Falcom Thread

Yup. That's part of what was so shocking about the announcement.

Do they regularly bite off so much that they have trouble chewing?

It's XSEED's MO.

To be fair, though, if they go in Fresh without other projects, wouldn't that make them faster? Unless they're trying to do the Crossbell games, wouldn't they just then be focusing on one game rather than like….three? And wouldn't that make them faster?

Perhaps the problem is money. They probably don't make a lot off the profits of the games they localize? So they have to do lots of extra work.

I could imagine them putting more resources behind as PS4 game, though…

They do it out of love. Love and masochism.

We'll, you have to factor out the storefront's cut, then the Jap Dev's cut, I can't imagine they make too much. Hell, I doubt they have much marketing outside of word of mouth.

Theoretically. The reason SC took so long was because they couldn't put too many assets into it and stay afloat, so they focused on other things and moved on to games that had a chance of making money on consoles that were mildly alive, like Cold Steel and no Crossbell.

What did she mean by this?

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My theory is that they're in it for the long haul, each new Kiseki released should bulwark the sales of previous ones.

Seriously, Anelace's va is SA1 Tails tier and she's growling and yelping like a wild animal.

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Hopefully that haul includes Zero/Ao. I wouldn't mind if they contacted the fan-translators too.

Is this digimon?

I think it's "invincible". Even then, I have no idea what she means.

PrePARE to meetyour DOOM!

By the way, what exactly ARE crafts? Because people can do amazing things and I'm pretty sure they don't use Orval energy.

Yeah, it's invincible, my mistake.

Non Orbal supernatural abilities exist.

dang

Yeah, there's magic, and some are just bursts of speed and strength. How in the fuck does Machias shoot time?

Get NA vers

Ignore that last bit. Meant to delete.

What else would Ys be if not an RPG?

Now you know why nobody but Xseed was crazy enough to localise Falcom games.

An ARPG.

Also, playing through Ark of Naptishim right now. It's basically the first 3d title in the series, right? Still feels kind of clunky compared to Oath in Felghana and Origins.

Tfw little to no R34 on Epona from Origins

I always took most of them as somewhat superhuman abilities gained through rigorous training and/or tutorship. But for more outrageous ones or ones that involve elemental stuff, they use orbal technology that they have on them. For example, Machias probably customized his gun to have some orbments so he could do specific attacks, such as with his Time altering craft.

But then there are things like Rean's flame slash. Rean's tachi doesn't have anything special. But like most of the games demonstrated, aura and chi/ki and whatnot are concepts that can be implemented. And can be utilized to give boosts or effects for select moments, and as the game showed they can probably be manifested and manipulated in different ways. Such as Rean encasing his sword in flame, or Angelica and Lloyd manifesting dragons during their S-Crafts.

I'm really thankful they did.

I played Trails in the Sky on PPSSPP, before it was released on Steam, I think. And I didn't give it a second thought. In fact, I forgot all about it. Until I was browsing Holla Forums and rediscovered it, after it had been re-released. I was looking for something to play, and since I could barely remember it, I decided to give it a shot. And I was hooked. I was like "I can't believe I just dismissed this game", so I started looking for more, hoped for the sequel to be localized. It was then that I discovered Falcom.

I'd actually played Oath in Felghana before discovering them too. And I quite liked it. I didn't know it was part of a bigger series.

And now I really love Falcom. I even discovered that they had a hand in Faxanadu. An NES game that I played to death as a kid.

I got an answer on my question about Ao no Kiseki's ending that I brought up in the last thread. Apparently Lloyd just offhandedly says the occupation lasts for two years in a single sentence.

I cannot for the life of me understand why Falcom would write that, but oh well.

So the story doesn't end on a major downer.

Yikes. Maybe they should avoid games taking place at the same time with intersecting events. I mean, we knew it was going to happen, but having it out like that kind of sucks.

If they're going to do the occupation at all and they're planning to do an Erebonion story, having them just say the occupation ends in two years is pretty dumb. I get not wanting to end your game on a depressing note, but it's okay. FC, CS1 and CS2 all end on depressing notes. It's the expectation that things will get better later that makes people come back. Just saying, "Oh yeah, this ends in two years" ten seconds after your brought it up is stupid.

I'm not too bothered by the reveal. I still want to play the Crossbell games. I knew it'd have to end sometime, but I'd love to see what's happening on the other side of Garellia.

I've basically tried to digest everything I can about the Crossbell games second hand because I've basically given up hope of them ever being translated. Certainly not by the time Cold Steel 3 comes out in English, and given that some of the game takes place in Crossbell and Lloy'd narration will likely come true in this game, I figure I'm probably expected to know about the Crossbell games by the time I play CS3.

CS2 ends on a pretty high note. Yeah, Crow dies, but the rest of Class VII is moving on with their lives and becoming adults, preparing for all the trials and tribulations they may face with all they've experienced in under their belts. Listen to this song man.

I'm preparing to do that JIC, but I'm hoping to experience them myself.

I'd say CS2 is bittersweet at best. Some of his friends might be looking forward to what they're doing next, but that doesn't change the fact that Class VII is broken up and Rean is stuck in the position of political pawn, Osborne is taking more and more control of Thors (to the point where they use Ironblood colors for the uniforms by CS3), Olivert's third wave movement is all but dead and, well, if you aren't Erebonian or in Osborne's good books none of it is really good news for you.

None of those are the end of their arcs, though. Ao was, thus needed at least some silver lining.

But they didn't have to do it by completely taking the tension away by just saying "Oh but it ends in two years."

I'll concede, it's less happy ending more the happiness is coming ending.

I think it was because they planned for Ao and Steel to join together. Isn't CS3 going to have Crossbell characters as well?

Supposedly so from Kondo himself.

Everyone's supposed to be coming back. It's like an Avengers type event I imagine, since Crossbell's occupation involves each major territory introduced so far.

