Let's talk about all the scummy shit this company has pulled

Once again your shit taste is taking control.
Just hack a PSP, VITA, 3DS or emulate shit in your phone and play the 6 million games available on the go.

Yeah they would've done amazing if not for some really fucking retarded decisions just to "combat piracy"

I'd say the Vita is a good example of why shit DRM hurts more than it helps.

Yeah, and also screwing Sony with the Playstation.

And the Youtube let's play thing, and their ambassador program to bribe inflated reviews.

As for GTAIII, before Rockstar was Rockstar, they were working on the first ever sandbox game as an N64 launch title, called Body Harvest, but because the 64 was doing poorly due to a "lack of RPGs" they forced the studio to scrap 80% of their game, and turn it into an RPG, then NoJ and NoA kept pulling the devs back and forth on how to take the game, until it got canned due to nothing getting done. This pretty much destroyed the company, which they were forced to sell just to pay off their debts.

The only thing they screwed PM out of was tournaments and streams. The mod itself was shut down due to paranoia and fatigue.

I think not having games hurt the vita more than drm, but that's just me.

The gooks are worse than the jew in some ways.
The jew at least recognizes you as an animal, the gook sees you as a plant

b-but I wanna play the new vidya games.

It was either that or they canned it to focus on their NotSmash game. Either way it's bullshit and they should've at least finished 4.0

Well it's a mixture of things. Either way I think Sony half assed the vita when they could've done a much better job with it.

I just hope that when the Switch is a success because of POKEMON GO BUY OUR SHIT GOYIM that Sony will stop being fucking retarded and make a PSP3 or a P3P.

Also the gooks are bigger jews than the jews themselves

t. gookanon.

Lets start with an oldy but still relevant

Censorship
Anything with Nintendo's hands on it is going to be censored in one way or another. They market their products exclusively to children and soccer moms despite majority of the audience that buys their products are manchildren and there simply aren't enough of them as evidenced by the failure of Wii U and the low attach rate of all their consoles and handhelds.

No standards
Their games and systems have no standards at all. Not talking about bugs and QA but stuff like 1.5GB discs on gamecube with no hard drive attachment,the absolute mess that its their VC and eshop, their shitty excuse of multiplayer on any of their recent titles and so on.

Enables hardcore kikery
Nintendo products are a scalpers wet dream. They always undership, this is their primary marketing tactic. It blew in their faces with the Wii U but worked for shit like Amiibos(which is a problem in of itself) and NES mini. As a result their games, old or new, always have inflated prices up the ass.

Finish your backlog and the new vidya will be dirty cheap down the road, but I guess you have shekels and can buy anything you want

no they aren't
t your greatest ally

Your surprise suggests a lack of familiarity with the business world. There is no place for ethics or morals in business. The only time corporations observe these sentiments is where they're legally bound to, and the penalties are greater than the profitability of a particular action.

I read that as "PEP".
Thanks for the laugh user.

All 5 of them that will be avaiable on the Switchs lifetime?
I mean, sure playing Skyrim on the go the two times a week you get out of the house while everyone calls you an autist before stealing it and finding its already run out of batteries sounds like fun.
But is it really worth the 300/350 pricetag they're likely going to charge for this trash?

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With all the halfchan refugees, I really doubt you.
There really is no shortage of people shitting Nintendo and we already know all the questionable things that Nintendo had done. It is like the Obsidian hate threads. Obsidian makes a shitty game with SJW crap and no one is buying it so who cares. Bethesda continues to cancer up the industry by having their shitty titles be regarded as masterpieces. Nintendo isn't the one starting the cancerous trends currently plaguing the industry or at least not leading them. I recently played Bioshock 1 just for a casual fun time and I realized that it was completely irredeemable. Now, I have distrust for any title without some disdain for standard industry practices. I know that there is a lot to hate Nintendo for outside of the mainstream game media flagellating over how they are moving the medium of the realm of art but it better be something new because this shit attracts consolewarring faggots.

I heard it that it was a mutual screwing over.

Nintendo was the worst video game company when we were children. and nostalgia fags with bad memories eat it up to this day.
they invented the WORST practices designed for scamming children. the only company that could be considered arguably worse was tiger electronics. i dont even know where to begin with nintendo.

Sega was a better company at the time. and even sony had better practices. but since theyre old they still try to appeal to our emotions by saying "remember mario? you liked mario as a kid, right?"

Don't forget the retarded online/account system they have, where the console holds all the keys for purchased stuff instead of the server. This means that if your console dies leaving the memory unreadable (or gets stolen) all your digital shit is gone.
This also bit them back in the ass because thanks to this retarded way of making things work, pirates can get games directly from Ninty's servers.

Sony is basically false advertisements and astrotruffing the company.

Microsoft is the most honest company out today

I can't even touch Holla Forums just because of how obnoxiously retards spew degeneracy over the most inoffensive things like cartoon porn and the fact even wasting your time trying to argue just gets you banned.

Not even worth trying to save. Just focus on

Leave it to the Jew to screw up his own race's loaded term.

Does that extend to their products beyond video games? I was a Ninty fanboy as a kid and haven't ever purchased a Sony product of any sort because of it (but if they actually make quality otherwise, I say fuck it now)

filtering out the worst retards while not letting any shill bullshit cause any cuck shit to manifest.

at the time, sony was a much more honest and straight forward company than nintendo. not talking about now…

It really is shitty too. I fucking hate videogames. Paying for shit games feels like funding a drug cartel so I don't buy any videogames.

Pro tip: We don't want you there in the first place. You're too stupid to let go of your Marxist beliefs and too childish to do anything but use an argument from emotion. If you had even lurked for a fucking day or two you would have found enough information to disprove your retarded comment, but apparently what you started to read hurt your feelings too much and you decided they're more important than the truth. Holla Forums is made better by you not being there. Now we just have to kill (not a metaphor) kamphy.

Are you saying that comparatively or as a matter of an objective statement of honesty? Please be the former.

I won't give an argument when you don't deserve one.

only because they failed so hard, theyre hoping that them being good sports will earn them some pity sales.
same thing nintendo is doing.

Wait a second, that's you mark
You're not a gook, you're schlomo's incarnation

Depends on the games user, like right now there aren't a whole ton of Japanese middle budget games for the PS4, so I expect them to either be on PC or the Nintendo Switch. Hell Nights of Azure is coming to PC.

also I chuckled at that image

In my experience (and according to their own site rules) that's how Reddit operates. I don't see how people fresh off the boat from there would be better than a paid shill mod.

oy vay

that's not saying much though.

It's alright, i have some jewish blood in me too

Well, no one is going "my company is better than yours here."

I know that other companies also have shitty practices, but only Nintendo has super loyal group of people for fervently defend all their shit. All the more reason why the discussion is merited.

