FRIENDLY NEIGHBORHOOD ACE COMBAT THREAD

I never played this until recently I downloaded the PS3 F2P game.
It's actually really damn fun.

Infinity isn't terrible, but it's more like a "best of" remix of older games with a heavy layer of freemium fuckery added. Campaign is also really short. If you want to see what being a real ace is like you gotta play 04 and Zero.

If you think Infinity is fun then I highly recommend you play the holy trinity on PS2 (4, 5, 0). They're by far the best in the series. If you have a good enough PC to emulate them then I recommend doing that. The instructions are in the OP.

Why no 5 here?

Play 5 before Zero. Zero gives away certain things in 5.

So I played the PS2 trilogy and X and am going through AC3 now, is AC6 worth playing or not?

AC6 is slightly inferior to the holy trinity and it turns the cheesiness level up to 11, but I'd say it's worth playing. It's a pretty great game and has a fantastic soundtrack. Liberation of Gracemeria is one of the all-time best songs in the series.

I don't mind cheese all that much, too bad its on the 360 though so I'll need to get a used one if I want to play it. Is Xenia in a good enough state to play it?

I tried it around a month ago and it crashed after playing the opening video. It did run the opening very well though.

Probably doesn't want user to see Belka get raped a second time

Are the handheld games any good as a place to start playing the series?

t. Yuke

You mean 5 gives away certain things in Zero?

Ace Combat X on the PSP is pretty alright. Ace Combat: Assault Horizon Legacy (Ace Combat 2 remake) is pretty good on the 3DS (there's also an updated version with better performance on the N3DS)

At least the Yukes didn't lose I really hope 7 lets us choose a side. I don't want to kill the Eurasians a 2nd time like we did with Belka

I wouldn't call that winning.

It was at that moment I realized that you are my Buddy

At least there are still Yukes. Belkans cannot get clay back if there are none left.

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Any games where i can use my flyfu?

You are gonna be a good goy and kill more ebil Erusians, and you are gonna like it, buddy.

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Do you hate us that much?

Ew, it's almost like they saw the P-38 and wanted that same style, then forgot the main thing about the P-38 that made it good - Two engines.

What is with the British fucking up the formula of the P-38? First they take out the superchargers and then they copy the twin boom design without the twin engines. smgdh

War Thunder, have fun.

To be honest I'm not sure what to think of Erusean now that it's a monarchy. Especially after watching some AC7 demo gameplay which suggested UPEO could be a faction

Maybe there was some sort of coup after AC4 and the guy behind it set up a monarchy?

Buddy…

I guess user should mean the coup after the coup

Dont you talk shit about my flyfu, ill stab you!

Too much grind to get it?

A mile of grind and the game just isn't very fun for a lot of reasons.

Fuck, end my life.

tbh, while silly, I guess it wouldn't be too farfetched, considering until 5 everything took place in Usea, and ISAF/FCU have been incompetent enough to let all that has happened (Skully Islands Incident, Usean Continental War, Second Usean Continental War) within the span of 10 years happen.

I could be wrong and maybe the Kingdom is some ISAF puppet state.

I can see it either way. If stonehenge plays a part, it would mean ISAF is involved. We still have yet to learn why Erusea would suddenly declare war against a country far away, and far larger/stronger.

Now that would be something huh. Shit, if that was the case we would probably have to go up against Mobius 1. That would be heartbreaking for me, AC4 was the first game in the series I picked up.

Maybe that old guy in the trailer is Mobius 1, doesn't the game take place in the 2020s? He would have to be pretty old by now right?

That's my number 1 question right now because of pic related. How, why and to what end.

While that would be interesting, i kinda want it to be Pixy, the guy looks old enough since that's a jump from 1995-2020, according to the ACES at War book, he made his way to Usea after Zero, and "but what is a nation?" and the skyjousting in the trailer make me want it even more.

Or could be Pixy, with "What is a nation?" I wouldn't be surprised if both popped up, they both would be old and both fought for ISAF before. They would be the most feared aces, thats for sure.

Coincidentally, isn't 2020 the year that all the classified info about The Ghosts of Razgriz is supposed to be released. That'll be interesting to see unfold if they remember that is.

It looks pretty cool, but I honestly don't get the love. It's an absolutely senseless design choice with no real benefits from an engineering standpoint.

I think the F-104 is the oldest plane confirmed in any Ace Combat game. The Vampire is sexy as fuck though. De Havilland was like the British Northrop, they make the sexiest and yet strangest looking fighters.

Also, the proper term is planefu.

SINGLE ENGINE FIGHTERS BEST FIGHTERS

All the best looking fighters have single engines. Best efficiency and best reliability too. Pics related.

What if the old guy is Chopper?