It should be noted that Sky characters play a big role in Zero and Ao as well. Estelle, Joshua, Renne and Kevin (and Ries) all get big hero moments in the Crossbell arc. And characters like Kloe, Julia and Killika show up as well. Cold Steel is easily the most disconnected of the games. I think Cold Steel 3 is basically supposed to go back to the "everyone is in it" formula. Which is why I've been reading up my my Zero and Ao stuff so I can know what I'm seeing when I play the game.

Like I said, I'm really hoping it doesn't come to that, but I know I'll have to abandon this thread in Sept 2017 because we don't know how to use spoiler tags. Hoping Falcom is working with XSeed on bring Trails over. I'm trying to be optimistic.

That's pretty much my story too. For some reason I had a hard time getting in to Trails on emulator, but once I got it on my Vita then got CS on my PS3 I fell in love.

So interesting fact: someone zoomed way in on Pink Hair's tonfas. They say "Crossbell Police."

She's gonna be related to Lloyd in some way, right?

Huh, Thors uniforms and Crossbell PD weapons, cooperating in some way with Ironbloods Rean and Altina. I only sort of have an idea of what's going on.

Lloyd definitely doesn't have a (biological) sister. She doesn't really look like him. I honestly can't see how she'd be related to him.

I guess she could be: a transfer to Thors from Crossbell, or perhaps Thors students are working part time as police officers? Maybe Rean is basically running the SSS as a Thors branch?

Damn, now I don't know what to make of this. Thors emblems and now Crossbell Police weapons.

Working with Altina and Rean. Who are both Ironbloods.

So maybe Rean is a head of a group that works in Crossbell, a group that's handpicked from Thors?

It's a new Thors branch focused on making officers that was opened up in Crossbell with Rean at the helm, perhaps. That's what I get from all of this information and assuming that's why there's a color change from Red to Blue with the Thor's emblem since Crossbell's majority color scheme is blue.

That don't look like cooperation at all. Seems like the girl is deflecting an attack.

I would assume it's just training, but it could be something else since we have nothing to go on.

They're in the same party. I'm gonna guess that's just sparring or something. Then again, maybe there's some strife later.

I'm annoyed Alisa got the shimapan.

Probably not sparring. I think we might see some in-group fighting. Maybe something that can impact the game in some way.
We will see soon enough.

It looks like they're fending off an invasion, or they're fighting the local authority, since those are archaisms and military monsters. Altina's health is very low, so I guess they're doing a level reset.

The thing is I'm not sure that's Crossbell. Stone buildings and cobbled streets aren't really Crossbell's chic.

Pic related is more like it.

Ordis, possibly. And look at that sign. Odd detail to place in a "battle room". Do you think combat might take place on the map, or am I reading too much into it?

They actually said something like that in the article I think. They said they were trying to make battle transitions more seamless.

Holy shit, that'd be pretty radical. No wonder it's taken them three years for this game.

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The architecture to me, with the modern buildings in the background, screams Crossbell.

Is there another place in Zemuria that's like that, exclusing actual eastern areas?

Are you a drawfag or is that official?

No, you're right. That picture is Crossbell. It's very clearly Crossbell, since that's obviously East Street. I was talking about how this one didn't look like Crossbell:

Sadly neither. Someone else did the picture after seeing Sara's CS3 look.

Oh! My bad.

I think that's most likely Ordis, Saint Arkh or another place in West Erebonia.

I'd imagine that we're going to both West Erebonia and Crossbell.

We are. They've said as much. My point was mostly that it was kind of weird the "Crossbell Police" girl was clearly in a place that wasn't Crossbell and, given the HP people have, at a pretty low level too. So whatever is happening there, it's happening pretty early.

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What the fuck nigga

In an ideal world Falcom would localise and publish their own games in the West. Sadly that's not gonna happen.

Playan Oath after finishing Chronicles. Holy shit this game doesn't dick around, at first I thought the giant tit demon was kind of bullshit but then I took it nice and slow and figured out her kinks. Nightmare mode is a blast so far.
Curious about something though, what's the deal with Memories in Celceta? I do remember playing Mask of the Sun so I kind of want to play it Memories as well, wikipedia lists a PC version existing for it but I can't find it.

Celceta had a Chinese only PC release

Well, the Erebonian government now controls Crossbell, so they should also run the police department.

Aksys is teasing us about Tokyo Xanadu information next week. Soon™

twitter.com/aksysgames/status/819289848632619008

twitter.com/gematsucom/status/819291232673431552

twitter.com/aksysgames/status/819292029377052672

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Don't trust aksys. T Here are talks of censoring the next arcana hearts game. They are full of SJWeebs.
twitter.com/takaya_coucho/status/817516958685892608

We'll see what happens when TX is released. No sense having a hair trigger about it this early.

besides, the link you posted says nothing about censoring anything. The dude just asked how the designs would impact sales with western audiences and it isn't even from the people at Aksys to my knowledge. I can slightly see your concern but there's nothing there to freak out over.

That's not Aksys. There hasn't even been a confirmation on who would handle the localization for AC4 when it happens. I know Aksys is a Russian roulette of localization, but what you posted has nothing to do with them

I'm not sure SJWeebs would wear this quote so proudly.

They may be hit or miss when it comes to some games' localization and translations (If Guilty Gear and Blazblue are anything to go by), but I have yet to see any source of proof that they censor games.

Their translation quality swings wide, as far as censorship they have done box art changes in line with what is allowed to be on box art with certain ratings in the US (their past offerings seem focused entirely on T rating though they appear to have let up lately). There were also some controversies with the Agarest PS3 games they localized/published removing some cgs and minigames. These versions were then ported to PC without the restoration of that content.

Well here's hoping they do port it. The one time I haven't preferred a remake is P4, and I feel like I'd rather play this on PS4 than Vita.

What about in terms of in game dialogue?

It can be machine translated looking/Full of memes to decently passable with good equivalencies. It really varies too much from game to game to definitively say the company as a whole is good or bad.