I feel about Nintendo the same way I feel about Star Wars. I LIKED them a lot as a kid, but seeing what it's become and all the retards defending them just outright pisses me off.

That said, Sony also has their fair share of scummy practices, so they're no saints. M$ too. They killed Rare remember?

Still, I think both Sony and M$ have largely corrected their paths this gen after all the flack they've gotten. Nintendo on the otherhand is still just as crooked as ever, and it's like you say, like Disney, they just play on people's nostalgia to get away with it all. And it's honestly sickening.

Yes, thank you for SOUNDLY proving my point, as you can't set your asshurt at the prospect of your worldview being wrong for FIVE SECONDS to have a proper discussion on the nature of pornography. You can't even reply to (or factually assert your own) one statement without covering your fucking ears and shutting your eyes. Letting people like you continue to post on Holla Forums is one of the ways the mods have purposely shat it up.
Happens every fucking day.

I will never forget the day Ninty outed themselves as total shit by trying to erase the 2nd best 2D Metroid game from history.

With all the shit you spewed in a single post I have no reason to consider you any less worth dealing with than a tumblrtard.

Let me put this as simply as I need to; if I can't trust someone not to be retards about something that little, then I can trust them, period.

Nope, go to any consolefag forum like neogaf or ign

Honestly, it kinda makes sense that Nintendo is trying to become the new Disney. Hell they even have rides at an amusement park. Where the fuck is my NintendoQuest, Nintendo? Make Custom Robo Great Again!

Body Harvest exists. I own a copy I think. It was ambitious but didn't really work well in practice, and I can only imagine how terribly it's aged.

What Nintendo games are unbeatable?
What cryptic shit do they put in games to sell strategy guides?
What licensed products are broken?
What broken hardware is advertised as working?
Give them credit where it's due, when Nintendo makes console hardware 90% it's the most solid thing that exists in the market at the time. And Nintendo games are more bug free than anything else from major publishers. Scummy business dealings and shit aside, but when you buy first party Nintendo stuff you're generally getting quality (unless it's Star Fox Zero and other random experimental games with shoe-horned in features for the sake of ticking "the hardware can do this" boxes).

You're shitting me, right?

Just go to 4chan and reddit, loads of Nintendo dick sucking. even during the Fire Emblem Fates shit.

Yeah, you're right. but nintendo isn't the only one like that

You know that isn't true. See anything critical on Bethesda or its games.

It's pure fucking poetry, man. I've literally outlined a prediction of what you would do and here you are fitting it to a T. It'd be hilarious if it wasn't so terrifying that people like you actually fucking exist and don't recognize what you're doing.

I don't browse shit.

In the most popular venues on the web (4chan, Reddit, Youtube, Facebook, Tumblr, Google Hangouts), the Nintendo dicksucking is astronomical

True enough, although I suppose it's worse with Nintendo since NeoFAG and IGN are mostly irrelevant.

It exists because the Studio that bought out the company and IP finished it.

Nintendo still canned it and bankrupted the studio though,

Ah OK, I understand now. Is that when and how DMA Design became Rockstar?

Yep, that's exactly it.

Also, the game came out as it did because of all the meddling. Considering how GTAIII came out, using the same concepts, I'm sure Body Harvest could have been great.

You are blind to other fandom's dicksucking. Also, Sony thanked Neogaf.

You blind to other fandoms' dicksucking. See IGN review of Uncharted 4. They got angry over it getting a 9/10 instead of a 10/10.

castlevania 2, for example. fucking tornado? are you kidding me?
i remember reading an interview where a company was actually aske by nintendo to remake a game to make the 1st level more difficult to combat people getting far in rented games.

what licensed products? nintendo put their stamp on tons of broken 3rd party devices. speedboard was one…

the powerglove was even made by nintendo didnt work as advertised.

the fucking wii was also the same bullshit. they had 2 chinamen running around on stage pretending to play VR tennis, when in reality the movement and swing were dependent entirely on what buttons you push. the "shaking" of the controller was just in place of pressing 1 more button for a swing.

Fucking nostalgiafags.

The only feelings my reminiscing brings me is "I wish things weren't so shit now". Why is it so hard for anyone to do that?

This is true, although it seems like it's on a much bigger scale when it comes to Nintendo. I can't deny Sony has it's fair share of dick suckers though.

That's the reason why Nintendo upsets me the most. It's easy when a company that makes shit acts like shit. However Nintendo makes good stuff and making good games should be rewarded with sales. However everything directly outside of them actually making video games is a mess or actively anti-consumer. Their shit is so immediate outside of making games that it actually effects their games. Whether it be treehouse censoring stuff or Nintendo actively undershipping games to create a false scarcity.

Let's not forget the bullshit prices demanded for such short and threadbare games.

I know they've done it before with stuff like Yoshi's story. Nothing comes to mind recently though I haven't bought a Nintendo game in like 2 years now.

Way to start being a faggot user.

No it wasn't.
Nintendo is responsible for a bunch of bullshit, but the powerglove was not one.

If I remember correctly, Captain Toad was fucking $50 when I literally saw it in Walmart, though that was a year ago and we all know how shit Wii U was. Even so, I did hear Shitendon't state they were refusing to lower any prices.

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I came here to check 'em.

Nintendo doesn't let prices because they don't need to. People keep buying stuff and since they undership everything the stores don't have to drop prices to get rid of excess stock. Captain toad was definitely launched at a discount price if you're a fellow Canadian that would explain why the price was 50 because of our shit dollar.

I'm honestly not even sure the last time Nintendo made a good game themselves. The vast majority of Nintendo games worth playing are developed by second party developers that Nintendo has in their pocket, but who could just as easily get funding elsewhere if Nintendo went under, e.g. Retro, Intelligent Systems, Platinum, Game Freak.

What's the last worthwhile game that was actually developed by Nintendo EAD/EPD? Super Mario Galaxy 2, Link Between Worlds?

Don't kid yourself. AM2R was good, but ZM, Super, and a handful of Super ROM hacks are all better than it.

I feel almost completely numb to retarded fanboys of things I like or used to unless they show up directly in front of me.

That's normal, right?

Opinion fucking discarded,redirect yourself to the nearest oven.

Nintendo's biggest problem is, has been, and forever will be it's own goddamn self.

never said that. but keep being a cuckold for nintendo.

You implied Castlevania II was and they cherrypicked. Still a retarded misuse of cuck.

wew.

All they did was incorrectly think you said Nintendo made Castlevania on NES. Stop being so overdefensive.

Nintendo is still the best console developer out there. They arent respknsible for pushing every shitty business practice in the industry like MS and they didnt casualize gaming like Sony did with the ps2.

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Part of the problem.