Unlikely, you kinda see him slam into the ground. If they wanna go that route he is more likely to be Yellow 13. We didn't see him definitively destroyed, and the Narrator wasn't in a position to really confirm his death or not

The F6F Hellcat is playable in the 3ds game.

I agree that it's probably Yellow 13

but I want to believe ;_;

Which game is the 3DS game a remake/port of again?

Ace Combat 2

How necessary is it to play Ace Combat 1 before it? Because I only got the 3ds game, 5 and Zero at the moment

The oldest playable plane to appear in a numbered title would be the A-4 from AC2.

Air Combat is essentially an arcade game so you can skip it.

alright thanks friend

Do these games emulate well?

Technically the F-104 is the oldest, as the first prototypes flew 3 months before the A-4's first flight.

The PS2, PS1, and PSP games all emulate very well. Use the links in the OP to get started with the PS2 games.

This nigga gets it.

combat flight simulator 2

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Here you go, buddy.

imgur.com/a/GdYiR

Nice, thanks bro.

Wait a minute, I just realized that there's no problem with the one that was posted, it's just that FireFucks was taking forever and a day to render it properly on my screen.

Whoa, got any more details on this? I wonder if the other major factions from AC3 will be involved as well. I feel like Neucom could be involved when it comes to the planes apparently shooting laser shots. Come to think of it, most of the named characters in AC3 would likely be kids during the events of 7 here. I wonder if any of them might show up, something like a narration role like the kid in 04 was.

How do i fix this

It's already confirmed that the story will have nothing to do with Ace Combat 3. It's supposed to have more to do with the holy trinity.

Use the settings in the OP.

Same settings as OP

Are you using the same resolution settings? using a custom resolution will do that IIRC. If that's not the case then try enabling "Align sprite" in the hardware hacks menu.

That hack worked for the black lines.
Is there any way to fix the texture issues for the plane and sunlight rays in hardware mode?

Got bored in the middle of the night so I tried my hand at designing a squadron patch. Sorry it's on paper I still don't have my tablet.

How'd I do? My personal favorite of the names is "MiG Munchers". The planes flying around the giant's head are MiG-21s.

Depends, are you playing AC4? AC4 is known to still have a few texture issues that have been solved in 5 and 0. You can try fiddling with some of the hardware hacks, see if that works, but you might just have to deal with it if you're playing 4.

We can always have more OC keep going

Well if anyone missed it last time the thread was up, have this.

Very good.

Drawfags we need more pictures of this semen demon

Do you do everything for free?

Do you shit on everyone having fun.

No, just him.
I'm just saying that hyping up vidya isn't a good idea.
I can steel feel it.

ahh, understandable, I also know that feeling all too well.

There's only like five female characters in Ace Combat. I take what I can get

There are more than that in 3 aren't there?

how the hell did this series avoid SJW wrath?

I dig the fuck outta this. If possible, can we use this as our squadron patch in AC7 multiplayer? Beats making yet another "infinity" group again.

sorry for the doublepost

There should be zero female aces, user.

Are you telling me you don't want to escort a qt AWACS operator by diving into the fireworks?

Heads up Aces. Game just got a rating for an xbone release in Taiwan

Same thing happened with Tekken 7 before it was confirmed for PC. All pilots should stay alert, PC version possibly inbound.

archive.is/Qc8Ah

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Your repeating digits confirm your hypothesis

A man can dream.

I fucking wish.

No.

NORTH
OSEA

Easy, SJWs don't actually play games. Planes confuse them and so they immediately think "this game must not be popular".

Fuck, I even have a PSVR for this game. PC release is going to be hard to choose between if it's a good port.

If there can be a competent female Blue Angels pilot then surely we can have female fighter aces.

there are 2 known female fighter aces IRL. Both from Russia

My F-22 identifies as a transpansexual demi-otherkin, this game needs more diversity and inclusion because I can't identify with these patriarchal cishetoronormative shitlord planes.

I sexually Identify as a Fighter Jet. Ever since I was a boy I dreamed of soaring through the skies screaming "fox 2!" as I shot down filthy Russians. People say to me that a person being a Fighter Jet is Impossible and I’m fucking retarded but I don’t care, I’m beautiful. I’m having a plastic surgeon install a radar, fixed wings, a GAU-22/A, and AIM-9X Sidewinder missiles inside my body. From now on I want you guys to call me “Lightning” and respect my right to kill from above and kill needlessly. If you can’t accept me you’re an Aerophobe and need to check your human privilege. Thank you for being so understanding.

Belka, having more mental problems isn't going to bring back your clay. Remember nuking yourself? That turned out really well, didn't it.

