Oh hey, let's play TF2

Nope, it's been connect for as long as I can remember.

look even crit sandvich has stopped filling up every day.
and you can forget about trying to find a decent spot at midnight.
nemu's is like the last bastion of not 2fort/trade player owned servers.

TF2 has been dead for years.
It started with the class updates, and ended when it stopped being about the game altogether.

Now it's a ghost town of bronies, and pre-order promotions for games that haven't been relevant in nearly a decade.

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Oh wait I forgot, this is 2017.

I know that user, but even the bronies and underageb& are leaving, and even the shittier meme servers I used to play on are empty. I'm fairly certain that player numbers across the board are dropping.

They probably are, but can you blame them?

The game is old.
Valve made shit decisions with it.
Source has aged like milk and runs like shit.
The hat/item market has completely bottomed out.

It's sad when Overwatch, of all things, feels more like launch-era TF2 than TF2 does today.

It's almost as if a decade has gone by.

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Not an argument. There's games even older than that, which still see active fanbases and still play amazingly.

Valve on the other hand, did everything wrong and really should never be given free reign to make games ever again.

Oh wait, they don't make games anymore anyway. Nevermind.

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It is telling that I can still waltz into a populated CS 1.6 server like nothing happened but TF2 couldn't just be left well enough alone, could it?

;_;

That's really the crux of it, isn't it?

If TF2 was left alone, would people still be playing it today? TF2 at launch was fantastic. Nothing needed to be changed. The only real enemy of TF2's longevity is the abysmal fucking Source engine.

It's depressing.

It really was. All it needed was consistent updates with more maps and modes. The balance wasn't perfect, but it was very good. Now there are so many game breaking items to take into account that it is impossible to balance it, and all the classes have lost their uniqueness and become jack of all trades.

Jesus, it's like someone forced all the people in a normal TF2 server to appear in one space.

It's been dead since 2011, where the fuck have you been?

>Pyro barely fucking worked and his flamer's particles were fucked up (and STILL AREN'T FIXED)
There was definitely need for change. But it didn't need to be as drastic or retarded as Valve's class updates ended up being.

If all the servers are so fucking bad, host your own.
It takes like 25 minutes if you don't want any custom maps.

Holy fucking shit. It didn't even feel that long.

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First class updates were in 2008, cosmetics were introduced in 2009, Mannconomy was in 2010, and by 2011 we had F2P. It's a been a while since TF2's been fucked up.

I stopped playing altogether around 2012-2013. I shudder to think about what they've done to it since then.

I hardly lived them in the first place because they were always fucking full.

It was still playable. Everyone on here has a different standard for when TF2 became absolute cancer. For me, personally. It's either the Spy vs Sniper update or the scout update.

The saddest thing is all the attempts at vanilla TF2 just die off. Not even talking TF2C. TF2 had multiple attempts to make servers with no bullshit. Unfortunately the tempt of hats and loss of crutch items usually made them die off pretty fast.

Scout's mother looks like a whale, makes sense since she gave birth to 8 kids.

That's what she said.

in any game

why would you subject yourself to tf2 when the objectively superior game is one purchase away? come home, user

I want to purchase this and CS 1.6, how active is it? I love how Valve still keeps these old games alive, say what you want about them but that is pretty cool.

Depends on the region. CS will always be popular so you dont need to worry about that.

I'll never forgive valve for removing their community servers

i just shitpost and micspam/dj on skial deathrun constantly

literally the only server i play on, lenny face is a small price to pay for the fun i have there

Then again, TF2 has been utter shit after Medic Update. None of these new weapons should've been in the game that had very carefully crafted balance between different classes. The game would've been way better off with just new modes and maps.

The embedded video is an excellent example of Valve first making something really neat and then fucking it up with shit like hats.

Then again, Gaben wouldn't have made all that mad dosh otherwise.

The moral of this story is that everything dies in the end. But don't cry, because there will always be something new to replace what dies. Eventually someone decades from now will write a book about this game, its development, release, early years, peak years, decline, and death. You'll be an old man reading that book and fondly looking back on it all.

Like what? As of right now there is no class based shooter as good as TF2 was. inb4 fucking overwatch, I could list a shit ton of reason as to why it isn't

CS:GO is so shit lots of people who played the older counter strikes never stopped. IT's pretty active.

>tfw there's a documentary being made about TF2's competitive community

What is this?

Nevermind. Yeah, I might check out TFC some time.

the only thing that could save tf2 at this point is more cute anglo girls

It's very different from TF2 mind you.

My soul hurt reading that

What the fuck value is there in that? Who the hell wants a documentary of what's probably one of the most stale and self-righteous competitive scenes right alongside Super Smash Bros. Melee's? When fucking Robin Walker says he doesn't look at comp TF2 games anymore because it's stale your scene has a goddamn problem. Same goes for the collective effort to try and enforce their own comp weapon/taunt blacklists onto the in-game matchmaking system matchmaking being cancer or no, it was a huge slap to the face for the comp scene that Valve completely ignored their input on weapon blacklists and I'm glad for it

There's Fortress Forever, that's free. Not many players, though. I remember teaching some kid to bunnyhop when we were the only ones playing.
We should set up a Holla Forums server for that, the game is easily accessible since it's free.

That's the entire point; the Melee documentary partially revitalized the Melee scene and I imagine this is meant to do the same. That and it's another ego stroke for these people

i never understood this pic

I hope you're right since the average comp match is a 6s snore-fest of soldiers and medics with optional demomen. Only thing that got them to get out of that hugbox was a lot of tactics being opened up by the chance to comp blacklists adapting to Valve's matchmaking allowing all weapons, save for some goofy exceptions like how Fists of Steel are banned because soldiers don't want to deal with having to switch to their melee to take out the useless heavy with 750 HP vs. ranged sources.

the meta has been scout, scout, soldier, soldier, medic and demo for ages and it gets boring quick. Play Highlander if you want fun comp.