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Way to be wrong with every single thing you said

Right now, in this industry, nobody else is fucking their costumers more than Nintendo.

Not even EA, Activision and Ubisoft are pulling shit worse than Nintendo. They're not sending C&D to stop fan projects, or fucking up anyone who sends a video of their games on youtube.

Even Sony is showing more respect and giving more suppor for the Vita users than Nintendo and the WiiU userbase

are there any fan projects based on ea, activision or ubisoft IPs?

Everyone who says Nintendo causalized the market gives Nintendo way too much credit. The market was becoming casualized as early as the PS1

is the switch more your style?

Wii U was shit, but its menu was comfy as fuck and it had the best remote of all time.

Eat a dick.

The only reason Nintendo hasn't made a new F-Zero game is because they can't think of a way to force in gimmicky shit to make it suck.

nintendo has been attempting to bring in casuals since the NES days with every gimmick you can imagine. wii was the 1st time one of their stupid gimmicks finally took off.

you sound like you need to have some camomile tea. also playing with menus using a shitty remote doesnt count as playing vidya

Isn't it disturbing how the pendulum is slowly swinging back and Sega actually seems to be getting slightly better with its audience while its longest rival that ultimately put it out of the competition is getting shittier?

It's like all those memes about worst timeline we have to are actually true.

And before Nintendo it was Atari trying to market to educational markets.
It would be impressive to say Nintendo is the sole reason the market is casual, you're giving them too much credit

Why have GX fans never successfully made a community like Melee?

Game is amazing and there's no others of its kind.

Underfag detected. Get over it kiddo.

A underfag again. Sure they did take downs in the 2001-2009 years, they were mostly gone unnoticed.

I'm saying the gamepad didn't deserve it, faggot.

There's been no F-Zero equivalent for Brawl so there's never been a Project M equivalent made.

Holla Forums is a containment board for redditors.

Isn't leddit full of cucks or retarded "neutrals"?

I won't be buying the Switch. It is inexcusable what they do to the gamers, with translating shit poorly and hurting streamers with takedown request, but to put out a console less powerful than the current gen and expecting people to buy it is ridiculous.

Is there a list of all the fan projects Nintendo has killed? I wouldn't be surprised if it's more than all other publishers combined.

just because atari did bad things first, doesnt mean nintendo didnt invent any shitty practices. i dont recall atari selling magazine subscriptions with "hints" that were intentionally added into games to make them unplayable without getting the magazine.
i dont recall atari advertising an expensive help hotline to kids to kill their parents phone bill.
i dont recall atari actively trying to take down the renting market blaming it for low sales like fucking metallica and napster.
educational market is seperate from game market. that was so they could be competative with apple II

Atari crashed the market. nintendo and sega came up from the ashes, and nintendo immediately starts trying to drag it back down.
nintendo went on to invent new shitty practices that atari wasnt bold enough to attempt. but atari was marketed towards adults, while NES was marketed to children. afterall.. children are easier to fool.

Plenty of Command and Conquer mods out there, yes.

Wasn't there a missing edge on that pic?

Unforgivable sin.

the attempts are still funny

Exactly, of course those faggots would never go full stormfag on reddit, they're too scared of being shadowbanned by the furgoys and other degenerate mods that shithole has.

hwat

Why do people paint it like this? They didn't screw anyone. Sony tried to steal all of nintendo's IPs out from under them offering them a contract that would give Sony joint ownership of everything they've created before. Nintendo refused and found other business partners.

What the first video in the OP, it's pretty good.

Never forget what it ended up spawning.

AFAIK the deal was actually that Sony would be getting equal share of everything that was produced on what would've been their half of the SNES-CD or whatever came of it. This would've included Nintendo's own titles.

But rather than try to renegotiate, Nintendo cut the deal cold and ran to Phillips instead.

Ladies and gentlemen, this user is full autist pure.

pretty sure reddit is full of college liberals and hipsters.

Please tell me I'm not the only one who sees Katana from Highlander 2.

I thought stormfags were just the ones actively preparing for society collapsing and crusading the fuck out of the chaos (hence "storm") and not the retards claiming anime is killing western society?

I heard the ones saying stormfags are the retards are actually D&C'ing. I hear all kinds of drama about other shit on the internet all the time and even when I do my best to sort fact from fiction there's always that lingering paranoia of some kind of deliberate misinformation.

Trust but verify is a soul crushing bitch, but one this world painfully needs more than ever.

That's fucking hilarious.

In all seriousness, why didn't they just talk this shit out?

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This is why people make fun of you.

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Post the transhit comic edit with AIDS Skrillex as well.

Anyone who hasn't seen it yet is sure to get a laugh.

You implied they were responsible for CV2 ,not the company which developed it,Konami.

Leave and take those illiteracy-prone genes with you,faggot,

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Do you?

Now hold on just a second. Just in case you haven't noticed, what you just posted was created in response to the typical Holla Forums MS Paint strawman comics where usually the author and his argument is represented in a calm and elegant manner, while the opponent is shown as insane, ugly and with completely butchered arguments (refer to the "I AM SILLY" meme for an indepth explanation). What you are referring to as "MS PAINT COMIC" are in fact "Smudgies", or a subverted version of said Paint comics. Smudgies are meant to both ridiculize AND clarify/abbreviate the opponent's argument (almost exclusively designed by the abomination that is a leftist's mind) while making no statements' whatsoever on the author's arguments. Therefore and in conclusion, Smudgies are meant to mock and point out flaws, not win arguments, and you are fucking stupid.

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they actually just take an argument out of context then exaggerate it to make the opponent seem insane and ugly

they only exaggerate the drawings.

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So, if I follow this thread correctly…

Sounds about right for a console war thread.

nintendo is for QUEERS and LITTLE KIDS
they don't have any games with BOOBS
they don't have any games where a character says SHIT
they don't have any games where a character says FUCK
they don't have any games where a character says BITCH
they don't have any games where a character says NIGGER
they don't have any games where you commit a MURDER
they don't have any games where you commit a RAPE
mario is GAY

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Nigger, can you fucking read? I said that, nowadays, Nintendo is pulling wost shit than others are not, mainly due to the backlash tgey caused.
EA and Ubisoft is still a worst company overall, but nowadays they're not going after their fans as much as Nintendo is.

Also, Nintendo is pulling shadier things than Sony and Microsoft, with expensive 3ds themes, seasons passes… But not is worse than guill tripping yheir costumers to give money to their bullshit pree2play games. They're actually disgusting

Nintendo created the ESRB in a pathetic attempt to stop Sega from killing them with uncensored MK1.

Both Sony and Microsoft have paid themes and season passes though, how is what Nintendo is doing worse?

Found the nintenshill, here's a complimentary ubisoft rabbids for the next RPG with Mario.

