Where did it all go wrong? Can Duke Nukem be saved, or what is his future?

Where did it all go wrong? Can Duke Nukem be saved, or what is his future?

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He was the hero of a different age.

As long as Gearbox has him he is beyond salvation.

his future is bleak in every way.

He will live on in our hearts, user, they will never be able to take the memories away.
Hail to the king.

BAZINGA

if you just posted the first two I would have fully believed they were real

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But Shadow Warrior managed to get rebooted, and that was possibly from a studio with even less money than Gearbox or 2K. What would even be the point of paying for the rights if all they've done is release Forever and a re-release of a re-release with Duke World Tour?

Is that fucking chris-chan?

1 word.

Gearbox.

BALLS OF STEEL, WHAT IS THAT?

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Was the shadow warrior reboot actually worthwhile?

A proper Duke Nukem in the current climate would instantly produce a feminazi shitstorm of epic proportions because the perpetually offended are too dumb to realize that the Duke is a walking self-parody by design.

Also, Gearbox would have to be atomized in order to free the Duke from his shackles, and his voice actor is a cunt who threw a hissyfit against the fans when the latter complained about Gearbox's remake being shit.


Yes and no. The modern Shadow Warrior - with the "Lol I'm such a nerd I buy comic books XDDDD" Lo-Wang has very little to do with the old "You want to see see Wang wash Wang or you want to wash Wang?" Lo Wang. The younger version by all means has been made as politically correct as possible, barring the mishmash of Chinese and Japanese mythology used in the story.

It went wrong when George Broussard was given the reins of the Duke post-D3D. He was given the George Lucas treatment by his staff, and he squandered any momentum they had by instead sitting on 3DR's forums all day, making blog posts about his Porsche and being an untalented fat fuck in general. DNF was fucked from the get-go because Broussard continually chased the dragon of 3D tech as opposed to making a good game.

He got the idea that he was smarter than John Carmack and John Romero. Except instead of putting out a game of its own character, he copy-pasted segments of other games because he thought that DNF needed those things too. So instead of carving his own path with Duke, he manifested development trends through DNF's development cycle, and we got…well, that.

I would love nothing more than to see a livestream of Broussard getting his shit repo'd, winding up living in a motel before he finally blows his brains out in the bathtub.

You know you're a fuckup when you make Randy Pitchford look good in comparison, when he's just as untalented and undisciplined as Broussard is.

No, he could only exist at a time where adverts like this wouldn't kick up a huge shitstorm. Duke Nukem is of a sensibility that is simply lost in this day and age.

Admittedly I never played the original but I kind of want to since it seems like a Build engine game, and the reboot is kind of boring since it has weak feeling weapons unless you upgrade the fuck out of them.


Or at the very least even devs like Running With Scissors support the hell of their games with a tiny budget, and SW though lackluster was a reboot, how come Gearbox cant even do that or something like Serious Sam HD? They couldnt even add more content to Duke Nukem World Tour, they only did one patch to fix the horrible sound issues and that was it.

Because Duke Nukem World Tour literally was just a cash grab, same as Colonial Marines.

After that other game (Battleborne?) flopped, I think there's in a bit of a tight spot as far as finances are concerned.

not unless bethesda gets the rights to make a new game

No way, they wouldnt think of getting the rights. Would they?

BAZOOPER

Modern developers nor players cant into good level design so classic fps games in general have no hope. I could see Duke's character used in other games though. A Duke themed casino/night club manager might be fun as those things are right up his alley.

Only Dr. Proton can save us now.


The 2D Duke games were great, they could return to that genera. I've thought about doing a DN1 clone for a long time if I just had the skill to agdg.

How hard is it to make good FPS maps? Are they just unable to because of trying to make games with the best graphics or something?

my guess is that the biggest reason is the incompetency of players to follow complex maps and collect color coded keycards. there's also no hardware limitations anymore limiting the map size so you have large but boring maps because developers dont realise that sometimes less is more.

It's because colored keycard hunting became boring after every single fucking doom clone decided to do it for ten fucking years. And the average gamer doesn't have the patience for it. And modern games lack a quicksave which is essential for exploration type fps games with lots of nasty traps, which is what doom was.

Those elements were probably overdone years ago with Doom and Quake clones, but now we have loads of CoD clones and in terms of video games those are horrible.


Maybe its me but some maps in Build engine games honestly feel larger, maybe due to the maze like nature and the fact that there are secrets that actually matter besides just unlock achievements.

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The current climate is quickly changing though. A new Duke game might not be so out of place in next couple of years.

We'll always have Serious Sam.