Didn't Aksys do Exist Archive? Translation in that was fine. Game sucked, though.

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I was dead tired when I saw it.

I'll never understand the appeal.

Yes they did do that.

Surprised Greenie's the first to have fan art. Was expecting Tonfa-girl.

ESRB forces them to change the box art because MUH CHILDREN! Fun fact, movies and magazines dont have those rules

I am aware of this. The ESRB has several rules that devs have to follow if they want to be able to post their ESRB rating on the box (rating is required for consoles). It has less to do with "muh children" and more that you can't put what is considered nudity or gore on the box of a T rated game because that would be considered advertising to a different audience than the rating (because while the ESRB is an advisory board for the appropriateness of content for children they do not care about what a consenting adult does but they DO care about how people perceive their image. This is also why most websites don't run porn advertisements or why products don't advertise on porn websites). This is actually well within the bounds of the contractual obligation a dev enters when they get their game rated by the ESRB. You are able to circumvent this by not publishing on consoles or publishing digitally. The ESRB is not a legally binding entity. They are an advisory board. What is legally binding is the contract you agree to when you get your game rated. One of those is how the game is advertised. You are not required to submit your game to the ESRB by law. Console hardware manufacturers are what require you to be rated and that is generally so they can wash their hands of any "obscene" content being sold to children (obscene used loosely). There are also retailers that refuse to sell M+ rated games to children. This is also not a law and is done voluntarily by the retailers themselves.

As in nearly everyone. Pretty much every major retailer refuses to place AO rated games on shelves. That's part of why "Hot Coffee" was such big mess. It retroactively changed the rating of the game once it was discovered in the files, and retailers had to take it down and get copies shipped with it completely removed, despite it being inaccessible via normal gameplay. The only way to get AO games is online, and I'm pretty sure most places are super strict about advertising it.

Nearly everyone because most retailers only carry console games and "popular" PC releases. Major retailers not carrying AO/UR games is less and less relevant as online marketplaces become more prevalent. Hot Coffee was a mess because it was not disclosed to the ESRB and the game was shipped in a way that it could later be accessed. Regardless of it requiring modding to access it was still on the disk when it shipped and the ESRB guidelines require all content be disclosed. They could have removed the files entirely but chose not to. AO games are only games that have been rated as such by the ESRB. There are plenty of games that chose not to be rated at all and would most definitely be AO if they did get rated. It isn't so much that retailers themselves are strict about AO games advertising (although they are) it is that ESRB guidelines for advertisement do not allow games that have their ESRB rating on the box to advertise using imagery that would make a game get an AO rating in the first place. There is also Japan that has physical Z (CERO equivalent AO) rated games for sale that aren't placed in general retail locations but I doubt that would fly in the US without stigma attached.

Really? I though that shit was obligatory for all the box arts, because of a small clause in the ESRB rules.

Whoever made that paypay needs to be shot for making such shit memes.

Hell, this is what I did in under 420 seconds.

Nope

This one is obvious. Don't try to goad kids into buying PTSD simulator. (Not effective)

Essentially not allowed to do what Hatred did and throw the shit around about their AO rating but it wasn't advertised with box art due to being digital so it wasn't violated.

A catch all to cover advertising that could be considered obscene in ways they didn't foresee.

No extreme nudity, gore, etc in a way that is meant to make people "clutch their pearls". (How this has been enforced is entirely different)

This rule is the one that I believe the box art was changed for. The US is a bit more conservative than other places sexually so they tend to take breasts and the like as only ok for M+ rated games. There have been M rated games with what would be considered "Mature" but were not censored because the game had the rating to match. (The example I'll use is the box art for Catherine. If it was a T rated game it would have been changed.)

There is also rules on what is allowed on advertisements that run on TV/Magazines/etc that essentially covers everything not on the internet. These exclusions are why most game trailers on TV are just the opening cinematics that end right before combat or don't make sense for the game. ESRB rated games are not allowed to advertise with the following:

(taken from here esrb.org/ratings/principles_guidelines.aspx )

1. VIOLENCE

2. SEX

3. ALCOHOL AND DRUGS

4. OFFENSIVE VERBAL OR BODILY EXPRESSION

5. INSENSITIVITY TO RELIGIOUS BELIEFS OR PHYSICAL/MENTAL DISABILITIES

Essentially meaning a game rated M wouldn't easily be able to be advertised very well at all because a game that gets rated M gets rated that high because of those things.

no trust me Aksys are SJWeebs
I got blocked by the offcial account for replying to them posting a kotaku article defending censorship of fire emblem fates

dozens if not more have been blocked for asking why shit was censored in X game

ontop of that I had the lead localizer have a massive shit fit at me after I got blocked from their offcial account and called him out on his bullshit

id find archives but I cant be fucked

HNNG I have that DLC too. Thinking of finally doing NG+ for black records and for an upskirt of emma in the sweater dress. :^^^)

Celceta is the "official" version of Ys IV. There were Dawn of Ys and Mask of the Sun before-hand but neither were actually made by Falcom iirc.

The xseed translation was patched into the Chinese release, along with 60 fps. Should be able to find a link in the share thread or somewhere.

Aksys are hit or miss from what I've seen. Muramasa Rebirth, for example, had a great translation, but I've heard they've fucked
up other games. you can't learn japanese

Panties are rendered in Tokyo Xanadu too, and you get upskirts whenever you roll. :^)

Yup, this user is right, Celceta PC has a translation patch. It even works under WINE with a few tweaks.

Out of curosity do I need to farm for Oath in Felghana? I'm up against this giant lava worm and it's not that the boss is hard, but it takes too fucking long to kill and eventually I mess up once and get all of my health drained.

Always, ALWAYS, check if you have the proper equipment. If you skip an item, the difficulty increases quite a lot.

Rarely you'll have to grind in a Falcom game.