That outfit seems strangely familiar to me.

But it's okay since it's not REALLY dlc, right?

Fuck Nintendo, then. I'm smashing my old Super Nintendo with a hammer next time I go to my parents' house. I want to play a game where I piss down a little kid's throat.

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And it was spearheaded by (((Howard Lincoln)))!

it's Beyond Good and Evil

It's too bad, since Japs usually are cool with corrupting kids, and are even cool with teaching little girls how to blow guys.

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Don't you dare punish that innocent retro console.

This has to be one of the most obnoxious fucking reasons to moralfag, period.

Says the faggot throwing the stalest b8 ever.

Please post more of Bloodborne machine-tan being a smug bitch.

Sorry, that's all I have. I just like the HD joke that's in it.

What does that have to do with themes and season passes?

It's an indirect thing, has more to do with DMA's previous project Body Harvest, which Nintendo had derailed the development of by trying to turn it into a weird mishmash RPG type thing, forcing DMA to seek out a different publisher and nearly going out of business in the process.

dont billy

cute

Bullying makes people gain thick skins and reassess their beliefs. Fuck you for turning people into limp wristed faggots.

PS4 is 299.
They aren't going to sell the switch for that much… will they? Even 200 seems like a ripoff.

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…along with Sega, EA, and Acclaim. The creation of the ESRB was, in fact, Nintendo's concession to Sega - rather than restricting games on their platform to be censored and released for all audiences, they adopted an age-based rating system similar to what Sega was already using for their games.

s-stop

Nier and Persona look fun.

Right. It's content that they made after the game shipped since Mario kart was made before amiibos were really a thing.

they were added in a game update and they're unlockable skins that don't change a damned thing. Can't even use them online because Miis are banned now because Hitler.

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No, it's not ok, it's not ok at all . As much as these paid shills are trying to convince people, this is still no true.
Nintendo will never get their shit together again. That'sd why they're actually paying people to defend them, so they can still do their ridiculous shit again and again.

Do I have to remind you of Bioware's rise to power?

How about addressing my actual point?

How about you have an actual point first.

So, here's the thing. There's a limit for that. You don't see many Biodrones these outside of their hugbox. People have a limit, and Bioware pused beyond that. Hell, TORtanic itself is an example of how one loved company can fall.

Nintendo is getting there. I actually had a lot of friends that were blind Nintendo fanboys. That changed. Nintendo systematically shitted on their most beloved franchices, be with the shitshow that the new Fire Emblem is, how Nintendo mishandled the WiiU, fucking the fan projects, Metroid Federation Force, everything related to amiibo "exclusive" content, the list goes on.

Hell, Pokemon Go itself is a prime example on how much Nintendo and their second-parties are fucking up. Everybody in the world was playing the game, three months later the game is dead as shit.

Is this Gamergating?

*Biodrones these days outside

I'm drunk as fuck

It was okay years ago when it was first introduced in the 90s and it's okay now.

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what
are you implying that
no

what the fuck are you talking about?

The following is the conclusion I have made about this issue: Literally anyone who complains about Nintendo of all game companies are exclusively sentimental-minded commies.

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If Argonaut got screwed by Nintendo why are former employees like Cuthbert willing to work with them again?

On one hand, it's an nice acknowledgement of BG&E with a nice Jade costume, but on the other hand it's being worn by a Rabbid which aren't exactly liked . . . (what game is this from?)

If you don't want them, don't buy an amiibo then? They are basically just a "multi game (and platform) cosmetic unlock(s)" in physical form. (with some exceptions, eg training AI of Smash/MTUS or character unlocks of Codename Steam/FE:F

What is this bullshit?

thick skin makes you insensitive though, and it's harder to achieve orgasm if you aren't sensitive.

Sounds about right.

God, I have to put up with an insufferable candidate for Mister White Guilt of the Decade at work who is just like the third one. He went off on a fucking rant about "white people genociding native Americans" when I said that it was stupid to call a group that claims to be improving life for everyone "THE YOUNG TURKS", as it would be like claiming you believe all races are the same, and calling yourself The Fourth Reich. He get even more angry when I told him that my great grandmother caught a lot of shit for being "a fucking redskin", but no one went out on the march to kill her family.

Anywho, the Nintendo bullshit that pissed me off when it was happening was

Absolutely brilliant.

More like because they were still bum blasted that CD-rom tech shat all over cartridges during the psx/n64 era.

Who did make the design for the gamecube? I know Dr. Wei Yen did the hardware, but I'm not sure if he did the modelling.

I remember their "b-b-b-b-but loading times!" excuses, there was this Nintendo sponsored TV show in my country that said RE2 on the N64 was superior because there were "no annoying loading times."

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Reasons People Hate Nintendo:

Reasons People Hate Sony:

Reasons People Hate Microsoft:

Reasons People Hate Valve:

Feel free to add to any of these lists.

It's pretty funny how nobody mentions how Nintendo threw Sega under the bus during the trial were they were forced to create the ESRB or be regulated by the government

But user, it was a (((mutual))) decision.

Oh shit, nevermind

I have never mentioned amiibo in any way.

What reasons? I would like to know.

It's interesting that you added valve into the console warfare roster. I guess I haven't thought about it before, but they have "console-fied" the pc game industry.

Reasons people hate gog:

One of the biggest excuse and out right lie was that the graphics technology could only be done with a cartridge and cannot be done with a CD-ROM.

Sega is American, it was founded in Hawaii

Fucking hell you nailed why I hated Nitendo since 2001.

I only hate Sony for 1 reason though

M$

my favourite part about all that shit is how all games nowadays have loading, including cartridge games. Actually, they have more loading than games already installed in the videogame

It certainly sounds like a lie, the only advantage on cartridges was custom developer's chips that would add certain stuff not present in the console and that's it, but even then, time and time again those games didn't go too far, from the top of my head there was the Nintendo SFX chip and the Capcom C4 chip.

A cartridge can add RAM and hardware, where a CD can't. And flash memory is significantly faster than CD read speeds.
Back in the 90s CDs and then DVDs could hold more memory than carts, but that's not the case anymore.

Why is there loading from vita cartridges?

I'm implying that video game interracting toys are nothing new. There was ROB, there was that one fighting game that had you buy trading cards, even Steam tied ACTUAL DLC to firgurines before nintendo did.

It doesn't help that people like you two never have good examples and can only come up with skins that wouldn't be in the game otherwise while shit like Hyrule Warriors which was blatantly taken out of the game in favor of making it amiibo content never gets mentioned.

I have a theory that people like you don't know what amiibos actually are or how they work.

Even 3DS games have loading

Well, he did confront the criticism by saying that it reduces your sensitivity.