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From the little I've read, it seems like the problem was that fucking idiot Broussard was a starry-eyed moron who focused more on what other people in the industry were doing than actually working on the game. I remember reading somewhere that it was a running joke among 3D Realms employees not to let Broussard see other games because he would want to add elements from them to DNF.

As for saving Duke and the future of the series, I think Duke is pretty much done at this point. Gearbox will probably tarnish his name so much with poor releases that even if he were given to a competent developer they wouldn't want to risk making a game with Duke because of his reputation as a joke character.

Duke just needs a proper sequel to duke nukem 3D, and then he'll be back on top

Running With Scissors are the only people that could save it but 3D Realms will just sit on it forever.

It can't be saved, i hate the word, but Duke brand is simply too toxic after what Gearbox put him trough.
It's a damn shame as DN up until Forever was similar to Metroid franchise in a way that even the "worst" game in the series was still perfectly okay, it was very versatile and it worked every time, whether it was a fps, or a tps or a side scrolling platformer, it just worked and the games were funny as heck because they came from the heart, Forever and queerbox writing is simply trying to hard and ending up flat on it's face (power armor is for pussies).
And it's also not the usual Journo tripe about him being too out of touch with "modern audience and time", in other words them, it's just that gearbox is a bunch of hacks that couldn't make a well designed game even if their lives depended on it.

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fuuuuuuuck

there was only ever 1 good duke game. the side scrollers are shit, the 1 good game is pretty much an accident.

Epic post.

Why did Randy even buy the rights for the Duke Nukem license anyways? I think he just worked on some maps for the Atomic Edition and that was it, what did he see in it? Hell what was the point of paying who knows how much for the rights when they've only bothered using it around 2016? Devolver Digital was the only one who even did anything with the rights, and they made a version for PS3 and Vita as well. Meanwhile Gearbox took that version off store shelves along with an Android port that was in the works being made by a disabled man if I remember right, barely changed or added a whole lot for a rerelease of Duke 3D, made the simple act of changing through weapons with the mouse wheel incredibly slow, and sold it for $10 more than the Megaton Edition.

I also forgot this masterpiece

He cant be saved, you just know the faggot who owns it is a spiteful retard who wont let anyone have it and would rather take it to the grave.

With how Gearbox is hurting for money since Battleborn flop, are you sure they wont just sell it? Or are they gonna force him into re-releases as "Duke's ____ tour preorder DLC!"?

Because DNF was a meme, unfortunately the end product wasn't even passable, it was just garbage.


He'll be added as a new Battleborn hero soon, screencap this post.

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I know he's being shoehorned into that Bulletstorm remake: do you think it'll be enough to keep Gearbox on life support, or will both they and People Can Fly be in dire straits when it flops?

Considering its just a re-release I doubt it'll be that much of a waste of resources, all they probably had to do was port the PC version to consoles. That being said though I doubt Gearbox would be that effected by it if the port flops, but People Can Fly on the other hand I worry about.

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Randy Pitchford was on the Duke3d developer team so the franchise probably has a bit of sentimental value for him.

Doom 2016 worked well, despite the lack of 10,000 Remnant map support. If id can wrestle Duke from the shekel clutching hands of Gearbox, maybe there's hope.

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What are you newfriends checking? There are no dubs to be found.

Kek, good times

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I bet you check the IDs of TOR users newfag

I wasn't saying they qualify, I was just stating that's what they were checking, you autist.

Trump is going to make The Duke great again!

Seriously, we're about to get rid off all the faggy bullshit and come back with the testosterone filled media again.

How was co-op on Megaton Edition? On World Tour its so broken it makes me wonder how it passed QA.

Gee I wonder who could have been behind this post.

Nope, he can't be saved. Unless croteam somehow got the rights to it.

Never.

if D44M is any indication notBethesda would just make another DNF

I refuse to believe this is real

mods and fangames

Da

it is, they did remove them afterwards i think

oh no they didn't
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Someone explain to me why this franchise is loved by Holla Forums so much?

It was always kinda shit. I played this when I was a teenager and even then I recognised the terrible writing and stupid humour.

Aside from Duke 3D he had no good games, just some shitty sidescrollers, mediocre PSX derivatives of D3D and a clunky third person shooter for the N64.

Duke nukem was always shit.

This

Under Gearbox it only can get worse.

please use archive.is/articles/2011-05-12-duke-nukem-had-gay-robot-sidekick

I think duke nukem is a shitty game but even i understand it was never about that.

it was just about big guns and hot babes.

Good lord, and 3D World Tour was possibly the best thing to come from modern Gearbox.

They were aiming for the gay/fujoshi /clang/ audience?
That's a very niche subgroup.

FUCKING KIKES

JUST