The Winchester 1897's external hammer meant it lacked a trigger disconnector...

Why isn't this in any game?

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Frankly, you could make an FPS where your only weapon was a good shotgun, so long as you put in strong handloading options.

Most versatile weapon ever made, jesus christ.

But what about the bullets/shells?

The Winchester 1897 has a five-round feed mag. Assumedly, with five rounds fired in… maybe three seconds, whatever you were worried about would be dead.

it's obviously talking about cyclical rate of fire.
from goypedia:
This is the mechanical rate of fire, or how fast the weapon "cycles" (loads, locks, fires, unlocks, ejects). Measurement of the cyclic rate assumes that the weapon is being operated as fast as possible and does not consider operator tasks like magazine changes, aiming, etc.

imfdb.org/wiki/Winchester_Model_1897#Video_Games
You're a faggot

none of them lets you slam fire.

Rapid-firing it in Red Dead Redemption using Dead Eye could be seen as using slam fire to do so, at least.

Doesn't red orchestra manual bolting also apply for the american shotgun?

Hold down M1 while mashing R to slam fire. This is not in a single game, and that's a disaster.

bohohoh, maybe they should've thought of that before starting a world war to try and conquer the world.

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Did you study WW1 at all?

yes, did you? the fact that germany started TWO world wars is basic history kid.

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good goy

Germany only started one world war, the first one was started by the Austrian empire and pulled Germany into it as they were allies

History revised 2.0 maybe.

educate urself scrub

everyone below this line is replying to b8

no u

wew lad

that a master baiter like me fell for it astounds me

wrong, the german emperor convinced austria to attack serbia so he could have an excuse to invade the british empire.

wew lad :^)

Lying is a sin, user.

This is like when you fucken destroy some kid in a multiplayer game and they call you a hacker.

well yeah thats pretty much how war crimes are made.

According to the imfdb article for BF1, you can slamfire it.

Shit yeah, love to be able to load hulls with random shit.

Ithaca Model 37's also do this if made before sometime in the 80's. I owned a 37 Featherlight 12ga that could do that. No external hammer either.

You can pump them out nearly as fast as that gif/webm where the guy takes the autoshotgun to the door.

I'm also pretty sure the Model 37 actually appears in several games.

THIS IS BAIT! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, DON'T FALL FOR IT!

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Because shotguns don't spray shot everywhere in real life so you actually have to aim them, making that feature pointless unless you can hold the gun rather steady while pumping it without slowing down your action of pumping the gun.


So long as no one gets any modern body armor. Even a higher end kevar vest that police use now days will stop slugs (though you may get a broken rib) and buckshot will spread the energy out over a larger enough area for broken bones not to be a problem at anywhere past a couple yards, throw in a trauma plate behind the kevlar or swap out the kevlar for a rifle plate and even slugs won't be a problem. If there's no body armor then shotguns with realistic spread tend to be humorously overpowered.

[citation needed]

If this is bait, 8/10, got me and others hooked.

This is obvious bait and all the stupid reddit/pol/ fags fell for it, amazing.

inb4

That shit is cancer too, you all need to fuck off, filthy board immigrants are not welcome.


It would be a nice mechanism to implement, maybe reduce accuracy while slam firing or something like that. It would be as simple as having two firing modes (something we don't get anymore in most modern fps).


Doesn't look like slamfire, seems more like the character quickly presses the trigger rather than holding and pumping.

I'm not from Holla Forums. Germany clearly started WWII, that's no question.
I'm just assblasted that some faggot is here saying that Germany started WWI.

To be fair, they were blamed for starting it in real life too

They didn't. One of them posted that "bait". This is how they shove their agenda down everyone's throats. Kind of reminds me of some other retarded loudmouth group.

Having actually tested this several times with 6 rounds of 12GA 2-3/4" 00-Buck with the Ithaca 37 (5+1 in chamber) it's not exactly well aimed but if you're not too worried about what is behind the target or just need to empty on a door for self defense or something, it can be done very quickly. You just have to understand to hold it securely and kind of pull down.

I was out practicing this before, into a dirt pile at close range, it wasn't too bad. My landlord came over and asked what pistol I was firing (because he heard the shots grouped so closely he assumed it was a semi-auto pistol).

This Ithaca was from 1971 or 1973 I don't remember. Sometime in the 80's lawyers got uppity because its not normal expected behavior for a pump shotgun, and probably some inexperienced hunters overexcited kept their finger clenched after hitting the bird, muzzle swept a buddy, and pumped it.

Maybe so, but Germany got saddled with all the blame and subsequent war debt in the Versailles Treaty.
At the very least, Austria and Serbia should have shared that, if not tossing Germany out altogether.

Here's your (You)
Germany discovered oil in the middle east and they were going to build a railroad. WW1 happened because everyone wanted the oil. Germany got fucked in the end for discovering it.

And there's also a police/riot version that had a larger magazine. It appears in a lot of movies.

Why are you people even replying? Are you fags hoping to end up in one of those "le ebin 8ch screencaps with reacktion faecs XD"?

No, faggot.
I was correcting misinformation, even if it was bait.

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1. Filter poltards, both pretending to be opposition and the regular.
2. Discuss the topic with the actual Holla Forumsirgins.
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4. PROFIT!

is everyone Holla Forums to you?

Probably the same reason the pancor jackhammer is in half of all movies and film.
These people don't understand what makes things cool.

