If you were around during the Spanish Civil War would you have joined the International Brigades?

if you were around during the Spanish Civil War would you have joined the International Brigades?

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Yup

Nope. CNT really screwed the pooch

Yep. They were the biggest voice against Durruti's labor camps and secret police.

probably, fuck all else to do

my heart swells when I look at the international bridages. 40,000 leftists from all over the world coming together to fight fascism? it almost sounds like a lie when you look at the state of the left today.

Yeah

I would probably join Franco just to stop the retarded anarkiddies from blowing up churches and killing priests tbh fams.

Knowing they would have lost? No.

i'd join this brigade
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Brigade_(Spanish_Civil_War)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francoist_Repression

Also many of the priests were sympathetic to the fascists they got what was coming to them

I would have joined the counterrevolutionary forces and sabotaged them from within. Their strength was a bigger problem than the left's weakness per se.

Probably the POUM.

I would have hunt you down and killed you turd.

Depends on wither or not its in a different universe where the outcome of the war had not yet been determined.

I would've fought along this based man.

Would of joined the waifu brigade tbh

is that you George?

youtube.com/watch?v=EwqZC6cYe4M

Post songs lads

They were sympathetic because of the horror stories of Bolshevik Russia. Maybe if Lenin and co. weren't so euphoric the church wouldn't be so one sided.

There is an International Brigade going on right now and that is Rojava.

kek fuck them. I support Assad.

He's a socialist and secular, right?

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Dem cantons gotta be connected ffs

Fuck you turkey

I like how Sudan is split in half there, who genocidal warlord was in warm relations and contact with Saddam Hussein.

Orwell was a faggot tbh.

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No. Trots are not my comrades, and ultimately they allowed the fascists to win thanks to their opportunism and ultra-leftism

NO. SHIT.

Considering that nobody from Leftypol is considering joining the International Freedom Battalion in Rojava I doubt anyone here would go to Spain in the 30s.

Yeah, I can't imagine why people aren't jumping at the opportunity to go fight along side US Special Forces.

That, and they expect you to learn Kurdish to a conversational level.

wtf i love durruti now

I would join Falange

No. Even if republicans had won, I would have no intentions of ending up in anarchist labor camp. It would have not stopped in a single civil war, republican camp was too divided for that to happen. Either way there would have been purges.

:DDD fug off

youtube.com/watch?v=cXnkFFmCrQ0

assads secular but serves the interest of capital.(but not american/saudi/qatari capital)not a socialist at all

he's not even especially secular tbh

there was shariah courts under his regime

Never trust anarkiddies to run a revolution. Also they should have killed more priests and less fascists.

lets wait for a revolution lead by socde- uh i mean trots :^^)

youtube.com/watch?v=u7TN--NnpLo
fuck Franco btw

Why live?

Spooky

I almost went, made plans and everything. I had to bail because of family issues here that I can't ignore.

Absolutely.


If I'm to go, it would be better to wait one more year to finish my medical training so I can come with a practical skill. It would be a waste to bail on my education right now when its not in a situation where I can just drop it and pick it back up again later.

actually you'd be incredibly useful in that regard user. in our rojava thread one of our comrades who went said they're really lacking in medical expertise so yeah, finish up your studies before going for sure.

That has more to do with allowing the different minority communities handle inter-community issues. It's an appeasement tactic. I doubt he has any love for Sharia law. The countries day to day activities are run by secular law. Syria definitely isn't wholly secular, though. The constitution states that the president must be Muslim to be eligible.

Why call him secular in the first place?

Assad is a typical porky whose regime is aligned with an Alawite minority. It's almost propaganda to call it secular, because it makes the regime sound more stable and egalitarian. It gives off good PR.

let me guess, you're a Primo de Rivera cuck

benis

That depends. Will they let me fly Mosca?

I'm too pussy to join the International Freedom Brigades in Rojava today so I guess not.

i saw 4chan /int/ talking about this today

boards.4chan.org/int/thread/68877057

Everyone posting "yes" ITT better be doing it directly from fucking Kobani

Are you?