CHECK YOUR NON-NUKED PRIVILEGE OSEAN PIG

DON'T MAKE ME PASSIVE-AGGRESSIVELY BLOG ABOUT YOU!

use the hacks

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You're telling me I should get Ace Combat for the 3ds?

Ace Combat: Assault Horizon Legacy? Yes, it's a nice remake of Ace Combat 2. There is also a "Plus" version for the New 3DS hardware.

MY DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICK

I'm sorry, what horrible transgression have I committed here?

Every time I see the demo it always makes my dick even harder.

Made a WebM even though it's kind of a tough fit.

Jesus Christ. Is it even legal to listen to something this comfy?

Nigga the best part about the Ace Combat soundtrack is its ability to get you pumped as fuck.

Just beat Ace Combat 04, it's my first in the series and I fucking loved it. Some thoughts:

I played on PCSX2, but the settings in the OP aren't ideal. Hardware mode always causes a black plane, and a fucked up hanger view. The sun also looks bad, when it's on screen. I just used software mode and dealt with the infrequent slowdowns. Should I do the same when I play 5 and 0? Are there ways to fix my problems, or do they persist in the others?

I loved the gameplay of 4, it looks like the gameplay changes a bit with each release. Should I go on and play 5 and 0, or should I play the PSX releases before I spoil myself on advanced gameplay? Also, I have a 3DS, is AHL a replacement to AC2, or is it different enough for both to be played?

Also,
I still can't comprehend how ridiculous and/or awesome that was

I hope these dubs are blessed with truth.

Superior maneuverability and thus dogfighting capability. The problem is that by the time materials science and fly-by-wire made it viable dogfighting was no longer seen as relevant.

AC5 and Zero don't have the same problems AC4 does, and the gameplay doesn't change that much as it does when you go back in the series (AC3 has more realistic physics for example), so play the PS2 trilogy if you want smooth gameplay continuity

Since this is the friendly Ace Combat thread.
Can a user please tell me how to emulate the PS1 games in the best visual quality possible?
I'm trying to get PCSXR-PGXP (can be found here: ngemu.com/threads/pcsxr-pgxp.186369/ ) to work but somehow I'm to dump. Game either doesn't start or has graphical glitches. don't know if i have the right bios or just haven't configured it properly.

AC04 has graphical issues that AC5 and 0 don't have. The settings in the OP are the most ideal for the PS2 games, it's just that AC04 hasn't been completely fixed.

I recommend you play 5, 0, and then 3. AHL on the 3DS is a perfectly good replacement for AC2, so you don't have to worry about emulating that. AC3 is the only PSX release really worth playing.

Eeeeeeeh not really. One of the first things I learned while studying aerospace engineering is that things are nowhere near that clear-cut. You can get the exact same or superior maneuverability benefits if you correctly design a conventional airframe (See: any 4.5gen or 5th gen fighter, yes even the F-35), without the structural issues and yaw instability. Forward swept designs have huge issues with stability at high angles of attack, and an aircraft's ability to maneuver at high angles of attack is just as important an ability as maneuverability. An inherent part of a design with a forward swept main wing is instability while stalling, which also makes it impossible for a forward-swept design to be supermaneuverable (whether or not supermaneuverability is actually useful is a whole other debate). In the end, forward-swept wings are completely incompatible with the direction fighter designs have been going for the past 40 years, which is why designs like the Su-47 and X-29 were never adopted by any country.

Did you get a real BIOS from somewhere like emuparadise? And did you set up PGXP to turn on perspective correction? What are your video options set to?

What exactly is the source of this complilation by the way? Is it shitty YouTube rips or did they come fresh off the disks?

Use Mednafen through RetroArch. The HW version lets you also choose OpenGL or Vulkan rendering alongside the software mode if you want to use them. AC2 and 3 emulate perfectly on Vulkan and should be almost perfect on OpenGL. Air Combat is a bit wonky in menus and cutscenes using these mods but software mode works fine.

Apparently the latter, if you really want the straight rips right from the game CDs/DVDs I can find you that just be aware that it's probably not gonna be what you think it is.

Is the one on 3ds any good? I saw it while browsing freeshop, and I find myself unable to emulate any of the real ones for a little while

Read the thread. We've discussed this at least 3 times now. Assault Horizon Legacy is completely worth playing. Despite its name, it's a remake of Ace Combat 2.

GLORY TO BELKA

BELKA WILL RISE AGAIN!

OSEAN PIGS GIB RIGHTFUL BELKAN CLAY

LONG LIVE BELKA
WE WILL RECLAIM RIGHTFUL BELKAN CLAY COMRADE

I just beat AC04 today. I had a lot of fun. I picked up 4, 5 and Zero PS2 copies, I started 5 tonight. 5 has some minor changes, I'm getting a little used to them.
Why is the backup weapon harder to destroy than fucking Stonehenge, requiring organized efforts and timing from several different branches of armed forces. Meanwhile Stonehenge, you kind of just hit it with missiles like you've been doing with everything else.
Essential for any game that knows it has good gameplay. Or collectibles/purchasables you can't get from just one playthrough.