What the hell happened to the world anyway?

I remember a time when us weebs were degenerate creepy weirdos into tentacle rape and little girls. We were supposed to destroy normalfags not join them.

What happened was more like this; we had normalfag infiltrators come into our hobbies/culture because we weren't giving them enough attention. Those that survived and stayed normalfags learned how to act like us, then were pretending to be "one of us" wanting/demanding said hobbies/culture and those who create content for them to change in order to be more accepting to their normal friends, give them attention again, and make it less triggering for them to enjoy. All the while we who truly enjoy it get shafted, assimilated to the changes, or left the hobby altogether because rule of thumb shows that when something gets popular/mainstream, it has to pander to the lowest common denominator by any means because money. This happened to comics, sci-fi, tabletop/card games, and almost happened to vidya if we didn't put up a resistance.

sage for off-topic

Anyone here go the Brofu route? Who with and how was it? Mine would be Jusis if I could arse myself to play the game a third time.

I saved/reloaded to get different events. Jusis was really good. Gaius is a true bro as well.

Elliot feels really gay

C'mon, we all know we'd plow dat boipussi.

WTF, i hate Falcom now.

Pic related happened.

I knew Gaius would be. Some call him bland but he just keeps his problems to himself until they're relevant. He was good enough to see the doom writing on the wall at a young age, and mature enough to take the opportunity Thors granted to learn about Erebonia and find a way to protect his homeland.

Its not surprising Elliot's was gay, he and Rean are the only two males with effeminate faces.

I mean… I might want to. He just needs to be more feminine

Speaking of effeminate faces, I wonder if the Calvard series will have a female protagonist.

If it gives me a yuri option I would be fine with that.

YELLING ABOUT THAT DYKE KIKE WHORE ANGELICA

If she was the only option I'd take her, I guess. But I'd prefer cuter yuri.

INCREASINGLY AUTISTIC REEEING

Cuter like this.

That feel when you instantly like a character just from her appearance

Not if they keep up the harem protagonist trend. Unless they give yuri options as well. Or they could use multiple protagonists. It all depends on the bond system, I think.

What appeals to you about her?

Maybe he likes the color green.

I'd say her hairstyle, eyes. Uniform as well.

Also tits.

She's a qt.

It's her stance and the way she's looking at the camera. The way the outfit fits her form near perfectly at the top allowing her to show her curves enough. Her hairstyle is a bit messy, but you know she tries to get it under control with the hairclips as much as she can, but that's just my take on what appeals to me. The only thing that can ruin her is a shit VA.

Yep, you described it better than I ever could.

Fucking A

Ehh, well I kind of like the hat. I wonder if she'll be like Towa, a cute commanding officer.

I also worry that the devs are running out of weapon ideas.

If they decide to bring in Katars for use by a main party member as their main focus, my dick would be diamonds. I know Joshua could use Katars but it wasn't his main focus.

Those look pretty brutal. I could see Walter or another Taito user using those to fuck shit up.

I can't see Walter respecting anything but the use of bare fists.

Fair enough. The man can punch through castle walls after all. Using one of those would probably just handicap him.

Does anyone here have that site saved that listed everything fucking from Working Designs did to Popful Mail's localization?

I just want to see Osbourne try to act fatherly toward Rean and build a relationship with him. Ask him if he's alright and eating well, trying to set him up with a lovely Ironblood girl if he doesn't have his eyes on one already. Hell, he could make one, if Rean likes lolis. I want to see a different side to Osbourne, hear a story or two about his Thors days, I just hope they expand on his character beyond what we've seen, since he's been built up from SC.

I want to see him seduce the shit out of Vita and betray her at the last second, Bond villain style.

Didn't mean to quote the guy talking about Katars and Taito. Whoops.

I'm pretty Vita's pissed at him for having Rufus kill Grianos, surviving when killing him meant so much to Crow, and hijacking Ouroboros' plans. I think any chance at seduction is gone.

Part of me hopes that Vita is on the run from Ouroboros because she failed and let her plan get taken over. So that she's found in CS3 and joins up with Rean. Ay, 1 more for the Reanbowl!

But I've also heard that the leader of Ouroboros is plenty forgiving so Vita will probably have chances to redeem herself. I'm not sure if the leader being forgiving is true, though. Just something I've heard in other discussions.

If you want to know why people think that, watch this video but note that it has
MASSIVE SPOILERS FOR 3rd

Sup, I'm the user from previous threads who finally picked up Trails again and ventured further into Trails 2.

I just finished a minute ago, I feel empty. So Trails 3 has been out for years, but only in Japen. Is there any way to get it, play on PSP emulator with a language patch or something? I can't stop here. Or should I wait for the upcoming release this year on PC? Or just dive into Cold Steel 1?

You feel empty because you've finished, or you feel empty because SC didn't satisfy you?

I only played FC and SC, and I dove into Cold Steel 1 and 2. I plan to play TC when it comes out, though. AFAIK you don't miss out a lot, but others can tell you more.

I skipped ahead, and The Grandmaster was more benevolent than I realized. Guess there's a little credence to the Grandmaster being Aidios

Wait for the official release, play Ys while you wait.

It satisfied me more than many games I've played in the last 10 years. Granted that the originals came out around that time, I wish I knew back then.

Do you guys know a certain release date for it yet?

You can go into Cold Steel if you want. I plan to play Third when it comes out(no definite date but still Spring 2017, so no later than May, hopefully). The only spoiler I can think of is one in CS II, but depending on how you've followed these threads you know it already. But other than that I think it's safe to play those then come back to TC, at least I'm hoping it is.

Well I guess I can't get into them since it's not on PC either. Major fucking bummer.

I'd say wait until 3rd is out. You might as well at this point and then go into Cold Steel. Crossbell isn't worth waiting for, but 3rd will be out in a few months.

Not exactly, but the translation is done and now they're just bug testing, so spring is pretty likely.