Yes.

t. tankie

If you support Assad over ISIS I can understand that, but this is just going full retard

Feels good

Fuck it yeah sure

what about the FSA?

C'mon fam. Rojava is great but let's not ignore reality.

Fuck the "moderates". It's mostly a paper army and a euphemism for "hardcore islamists, but not as hardcore as ISIS"

Rojava wouldn't last more then a couple of years anyways

This

Private property is a local issue. Councils reserve the right to appropriate "private property" if you're behaving like a porky landlord.
Besides, it's a huge improvement over forced collectivizations. The state or other non-local institutions should not have the right to seize property. It's a giant leap towards tyranny.


They've been saying this too for years.

I agree, just wondering how the YPG see it

It's democratic confederalist, i.e a form of socialism. Not to mention, it takes a page from mutualism.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rojava

In 2012, the PYD launched what it originally called the Social Economy Plan, later renamed the People’s Economy Plan (PEP). The PEP's policies are based primarily on the work of Abdullah Öcalan and ultimately seek to move beyond capitalism in favor of Democratic Confederalism.[92] Private property and entrepreneurship are protected under the principle of "ownership by use", although accountable to the democratic will of locally organized councils. Dr. Dara Kurdaxi, a Rojavan economist, has said that: "The method in Rojava is not so much against private property, but rather has the goal of putting private property in the service of all the peoples who live in Rojava."[93]

Rojava's private sector is comparatively small, with the focus being on expanding social ownership of production and management of resources through communes and collectives. Several hundred instances of collective farming have occurred across towns and villages in all three cantons, with each commune consisting of approximately 20–35 people.[94] According to the Ministry of Economics, approximately three quarters of all property has been placed under community ownership and a third of production has been transferred to direct management by workers' councils.[95]

It's still not a socialist society. Given the right conditions it could probably reach that stage but I just think it's intellectual dishonest to act like it's currently socialist.

The FSA hasn't existed for years. What you have in Syria is a a huge amount of disparate rebel groups with different aims and ideologies. Most of them are Islamists of some sort but there's also some secular groups. The YPG has engaged in many fights with Islamist rebels.

Pretty much all the secular rebel groups like Jaysh al-Sanadid and Jaysh al-Thuwar have been inducted into the Syrian Democratic Forces, which is essentially the army of Rojava. The YPG/J are the largest force within the SDF, and are its backbone.

The SDF is what the FSA should have been tbqh.

See

I've always wanted to fight for a great cause, be part of an organized force for good. Rojava is the only thing like that, but I'm afraid I'd be throwing my life away. I'm not particularly smart or tough. Maybe if there's still something like that when I'm like 30 and I'm tired of life. I just hope there is.

No I wouldn't fight.

If I have my modern knowledge, I would though send them how to make an AK47, basic night vision goggles (UV light with UV sensitive lens) and my knowledge on general modern guerrilla combat that I've read over the years.

Seriously, why in fuck would I fight in a war where there were often only like 1 gun per entire unit?

Oh also modern digicam camo designs.

I see, thanks. What are the chances of the SDF winning and the Kurds getting autonomy/independence?

I'm sure there will be some conflict in the future

I know how you feel. My life is shit

either them or id find a way to join cnt.
maybe id join poum

same

i feel guilty for not going

wasn't he a trot

They don't want independence but getting autonomy I would say, tentatively, is likely. But there's a lot of twists and turns left in Syria so it's hard to pin it down for definite.

The SDF is currently undertaking an operation to liberate Raqqa, which is the capital of ISIS. Every bit of land they take gives them greater negotiating power for autonomy in the negotiations that will happen later down the road.

I rely on medication to get by so it's not an option for me. I've thought about how I could stock up on medication but I'm afraid I'd become a liability in the process. I plan on learning Kurdish anyway, I'd be able to read and maybe translate stuff coming out of Rojava.

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