What am I in for?

You're in for a wild ride user. AC5 is my personal favorite of the holy trinity. Shit's great.

Is the copy of AC3 posted the latest translation?

Yup

I own the PS2 games, any easy way I could go about ripping them myself? Like a while ago I used a program that let me extract tracks from PS1 games, but those use some fancy way of storing files.

Beast! Thanks man.

Megalith doesn't kill you instantly at 5000 feet, or whatever the threshold is. Stonehenge totally will. It's a different design and is a full on base instead of a pure weapon.

No idea.
The work has already been done though, just need a player capable of handling those specific formats.
psf2.joshw.info/a/

PS2 games can be imaged with anything. Just pop em into a DVD drive and copy them using something like ImgBurn.

If you're trying to get the music tracks off of the PS2 games, the complete series soundtrack can be downloaded from the OP.

ID change cause phone posting. I made ISOs a while ago for emulation but I didn't think to actually try looking for audio files in them. Would that work?

Like I said, I was iffy on the source quality but also I tried downloading it three times and got decryption errors.

Even having the sounds ripped from the games, would that necessarily mean they will be FLAC quality? I'd have thought they would be in some proprietary lossy high compression format that favours low file size over quality. Are there any other sources for the games soundtracks?

I imagine they are compressed yeah but I don't care as long as I'm not dealing with multiple rounds of compression.

All three game use a proprietary lossless codec on the game disc.

The soundtracks in the OP are all either game rips or directly from official soundtrack discs. They're as good of quality as you're gonna get.

Good to hear, but I still get a fucking decryption error from that pile of shit known as Mega.

My guts say it's not so simple but I've not done it before. I think you can get to the files that way but they're probably archived and you'd need a specific tool to get in there.

Well. That's a bummer.

Don't know what you're doing wrong. I used mega specifically because I've never had issues with it.

Installing their program now rather than using browser download, will see what happens.

Yeah try that. It should solve any issues you might have.

Nope, the fucking thing failed again. Kim Dotcom can suck my ass.

Maybe you just have shit Internet. I have shit-tier Internet and sometimes have to deal with decryption errors.

Ayo check out this YF-110B. The US sure does make good fighters ;^)

125mbps download, no interruptions during the download process.

Isn't that a MiG-21?

Also I don't know what to tell you here. I've never had MEGA fail so consistently. Is it every download or just this one? If it's just this one then I'll try to upload it again.

It's certainly very good, but I wouldn't say it beats Megalith, The Unsung War, and Zero. Maybe it's enhanced by the game itself. I wouldn't know - I never did get around to getting a 360 to play AC6.

Can't you see it's obviously a F-35?

Is it worth trying to get a 360 to mod to be able to play AC6? I'm starting AC3 now finally and already I understand why most anons were shocked at the different physics. I know after I beat it, I'll probably want to play another new one but 6 is the only one I won't have played.

I like it more than Megalith, but I'll admit The Unsung War and Zero are better.

I'd recommend 6. While it's not as good as the holy trinity it's still a really fun game. It turns the cheese factor all the way to 11 too, so don't expect a story that's as good as 4, 5, or 0 either. Xenia can't run it currently, so your best bet would just be to buy a used 360 to play it.

Fellow aces, would you wife the Razgriz?

I would hatefuck Razgriz

DAMN OSEAN PIGS GIVE BACK BELKAN CLAY

OSEA GO STRAIGHT TO HELL

Hey Belka, why don't you nuke yourself again and we'll consider it.

6 is short and cheesy but entertaining enough, especially if you need something to tide you over until 7 is out.

I'd find some other games you want to play on 360 as well before actually getting a 360.

You know it.

Can someone upload the complete soundtrack to some other service that isn't total dogshit like Mega?

Bump

I'm not sure if I'll have the time, but I'll try to make a torrent late tomorrow. Work here at the USSRC is really ramping up.

Here's some of the lovely things I get to see on my way to work every day to tide you over till I can get that download going.

I have a ton of pics but Holla Forums's shitty files I've limit is keeping me from posting 5 at a time.

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Hard mode: tell me exactly what variant and nationality that MiG is by external appearance alone.

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MiG-15SP-5?
North Korea?

I just learned there was a port of the PS1 version of Air Combat to mobile phones. That's fucking weird.

Incorrect and incorrect

I'll give you guys a hint: a painting done rapidly in watercolor on wet plaster on a wall or ceiling, so that the colors penetrate the plaster and become fixed as it dries.