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Tell that to the Mario kart devs.

2d team fortress simulator is all what we got.

yeah fucking grenade spam.

No, it needs antioxidents.

Yes, user. The human forearm is precisely 10cm long.
Go hold a gun to your head in the mirror and see how it looks. Then fire.

pre-emptive tl;dr, TF2 hasn't really changed at all since it went downhill, but what did change is the scale of its pathetic existence. If this doesn't surprise you then I saved you a read.

Nothing has really changed except people are now so bad that there were maybe 6 decent players that stuck out from all of the (full) servers we played on, including revolving door ragequit/joiners. All the old problems with massive f2p newbs still exist like 3 spies being on the losing team and they all have single digit scores. What shocked me the most is how bad everyone is cumulatively. Required zero effort to win. Tempted to keep playing as solo but I doubt it would be much different as my friends and I rarely coordinate.
P.S. the scoreboard no longer shows your exact ping, just a symbol like on a phone you would see to indicate wifi. The game now asks if you wish to volunteer to join the other team when autobalancing. Facestabbing still exists and it's wonderful and still makes people upset.

Admittedly vanilla TF2 needed fixes and balance changes. Maybe you didn't play at launch?

I would agree if they actually balanced the weapons. Most melee weapons are straight upgrades and some weapons are more frustrating than the vanilla weapons.

TF2 matches are now 4v4 with 16 other retards

the heck is this continuing consolisation?

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That's the side effect of "always up-to-date with no option to downgrade" games.

Why do people think games need "casual matchmaking" is what games need? A server browser with official servers was all that TF2 needed since it was quick and painless, but ever since the recent update Valve completely ruined TF2 since finding a match takes forever and most of the community servers I found were either crits on all the time or fucking achievement/trade idles.

Its the same thing with Overwatch since the "Quick Play" matchmaking is a joke and can happen either instantly or take minutes to find a match and trying to use it in other modes is even worse. I cannot understand why a server browser is poison to these people.

The last non-harmful major update for TF2, in my opinion, was October 27th's Very Scary Halloween Special in 2011. After that figuratively every single major update was a let down.
If you look at 2011 as a whole it was the last subjectively good year of subjectively good things. If it didn't "die" in 2012, it only lasted 'til 2013. First TF2 gone shit, then Portal 2: The Sequel Nobody Asked For came out and ruined the original game for me, then CS:GO, then Dota 2 and that's just Valve.
Ultimately, I think Valve just fails to understand it's own community and tend to listen to one side only. Take any of their multi-player games as an example. They're never being played only by one category of players. Counter-Strike isn't being played by "serious" players only, many people play it for such fan-made game modes like Surf, Bunny Hop, Climb, JailBreak, Zombie Escape, simple casual vanilla game modes on custom maps and god knows what else. Same goes for TF2.
I know how Holla Forums can hate any person who's somewhat famous, but for me personally, Jerma985 put it better than anyone: youtube.com/watch?v=DDwhtPHJXZE&t=1m32s.
But all that is kinda besides the point. What I want to say is that games like Quake, Counter-Strike or Day of Defeat can be easily "re-made" by fans and called "spiritual successors". These games don't have much uniqueness in terms of style or aesthetics. Team Fortress 2 on the other hand… Yeah.
It's not hard to make another Team Fortress - hell, people've been doing it since the release of the original mod - it's hard to make another Team Fortress 2 because of the unique style, aesthetic and all the characters.
So, I kinda wanted to hear user's opinion on the matter. How would you feel about fan-made-non-cancerous-all-issues-fixed Team Fortress 2 spiritual successor with similar but different characters and aesthetics?

Aside from them changing that to be a thing there is a easy way to change it back in options and I always forget it exists till someone reminds me.

Really TF2 was improved by it's updates but only up to a certain point. You really can't stuff an endless amount of content into a game, it'll die out sooner or later.

That being said, it's probably the last game of it's kind and I don't see any like it coming out any time soon. Everyone would play it, and you could load up a server for hours upon hours of uninterrupted mindless fun. There wasn't any superfluous point system on top, the game didn't make you stare at a screen where credits trickle in, and you didn't have to wait minutes for a fucking game.

I swear I feel like the games today make you stare at a menu half the time you're in them. The matchmaking is almost always a shitpile. The amount of customization in TF2 seems mindblowing now, you could use your own image as a spray for free, or host a server and create your own community for crying out loud. Sure it meant some communities would turn into utter tumors, but you'd find your own isolated group of people that you enjoy playing with every single day. That just won't happen anymore now.

You can't anymore?

You can. The problem is that many servers disable sprays. You can see your own spray but nobody else can.
You might be confusing it with CS:GO. Yes, there you can't make sprays for free.

There's some community projects for TF2, but since they need Valve's permission (which looking at their state right now, is most likely to be ignored) to actually implement the stuff they want, the chance of that happening is really slim

I want this meme to stop

Holla Forums actually cared about TF2, just look at their catalog. Most of the time is spent on Zhanna or the administrator of course

You could change it, but it is still a dumb as fuck move in the first place

excerpt from a Steam forum thread about why 6v6 bans alot of stuff
This shit is just absurd

What? i can see sprays of other people in casual matches, what are you talking about? I think it's just that people don't use sprays nowadays as much as before

From what I recall in CS:GO, you can only use preset sprays from crates and shit, and you can only use 50 sprays before you have to pay up.