Oh….yeah. You'd need a vita, vita tv, PS3 or Playstation Now to play them.

You could always get a PSTV for like $20.

I'm good, thanks.

My co-worker has a Vita he plays not too often so maybe I could ask him to lend it for CS.

Oh… oh buddy… one no. You're Trails might end at Third, unless Crossbell comes over.

Doesn't Xseed plan on getting other legends games on PC then?

The Crossbell games are up in the air for now. I think Cold Steel 1 and 2 sold well, though.

You mean porting themselves? I don't know, there is that article, but have we seen it put to action? Some guy said CS would be easy to port because of its engine, but of course, that was just some guy.

I can afford a PS4 but i'm afraid i'm gonna buy one and then BAM NEXT DAY PRESS RELEASE COLD STEEL 1 ON STEAM.

Well isn't it for PS3? You can get those for like 50 bucks now.

The only way to play CS1 on a PS4 is with Playstation Now. Cold Steel 3, on the other hand, is going to be a PS4 exclusive.

I wasn't clear sorry.
I've got cs 1 and 2 on vita
I'm invested in the series and want to play CS3
but if it isn't coming out for vita nor PC then i'll have to get a ps4.
im afraid of buying one and then falcom or xseed or someone announcing pc ports.

Well we've still got a year or more before they release the English version of CS3, you've got time to see how it'll shape up.

Right, and PS4's will only become cheaper over time, so there's no need to rush.

Unless he wants P5 or something…

That's an assumption I wasn't going to make but sure I guess. Thanks for posting Rivers in the Desert, that's my favorite Lyn song behind the Battle theme.

P5 is still on PS3 so theres still no rush

He has CS on Vita, though.

What are the Ys-like Touhou Doujin games again?

Scarlet Curiousity?

There's also Youyou Kengeki Musou so I was wondering if there are others.

Anyone else notice that in CS II, when Rean brings out his bike, he cycles through battle quotes, but when Sara's in the sidecar he uses the same subdued "Alright" each time as opposed to any other character? It's strange.

I was taking a look on Steam Greenlight to see what crap was accepted recently, and look at what it passed through.
Links:
Memories of Celceta: steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=834215281

Seven: steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=835009583

Trails to Azure: steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=834999048

Trails to Zero: steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=834967711

Only Chinese languages, and in every page there is an announcement that says: we current just have Chinese language version distribution, if you have more requirement about English version, we may discuss this

Yeah, if anything the way the Anguis adore her is the most telling and disconcerting aspect of it.

Who the hell thought having a however secret boss that requires some ten hours of EXP grinding so you can even just damage it was a good idea?

Stupid Majunun….

We know, we went through a cycle of hope and then let it go.

We just need to wait

Angelica makes me wish lesbians could get AIDS.

They can, you just have to rape it into them.

I wonder what Angie will look like if she's in CS3.

I kinda want Laura to have neck-length hair, while Fie has longer hair. And Emma should have her hair loose.

I just want more CS3 designs. I hope they do a famitsu interview or something soon.

I wonder if she'll stop wearing her glasses, too. Altina and Sara don't look all that different. Maybe the Liberl and Crossbell teams will have new designs too.

Altina doesn't age, bro.

My dick didn't ask for this

She can still change her clothes and cut her hair, can't she?

My dick is asking for that.

I wish I had a tablet or something to do a quick sketch on. I'd love to draw what I think I want Fie and Laura to look like.

You don't have a notepad and a pencil? Do it faggot.

I could, but I hate physically erasing shit. It sets off my autistic trigger.

Get a whiteboard :^)

She hinted she might stop after her second Ymir bonding events. I actually used the contacts on her after that. I thought it made sense character-wise.

I don't think I could handle Emma with long hair and no glasses. Fie would still be superior, though.

If they finally make Emma do her damned job I think she would surprise you. Although Fie does have the "making her a new family" thing going for her sexually.

Oh no, my dick…

Fie is the best written character in CS by far. She has a whole, defined arc entirely separate from Rean's dick, which informs her desire for Rean's dick.

Is it just me, or is the Septian Church the most positive portrayal of a Monotheistic Church in J-games? Everyone either just straight worships Aidios, or people like the Nords for her into Theo spiritualism. Whatever the Animists are, they appear to be in a great minority or just outright non-existent anymore. Even the most shady part of the church, the Grahlsritter, have had positive, though secretive, portrayals.

Huh, you might be right. We should try to map out the character's arcs and try to compare them. I don't think Laura has much of one beyond learning to accept Fie's past.

The Church of Nisan is portrayed very positively in Xenogears, but is balanced by the Church of Ethos.

I remember, in DQ VIII at least, you could only save at churches. Though it's been a long while.

I think Laura's is more learning that there are things that are more important than filling in her father's shoes and the way of the sword, but she's too stubborn to break from it. You see her soften up gradually however.

Is this fuck supposed to be incredibly tough? The first phase just seems like a whole bunch of inconsistencies and I have no idea what I'm doing wrong. One time a fully charged whirlwind can take out his crystal helpers, another they still need some extra hits. Some times his goo blood can send me flying across the room, sometimes it slows me to a crawl. Problem is I can never get a good enough attempt to manage a 100+ health phase 2 and I end up screwing up once or twice and dying because I can't tank one of those shitty ass egg explosions. What gives? What am I doing wrong? With other bosses I took it nice and slow and figured out what I was doing wrong or where I can improve but with this fight I feel like there's no way to avoid damage unless I can get really lucky with his spawns.

Whoops.

Is it ever better to use older S-Crafts?

I think the single target ones might do more damage to a single target vs ones that do AOE, but I'm not sure.

So what do you guys think is up with Beryl?

Do you this she's just meant to be funny, or does she have a deeper meaning?

Beryl is an Enforcer.

Probably a witch from another clan. And funny.