Here's the MiG from another angle. It's current livery is far from being its original.

It was made by glorious Belka

No, comrade. It's a Yuktobanian fighter!

That's really a hard one to place. Is it a 19? The nose of the plane looks familiar but doesn't remind me of any MiG…

What the fuck kind of hint is that? I think you're just fucking with us. Next you'll say it was never a MiG.

It's definitely a MiG, but it wasn't built in Russia. If you can't figure out how to use that hint then that's your issue. I honestly felt like that made it too obvious. Think of it like a crossword puzzle.

Is this thing just a giant turbine with wings?

I think you're overestimating Holla Forumss knowledge on painting techniques

Nah, its intake is just mounted on the nose. Many jet fighters of the era used that design.

You'd think they'd have some knowledge of using Google though.

Looking it up is cheating. I had to look up the painting name.

It's a MiG 17, but not made in Russia. So is it actually a Shenyang J5?

It's a MiG-17PF. Was it made in Poland? It looks vaguely asian, but you said that it's not the original livery.

I meant looking up the definition for the painting, not the plane itself.

You're correct that it's a MiG-17 variant, but it is not a J-5 nor Chinese.

Hint #2 it's from a former Soviet state

WE HAVE A WINNER! It is indeed a MiG-17PF (built as a LIM-5P) from Poland. This particular one was loaned to the NVAF during the Vietnam War and flew combat missions.

is the 3ds ace combat any good?

Yes. It's very good.

thanks, i'll download it soon

The only big problem is the DFM but I think you can turn that off.

It's a remake of Ace Combat 2. Also there is a "Plus" version for the New 3DS hardware bump.

This thread ain't dead yet

That's what all fighter jets are, user.

AHL doesn't have DFM though.

This thread carries the spirit of the Razgriz, you can't kill it, only make it rest for a while.

I'm playing the translation for AC3 and I'm honestly pretty disappointed. The flight physics in the game are an absolute chore compared to the rest of the franchise. My real opponent is controlling my plane, not shooting at them. Tweaking the settings helped a bit but it's really not enough.

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These don't feel realistic. They feel intentionally gimped, and they made up for it by letting you bounce off the ground at 1000 knots so the player doesn't kill themselves constantly.

You can't even rotate while pulling up or down. You have to rotate, then pull, then rotate, then pull, etc.

The physics is annoying but later in the game when you get better planes it becomes a non-issue.

Nope, I already finished one of the endings and the plane I was forced to fly was no better than anything before it.

I've experienced difficulties like that as well, I wonder if it's just bad programming on Namco/PA's part. It's a shame that it doesn't feel as smooth or flighty as the Holy Trinity but it's still alright to me. My major complaint is that you don't see shit until they wiz right by you so you really have to rely on the HUD more.

Since I'm playing in RetroArch I ran at 2x resolution with PGXP enabled so things became a lot more visible than usual. I don't put it higher than 2x though because I just think it gets too weird beyond that.

Well guess you got to get gud.

RetroArch has PGXP now? Neat. I was in PCSX with PGXP, ran as is. Looks okay enough. I was shocked at how well the text scaled. I figured it'd be blurry like Type 4 but it's not.

Git gud lol

Nah.

I don't understand the problem, yes in the early game the physics is annoying, but once you advance and you get access to the F-15, the F-22, and the Su-37 you can climb pretty much unimpeded. Sure I prefer the arcade physics of 4 but it isn't gamebreakingly bad.

The J-35, which first flew in January 1952, is playable in Zero.

So can the problems with emulating Ace Combat 4 in hardware mode be fixed?

Apparently Kono's going to be at TpGS 17 in Taipei to talk about Ace Combat 7 on the 21st. So stay tuned for more interviews and possibly more info.

Not yet, if it bothers you too much then just play 5 and 0 instead. They don't have the same problems.

I already beat it, I just want to play it without the bugs.

Google seems to indicate that J-35 is a jet engine, but not a fighter itself. Did you mean something that it got put into?

It's the Draken, m8.

YO BUDDY, STILL ALIVE?

Use software mode. But you'll need a powerful CPU to run it.

Blazing Angels 2 had it.

You'd think Google would take J 35 fighter and land me at the Draken but I guess not. They want Saab 35 Draken.

Strange.

Were these games any good? I've seen them every so often but I've never played them.

Probably for the same reason that you wouldn't be able to find the Gripen by looking up "F-39E". It's technically the correct designation, but it's a designation that's only used by a single military.

You have been visited by the Solo Wing Pixy of A World With No Boundaries

Strength, pride, and the ability to read the tide of battle will come to you, but only if you reply "Here comes the snow" to this post.