At least they are adopting a walk quietly and carry a big stick stance with their PR, Nintendo seems to be channeling Sony's ps3 launch idiocy and clinging to that mindset. What a dark time.

Also guys, do you remember that youtube guy named Headox? He was a super Nintendo baby but after making a video defending the AM2R game Nintendo decided to stop supporting his channel, after that he went full redpill against nintendo

i swear its the exact same fucking shit bethseda pulled you fucking NIGGER, eat some ass

It's the fault of the system memory, not the read speed. If a console only has 1 GB ram and it's loading a 2 GB file, it's going to take a while.

More reasons to hate Nintendo:

Fucking this, when was there an original thing from nintendo since Drill Dozer on the GBA?

STOP PISSING ON NINTENDO YOU FUCKING FUCKS! FUCK YOU ALL! NINTENDO HAS BROUGHT DREAMS TO LIFE FOR MILLIONS OF CHILDREN!!

I've read things like Valve not wanting to continue Half-Life's story because they fear a backlash similar to what happened with Mass Effect 3, they can't get motion capture to work, their playtesters have Down's Syndrome, and other stupid, trivial crap.

This is also true, although their attempt to console-fie PC hardware has failed hard financially.

GoG Galxy in-general is just bad, it defeats the purpose of a DRM-free marketplace.

Very true too.

OP included that in his post.

oh wow please be real

Does Custom Robo count? I have a boner for it.

Everyone knows Nintendo worked directly with the Clinton administration to kidnap children from Hatti using Pokemon Go and using their bodies for spirit cooking after everyone from the DNC and GoP are invited to the party via swapnote. Fuck you, why do you support pedophilia?

Boxboy and Pushmo?

Well, for HL people just want closure, hell, at this point a comic book or an SFM movie would do the job.

How.

The only thing it does is provide people with automatic updates and an easy way to orginize their games without a browser, it also lets devs implement better matchmaking and online functions that GoG previously missed out on.

I really like the convenience of having an application where you can easily download shit. A lot of GNU/Linux distros have some kind of app store, and that makes them so much easier to use.

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Your desperation is showing.
Microsoft and Sony did 10 more times shitty practices and fails than Nintendo. You will not mention it of course.

Those were from Hal Labs.

I guess it's not that bad, but I feel like it opens the door for DRM or DRM-like things. And it's bad for filthy pirates like myself

Not as desperate as Nintendo shoving the Wii U out the door hoping the Switch will stick. :^)

it was nothing more but an anti-piracy measure

How is this a reason to hate them? It's not their fault all other handhelds in the market (save for the PSP) were fucking shit. We're supposed to hate them because they released a solid line of handheld consoles and got a bunch of good games?

Yes, you are!

Its because anons like who want nintendo to rehash and rape IPs rather than actually supporting their small time.

Used to they just made big names like Mario and Zelda to fund their smaller projects but then their smaller projects started going from Pikmin's Alright sales to utter trash sales because people stopped caring after the huge "NINTENDO DOESN'T DO ANYTHING ORIGINAL!"

I mean, I fucking hate nintendo right now for Xenoblade, their bullshit with the WiiU, and FE, and mobile, but then there is the generic retard whose only priority is making sure franchises get rehashed to death.

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Yet it's creation ended up in concession, forcing them to adopt an age-rating system rather than censorship of all games on their platform to appeal to all-ages.

This is an industry-wide issue, not Nintendo exclusive.

Then list them, like he suggested. Otherwise quit your bitching.

And Halo was made by bungie. Your point?

I know for a fact they have, I just couldn't think of them off the top of my head, hence why I invited the thread to add to it.

That chapter in nintendo history is mind-blowing. You would think nintendo and miyamoto would have made their partnership with rare a comfy time. But nope, nintendo pretty much drove rare away and let them get bought by microsoft. Miyamoto is a fucking monster. No wonder Koji Kondo hates his guts.

The rehash argument is stupid considering stuff like Paper Mario and Chibi-Robo would've been fine if they stick to their roots. Change for the sake of change is bad.

Yeah. Most Nintendrones wished that Rare stayed with Nintendo but in reality, Nintendo screwed them by refusing to advertise Conker's Bad Fur Day and turning their magnum opus into a Star Fox spin off.

It's a better compromise than all-out government regulation, but you can't deny Nintendo's selfish motives.

It's because their then president was an absolute retard. One of the reasons Iwata was so beloved was because he stopped making retarded fueds with westerners who out did them.

Paper mario was fucked over by nintendo's club nintendo polls. They took them entirely too literally and assumed people loved them because they were adventure games instead of being a delightful mess of RPG and quirky writing.

Chibirobo got fucked the same reason Pikmin is getting fucked now, because people keep asking for more when they're out of ideas so they just force anything out to AVOID rehashing because people constantly accuse them of doing exactly that.

This is a myth. The big "fuck you" nintendo gave to them after DKC and star fox, was not buying them out. Nintendo advertised Conkers well enough, even giving it a playboy spread IIRC.

Their last president also favored miyamoto. Miyamoto was his attack dog in a lot of ways.

Indeed they did.
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Technically it was Sony that put Sega out of the hardware competition. Nintendo's sales were in the tank during that period.

It was under Iwata that they became less restrictive and started lending their IPs to smaller studios like Next Level games.
Yamauchi was a hardcore jap, fucking ruthless guy. He was also obsessed with 3D, which is why the Virtual Boy was allowed to release in the state it was - because Yamauchi had a hard-on for things popping out of the screen.

Yes but remember that Nintendo indirectly created the Playstation brand which ended up killing Sega's hardware business and led Microsoft into the console industry.

Yeah, a lot of the problems people are mentioning in this thread that "NINTENDO WAS ALWAYS AWFUL!" is Yamauichi's bullshit.

Under Iwata it was great, but then the WiiU started failing and then the board of directors started taking over, that's why we got all this bullshit today.

The Wii was not so great either, it was definitely not as bad as it is today but Nintendo was really doubling-down on gimmicks and dumbing-down games for their broader demographic, and even opened the floodgates to tons of awful shovelware that sullied the console's reputation.

You forgot to add to the Nintendo list that they screw over a lot of studios like Argonauts, Rare and Rockstar

The Wii was great though. "gimmicks" was always a bullshit complaint, especially after Motion+ came out. The Wii's only problem was people like you who kept spouting shit like it's a kiddie gimmick console instead of showing third parties that there was a market for them on it.

I would add to microsoft

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Nintendo didn't really screw Rockstar - Nintendo was funding their game and they were 2 years late in their schedule. The suggestion to turn Body Harvest into an RPG was pants on head retarded, but Rockstar was still late as fuck.

