm only extending your own arguments to yourself :^).

jews have an in-group preference
christ just look at how insular hasidic orthodox jewish communities are
they tried to pass a law in Australia not too long ago where jewish community members have to report to their Rabbi and get advice on whether or not to go to the police and report it as a crime if another member of the community raped/molested their children


tbf I dont go looking for jews to justify my beliefs seriously speaking
but c'mon the number of 🍀🍀🍀coincidences🍀🍀🍀 is mind-boggling by now
remember that guy the zionist who said they would have an agenda but their agenda's opposition would always be run by them?
when i look at bicameral parliament, labour vs conservative thats exactly what I see
both are controlled opposition and are members I guess of the bourgeoisie

Everyone has their own petty rationalization for it. Yours is no more believable.

mines just an opinion formed based on the evidence I've seen
I'm not asking you to accept is as fact just doubt your own dogma I do it all the time so should you
thought I'd reply like this before I dun get spooked

I will summarize. I will say, you are one of the most interesting fascist I have ever seen. You have an uncanny knack to write loads of text, stretch out one sentence into 4, make confusing and ambiguous assumptions, showcase your political illiteracy enough to agitate for a response but not enough for people to dismiss you outright, make assumptions and backpedal into a more founded generalization (i.e. All Jews have a group preference that isn't a generalizations, why look at this completely unrelated highly orthodox sect of Jews, this proves my point). Like all Nazi's you rely on sketchy conspiracy theories ( I'm on my phone and can't post, but look up the primary source for the Schiff thing - there is no evidence he funded them, merely a suspicion of the state). Overall I did learn a lot in debate with you - that I shouldn't waste my time arguing with well spoken morons.

Your grammar is all over the place and typically you wasted half that paragraph attempting to belittle me
Schiff? a quick google search saved me there
and im not getting into that can of worms I can assume I'd get shouted down to oblivion and banned if I discussed that on here so I wont
and tbf I'm not a fascist although I do agree with aspects of its economic model

For example a statement like "how are you going to enforce social justice without a state". It is vaguely related to leftism in the sense that Chomsky is sincerely trying to accomplish social justice, but is so devoid of theoretical substance ( if you were at all familiar with the syndicalism you would've addressed a specific aspect of it. You wouldn't even have to do that, Proudhon the French anarchist and anti-Semite was revolutionary and violent as well. You seem to forget that the crux of the justification for violence in left libertarianism is that private property is a fiction of the state enforced by violence built into the system. But instead your infograph addresses none of that, posits the fact that they want to use force as a contradiction. Typical Holla Forums drivel), that it seems possible to reason with you - to inject some reason into your thick skull. However, if someone were to respond to you you'd shift goalpost like you did when I mentioned that Marx had very much "formulated his theory of global communism"( or rather formulated his critique of Capitalism which is what he spent most of his life working on. He did not do much work on Communist theory which is why we still debate over what Marx meant). You are fascinating, but you probably kill yourself.

I'm typing on my phone, but if you want to look it up the primary source for the banker funding Lenin is a state document that speculates he did, eventually arriving at the conclusion he did not. There was never any proof beyond this.

They just call everything they dont like jewish, doesnt matter if it actually is jewish.
Meanwhile they praise one of the most jewish US presidents there is as their god emperor

more jewish than this guy?

Yes
Sanders was one of the few that somewhat opposed Israel

he also voted yes on every single war the USA has been involved in in the last 30 years
how would sanders oppose israel? boycott their goods?
the best thing you can do to destroy israel is pretend to be their friend then hang them out to dry
if you isolate israel from the US and the West for a fucking second they're doomed

He was against Iraq if I remember correctly

Well I think he voted yes if im remembering correctly but then again I might have just been reading a generalist propaganda piece
but I know Sanders is pro-war and pro-foreign intervention which is bad, the US fucks up every country on the planet they attempt to 'intervene' in

I like having roads and being a first world country
Russia so retarded that only 10% have clean drinking water
Why do you faggots think the government can any real good with history showing strong governments always fail

He was anti both of the Iraq wars. Voted against the patriot act. His career started in the anti-Vietnam war movement.