Also, if anyone was wondering, I recorded that off a hardware backwards compatible PS3 over HDMI and then cropped/scaled it a tiny bit in Premiere Pro. You're not gonna get a higher quality Pixy than that.

It's almost like you had gay sex with him at some point in the story or something.

Our daddys taught us not to be ashamed of our V2s.

"It seems we got along just fine… Buddy."

That's some good shit there, buddy

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The Draken didn't first fly in 1952, the Saab 210 Lilldraken did, which was a test aircraft to test the wing layout of the Draken. Other than outside appearances it doesn't share much with the Draken, which first flew in 1955.

Every day is repost day.

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Belkaball never gets old

AC6 did realistic physics.

AC3 was more of a downgrade from 2. You LOSE speed while FALLING DOWN during stalling, and your missiles become retarded during stalling for some god damn reason.

There are some weirdness to how missiles and AI behave in AC3, for example staying stable behind your target and having them centered seems to actually decrease your missiles mobility and increase the chance of the enemy trying to avoid theù.

I noticed how they always avoid better whenever I actually get a good shot at them. It pissed me off.

Also dodging enemy missiles is impossible. If the hud turns red, either get lucky or die.

Avoiding enemy missiles is even worse, you can do extreme maneuvers and get hit anyways or simply nudge a bit and have the missile zoom past you, although like you said the HUD turning red is not an indication you basically have to monitor the map all the time to see if something is lining up for a shot.

I had a few "What the hell hit me?" moments but beyond that I didn't have any real trouble dodging enemy fire. I did notice that missles would miss the easiest shots known to man though, but I was assuming that it was just the enemy plane had the ability to turn on a dime to avoid the shot.

I'm replaying AC5 and I just experienced the most RAGE INDUCING SHIT IN THE WHOLE GAME.

I was flying the recon mission (mission 21) in an F-117A and I somehow managed to outrun the 8492nd squadron in a subsonic aircraft when SWORDSMAN FUCKING RUNS INTO ME AT TOP SPEED LIKE A RETARDED TODDLER AFTER I GOT "MISSION COMPLETE". Even though I got a "mission complete" I had to restart the fucking TEDIOUS AS FUCK MISSION ALL OVER AGAIN.

Fuck man, AC5 is my personal favorite of the holy trinity, but this makes it so fucking hard.

I remember doing that once. That was hilarious and fucking annoying as shit. Mission Accomplish should mean Mission Fucking Accomplished, smash cut, go home.

I can't wait to do that in AC7 in VR.

My favorite fratricide is on the first mission having HRTBRK1 just plow right into your ass.

I think I died more times crashing into planes then anything else.

I died halfway through a mission in Shattered Skies at the end because I fucked up the distance and smashed into a bridge.

I destroyed that bridge, though.

Also, I'm thinking about replaying the entire series and beating each game using only the main aircraft featured on the cover of the game (AC1: F-22A, AC2: Su-30, AC3: Su-37, AC4: F-22A, AC5: F-14A, B, and D, AC6: F-15E, AC0: F-15C and E)

If I played maybe an hour per day do you think I would finish before AC7 came out?

Reminds me of this one speedrun of the tunnel mission in AC3, where the speedrunner went so fast he ended up crashing into the end part of the level that is normally unreachable, since usually you'd be flying down the tunnel still with the mission complete shit popping up. I can't for the life of me find the original video however.

That's gonna be some crazy self control you'd have, honestly.

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Slow down there Galm team

Actually it's you who plows through him.

I've gotta work all day, so that's all the time I have.

So the AC games work fine on PCSX2 now? Those settings in the OP fix the map/ground looking all buggy and the colission detection bug?
Can´t wait to get home to try it out I miss Ace Combat and I don´t have a PS3/4 and my PS2 is dead

Nvm I was just reading the thread and it seems some of the games still have problems, going to try 5 and 0 and report back

5 and 0 work perfectly, 4 looks a little weird but collision is fine.

Neat because I loved Zero

Well I just tried Zero and im surprised that it works, my only problem is that im getting a black screen on the intro and the first menu but once i get into the hangar the game seems to work fine, is there any way to fix that black screen? Its kinda annoying

Ok sorry for posting a lot on this thread but I fixed it by switching between software and hardware modes with f9 kind of annoying but it werks! I can´t believe im going to re-play this games, its been a while. The only thing that seems to be missing are the sun effects but its not that noticeable

I think that one of the hardware hacks fixes it. I can't remember which one though.

Not if I can help it

I really should get around to playing Innocent Aces. Anyone know how well it runs on Dolphin?

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It's basically an Ace Combat game, don't see why it shouldn't be included here.

I have no idea but I've had the itch to try it out, too. It can even be played without waggle, which is nice.