Actually, with all the skulking around Spirit Shrines, and somehow being able to protect herself in these dangerous areas like a certain Anguis, she could very well prove to be far more sinister than we believe. Crow has shown us no matter how harmless someone may initially seem, they can easily hide it. Shit, she could even be another Awakener for all we know. Her design is just non-standard enough to be important.

I think she's most likely a witch from another clan. Hidden people don't always have to be sinister. Rosine, isn't

Yet.

Falcom tweeted this. Looks like it's from a shot that's not on their site

That boy has "suspicious" written all over him. I hope it's the beginning of an info dump/advertising thing.

Indeed. Though if Rean is working with Osbourne in CS3, then we might butt heads with her and Thomas. That might be interesting to see.

Yeah, he looks like he might betray you or switch sides at once point. But Falcom has proved that looks can be deceiving.

Is there any way to change that in tits2?

But they've also shown that more than one sword means you're a traitor.

*blade

But that means Fie is going to turn heel according to this logic

Maybe she will, if the Boss comes back.

Maybe she'll have an arc where she has to decide between her old family and her new family. I can also see Rean and her butting heads if Rean is working for Osborne

It's piss easy, you just need to swap a couple files. Just type tits SC english voices or something along those lines. Pretty sure it's even in the steam forums.

Any of you faggots got the trails of cold steel lion edition box for the vita? How well did the trails of cold steel 2 fit inside the box?
Got any pics of that?
Is it really worth it or should I buy the normal editions in ps3, because the lion edition is only available in vita

I don't think she's a witch. Emma even asks Celine if she thinks she is, and Celine says no, she doesn't feel the same way. Some have speculated she might be a vampire, sort of, since The Red Moon's Rose talks about them, as does the Erebonian Folklore section of the library. So far, every book series has hinted at an upcoming plot-point or at the very least something real in the world. Carnelia is, more or less, a true story with some of the events changed. The main characters from The Gambler Jack supposedly show up in 3rd. The book from Zero is supposedly about Remiferia stuff. Agnes in the Sun, from Ao, is about the Hexen Clan (it even has a talking cat). The Red Moon's Rose is the only one that hasn't come up yet, and Beryl is the one you give the complete set of books to in CS1.

So far, in every series, the Gralsritter have been entirely heroic.

The second game fits snuggly into the box. All you get is a really nice Erebonia pin and an artbook. I find that stuff nice, but if you don't then I'd say go for the PS3 versions since they don't have nearly as many or as hard framedrops.

It's pretty clearly Rean who's gone heel.

Again, according to that user's logic besides Rean is just being used and he knows he's being used but he hasn't figured a way out of his predicament because Osbourne is a tricky motherfucker who covers his bases.

Y'know, technically, Rean has two blades. One he uses normally, and Valimar's.

All this proves is what imageboard users have known all along. Don't compromise. If someone comes into your hobby and tries to change it or doesn't conform to the rules and idiosyncrasies of the hobby, kick them out. Don't accept them at all.

Except imageboards are incapable of kicking people out.

I hope she has a secret sidearc connected with everything. She's one of my favorite side characters just for being interested in occult shit outside of the usual occult shit happening. Plus she's an extreme qt3.14

Does anyone else think Celceta is the worst recent Ys? I'm trying to force my way through it and it's just not clicking with me. Meanwhile, Lacrimosa is a glorious thing of beauty, even though I have no fucking clue what is going on.

During the last Steam sale I got all the Ys games on Steam (1, 2, Oath, 6, and Origins).

Should I play Origins first or last?

I'm playing them in order of Release
(if you count 1 and 2 at the start even though there remakes.)

so 1, 2, 6, Oath and then Origins
That way I see the gameplay evolve.

From what I heard Origins connects to 1 and 2 so you should play those first I think.

Explain your feelings to me, so that I may pine for the game more.

Well its still turn based and no PRESS X TO NOT DIE kind of shit right?
I guess I will get confy with my vita

Trails doesn't have QTEs.

blog.us.playstation.com/2017/01/17/action-rpg-tokyo-xanadu-coming-to-ps4-and-ps-vita-this-year/
So Vita version isn't getting the EX+ stuff but the PS4 version is the EX+ version.
Vita release is in the Summer and PS4 version in the Fall

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Wait, hang on then. What's the PC version going to be? It's still being ported to PC right?

Me and a bunch of other people on twitter are asking that, I'll post when they say something.

twitter.com/Aksys_Danny/status/821420038989021184

They just tweeted it'll be the eX+ version

2fast4me

And now I'm willing to try it out. Is there an exact release date?

Fall for Steam and PS4, I'm guessing. No solid release date.

Not yet, just time frames for all versions.

Muh dick
CS trilogy on PC when?

I think Aksys is doing the porting. So they'd probably have to deal with XSeed, right?

Xseed will probably end up doing it themselves.
No need for Aksys
These localization companies however don't port inhouse, they outsource it to other companies.
So its not realy them doing the ports.
They do comissions them though.

Look at what happened to 4chan. Used to be a cool place filled with crazies, criminals and society rejects. Now it's normalfag/casual.

Why do a lot of Felghana tracks feel flaccid compared to the PCE version? the only true improvements I'd say are the menu theme, Illburn and the castle.
Be Careful and A Searing Struggle in particular feel VERY inferior.

Also in regards to TX, the original jp voices will be kept with no eng dub.

That's pretty good. I wish a lot of JP games got this treatment. It makes the localization process speedier on top of possibly being accurate/good?

Felghana has a great soundtrack, but it got some uninteresting orchestral arrangements and some tracks like Illburns Ruins sound like mediocre trance rock. The thing about Felghana's soundtrack is that it has 5 or 6 really great arrangements (Steeling the Will to Fight, Valestein Castle, Seal of Time, Chop!!, Beat of Destruction, etc.) and then the rest are just… relatively good at best. I think many Ys III tracks simply sounded better on the PC-88, PC Engine CD, Mega Drive or X68000 versions of Ys III, depending on the track.