Fascism had prominent Jewish thinkers before they were pruned from the movement, quite a few of the early Nazis were socialists and Mussolini himself was deep into the socialist movement and syndicalism, which formed one of the bases for the fascist movement later on (When he rejected class warfare). One of the most prominent pre-war ideologies among Jews in Palestine was fascism (See the Lehi). Even the Nazis had people that would be considered Jewish by todays rabbis.
Does this mean Fascism and Nazism are Jewish ideologies? No. It's obvious such a statement would be ridiculous. Yet any other movement is denounced as being kikery because of their association with Jews, even if they're partially Jewish, it's only a minority of their ancestry or they're atheist or converted to another religion.

So when is someone Jewish? Are they Jewish if both their parents are Jewish, even if they reject Judaism and are atheist or even converted to another religion? Are they Jewish if they have one Jewish parent or grandparent? Are they Jewish if their politics were influenced by Jewish philosophers? Coudenhoven-Kalegri wasn't a jew, but he was a globalist through and through. Yet Chomsky is an anti-globalist, so was Bookchin. Yet the latter are in on this whole globalist Jewish conspiracy, why?

I hope you don't mean "social justice" in the way modern liberals use it, or think left-libertarianism is about handouts.
Communities can enforce laws, as they did before the advent of centralized nation-states. If you want to have an idea of what left-libertarianism is like in practise, read up about the Federation of Northern Syria (aka the kurds, though they're a minority now). There is a mutually agreed upon social contract, communities manage themselves. Private property is dealt with on a local level (mostly to prevent landlords from squeezing the poor), private business is respected, income taxes are abolished, usury is banned, pretty much everyone is armed, local militias deal with the security of the community and issues are dealt with on a local level and between communities. The federal level mostly exists to coordinate efforts. Isn't this what you people actually want?
And before you mention "western support": Note that every party in the conflict has received some form of foreign support, and the Kurds (as they were a majority at the time) received far less than other parties. There were no universities in the region, the people were barely educated and yet they made it work. If a bunch of "backwards" people (or "shitskins" as you call them on Holla Forums) are able to achieve a system that both guarantees personal liberty, the cultural integrity (there are no race quotes and almost every cultural/racial group forms its own communities) and a bulwark against state tyranny and subversion, than think about what it can do for the west.

that goes against I read for sure
or I could be thinking of Clinton

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Jews have lived in Europe for almost two-thousand years, yet it is somehow only the last one hundred years that they've become a substantial threat to white civilization, why?
If you abolish the institutions that can be subverted, you prevent these threats from emerging in the first place. What power would these Jews have if usury were banned, news outlets were independent and local, social welfare didn't exist, no taxes could be levied, communities could decide themselves who to accept or not and security was in the hands of local (nationally cooperating) militias?

It's subverted by more people than just Jews. Sociopaths, social parasites, corrupt nepotists. Do you think killing all non-whites and Jews is going to make that magically disappear? Do you think there existed no problems before mass immigration or before Jews settled in Europe and North America?
Centralized and organized power can be subverted and manipulated. This has been happening throughout history even in societies without Jews.

You'd have a future. You'd be able to live among your own people, financially independent, not having to pay taxes that are used for handouts for useless mouths, not forced to abide by arbitrary laws, not forced into debt slavery or forced to include social parasites (Including those immigrants you so despise).
Banks as we know them wouldn't exist, ownership of land and natural wealth would all be local. If you're in trouble your local community will help. If you need a loan you can loan from your local community at zero interest.

Hardly. Globalism is bad regardless of whether you are Jewish or not, usury is bad regardless of whether the debtor is named Goldberg or not, people are individuals and not exclusively defined by their relations to others.
I don't obsess over the skin color or ethnicity of the resident tyrant, I seek to abolish the system that allows that tyranny to emerge in the first place.