It's basically an Ace Combat game, close to Cross Rumble since it has manuevers, but I don't think it has DFM.

If Ace Combat was the Last Supper, which characters would be at the table? And who would be Jesus?

Has anyone else been following the T-X program? What entry is everyone else rooting for? My personal favorite is Northrop's entry. It's literally a trainer variant of the F-20 with chines.

For those not up to speed, the T-X program is a fly-off competition (like the JSF, ATF, and LWF programs which produced the F-35, F-22, and F-16) to select a new trainer aircraft to replace the Northrop T-38A Talon (which can also possibly be converted into a light attack fighter to replace the A-10 and a Naval trainer for the Navy)

The Competing companies/entries are:
Boeing/Saab with an unnamed clean-sheet design
Lockheed Martin/KAI with the T-50A Golden Eagle
Northrop Grumman / BAE Systems with the Model 400 (internal name, clean-sheet design)
Raytheon/Alenia Aermacchi with the T-100 (sister aircraft to the Yak-130)
Textron AirLand with a possible clean-sheet design or modified Scorpion
Sierra Nevada/TAI Freedom with an as-of-yet unseen clean-sheet design.

I don't know who the disciples would be, but I bet Pixy would be Jesus.

That Scorpion looks like an F-111 and an F/A-18 made sweet love down by the fire.

That should be updated to be about the F-35 shitposting.

That Boeing/Saab model looks sexy.

Wouldn't be an Ace Combat thread without one of these. :^)

This was my go at it, how'd I do?

A-10 is the least sexy (and most overrated) plane you could possibly use though. Why not a nice, sleek F-16?

FUNNY YOU SHOULD MENTION

L-LEWD

Mobius One would be Jesus.

It looks a lot like the F/A-18 from above. Northrop's looks better tho.

Then who would Blaze be?

St. Peter?

He's Judas at best.

Who would be Yellow 13?

I think the Last Supper crew would be limited to player characters and wingmen, rival aces would be Jews or Roman soliders.

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I just finished playing ACX and used the S-32 at the end. It flew great but man is it an ugly motherfucker from behind.

What do we think of Pixy Christ? Who would the Yellow and Razgriz squads be?

You say that like it's a bad thing.

Different strokes, I guess.

I think I agree with , Pixy is Judas who betrays Jesus, which makes Galm 1 Jesus. So Mobius 1 is the Holy Ghost. Yellow 13 could be Saul technically, an enemy to Christianity "struck down" by the Holy Spirit. I still believe he and Yellow 4 are alive somewhere. I don't care what the gravestone says.

The F-20 looks so much sleeker than the F/A-18. I just like it more.

That's an F-20 lookalike, and I don't think you realize that the F/A-18 was derived from the F-5 as well. Behold the Northrop P-530, the predecessor to the YF-17 and F/A-18.

Yes, but the wider body of the 18 is what gives it character, to me. The F-5 line being single rudder just doesn't appeal to me. I know that's retarded, but that's just something that I've always not liked about the design.

I thought an F-20 was basically just an F-5 with modern equipment, didn't realize they would actually have some body differences.

There were body differences between each iteration of the F-5. The F-20 was the apex of the F-5 line. It was finally able to take advantage of the true potential of the F-5 design. Too bad the Air Force and fighter mafia screwed it over at every turn.

I wrote a thing about the entire F-5 line here if you're interested: imgur.com/a/AE5lq

I can feel my soul leaving my body. That's some shit.

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The F-20 was the F-35 of it's day, an unending moneypit and the F-16 was pretty much ready to roll by the time the F-20 was nearing completion.

AC3 wasn't as good as the trilogy. It had shit controls and missile mechanics. Put it on God Tier.

I think Cipher would be Jesus since he's had humble beginnings, grew his own fame, escaped being bombed numerous times, even by a nuke once, like Jesus' eluding Harods' troops in a way, being betrayed by Judas (Pixy), then disappearing at the end of the story.

Fuck off Pierre Sprey, nobody likes you. The F-20's operating cost, unit cost, and program cost were all lower than the F-16's.

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The F-20's operating costs were over 60% lower than the F-16's while also requiring less maintenance and less fuel.

The unit cost for a LRIP F-20 was $15 million each, which would have dropped as the aircraft moved to FRP. An FRP F-16A from the same time period was $18 million.

LWF program cost had reached $13.8 billion by 1986, which at the time was just as scandalous as the F-35's program cost. The FX program that produced the F-20 costed a little over $1.2 billion.

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Double edged sword on that one, m8. Gonna need some evidence that it was a neverending moneypit in the same fashion.

No! No! That's not how proof works! I say absurd shit, demand you disprove it, and claim that any source you post is kiked!

LockMart shill, is that you?