I also prefer the crisp FM sound of the PC-88, X68000 and Mega Drive versions over the CDDA arrangements of the PCE version.

Dang, I'm kind of bummed. In my experience Aksys doesn't sub in battle and post battle quotes, which pisses me off.

It's an action game kinda like Ys in a way. I don't think you'll need to worry about that.

It's an action game. It's pretty fun. Slower than Ys.

If you have a PS4 you can download the JP demo.

It has the active voice stuff from Cold Steel, but that already has subs in Japanese.

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Alright then. I just hope none of the girls are annoyingly high pitched. Is Rie Kugimiya in this?

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I'm sure this is old news but I found this on the atlustube youtube channel. What is it? A crossover or something?

Atlus's Persona team formed a new internal studio called Studio Zero, and they're working on a new IP, codenamed Project Re Fantasy.

They went around to different devs and talked to them to get their impressions.

I thought it was really nice. Kondo talked about it, as did Yoko Taro, and some people from Capcom and Square Enix.

I really hope it turns out well, Japan always has some kind of perspective or twist on medieval fantasy.

Taro's interview is the funniest.
youtube.com/watch?v=XhWGuV6mcE4

But yeah, no crossover. Just some talk about Atlus and their new project.

Unless eX+ has a new female character that's voiced by her, then no

Let's hope that's not the case. What exactly is being added to ex+ anyway?

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Neat, thanks. About to try out the jap demo now.

Hope you have fun. I think it's the first two chapters in the game.

Pic related

They use the O button. The O button. THE O BUTTON. That threw me off so many fucking times.

There's a lot of Cold Steel in this. The presentation, the modeling, the menu design, slight aesthetic differences, but it is clearly Cold Steel. Hell the Free Time theme even reminded me of Cold Steel. I'm only hesitating on on calling Kou another Rean because I don't know what he's saying and his aesthetic and voice make him seem more subdued, but he had a lot of the same mannerisms.

The gameplay is simple but difficult. I'm dodging well enough most of the time but I'm still sure I'm doing it too early. The square button ranged attacks make it really easy to cheese some enemies, which I hope isn't the case later in the game. The character switching and certain enemies having weaknesses to certain characters is interesting, and I hope they later change up the combos for characters. Not having to cut away for combat was a pretty good feeling while exploring. Kou can also jump outside of combat and context sensitive areas, which elevates the game greatly.

I'm kind of hyped for it now. I look forward to actually understanding it. I do sort of wish I could hear it in my own language, but I'm sure I'll get used to it. I did for the first Agarest War.

You have to watch for those sneaky japs and their use of the circle button for confirmation/anything else. They've gotten me far too many times like that. There's a character in TX who is literally just Towa. I think they did that on purpose too.

Her name is even Towa. It's just supposed to be an alternate universe her.

I picked her for the fact that she's a literal chainsaw. So fast that I've gotten her to go 3-4 turns in a row and clear whole trash encounter by herself. That's worth breeding her alone.

Yep, she's Towa. I think she's a teacher though. Kind of like an alt-universe version.

And yeah, there's LOTS of CS in it. From the special effects when the bosses explode, to the sounds you make when you hit enemies. They also reuse animations as well.

I played the demo up until beating the second boss I think. I had fun with it, but since I didn't understand anything I put it down and decided to wait.

The seemingly perfect and hard working petite girl in chic right now.

It gets better when she can dodge every physical attack a boss will make against her. I have a feeling when they do bring her back into the party you most likely won't be able to use that strategy with her. I'd love it if they kept it though.

Checked

Considering how they only barely nerfed Delay, I don't see them doing away with evasion tank, especially since it's pretty expensive, isn't it?

I think her evasion stat covers physical and arts. Though there are some items that cover magic evasion only. Vid related warning about evasion tanks.

It's Lloyd in a trap disguise to hide his identity

SCREENCAP THIS

I've seen dumber.

I don't believe evasion covers artes, only physical attacks.

The Mirage Master quartz give magic evasion specifically.

Nah, it only covers physical. Fie was getting hit by arts whenever theyd be used against her

Are you sure? I was fighting one of the Cryptids(the one in Garrelia) and Fie was dodging his Arts just as well as his physicals. Was I just lucky?

Yeah, pretty sure. Magic Evasion is a separate thing.

You sure she wasn't dodging Crafts?

What she was dodging triggered the reflect arts defense that one of Emma's crafts give. Whatever that thing is he shoots and Ancient Glyph.

Interesting. I know for sure that if you pump up the evasion stat, Fie only dodges physical and not artes. Maybe you gave her MQ/Quartz/Accessories that allowed her to dodge artes.

Which NPCs and areas do you hope to see again in CS3?

I hope to see Heimdallr to see the effects of what happened when the Infernal Castle rose and when the Vermillion Apocalypse was awakened, if any. It's probably all fixed/rebuilt by now though.

And then Trista, I spent so much time there it's almost like Kamurocho from Yakuza. Might as well go back and see how it's changed, and what Thors is like.

Other than that I'm hoping it's mostly new areas.

As for NPCs… Definitely Thomas and Rosine, as well as some of the teachers like Makarov and Mary.

Also Friedel. I hope she's out kicking some ass.

I'm sure they've rebuilt and they say magic made the common folk forget about it, which is kind of lame.

I want to see Celdic. Jusis probably felt really guilty and fixed that shit up really well. Other than that, I really want to see the places the other groups went to on their field studies, which it looks like they will. I'd buy the shit out of the other group's field studies if they were released as DLC.

As for NPCs, which I forgot to mention, Alan and Bridget, Beryl, Sculptor girl, Annabelle, Anton and Ricky, Linde and Vivi, Becky, Mint, Makorov and Mary, the couple we always catch having moments in Trista, Rosine, Patiry, the Laura Fan Club, Sharl, and that's all I can think of right now though I'm sure there're more. Trails does great with its NPCs.