You can get em from drops but still, it's a really jewish move
who the fuck want these? this is fucking worse than putting stickers on your guns, alteast those stay forever

also meant to embed more shit related to TF2's Frontline

Huh, I guess Valve decided to allow sprays on their casual match-making servers. Back when there was the Quick Play button, official Valve servers had sprays disabled. Non-official servers have them disabled pretty often too. Mostly because many people dislike seeing animated furry porno on the wall. If I recall correctly servers like skial still allow them.

Yeah. Before that the game had no sprays at all. Later some smartass on YouTube (youtube.com/watch?v=H2yZOuh8wQ4) decided to make a video about what a great idea would it be to add pre-made sprays into the game, sell them for real money and make them limited. You can say that Valve listens sometimes.

Just about all the bans in 6s are purely to cater to soldiers who don't want to deal with new tactics or learn how new weapons for other classes work– refer to my earlier mention about a ban for the Fists of Steel, rooted entirely in comp types considering changing to melee whatsoever "a waste of time" and therefore banning the gloves because they'd have to deal with a rather useless heavy with 750 hp against rocket launchers– all the shitfits from competitive types on the Steam forums when it was officially decided to whitelist loads of shit because Valve was not going to cater to the competitive scene for the official matchmaking (along with the other comp types who were absolutely delighted at all the newly available weapons being a breath of fresh air) was absolutely exhilarating to see.

It's goddamn baffling how many changes to the game and how it works made by the competitive scene are just to cater to fucking soldier.

If you had to pick one hat that you like out of tf2, which would it be? I want to check something.

Man i really fucking miss posting hentai gifs on Mario_Kart (near the RED base)

This is just pathetic, i mean how much can you ban unlocks just to make the soldier's tactics and role consistent? But i for one, am really fucking glad not to dabble in 6s because of how strict and no-fun it seems to be, not to mention the stupid obsession of metas

How about, all of them

One is not enought, user.
But if you want me to play by the rules I would say it's Brütal Bouffant.

Man, MARIO_KART is so much fun if you're playing with the right people. Really enjoyed fucking around on servers with achievement_ maps back in 2010. Can get quite cancerous but as long as the players are old enough the fun is guaranteed. Especially if the map is good and has some secrets.

It'll stop when current TF2 isn't a retarded mess in both mechanical and aesthetic design. Launch TF2 wasn't perfect - far from it - but it was a hell of a lot better than the shit we have now (which still has plenty of issues from launch TF2).

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It is, but i'm going to go with opinion. If TF2 doesn't have new shit, it would probably died out faster compared to as now, which at this point is currently a zombie

But really, the only time i had fun playing achievement maps is where the one that had some sort of an assembly line that sucks up respawning people and walking them into a furnace unless you get out.
also

I find it really fucking weird that I spent so much time on achievement_idle doing anything but idling.
That faggot Errant Signal is right - TF2 is where you go to meet your friends, Overwatch is the thing you do with yout friends.

You're not wrong anons. It had a good run for a while.

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Pardner's Pompadour and/or Hound Dog, love me the Elvis hats and I cobbled together a Space Dandy engi with the pomp.

6s are primarily strict and no-fun because of the competitive scene and the cliques within, when playing with friends or much looser circles that don't start autistically shrieking at the mere mention of a team that doesn't involve Soldiers or deviates from 2scout-2soldier-1medic-1demo it's a blast. It's just the faggoty comp players at fault.

Always wanted to try Highlander but haven't gotten around to it, compounded by Valve's refusal to actually incorporate the game-mode into competitive matchmaking. Last I checked the option of 9v9 is still in the list but is grayed out and can't be selected.

Yeah, as anons said, some servers still let you, but some don't, and I've seen sprays being phased out since Portal 2. It's one of those features that you'll never see in games ever again, because it can be monetized and sometimes 'abused'.

Gaming's trying to be competitive but at the same time kid-friendly, so everything's just turning into a giant shitpile

It reminds me how I popped in TF2 a week ago and scored 30 kills as a medic in one round. In addition to taking care of any sentry with crusader's crossbow. I didn't get to heal anyone since everyone was just bumrushing each other and died instantly

Would this have been a bad thing? I'd rather a good game stay good and only fast a few years than seeing a good game progressively become worse and worse for almost a decade.

Besides, had Valve simply worked on new modes and maps while just fixing classes rather than drastically trying to shake up the game's balance with unlocks or put all their focus into extra monetization with the cosmetics shit, it certainly would have lasted for quite a while, probably even until now.

And people still fall for this shit

Yeah fuck that

Teek is still up, by the way. One of the only non-brony community servers that still fills with regulars weekly.

Because people find a favorite server and keep going there. A community forms, people say hi to each other, bond with each other, inside jokes are made etcetra.

It's the same reason why couch coop is phased out on console and everybody sit by themselves. Entertainment is supposed to waste your time and subvert you. It's not supposed to make you feel part of something.

They love it when you are matched with 14 year olds, pajeets, niggers, and generally horrible people so that you can play another payload match with 4 engineers and 4 spies on offense and wonder why you can't make it past the first checkpoint.

I remember the mods being complete shit. I kept getting banned constantly from those servers.

I remember when I got banned from lotusclan servers across multiple games just because I was in another steam group that gave you server bonuses if you joined. They lifted the ban five days later after I made an account on their shitty forum, left a message in their "ban appeal" thread, and left the group. Looking back, I have no idea why I put in so much fucking effort to play on a few TF2 servers filled with furries and squeakers.