Nintendo is the last company in the industry that can talk shit about games being late

Kinda goes along with >fucks-over developers, often deliberately in order to justify a gimmick (Star Fox Zero, DS Zelda games), appeal to a younger demographic (Project HAMMER and Metroid Federation Force), or further-benefit internal developers (Croc/Super Mario 64, Star Fox Adventures and other Rare games, Body Harvest, etc.)

Games are late all the time. Small time games and unproven games that are late tend to get cancelled a lot. Modern nintendo can't talk shit about games being late because they decided consumer transparency was a good thing and revealed games in early development way too early.

You can't say that to the person paying your bills. Nintendo's own games are late all the time, but it's their money that's being burned. Who cares? In the case of Body Harvest it was an external developer working on it - so the fact that the project continued despite being a year and a half behind schedule is surprising.

Somewhat true, but third-parties didn't help themselves with all the shovelware they were shitting out alongside the gems.

True, though I think the hate for Halo is more of a subjective thing and Microsoft wasn't directly responsible for it.

Hard to be on time when people keep moving the goalposts and changing the win conditions. Sound familiar? Boy howdy, I can't wait for the next FALLOUT game, and original BETHESDA joint!

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>Yes, that has definitely happened. In the past we’ve worked with some outside development houses on titles like F-Zero and Starfox — and let me just say that we were disappointed with the results. Consumers got very excited about the idea of those games, but the games themselves did not deliver.
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Two weapon limit and regenerative health are shit game mechanics and mircosoft could of told them to knock that shit off or pull the plug on halo, since they were the ones that funded that piece of shit. I hold them entirely responsible for the shitty games and anti-consumer practices for the previous console generation.

I can only imagine how frustrating it must be to work for that twat

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That's because a lot of devs are talentless hacks who can't make anything but shovelware when faced with something that could potentially innovate the entire industry. The Wii still gave way to things like the occulus and VR so it's at least still there, but the reason shovelware was a problem was because Devs didn't want to optimize or create games for something that was otherwise two gamecubes slapped together. The Wii was more than capable of running most third party multiplats if only they actually put effort into optimizing them for better hardware, but optimization is a dead art. These days when devs run into a problem they just slap a higher recommended system requirements on it and are done with it.

Isn't that statement actually referring to the the two GBA F-Zero anime tie-in games (GP Legend and JP only Climax) and NOT the GCN's F-Zero GX?

10/10 post user. I know exactly what you're trying to say and it's 100% clear as day that you're not a raving retard that saw two words and just randomly typed in H and A like you were laughing at something like an actual autist.

Ok let me add this up

And remember Sony is not all about games. Many musician lawsuited sony for not paying them, the rootkit CD scandal, region locking movies and exploiting laptops.

True, but you ultimately can't blame any entity but Nintendo for not rejecting all of that trash and keeping their console's reputation safe among both casuals and vidya enthusiasts.

That garbage stole sales from decent games and made motion controls feel like a hollow novelty, and when most consumers caught on to this they threw their Wii in the closet and pretended it doesn't exist, and thus software sales plummeted for the Wii.

Nintendo could have prevented that if they'd actually enforced their own "seal of quality."

I wouldn't say it is considering GP Legends came out in the same year as GX

Not only that but in general they've done some shady ass shit. They're also responsible for fucking over Xenoblade X's US soundtrack release because the artist is under contract with them. They technically own the soundtrack to the game and nintendo couldn't legally release in outside of japan except on a small 4gb USB with DRM on it.

Great observation, user. Couldn't have said those better myself.

I'm trying to say you're a disonest faggot if you're trying to imply that Nintendo is transparent. They won't reveal the exact fate Super Mario bros was released on usa, among others

Simply manufacturing a console in this day and age is enough to be hated, and deservedly so.

Except you can blame everyone and nintendo.

The Wii was an incredibly open system in comparison to their other ones. This is literally what EVERYONE wanted after the PS1, it's why the N64 and GC failed because they were incredibly strict with who could release games under their system. With the Wii you just needed a devkit and a license.

Console developers vetting games on their console is a dying practice that Sony initially started killing.

How are the directs not being "transparent"? All I'm getting from you is that you are capable of typing out garble.

Like this. This makes no sense.

Not so relevant but interesting.

I hate to say this, but considering the abundance and low quality of the games made with that open system, it probably would've been better off with the stricter quality control of old. It's like Steam but without the user reviews, curation, or refund system.

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Recalled Pacini, "It was kind of disheartening, because we didn’t have anything to show, other than some concept art and our 3 -page design documents (Nintendo requires that you be able to explain your idea in 3 pages). And people were going in – the RPG team, the football team – and they were saying, 'he hates everything!'"

He added, "And when I went in as part of the car team, we were working on a kind of Twisted Metal game (it wasn’t my idea). And the first thing [Miyamoto] said was, ‘why would you put guns on cars? Don’t cars crash into each other? Isn’t that what they do?’"

"And I said, ‘I agree. I have no idea why we’re making this game,'" Concluded Pacini.

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I can't into archves

Didn't Argonaut became PlayStation-exclusive after leaving Nintendo?

Nor meme arrows

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just stating the plain reality you meme loving vola seme

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Body Harvest was more than a year late already before Nintendo said anything about it.

They had one game on a nintendo system after Star Fox 2 Buck Bumble, they were also planning to put Croc 2 on the N64 but it was cancelled. Cuthbert on the other hand founded Q-games which did make Star Fox Command on the DS and some assorted DSi-ware games. Cuthbert though is trying to bring the cancer that is the western indie-scene to Japan so he is probably a weasly spineless asshole.

No Nintendo didn't want to pay for licensing the DVD format. They came up with their own inferior optical disc.

Sony was one of the companies who developed the DVD format but MS put a DVD drive in their console.

They're still doing that shit too Nintendo came up with their own blu-ray like optical disc for the Wii U. The only console they put out without proprietary media was the Wii.

The Wii also used a proprietary disc format though it was DVD based and the Wii's hardware can read standard DVDs.

Ah yes the Wii.

To be fair Sony did some cringy shit with Singstar.

Oh really I never knew that. Is that why you needed a specific DVD-drive with hacked firmware to read Wii discs?

That was the company I was thinking of. They did a lot of PlayStation-exclusive downloadable games in addition to DSiwares (including that Tomorrow Children thing).

Yeah all their best stuff is for the Playstation.

I just want a Paper Mario that's not shit at this point.

I don't understand his obsessions with fucking toads and not wanting to build a cast.

They should probably put that IP on the burner for a few years so that most people forget about the last few that weren't very good.

I still don't understand the reasoning behind Color Splash

Sticker Star was shit and I've never seen a Mario game drop so fast in price, so they do it AGAIN for Color Splash.

I'm told Color Splash is a bit better but it still follows the same linear format and no interesting partner characters.