The F-20 had Sparrow and Maverick capability a full five years before the F-16, and probably would have been ready even earlier if the USAF wasn't sabotaging development.

It was also privately funded for around $1.2B, a tiny fraction of the F-16's development cost (NYT claimed a development cost of $11.7B for the F-16A as of 1977; it would take another ~$5B and twelve years to catch up to the F-20).

This. The Fighter Mafia (and by extension the USAF) absolutely hated the F-20 for two main reasons. 1: because it became legitimate competition for the F-16 for a fraction of the cost, and 2: because it beat their ideas about airframe design to a bloody pulp. The Fighter Mafia insisted that light fighters should be without tracking radar, dedicated to air-to-air (they hated the concept of multirole fighters, they were even against having bomb racks on fighters), and airframes should emphasize high turn rate over high angles of attack. Only this way, they claimed, could a light fighter be economically viable. When the F-16 gained a radar and air-to-ground capability, its cost skyrocketed, and this seemed like a confirmation of their ideals. The F-20 sported a radar and fly-by-wire avionics, was arguably superior to the F-16 in the air-to-ground role, and has a high sustained turn rate while retaining its ability to maneuver at high angles of attack (a capability that the F-16 still lacks today but the F-35 has). It has all of this while being a fraction of the cost of a F-16. This shattered their ideology, and they quickly began speaking out against the aircraft.

Pierre Sprey himself outlined how they felt about it pretty well:

Sounds familiar doesn't it? Next I bet he would be calling it a "turkey" or a "lemon" like the dumbass he is. It can't be overstated how much the F-20 got screwed over by the Fighter Mafia. I'm just glad that they aren't around anymore to fuck up our current programs. Never trust anyone who would rather kick your ass with a slide rule than with a jet.

So gentlemen, what are you flying in Trump's America today?

Best girl.

Fite me bruv. Anyone who disagrees can eat my ass.

They agreed to bring down the cost below $100m. Trump is a liar, he said I would get tired of winning but I'm not tired at all.

Y-you do yealize that was already going to happen right? The cost has been dropping with each LRIP batch and the deal already was that the unit cost for a FRP F-35A would be $85 million in 2018 dollars, which would be roughly ~$75-80 million in 2015 dollars. Literally nothing happened during this "deal".

Do you even business, faggot? They lower cost of production but keep the price of planes the same to pocket the profits. Trump threatens to pull the plug entirely and they decide it is better to cut into those profits but keep the contract rather than lose it entirely.

Do you even research, faggot? It was already announced that the "price of planes" as you put it would drop below $100 million with the LRIP 10 batch of F-35As. Lockheed has made it clear that their goal is $85 million by 2018, and $80 million by 2019.

That's what would have happened if they were dealing with Obama and friends.

Didn't know Sprey was that much of a dumb jew. The Tigershark was a beauty. It's a crime it never made it into production.

The eventual unit cost for the F-35 hasn't increased in a long time. Back in 2012 Lockheed and government estimates put it at ~$83 million per F-35A in 2019, current estimates put it at ~$80 million in 2019. Where's that price increase you keep talking about? Even the F-35C, which has been the problem child of the program, was already going to be $93 million in 2019. Surely the great meme god Donald Trump should have been able to negotiate lower than the price that was already set during his predecessor's administration.

It kills me when people (RT) say he designed the A-10/F-16. That's just a blatant lie and an insult to all the engineers who actually worked on it (it's almost like it's fake news or something). The guy's a defense analyst, basically a glorified armchair general, who drafted some of the preliminary requirements for the A-X and LWF programs. He had zero involvement with the actual design of the aircraft.

To be fair though, if this were still the 1960s his suggestions would be somewhat insightful, but it isn't, so he's like a fountain of bullshit instead. This guy honest-to-god insisted that an F-86 would be a more effective fighter than most modern fighters, and that we shouldn't build fighters bigger than the F-5E. He's absolutely senile.

Source: pogoarchives.org/labyrinth/09/08.pdf

Already did knight and soldier run. Going for a mercenary run now.
Also knight schemes>soldier schemes

Forgot picture.

I forget, are the endings different for each run, or is it something else?

You get different "interview" cutscenes and one of Pixy's cutscenes changes a line based on what type of Ace you are.

On the first mission, depending on your style Pixy changes his comment on what he's heard about you. And when you finish the mission, the dialogue changes for what hot drink the pilots want when returning to base. It's little stuff like that throughout the game

Huh. Well that's cool. Guess I'm gonna have to replay zero a couple more times.

For anyone who owns the Hori FlightStick 2 that came with Ace Combat 5, this video shows you how to install them on Windows. The video page has links to the drivers to install.

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Even planes run out of fuel. Past the bump limit.

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