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Played since the medic update where the game had a free weekend.

Eternal free weekend.

nevermind, i'm an idiot. also 3360 hours.

I got bored. Also, I got banned from my first account when I saw there were crit hacks that were public.
:^)

You can change that in configuration though

>most servers started being politically correct
>one of the few servers that still allows plays to be shitlords is the furry pound
>valve keeps releasing updates that breaks tf2 on linux
gaben pls, I just wanted to have fun and be a shitlord while enjoying muh freedums

Valve servers aren't politically correct.

Valve servers were full of shitters last time I checked.

you're really desperate if you have to resort to 2017 TF2 for fun

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There were more human players for Gang Garrison 2 than Fortress Forever for a span of about three months. Let that sink in.

What went…. right?

what went wrong?

It's doing better than tf2classic and Fortress Forever, but the Overwatch faggots keep shitting on that game last time played it.

Really? Do they have LAN finally o I can pirate this shit and see what the fuck the big deal is?

Sort of. It's still in PTR and just for custom games.

We still should play it, it's a great game it needs more players.
Though, Holla Forums are casual babby ubishit and oyveywatch players so that won't happen.

But even then though with Valve's recent matchmaking push its not like it makes you want to find games that way since it takes fucking forever, I thought the point of matchmaking was when you just wanted to jump into a game quick. It may waste time, but it sure as fuck doesnt severt me and on top of the pointless leveling system it made me reach for the uninstall button.

I wonder why scout never did get the nail gun. It would make dealing with pyros a lot easier.

what, it doesnt just leave you on the same server any more?
the worst thing about all these tf2 clones was the addition of severe down time and now they have added it to tf2?

praytell what have they done to the server browser?

You may as well play pachishit.

This, hilariously, has lead to the server being largely absent of furries somewhat often, as people go there just to play one of the few "normal" servers left.

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servers running the usual gamemodes became mental masturbation after a while, just something to do that didn't require any thinking
freak fortress servers still remain somewhat entertaining, but due to some obscure bug that emerged some months ago, depending on the texture quality settings the game crashes sooner or later
at recommended settings, the game will crash a few seconds into a round, at low, it might survive a minute or two before crashing with "out of address space or texture quality setting is too high"
which only seems to happen on freak fortress servers
so the only game mode that was still kind of fun is no longer accessible due to a bug that nobody else seems to have and valve doesn't seem to care about

I bought it on release and I have only a bit over 300 hours.

I play it intensely, then get sick of it and wait a couple years before playing again.

They've had free weekends user, if you wanted to try the game without feeding Blizzard's jewry.

tfw i still enjoy the game

The only people that still actively play CS 1.6 are poor South Americans.

It's pretty sad to know that, TF2 in all it's cancerous glory right now, is still the best current gen class-based multiplayer shooter on the market.

The server browser is still there
It's just that the community servers (which they only host) are 90% shit

nigger what are you trying to say?

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youtube.com/watch?v=a67Ttm_OxJg

How does it feel to be retarded?
I can start up the game right now and find servers hosted in my US-East city and play a whole game where pings don't go over 50.

Its like the fucking McDonalds of video games. Its shit but its there and its enjoyable.

Still a better option than all the waves of imitators to boot, even with its numerous problems and dying community.

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i never got why people were so afraid of the mute button if something annoyed them

I'd say it's like the Domino's, they're at least trying to be relevant even though they fuck up at every second.

I can't believe they actually used Gmod for that pic, I though that was SFM the whole time.

what the fuck happened?

If its a custom map it was probably poorly optimized. Also the game has become bloated as fuck, but since only one map is loaded into RAM at a time the games bloat should be negligible to your actual game performance unless you have next to no RAM in which case the game is going to be making a lot of page reads/writes.

yeah that analogy makes more sense. i wouldnt compare tf2 to the greasy cardboard that is mcdonalds

TFP used to have consistently strong players and the atmosphere was always one of the best as long as you could tolerate the degeneracy, almost always full of people. Now all the regulars are pretty much gone to greener pastures and the valve servers have the skill ceiling of a rotten tomato that has been sitting back of a walk in fridge at a taco bell for 6 months.

I really do miss the game.

test

You can take absolutely 10/10 Gmod screenshots if you know what you're doing. Those random wallpaper in gmod's main menu is made in gmod (obviously) but gmod is way more wonky and needs more technical skill in animating the props compared to SFM, so i think that's why there are less Gmod animator these days since SFM is easier to use.

Also does anyone got anymore of these MvM silhouttes wallpapers

Does anyone remember when tf2 was considered into a ytp source? good days good days.

That's why there are porn artists making profit out of mediocre software.

>You'll never enjoy a overpowered new weapon with friends while wiping the enemy team out over and over because they have no idea how to deal with it I miss when the backburner first came out
Also the Halolz site seems to be broken, feels bad, I know it's full of cheesy old memes but those grew with the game

Where did that go? I only got to play it a few times, then everything disappeared.

Died of feature bloat and admin autism.

After playing for a few years and getting around 1400 hours in it, i got pretty bored of it and just stopped playing it one day. But a few weeks ago i saw it in my folder and thought "eh, why not"
I honestly think it is still one of my favorite games to this day.
I can understand not liking all of the updates and the shit cosmetics, but even so i had actual fun with the game when i played it, and its so easy to just look get in and play a match
I mean most people that play the game right now are fucking retarded, and pubstomping isnt THAT fun, but when i get a match where most players are good and the match is even, i still very much love playing the game
But theres also aside from the game the community is mostly fucking shit with reddit kids spamming their "funny" lines in chat

Anyone know what happened to Fortress Forever?