Sure, also some retards get baited and help to derail threads. Not much of a loss.

so what happened was
and both of these parties are Holla Forums to you?

also we are not helping with any derailing problem here

I want newfags to leave

Do you have proof that this retard isn't a poltard pretending to enable all other fags to derail a thread and le XD pill us? Because I've seen this pattern repeat again and again and again and again starting with first half of 2015. This is not literally a Holla Forums with videogames for now so they can't just create their own propaganda threads yet.

And those "everyone" just happen to be to be one and done fags who appear at roughly the same time of the day at least a few days every week which coincides with poleddit shitposting derailing several threads at once. I don't know, user, maybe I overthink things.

See

I was interested in the thread and lurking. I had nothing to contribute. I'm not wasting thread's bumplimit. I'm not helping, but the derailment seems to have stopped for some reason.

Misinformation is the very esence of bait, you stupid retard.


I didn't take the bait, I merely pointed out the intention behind that post on a side comment.


So you be saying *smacks lips* that this is an inside job?


That's what bait does.

Now let's go back to .mp4 related
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that could easily have good slamfire is the gun porn simulator for the Vive. Unfortunately, for what I could see, all the pump shotguns on that
have disconnectors and doesn't let you cock the hammer again until you release the trigger.

Video not all that related.

Because the point has been made clearly you dummy

On topic, why the hell are devs and people so buttmad at automatic shotguns?

Battlefield 1 does this
in fact, they gave it a semi-auto damage model to compensate for its speed.

so you genuinely believe that Holla Forums is orchestrating this?


Because in games where shotguns work like shotguns they are OP as fuck and an automatic shotgun would be automatically OP

because they make assumptions about how easy they are, which are mostly incorrect.

Now they are getting way more common, even with magfed auto/semi-auto.


Only because the whole damage system is crap, specially regarding how armor works on most games. Shotguns are very task specific on actual warfare.

How would slamfire in a video game work in practice? The idea in real life is that you can fire as fast as you can pump, but in a video game pumping is usually handled right after you fire. Would it be how fast you can click I'm sure most of the people here can click pretty fucking fast and would unload a 5 shell tube mag in under a second? Would there be a separate key for pumping and you just have to hold down the mouse button?

It would be stupidly overpowered without overbearing nerfs to damage, accuracy, mag size, etc. Automatic shotguns are functionally the same concept.

Because the game would lead to a treaty of Versailles and raise a sequel about a Hitler who banned it and chemical weapons because of what he witnessed personally the first time and a new game without those things is no fun.

hold down RMB to hold trigger and LMB to pump?

it would be considered 2fun and get nerfed like every other shotgun thats fun in a multiplayer game

No. But I was wrong. Sometimes when I see a decent thread I forget where I am and what year it is. That copypaste is no longer hotwheels, Holla Forums is full of actual stormfront retards and Holla Forums has no hope but lots of generals (at least it's not muh board culture anymore, right?)

most games automatically pump shotguns so you hold down lmb and it would basically function as a full-auto shotgun.

Depending on the game, it could be an alternative fire mode with a higher rounds per second cap.
Random example: Regular fire button gives you a 0.5 seconds delay after each shot, secondary fire button is only 0.2 seconds. To further balance this, you could have the secondary fire inducing some random shift on the POA as you fire.

Holla Forums is too busy shanking trs in the showers to do much else atm and i personally think that the attempted subversion and shilling that has been going on in Holla Forums for the last year or so is to blame for the radicalization of most of who remain

Holla Forums does have a problem with too many generals people forget /vg/ exists though i have had fun with playing games with anons, the threads if repeating always turn into cancer of some form or another completely disconnected from the game itself. gunnernacho raped and killed a girl in 1990 excepted

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It annoys me how rare it is to see a shotgun that works properly in vidya.
Shotguns and flamethrowers are two weapons that are rarely portrayed properly, though i understand that they are nerfed for balance reasons in games that have multiplayer. what reasons are there for shotguns that have an effective range and spread like your mums legs, and flamethrowers that feel like super soakers in a single player game?

This will never make me stop laughing. sage for off topic
From what I understand, they came to try and colonize Holla Forums because hurr you far righters need to learn the nuance of being moderates and making oven jokes on 20 different podcasts and got utterly blitzkrieged. And the founder of the site is a New Yorker married to a jewish woman that goes to drag queen shows. It's like watching an attack on a military fort and coming back a week later to find the fort reduced to 100,000 boxes of toothpicks. Was it ever found out who dropped dox at first? Was it cernovich?
It's like TRS tried to shit on Holla Forums for trying to build battlements out of brick and then it's revealed that TRS made theirs out of sand.

The majority of action in an FPS takes place with you getting fairly close to the bad guys. The effective range of a real life shotgun is going to be considered medium range in these games. This means that the environments of these games are the perfect environments to be using a shotgun. To make the other weapons viable they make the shotgun worse.
The same for a flamethrower. A napalm flamethrower such as the M1A1 has a pretty good range (20m/65 feet effective, 43m/141 feet max) and it is devastating to anyone it hits. But most combat takes place within that range anyway so it's just devastating most of the time. There wouldn't be any reason not to use the flamethrower.

Related video, forgetten weapons does a good job on the m2/m2a1
full30.com/video/bd5da082d1216b637c5fcc96287d176a

ro2/rising storm did a lot of things wrong but that flamethrower made a lot of them right