You're technically right, but at the same time, it's one thing to screw competitors or collaborators over, it's another entirely to do so to the consumers. I think the biggest problem so far is that people pledge their allegiance to a company or a series, rather than just going with whatever's good.

But the people are craving a proper game. If Nintendo announced a new game and made it clear it was an RPG again people will buy it.

It's because Nintendo decided to make Mario & Luigi the RPG franchise and to make Paper Mario something else. Which makes no fucking sense since Mario & Luigi's team up mechanics make it way more mechanically interesting without the RPG mechanics plus they're always loaded with all sorts of minigames and stuff. However if you take out the RPG mechanics of Paper Mario you are left with a game with no mechanics. Even worse they left in the turn-based battles and just took out all the leveling and growth and make every battle take up resources. So the game is actively punishing you for engaging in gameplay. It's such a fucking mess.

That's marketing for you.
Don't be that loser who owns an inferior product, buy our shit instead so that you can be COOL!!!

That Larry Bundy vid is full of shit, it's mostly hearsay and conjecture with

So the first one is the Shiggy's quote from Donkey Kong Country, cool that comes from an extremely obscure magazine and pictures of the quote from the magazine have never surfaced, but it's been quoted many times while never actually being sourced, on top of this the quote didn't start appearing until well after the issue of the magazine was released and the magazine itself was discontinued. Even then the quote isn't entirely false, I've seen shit games with nice graphics sell well before, The Order sold like 2 million copies, and that game had nothing to glide on but it's nice visuals.

The Starfox debacle has 0 proof either, Larry presents that Starfox 2 was shut down so they could make Starfox 64 and recycle it's code as an absolute fact but provides 0 proof that this was the case. Ultimately Jez San is the major source for any negative comments about Star Fox 2, Nintendo paid the Argonaut employees to develop it, but because it was never released Argonaut never received royalties from the SuperFX chip, geez I wonder if someone is just talking shit because of mad salt.

The Starfox Adventures one is largely a non-issue, Shiggy had Rare change Dinosaur planet to Starfox, it was going to be a bad game either way. Larry also pushes the idea that Rare hated Nintendo for changing the game and it pushed Rare into selling to Microsoft, this isn't the case at all and the only other sources I've found is that the Stamper Brothers wanted to move into real estate or the the Stamper Brothers wanted to raise capital for Rare due to rising game development costs but the second doesn't make any sense since if they sold Rare they would have the money and Rare wouldn't.

The Croc one doesn't make any sense either, the timeline given by Jez San puts the Yoshi prototype reveal at the end of their contract with Nintendo which based on the development and proposed launch of Starfox 2 would have been 1995, but Super Mario 64 started development in 1994, Larry claims that Nintendo scrapped the yoshi prototype mid development and then went on to make Super Mario 64 but even Jez San claims that the prototype was shown but Nintendo never went forth with it, Jez San also claims that the title would have been the first game staring a Nintendo character developed by a foreign studio, when Donkey Kong Country exists, when the horrible CDI zelda games exist, when Mario Teaches Typing exists and Mario is Missing exists, Some of these games come before Argonauts first release on a Nintendo system being X in 1992. Jez San claims that the Yoshi prototpye was the first ever 3d platformer when Alpha Waves was the first ever 3d platformer released in 1990. On top of this the proof is in the pudding, Super Mario 64 is far superior than Croc in every way apart form Crocs cute as all fuck walk cycle and was released a year Croc. If anything Jez San is trying his absolute hardest to cling to any relevance after his companies relationship with Nintendo had deteriorated, he's probably salty that Nintendo stole some of his top employees too to help them develop their 3d titles.

The DMA thing is the best thing in the video, he doesn't sugar coat that at all.

I'm not saying don't rag on Nintendo or any other company for that matter, but ffs rag on them for something you can actually verify instead of shitty hearsay and conjecture.

Also pictured is the mag with Shiggy's infamous Donkey Kong quote, maybe someone has that magazine and can give us a photo of the quote.

Every popular console has shovelware, it's as if some people are unable to recall just how bad the PS2 shovelware actually got, it's just as bad if not worse than the trash we saw on the Wii, but it was offset by other companies actually giving a fuck and making good games for it.

I'm surprised no one a so paternal be the Guru Larry video yet.

It's in the OP the post directly above yours is a giant post refuting most of the video. Please kill yourself promptly.

Shoveling doubt is not refuting a claim.

Well I dun goofed. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I wasn't really commenting on the quality of the arguments just that the post was discussing the video.

Neat. I thought it was a fun for a dos game.

Color Splash is good, it's just that they could go a little further and fix it completly
>Dialogue is great, but has taken a giant dose of smug. Spoiler: "You mean none of this would have happened if we had a 'DO NOT MIX THE PAINT' sign? :^)" Also the whole black paint thing was anticlimactic, for how much effort into making it creepy

I like the fact that they want to make something new instead of another TTYD, and Color Splash is nearly good enough to be listed with PM64/TTYD, but they would be better off giving Paper Mario a rest for a gen or two.

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From what I remember, the Croc game was at some point going to be a 3D game starring Yoshi, Argonauts presented it to Nintendo, Nintendo was unimpressed because of the tank controls, so they pitched to Sony who was starting to get into the console scene and hastily changed the character to look like a crocodile, Sony gave them a chance and they got the franchise started. No idea about the Mario 64 thing, all I know is that Miyamoto was so fucking impressed with Crash Bandicoot from a technical point of view that he lost faith in Mario 64 bringing them the cash.

Everyone knows black is not a color
What a tragedy, Fitz would be ashamed

The game's mechanics actually punish you for getting into battles yet retains battling as the primary game mechanic. Plus you have all that stupid paint gathering busy-work and painting cards before you use them for an attack just filled with pointless busy-work. Not to mention the fact that every fucking friendly-NPC in the game is a fucking Toad just screams lazy. Putting Color Splash anywhere near PM64/TTYD means you're either an idiot or suffering from some kind of stockholm syndrome from the last 2 shit-heaps of games. You can't even praise them for trying something new because the new stuff was World, and Sticker Star which everyone hated. Color Splash is just a re-tread of Sticker star with some slight changes which makes it inexcusable. Trying something new for a sequel but it not catching on sucks but I don't hold it against the developer. However these guys tried something new were told it was terrible and they just made it again with shinier graphics.

I already know about that but Jez San claims that Croc was the game that inspired Super Mario 64 but can't prove it, on top of that the timeline provided makes it impossible for proto Croc to have inspired Super Mario 64 and Shiggy claims that during the development of Star Fox 64 he came up with the idea of Super Mario 64, which would have been 92/93.

I doubt Shiggy worried that much about Crash, I recall reading that he was impressed by the Crash demo and was interested in buying out the company afterwards though.