It was made after the announcement that TF2 would be cartoonish by a bunch of salty TFC'ers. It had nice things like conc-jumping and all that autism that we don't get to enjoy in TF2.

TF2 was great the first few years, but now they ruined it completely. I'm not going to go on the TFC servers and play with a bunch of bots.

Fuck, it's been a while. I remember frequenting their server all the time back in the day.

Alphafag killed enthusiasm for it here, devs killed it themselves by focusing on features that had nothing to do with "classic" TF2 or lost beta elements (4-team multiplayer, DM Mode, "Espionage" aka not Trouble In Terrorist Town).

Reminder that this was the lead of the mod until late last year - a teenage tranny furfag.

It got a big Steam release a year or two back. It was active for a few months but I don't think it has any active servers now.

How that colossal fuckup happened is beyond me. I lost all interest the second that "classic" became "lets add in this slew of half baked beta features, who doesn't want to play 4-team games on a game with a usual playerbase of 20?"

do you play comp mode? need a duo que?

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I remember download it and it was deader than a nigger in Florida, last time I google it; the UrBANdictionary was shitting on the community.

Most of the devs had trouble with Steam, that's why they quit, hell even the guy who was making Meet the Mercenary video unlisted his WIP. Or ask the Puppet Scout he knows what the fuck happened.

I though that was a fucking pyro, wtf

Every time I play competitive I literally only win. It got boring doing 6v6 and never losing and having to play that one shitty game mode over and over again so I just started to play casual payload.

Because 6v6 is garbage and I like playing engineer. Competitive is a joke anyway.

Just how competitive is competitive?

Those people are fucking garbage, but if you compare melee to tf2, how dare you insult the name of tf2.

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Props to the engie with the nemesis symbol over their helmet.

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It's one of the few poses that I'm actually proud of making, even when it was just a quick gmod pose to shitpost with in an old tf2 thread here

My first ever tf2 expierence was in a surf server. I was still an idiot who cannot read English well so I never know what is what and any servers that isn't the surf map made the game unplayable because I was using a toaster. After upgrading I've been having loads of fun. My favorite were lego blasters with their rat maps and furry pound because of their strangely welcoming community (until people started posting their fetish). But after a while I just stuck with lotus clan shit servers because the others are either dead or cancer. Then stopped using lotus because they're actually shit and uses bots most of the time/fake player numbers. Then just stuck to valve servers due to the rampant fear of servers give you viruses due to ads like dolan pot o gold bullshit till meet your match hit and I stopped. Most of the time I stay in an Arabic server till they change to Hightower because once ANY SERVER change to Hightower it will be fucking cancer with people use it as a "death match" map and never actually pull the carts

TF2C resurrection when? TF2C servers that aren't run by complete cancer when? Seriously, I consider Alphablaster's server as a prime example on how Holla Forums ruins everything good.

How does not being able to read English well make you an idiot?

possibly better off playing TF2 1.0.0.5

I was a kid who never really bothered to read English unless it's for studying or become the family translator. Right now I can read English without going "ugh English is boring I only want to read it in school" because improving my English is my first step on being a full time English translator for my family and visiting cool places

Honestly aside from the cancerous community, ban-happy admin and constant micspam, the maps that TF2C featured were poorly-constructed. 4 different teams when the engine doesn't even let the spy disguise as those 4 is way too confusing and hectic. Better off playing TF2 on the Xbox.

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And that too, but that will take super long time.

Talking to native English speakers on the internet is what polished my English the fastest.

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not fast enough…

Idling most likely

You could though? You just had to press the switch team disguise button while as spy and it would let you cycle between the four teams to disguise as. The problem was the fact TF2C focused on everything but what made old TF2 good, especially when the dev team started adding in extra items to the game which went against the whole point of old TF2 and then ran off to work on gamemodes nobody wanted.

There is TF2007 or something like that which is the first build of the game. If someone forked TF2C by removing the inventory, the 4 team and DM gamemodes and defaulted the settings to the vanilla settings instead of the shitty modern balancing it could be fun. I think it used to be open source a while ago but not anymore after the albino and tranny ruined the game with bad design decisions.

>>>/cow/239854

And to think that I was thinking of trying and making a 4-way 5cp map back in the day - thank goodness I never went through with my ideas, it would've been a waste.

Yeah that could be idling.

I have 1200 hours pure gametime with maybe 20 hours idle.
Started at march 31, 2008 (soldier of fortune badge) till the f2p update killed it.
I played lastly a few months ago for a few hours but now it's unplayed in my library.

Valve is low key hyping the next update to be the biggest update yet, I do hope it can give me this childhood wonder and fun of events like the hatless update, spy vs sniper update or the best one; the war update!

Abandon hope user

Let me be optimistic dammit

I'm there with you user, I'm genuinely hopeful that the dev team will make a great update. Don't give up hope.

unbalanced

But it was called Maget Engie

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but user. All the weapons have advantages and disadvantages which means that the game is perfectly balanced and so having a billion weapons that cause tactics to become invalid as every fight is down to luck and the game runs like complete shit
IT'S SO MUCH BETTER
MORE SHIT MEANS BETTER GAME

THIS IS WHAT PEOPLE ACTUALLY BELIEVE
PEOPLE ACTUALLY BUY HATS AND MADE IS FAR MORE SUCCESSFUL THAN VALVE COULD HAVE EVER EXPECTED
THIS IS YOUR FAULT

God damnit.

When will classic FPS come back to us? I just want to join servers and tool around with fun people in a video game again. Getting shoved into random servers with randoms sucks dick, you can't make friends if you don't have regulars.