Does this mean Fascism and Nazism are Jewish ideologies?
False equivalence. Amount of Jews in early Bolshevik revolution compared to the Third Reich is apples and oranges. Simply because Jews exist=/=Jewish movement. Communism is different, the father of modern Communism is Marx, it was pushed for by Jews, first Politburo was overwhelmingly Jewish, it was financed by Schiff. Again, apples and oranges.
Also, NS is not Fascism. Can you define Fascism? NS? Define socialism. Simply because Mussolini used to be socialist does not equate to NS socialism.

Well, it isn't perfectly down-the-middle fifty-fifty inheritance, but let's assume that it is. If you have two great-grandparents that are Jews (or, one grandparent), then you are a quarter-Jew (25%). Beyond that, you get into exponentially decaying rates (12.5, 6.25, etc.). At those points, it becomes negligible. It's (1/2)^n, with 'n' being each generation away from you. You can see how it becomes tinier as you go up.
Judaism is not dependent upon genetics.
Yes. The "conspiracy" is globalization for others, nationalism for your own.
What do you think the "conspiracy" is? Define conspiracy. Give examples.
If you'd bother to watch the goy's guide, you can get a clearer picture. Not every Jew is a part of it, but the Jews who are in the Spectre mindset make the rest look bad. They have mass control over the media at higher rates proportional to their population. Then, it is fair to say that they are in control of general public opinion regarding topics. Advertising hasbara and good PR for the Jews, guilt industry of the Holocaust, and greatest ally rhetoric is to be expected, just like any other group that has that amount of influence over the enemy.

That would be a welfare state. Left-lib. does want some sort of safety net that unites the common people, there is an aspect of collectivization, by definition.
No, you can't. I am not bound by anything to follow them. There is no state that enforces those laws by force. I can do whatever I wish, I can deviate from the collective at will. But the minute I choose to, you must make a decision that will render left-lib. redundant. Do you operate as a collective and remove me, or let me do what I want? People cannot pool resources by mere will and live harmoniously, there will always be deviation from the norm that will mess everything up. You either let it exist (voluntary) or you gang up (just don't call it a state).
What the hell does that mean. There is no such thing as "levels" of private property, you either allow it or you don't. I can't kind of own something, somebody (or plural) owns it or they don't. I forgot you guys are opposed to the concept of ownership, kind of like that balding nu-male McInnes debated with: youtube.com/watch?v=QTtroLDnh9U
Did you jus say that the federal level (of government) exists? In left lib.? That doesn't make sense.

You are getting too deep into your analogy. Kurds don't have a state? They have a social safety net for the people, pool resources into the collective? What personal liberty, what liberty do you have when you are obligated to share your resources in the collective, just by mere virtue of your ideology expecting you to do so? What is their ethnic homogeneity levels?
You can't get off with that weak of an analogy, go more in-depth. How many Kurds? What is their gdp? I don't even think the nation even exists, there is no "Kurdistan". They have no defined borders. You know how easy it is to destroy those people? It's just the natives all over again. You don't even have the concept of land ownership, you don't even have a nation.

Watch the links, please. You don't know what you are talking about. It has not been in the last century, Jews were kicked out of Carthage, too. Rome, France, England.
That isn't an argument because you have issue with the institution itself. Make your argument against the institution first. It can be subverted, okay. Put the JQ on layaway, make an argument against a state.
You just named the Jews twice.
Make what disappear? You still have yet to make the argument against a state.

Well, look at welfare consumption and crime rates of these immigrants.
Never claimed otherwise. But get more into this as opposed to just saying Jews are the reason to abolish it, I don't say that, you do. Make your argument why we should abolish it.
No laws, no taxes, no state. We all just operate as the collective. Listen, you are describing an-cap, not left lib. Start making your argument with respect to the placement of left lib on the spectrum.
I don't think virtue-signalling will get you very far if there isn't a Facebook to gloat on, as it would not have been invented in left lib nations. Not even nations, just camps of people. When philosophy runs out of ideas, they turn back the clock and operate like tribal cavemen.

No, many of them are atheist socialists.

When will you Holla Forums weenies learn? It's a futile effort.

You'll never convert Holla Forums. Give up.