I'm also hooping we see EVERY Ourobouros member we've fought so far, and have a huge brawl between them and the protagonists, with multi party boos fights similar to the Vermillion Apocalypse fight.

We know we're going through Erebonia and Crossbell. What if we went back to Liberl?

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Falcom is at the Taipei Games Show and they showed off Ys VIII for PS4. Just skip back until you see it.

They also show off Dana's "Style Change", which gives her different attack/play styles, such as wielding a huge hammer or twin daggers.

Ouroboros are the good guys, bro. They're freeing humanity from the pacts the Goddess made with Old Zemuria, which are no longer valid, and keep them static.

I'll try to understand and reply to this after I've played 3rd, which likely explains what you're saying in depth.

What he's saying is a popular theory that is not proven yet. It's true 3rd gives you some interesting insight into them, but it's pretty clear their methods are very extreme, even so. The Grandmaster is kindly sounding, but did not disapprove of Weissman's actions like Vita and Arianrhod did.

So I think it's very early to be calling them the good guys. The interesting question is Ouroboros vs the Gralsritter. At present they are diametrically opposed because both are trying to do the same thing. However, if the most popular theory about the Grandmaster happens to be true, in theory they'd be on the same side, which would turn shit way on its head.

I really do hope we get some good series plot advancement in Sen 3.

Ys VIII for PS4 at Taipei's Game Show
youtu.be/r4woiSIwLEE?t=2329
There's also Tokyo Xanadu (before) and Trails of Cold Steel 3 (after) but they don't show anything new.

More Ys VIII for PS4:
youtube.com/watch?v=TgZmoUAu0KQ

Are there any games with the same level of bosses as Felghana? By this I mean normally in most other games like MGRR or DMC or whatever the enemy wails on you a bit and then gives you a small window for you to attack in(excluding parry/dodges/advanced shit). But with Felghana what I've noticed so far is that every boss requires you to truly master them, being able to hold off on taking damage as long as possible while being able to dish out damage in return, with rare to non existent windows where the boss just stares at you waiting to be wailed on. It's just a constant back and forth onslaught and I love it and I want more of it. I'm guessing the rest of the 3D ys games fulfill this? By the way, I'm supposed to be playing Felghana onto the chinese translated port of Celeceta to…? Origins or the PS2 game?
Also by the way, is there a way to control Chester 2? His first phase is fine, but his second phase throws me off with how many balls he throws at me and I eventually get hit by too many charged lances. I was once able to get a good enough pattern to almost get him(one hit left) but one of his balls glitched out, did a 180 and moved at the speed of light and got me.

Origins and Napishtim?

Stop saying "origins" it's "origin".

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You should recenter the text while you're at it.

It's the background from a calendar page, dingbat
like back when they use to make PC games they cared enough to be PC bros and make calendars for windLOLs and cursors etc.

No, I mean recenter origins on ys, as in move the word slightly to the left.

Considering how we're around the 60% mark, we have to. I'm pretty sure we still haven't met half of Ouroboros. Plus with everything coming together like they say, they can't not get serious plot progression.

So, I was going through some old CS1 scenes to see if I could find any interesting foreshadowings and I came to the scene where Rean meets Misty (Vita) at night in Trista. I remembered that this scene happened and that Rean figured out she was Vita. However, there is a part towards the end of this scene I completely forgot.

Vita takes off her glasses, gets in Rean's face and says "I had this feeling I'd seen you before, but I couldn't put my finger on where. But it's 'you,' isn't it?"

Keep in mind this line comes after it's already been established he knows she's Vita Clotilde and they'd met before, so this line seems to have a much deeper meaning. I cannot recall anything in Cold Steel 2 that hints Vita knew Rean, or was aware of Rean, seemingly long ago, and yet this line seems to indicate that this is the case.

She then goes on to tell him to "Give my regards to those two," who I think is supposed to mean Emma and Celine.

All told this scene is very odd when rewatched. I think at first blush you're supposed to think she's merely talking about your meeting in the hotel and two are Machias and Elliot who were fanboying over her, but considering you also had Fie and Laura with you that becomes a bit more suspect.

All in all, it's definitely one of the more interesting and mysterious things I've seen while reexamining CS1 stuff.

We know 4/7 Anguis, and 9/22 (assumed) Enforcers, one of which is dead and two more have defected. Ao gives us another potential recruit, though.

If you're wondering where the 22 comes from, the Enforcers are often tied to the Tarot arcana, and indeed the number of each enforcer represents an Arcana that reflects them well.

I hope she returns and is waifuable in CS3

Both of the female Anguis we've known so far are incredibly hot

I thought the The arcana thing was for both, since 15(known) enforcers+ 7 Anguis is 22. And since Renne and Joshua were the youngest, and they say constantly number has nothing to do with age, I assumed it was just a recruitment number.

I always chalked it up to Fie and Laura not showing nearly as much enthusiasm as Machias and Elliot, so they stuck out to her more, and her regards would matter to them.

I thought she was referring to seeing him around Trista as Misty, then meeting him in Heimdallr as Vita. "Oh, its you, that kid who runs around Trista doing things for people." Then again, some things tend to fly right over my head.

Down boy. Speaking of female Anguis, for some reason I've started to wonder if Arianrhod is Laura's mom. Most of the other characters with dead or gone relatives have at least talked about them and stated their status, but neither Laura nor her father have mentioned her mother at ALL. That doesn't mean it's Arianrhod, but I'm just, suspicious for little reasons.

Yeah, I'm mostly just kidding. I really hope she returns though. Vita seemed really nice, outside being an Anguis

Y'know what this reminds me of? The X character for squadmate and LI threads on old BSN.

New thread incoming. Any relevant OP updates?

Tokyo Xanadu eX+ LE is up on Amazon. 150 dollerydoos. I understand one comes with a statue but fuck that is steep.

Doesn't look like it. I say just release it soon.

New thread.