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I will give Valve the credit they are due. Engineer is a lot more fun to play than he was at launch

And all of that "fun" comes at the cost of butt-fucking game balance and class definition. Well done indeed.

It aint rocket surgery user

noice

I'm not an American, nor British or any kind of Anglo and I can speak English perfectly.

They just dont want lose players because Community servers die and rot. remember then TF2 hate a 400k-850k players as common? Now are only 20k-45k. Real TF2 death soon.

>nearly completely eschewing your entire ability to hold areas for mediocre frontline support
>literally all those involve area denial
You're right, they pretty much all undermine it.

Its called trading survivability for the ability to be more aggressive and hold ground on the front line AKA area denial

Slower building in exchange for access to more resources and an easier escape

High-risk high reward play buddy. Once you got a decent nest set up, it takes seconds to get your gun back up to level 2, which is all you really need since it has the same hitscan DPS as 3, just sans rockets.

Are you one of those retards that think that turtling is only form of area denial?

tfw i stopped because i cannot start it since the Gun Mettle update

You tried Sfm but the fucking thing crashed and now you have to stick to GMod if you want to do your tf2 pictures.

same can be said for the medic

I remember seeing those in tumblr, surprisingly with a decent amount of notes

Does TF2 still require 10+ GB to install?

almost 20.

When was last time we got one of these.

Thank you Satan. I wish I could contribute something, I love these

Cannot find the one where a kid gets mad for being called adopted.

Nah the fucking text are tiny and doesn't scale in 4K screen

How fucking stupid/assmad do you have to be in order to say something so idiotic?

It's far much better than salty scouts who will demand to get kicked or rage spy on you

I swear i recognize that blue scout laying on the ground, but i can't remember it.

Not completely, it provides different forms of area denial of varying effectiveness. However, these alternate playstyles exist exclusively based on the loadout you go with, which is probably why you believe they run contrary to the Engy's typical role. Personally I'd rather they try and introduce alternate playstyles more naturally, adding onto the classes and diversifying them without alternate loadouts - while the Engineer and Medic have had fairly decent or innocuous unlocks, nearly every other class' unlocks have high potential to drastically shift focus on how the classes are being played.

what the fuck:
systemrequirementslab.com/cyri/requirements/team-fortress-2/10667

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What are you even talking about?

looked at steamcharts for tfclassic, is it actually that dead (20 or so players average) or is it populated fairly well?

Over 2 years ago

Remember when ppl started adding custom tf2 characters into gmod, like the civilian or the nicolas guy?

Looking at the Overwatch side, it doesn't have the charm but it's saturated, like kids telling a girl to kill herself.

Now that I can't recall.

Oh, Smissmas guy?

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poor TF2. I used to love you so dearly.

peace and love ot all the fighting amphibians.

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yeah those characters from the tf2 comics, nowadays is only Overwatch, MMORPGs and sometimes Undertale. (For some reason the Fnaf fags stopped with their shitshow)

I just want a TF2 server with hats disabled and normal fucking game modes. Fucking hell TF2C wasn't even cancer because of the drama it was because it was shitty 4 team game modes with literal fucking meme guns. I wish I could make a server but I just have my shitty laptop.

It's a shame, I would have liked to host something if the game wasn't so goddamn dead

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Literally only the first class update, for the medic, improved balance. Every patch since then has made the game worse.

No?
I mean unless you're talking set bonuses in polycount, I think everyone can kind of agree that was a stupid idea, and nerfing the bison because 6s fags think it's OP.

If you like stock TF2 so much, why don't you play the console version?
:^)

That's some real bold claim there buddy, do you even fucking know how different it was compared to now?

and nerfing the bison because 6s fags think it's OP.
You can't be serious, i'm sure you're just making shit up. Comp fags are all no-fun faggots anyways, esp. the soldiers
Also i hate how they nerfed the two most underpowered miniguns the heavy has by having the damage reduction only active when you are under 150HP (which is fucking useless since you can't tank hits in the first place dummy, see also: Blue Tearstone Ring in Dork Souls)

Dude, I don't like stock tf2 I just think that a plugin that forces stock hat colors is appreciable since paint is gaudy on 99% of paint enabled hats.
And yes I'm serious about the 6s thing, the TF Team have gone to them of all people for advice on how to balance the game.
The guys who increased the pyro airblast delay so a pyro can't just reflect every rocket back at a soldier/demo because 89% of the top players are soldiers that don't want to account for airblast.

Are you talking like, custom server models?

Ahhh yes, i agree with painted items being 'tacky' but most of the time i don't see them using it though, bar the occasional Lime green scout with an unusual, pardon for lumping you with the Vanilla-fags
Fuckking what
Holy fucking shit, no wonder the game gets even flushed down the drain even more* with the Meet Your Shitty update. First the absolutely balance breaking fixing Tough Shit update, then the Halloween update which is wow it's fucking nothing** but holy shit i could not thought that they can't stoop even lower just to appeal to some no-fun faggots that doesn't even comprised of 10% of TF2's playerbase
Really? i don't really see any delays whatsoever, but quick guggle search shows that there are faggots that wants it to have more delay into it, what a bunch of scrubs.

I bet you used the DR you shitty baugette

and i fucked up the spoilers
end my fucking life

You're retarded and autistic.

THIS.

Its the teambalance that really killed TF2.
Not the hats or the special weapons or the new maps and game modes.

But the fact that you have such a gulf between the useless spasticated play for free noobs, and the people who have been playing since the start. Nobody wants to be the one good player leading a team of screaming kiddys who are all playing their own individual games.