Hoo boy, can't imagine what that would be like now

The video doesn't even really say that all it says is Argonauts proposed a 3D platformer. Nintendo saw what they had didn't like it so they rejected the game. However Nintendo liked the idea of a 3D platformer so they started making their own.

Sad that a company loved so much had fallen so hard to a point it just pisses me off, just hearing what other bullshit they do to screw up fans or just letting their other IP's rot and die and only make Mario,Zelda and Pokemon games, never again i will support them or buy any of their games if this is the path they chose.

Okay sure, but my point was that the timeline that Jez claims would have had Super Mario 64 already in development at the time that he proposed the Yoshi platformer, so it's more than likely that Nintendo saw the protoype but were already developing Mario 64 and didn't move forwards with it, and the most likely cause for not renewing their deal with Argonaut is their deal with SGI to build a dedicated graphics processor for their upcoming console, the biggest part of Nintendo's deal with Argonaut was the SuperFX chip which Argonaut recieved royalties on.

In CS if you don't grind you have to make up for it in money. Either you actually fight things so you can paint the bigger cards, or you pay five times as much for prepainted cards in the shop. For example, the giant Fire Flower which you'll be using by the end of the game takes 150 paint units, and you'll have a hard time painting that with the 100 you start off with. The game showers you in money but when you're spending a fuckton to keep a proper deck of prepainted cards and relying on Battle Spin it all adds up.
If you want to complain about something complain about the rock/paper/scissors tournaments, or the fact that you can get stuck in an unwinnable fight if the game locks you out of hammer attacks and you fight something spiky.
The game is flawed, but good. It has issues, such as the final boss being boring, or the lack of variety with the Toads, but the good parts of the game make up for it. And the game is mostly made of good parts. I didn't make the comparison with TTYD lightly, because it's good parts are that numerous. Wii U piracy is a thing, so go pirate it and see for yourself.

You'd still have Crash

Alright I never made it far enough to know you actually needed to level up to paint bigger cards. I still fucking hate painting cards it's tedious and unnecessary and I hate having to constantly manage inventory in order to fight and having to constantly refresh supplies because every action takes up disposable resources. Not to mention the entire thing mechanic, yeah they're big super attacks which is cool but you'll never use one of them because they might be required for a boss battle and they're all single use.

If it helps you can change the control scheme in the options. There's one option that lets you select and paint in one motion, and another that lets you use the buttons.
Also the thing cards being required for boss fights is something I'm not a fan of either. They tried to make it less tedious, with the ability to run from boss fights if you don't have the right Thing, and the toad in the plaza that tells you about them, but it's still annoying. Especially getting the camera, which requires you to do something that seems optional at first.

That would definitely help but I still just don't like that basic attacks use up consumables it just makes me really fucking agitated, like if a games has a timer throughout the entire thing. When I finished sticker star I didn't feel gratification I felt relief which is not something you want to feel when completing a game. Even Super Paper Mario seemed like a good game that just had rough spots, a little too many. Sticker Star and Color Splash to me feel like bad games that have some good spots. I will grant you that Color Splash has better writing but that really isn't saying much when comparing it to the snore-fest of Sticker Star.

Define "stormfag", if you're using it to refer to Holla Forumsacks and not actual Stormfront users then you deserve to be gassed.

This.

I have a PS because there are games I like on it. I don't give a shit about Sony or most of their games really.
Brand loyalty is stupid, I had a 360 last gen but I didn't get a Xbox one because of that.

I don't think there is anything wrong with liking a company because you like what they used to do. As long as you an admit when they fuck up and do something bad. Like Nintendo is a perfect example, there is nothing wrong with someone buying the Switch on launch day just because they know they're going to want to play the new Nintendo games that come out. However if you cannot admit Nintendo does some fucked up shit and is extremely anti-consumer you have gone too far.

I love how you people always excuse the Wii's shovelware problem by downplaying it as if you never owned one.

Sure the PS2 had plenty of it too, but it was mostly in PAL territories and had more than enough solid games to make up for it.

The Wii had a level of shovelware unprecedented since the Atari 2600 era. It was bad. Really, REALLY fucking bad. I remember how disenchanted, me and my friends were, and even normalfags I knew with a Wii about the software quality of the Wii. Good titles were never easy to come by because shelf space was being hogged by so much fucking dross.

It was a huge problem that Nintendo failed to address and can even be partially attributed to the Wii U's failure simply by association.

Not to excuse the Wii but I think you're underestimating the extent of the shovelware on the PS1 and PS1, I assume the Genesis had a ton of it before that as well, there's a dumping ground for garbage every generation and it's just whatever sells well and is cheap to develop for, right now it's Steam.

The Wii's problem is that it did not have enough quality games from 3rd parties. PS1/2 both had tons of crap but they also had the majority of the quality games at the time. The Wii did not even for the first year or so when 3rd parties were honestly trying they just could not think of a good way to utilize the controllers. Then eventually even those dried up and all that was coming out for the Wii was shovel ware and the odd Nintendo game.

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Nice oekaki.

Then Jez San is an absolute faggot
Also I think it's pretty ballsy for someone to claim that the original idea for a 3D Mario came from another studio, it's not like every company on the market was already testing 3D versions of their main franchise on their own.

And the Crash thing is from an extract from Naughty Dogs' memoirs, I wouldn't 100% trust it but it's a known fact that Shiggy thought Crash Bandicoot was a much more technologically advanced title.

I used to love the PS1, switched to the Gamecube because I genuinely preferred those titles, everyone was shocked about it, then did another 180 with the PS3 and the one faggot I know who owns a wii u got one of the worst buyer's remorse I've ever witnessed.

I know they're Stormfront users. I assume they're likened to the supposedly more crazily thinking ones then considered a boogeyman that are blamed for shitting up 4chan's Holla Forums for anyone who doesn't agree about certain things. Then the term "stormfag" most likely became a blanket buzzword.

Just sit back with all the games you already enjoyed as a child and watch the forsaken pieces of anti-consumer shit burn, user.

The people that once made it great are gone.

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Nintendo is known for this too like removing 480p in later versions the GameCube, and online on the Wii Mini.

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Ever since the NES.

The toploader had one advantage at least. It ignores the region lockout chip, so you can play off-region and unlicensed games without workarounds.
The Wii Mini was really fucking stupid though, especially when you can buy an original series Wii with Gamecube support for a quarter of the price. You can't even hack it.

Yeah, that's the 'convenient' part of it. But you can do this to a regular NES too - simply open it up and cut pin #4 from the lockout chip.

Wii Mini is retarded beyond belief. No SD card means no hacks, but it also means to backups of ANYTHING at all for the regular nonhacking user. It baffles me how they could do something as bad as this.

*no backups