I have never tried matchmaking because of a server issue. But the most balanced games were always on community servers with a large enough base of skilled players. Often if the teams were unbalanced a good player or two would switch to the losing team just so they could challenge themselves.

I thought it was dead already, you can only get so much mileage out of an online game and TF2 is 10 years old already.

Unusual hats can look nice, I mean I'm not just saying that because I have like 20, but a lot of the older effects are nice.

I've contemplated hosting a TF2 server that just runs like one of the Valve Community servers did. No stupid admin mod shit, no alltalk, no sekritclub private server crap, just the game. Now you can just play on a server that has all the things I just mentioned or a match-making one.

Ummm, I'm talking about gmod addons.

There are still playing it, but they probably get bored of it and start doing something else.

RIP snackshack, weeabootique, necrophix, ect.

I can't find anything to replace it so I still play it regularly and many of the movement mechanics and classes still stand as perfect. Removing of course things like non-tide turner shields, booties, airblast, and god fucking dogshit hit registration aka. silly bullets/magnetic bullets

Well are you going to host it or not? If so, then post the IP Address and maybe some (okay, maybe a few) anons that is still playing this zombie game will jump in

It still has 50k players daily, it is still in the top ten of Steamcharts ever since 2011 and i don't think it will be dying soon
But internally, yes it is dead, both in a creative sense and support-wise

And why the fans are still creating shit for it on the workshop.

Found the Scunt main.

What i mean was that Volvo themselves stopped adding shit to the game, but the community had already fallen in love with TF2's unique artstyle, characters, and 'lore' that they just want to add more shit into the game, like those community updates some fans want to add into the main game

Also forgot to add that Valve themselves have ruined the original artstyle for TF2

Yeah, but that was the reason why Gamebanana exists, until fucking sv_pure 1 was added

Don't fucking remind me
Don't remind me too about how quickplay rolled the community servers, and now thanks to the Meet Your Shitty update Valve gave to us, good community servers are nowhere to be seen, it's just 24/7 2fort and shitty cp_orange maps.
Also RIP Trade maps

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The only thing that i enjoy from tf2 now are shitty gmod machinimas.

Some people made decent SFM shorts, if you ignore the crappy 'drama' ones that is
Go watch them, like now

Well this is embarrasing, I mean to write "underpowered" because Heavy fucking sucks and has sucked since launch. Hadn't noticed that goof until now

Then again he was pretty fucking annoying when Natascha first dropped, so maybe he hasn't "always" sucked.

It doesn't matter if the fanmade mod it's a masterpiece, Valve stopped giving a shit about their game and they won't add it, even if the company is on the board to bankruptcy.

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I mean they did just rip off a futurama episode though.

But the tomislav user, why would you want to use anything but the tomislav, the tomislav is the only weapon that the heavy should be using, long live the tomislav
t. vulva

I thought that was the sequel.

I think the proper word is 'on the road to bankruptcy pal.
But really, the chance of Valve going to bankruptcy?
Nil
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They made way too much money, and that is why they never cared anymore about making / updating their vidya

HHHNNGGGGG
never gets old
Why can't companies do this when some ragtag group of amateurs able to accomplish it?

Simple the company is doing it for money, while the amateurs are doing it for the sake of art.

One of you faggots needs to set up a TF2 serb so we can all play without obnoxious lime green unusual + Aussie weapon shits, F2Ps, and all around general faggots found in public servers

I doubt anyone here has an austrailium, or an unusual.

Have you seen the 8/v/ steamgroup? There's a reason people always mock them.

I was being facetious as well. Can't you be bothered to check user ids? Or is that above the poor and irish?

Nigger I'm not gonna read through your whole post history before replying.

I'll make it easier for you.
I have many unusuals you dunce

I know, I went back and read it when you pointed it out. You should be ashamed for supporting valve's jewery.

But user I didn't

Let me guess you scammed kids out of their keys and traded up? Either way, you're part of the reason valve has been resting on their hat money for years now.

Maybe, but I still have nicer hats than you do, and I am probably better at the game as well.

Fuck off. And maybe if someone hosted a server we would see who's better.

I would crush your tiny baby man body, even with 600 ping.

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Looking for hosting providers. I want to run a few other games to. I'd like to run this out of the house with a fiber connection, but that's about a year away.

Fucking retard

They'll never make me hate TF2, but LORD do they try.

Your hats aren't good if they're not contradicting themselves.

Fuck friendlies. Fuck 'em. They honestly think they're actually improving the game by being a bunch of god damn fucking faggots. Don't get me wrong, if they want to dick around and shit I don't mind, they should just do it in their own servers, but no. Come to a server where people are just trying to play and whine when I kill you. Last time, they actually had the balls to tell my team to kick me because
Of coarse he tried to get "revenge" on me before promptly rage quitting the game.
Tl;dr friendlies trigger me.

Friendlies make pretty good cannon fodder if you use them right. Either they'll lure someone on the other team into becoming friendly, or be a meat shield if you position them.

Friendlies make for easy domination and achievement fodder, I make a point of it to single out those stupid cunts every time they try and enforce le epic pootis sandvich parties on a server that's actually playing. They also make for fantastic disguises if you're playing Spy, just crouch as a """friendly""" enemy heavy and meander around the enemy base until somebody comes into sights.

Okay, fair point, they ARE at least useful for that.
That's actually pretty smart user, thanks for the tip!

No joke, friendlies are probably the biggest boon to spies to ever come in the game, especially if they're a dangerous-to-spies class like Pyro. Switch to whatever "friendly" weapon they're using via disguise kit, piddle around pretending to be them, score a bunch of backstabs while all of them are distracted or are just thinking "oh it's our retard teammate".

Then you get banned for "trolling" or some other benign shit.

Not even that, like I said, they expect my team to kick me for playing the game. Then again, watching him try to kill me was hilarious.
>Friendly teammate medic never healed our team btw starts highfive taunt so fuck it, I'll do it
It was fucking beautiful.

You can now only votekick players on your team.

How did this cancer start?

That and the "don't cap on hightower" autism. Last time i played hightower on casual matchmaking, those faggots were votekicking anyone who killed the mongos who were dancing in the middle of the track, or if someone tried to cap.

That's what community servers are for.

The game is broken now because of this shit and lone wolf spies and snipers in payload who just fuck around with no consideration to team composition. I.e an offensive team with no real push power. Fucking revolting. Then they call you "tryhard" because you want to play the game as intended and not fuck around with conga all day.

I cant believe this thread has been up for over two weeks.

Its half tempting to form a group who coordinates just to ruin hightower autism

Quiet simple really, over use. The idea that people playing tf2 on both blu and red suddenly all doing a conga line and stop fighting was cute and silly at first because it was RARE, it would be something you hear from a friend or you would come across once and never again. But now? Well, we've all seen them, it's so common now that there is a fucking meta around this sub -culture for lack of a better word. You end up with these retards constantly trying to get this to happen or think they're being funny or not god damn annoying. At least, that's my theory.
I am dead serious when I say this, those people think that high tower should only be played as/is a deathmatch map, not a payload race map. A lot of people played the map because they like rocket jumping (and I guess high tower is good for that) so much that they stopped playing for the objective and it became this weird half-meta that "You are not supposed to cap on high tower". This is something I've heard for 2fort as well, just not as much. By far the most retarded thing about this is that they can rocket jump as much as they want, but why stop people from capping the point? Just let me cap and continue what you were doing when the map resets.

You can become the king of tf2 with some half assed co-ordination from a team, not just hightower.

If you want to harvest salt at Hightower, don't bother with the objective. Just roll engie. The vast majority of players on Hightower are shit like noob spies trying to trickstab (and failing), demoknights, snipers, the ubiquitous Market Gardener/Rocket Jumper/Gunboats "trolldier" and the occasional medic. None of which are geared to take on sentries. (Well, the spies are, but they're too busy trying to trickstab). And given that people play this map as a deathmatch map there will never be a serious uber push.

Also Hightower is laid out in a way that allows you to cover huge amounts of the map with a single sentry which is probably the real reason why no one takes that map seriously.

Thats a good point

RIGHT WING ENGIE SQUADS WHEN?

It's 6v6 only. So it's not very competitive. It's not very fun either. Adding a "competitive" mode is arguably one of the biggest mistake they ever did with the game.

I'm pretty sure the original reason for not capping on hightower was because the next map after it was pipeline, back when map rotations were a thing, and nobody wanted to play it, so everyone agreed to not cap. Now you have people who have no idea why the no capping thing rule existed screaming at people not to cap, even when you can just keep playing the same map once the game finishes. It's fucking ridiculous.

6v6 is a goddamned joke. With only six players per term, half the classes become wasted slots and with such a limited team any sort of advanced coordination goes right out the window. Its for people who confuse DM-skill with teamskill and gamesense who think Scout-Soldier-Demo-Medic and MAYBE heavy are the only classes that should be played.

I decided to give it a go just now and when I started thinking.
I hit tab and immediately left the game, this shit is even worse than friendlies.

That makes sense, I was just giving a guess so you're probably right.

6v6 is a joke because balance in TF2 is a joke. Engineer, Heavy, Sniper, and Spy are all only used situationally, and for the Heavy it's especially shit for a class meant to be on the frontlines. Pyro is rarely ever used at all since he's so badly designed for his original intended role. The gap in power and versatility between top classes like Soldier, Demo, and Scout versus bottom-end classes like Pyro and Heavy is fat too wide.

So I see nothing has changed.

Oh and did I mention red had 2 spies, one of which used a dead ringer?

People don't play highlander because its slow not because of bad balance. Spec classes don't get played because they slow the game down at higher skill levels. Switching to spy or sniper to pick enemy med is great. In 6v6 a heavy med is a pain to push against. The reason you don't see it is because it slows the game down. At the top tiers of play where the meta is created there is a mutual understanding between teams that neither wants to use a spec class because its just going to slow the game down and it stops being fun.

To follow up. All the items bans exist because either the item slows the game down, or counter play slows the game down.

Then why aren't 6s composed entirely of Scouts?
I mean, if the idea is being "fast", why not go for the fastest? That's fun right?

Or, and this is a crazy idea, but hear me out, every cancer-soldier in the comp scene goes back to fucking quake because we kind need players too and leave TF2 to be a game about cooperation, strategy and choices, instead of "Who can move faster"

they probably put it in because that's what's expected now. many newfags and twitchfags only play ranked games, the idea of having to connect to a server isn't something taught in console kiddy land.

like it or not, people want this shit. they want ranked modes with xp and icon changes so that they don't have to build a community and deal with people on servers.

do it faggot, i'm itching to try out some new micspam

What would happen if soldiers were banned from 6s?

Fine then faggot steamcommunity.com/groups/rwingengiesquad

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I thought I was the only one. Nice to see two of you faggots made it out.

Gmod has tools specifically designed for posing. Although it is still not as easy as SFM, it is pretty damn close in terms of functionality. Very few people still actually use the Physgun for precision, only to first get a rough pose before refining it.

What's the deal of the classes doing cameos outside of their game? Is tf2 slowly becoming the super mario?